It's kind of mind blowing to watch someone try to argue the English translation is correct against a literal biblical scholar quoting the Greek. >.>
@stormy8110 Жыл бұрын
It truly is astonishing.
@greyskeptic3961 Жыл бұрын
Yup
@GoodieWhiteHat Жыл бұрын
Dunning Kruger effect in play there.
@KaiHenningsen Жыл бұрын
Not astonishing at all. Ever since Reagan, the American right wing has evolved a strong distrust of academia and education and critical thinking. It is entirely in line with their general world view: Dan is wrong *because* he is an expert.
@dorothysay8327 Жыл бұрын
Why is it astonishing? That this HS educated fellow who is actually reading his Bible with it’s bad translation, might not know what he DOESN’T KNOW? Well there’s a great reason to bash him. And so easy to do online. Instant satisfaction.
@criticalthinker2477 Жыл бұрын
That guy's a perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect, i.e. those who are incompetent in a given area tend to be ignorant of their incompetence.
@artmoss6889 Жыл бұрын
He's also a good example of trusting in doctrinal interpretations developed millenia after a text was written as opposed to seeking the text's original intent.
@criticalthinker2477 Жыл бұрын
@@artmoss6889 yes, so true. If they would be willing to do that and be honest about the text's original intent, they would understand that much of it just isn't applicable to our modern society and culture.
@dorothysay8327 Жыл бұрын
@@criticalthinker2477 applicability? Is in the eye of the beholder. The whole POINT of sacred texts is their universal applicability. The question is HOW to apply, what your exegetical hermeneutic is, and what to apply it to. The whole ‘this is irrelevant to our oh-so-progressive modern world’, is irreligious and itself irrelevant, ironically. Believers never approach a word of Scripture in this manner.
@criticalthinker2477 Жыл бұрын
@@dorothysay8327 universal applicability? How does that work when we can't come to a consensus on how to apply the texts? Maybe some of us think it was only "sacred" to the Israelites who wrote those laws for their iron age life style in an ancient near east culture. You are fine to live your life that way but the problems come when you decide to "universally" apply them to the rest of us.
@alexanderfloyd5099 Жыл бұрын
Dan’s ability to calmly respond is enviable.
@dorothysay8327 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t find it calm, so much as smug.
@KGraceSpeaksKea1335 Жыл бұрын
@@dorothysay8327😅 he's fun
@hjtapia74 Жыл бұрын
He is coming down from Ph.D education to explain someone who most likely only has a high school diploma and whom calls him out in a video on which Dan was not addressing anyone but giving his educated opinion. I honestly think he was very kind considering those facts.
@scambammer6102 Жыл бұрын
this one only needed six takes /s
@piesho8 ай бұрын
@@dorothysay8327Yeah, "smug" That's what I call people when I can't prove they are wrong.
@jon4574 Жыл бұрын
'I ain't got a PhD Dan but I got the Holy Spirit.' Literally bragging about delusion as if it's a strength.
@mecca777 Жыл бұрын
Indeed!!!!
@defenestratefalsehoods Жыл бұрын
I find it strange that their all-knowing God would set it up for the daughters to rape their father in a cave after destroying their city for perversions and immoral acts. Such a good story.
@dorothysay8327 Жыл бұрын
It’s not just an illusion. It’s his belief. You’re not required to believe him.
@AurorXZ Жыл бұрын
In mainstream Christian teaching, the Holy Spirit gives discernment and is often necessary for proper comprehension.
@Stewpkiddable Жыл бұрын
the bible is one giant delusion.... just FYI it is fiction and used a pretense to rape children.
@LPRH246 Жыл бұрын
Love the pretty colours he uses to highlight passages in the bible, perhaps all the colours of the 🌈
@alineharam Жыл бұрын
You made me laugh.
@naysneedle5707 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@xaayer Жыл бұрын
This guy really playing into Gutsick Gibbon's representation of apologetics: Apologist: "have you considered A?" You: "A doesn't work because B" Apologist: "But have you considered C?" You: "C also doesn't work because of B as well as D." Apologist: "Aah! But have you considered A?"
@harlankilmon998 Жыл бұрын
This one hit so close to home it hurt. I sometimes really freak people out when they come at me when I mention that book is printed in a “book factory” like any other book. And the printers are not theologians, or anything like that. I have never had them tell me how they think bibles are actually manifested in the world. They have not even considered that, let alone any other “subtleties” about their book. It’s hard to counter the simple but strong absolute belief that these are god’s words, directly manifested and perfect.
@dorothysay8327 Жыл бұрын
Actually most renditions of the Bible (subtract modern paraphrase translations) are very carefully through through and poured over by scholars of their time. Capriciousness does not go into a biblical translation. It is true that like with all other disciplines, the science of language and its translation from one to another, progresses as does all human knowledge, over time; and we come to a greater understanding by comparing those very early texts, with others that were not always available to past scholars. But you’re right, many low-church Christians in America are appallingly trained (and not just in religious tradition and history) and tend to lap up whatever their charismatic preacher tells them; and he himself is often poorly trained. So there ya go.
@calicoskyband Жыл бұрын
Love the clarity and succinctness, Dan. We've been showing your content to our friends and some former bandmates who are really interested in Biblical scholarship and theology. Thank you for this!
@Stewpkiddable Жыл бұрын
the bible is a work of fiction.
@scienceexplains302 Жыл бұрын
*Lot offered his daughters.* In the story, Lot lived in the town, so he knew a little about his neighbors If he thought his neighbors wanted to have sex with only men, he wouldn’t have offered his daughters. So as Dan says, the attempted rapes are not a function of homosexuality.
@wowtim62 Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say that I have tried to make sense of the bible and I am very thankful for your calm and thought out responses. Now I am able to make sense of the strange lessons if only for myself. Thank you
@robertrichards9565 Жыл бұрын
Huge power move to respond to the theocrat’s video on a porch swing.
@roisinbrown5532 Жыл бұрын
This should open with "hey wanna see a dead body"
@GodOfBrevity Жыл бұрын
Strong “peach tea in a mason jar” vibes.
@mattied9203 Жыл бұрын
This is a good one. Thank you for continuing to carry the torch, Dan.
@BB-tm3sx Жыл бұрын
Undereducated theocratic neo-fascist: "Who needs that damn education and data when you got the Bible?!?" Dan: "Those are not actually mutually exclusive..."
@scambammer6102 Жыл бұрын
yeah but dan is trying to whitewash his holy book's repressive treatment of human sexuality by quibbling about semantics
@BB-tm3sx Жыл бұрын
@@scambammer6102 ???
@busylivingnotdying Жыл бұрын
@@scambammer6102 Actually Dan is not trying to whitewash the bible. You see it in his treatment of Paul's opinions about the Greeks. He disapproved of Paul's reading of why the Greeks had gay sex (because they worshipped the created instead of the creator, God gave them over to unnatural affections ... etc.). It seems to me that when the bible is narrow minded, he doesn't mind letting you know. For example, he emphazised that the bible condones slavery. And he has spoken against univocality and the inerrancy reading of the bible, something the fanatics clearly don't appreciate. But sometimes modern people misread ancient text, both because of modern politics and modern cultural understanding being forced on the text, and sometimes because traditions and translations have muddled the understanding of the text. And THEN he tries to correct the misunderstanding. It is not to defend OR slander the bible, it's just to attempt a more accurate reading (at least that's how it seems to me). The bible say many bad things, and then modern man add some more that is NOT in the text 😏
@scambammer6102 Жыл бұрын
@@busylivingnotdying It's politically incorrect to criticize gays so Dan is conveniently "interpreting" the bible so as not to do that when it totally does. Dan isn't the only one that does that. All of the pop biblical scholars do. Same thing with the Bible's treatment of women. Even assuming some of the worst passages are interpolations, they are still part of the holy scriptures that christians have worshipped for near 2000 years within an extremely patriarchal system. Pop scholars try to make the bible palatable for modern audiences, when it is really primitive and disgusting garbage that should be forgotten ASAP.
@busylivingnotdying Жыл бұрын
@@scambammer6102 I don't know Dan's motives, so I'm not going to say anything about that. But if I understand him correctly, he is not saying that various authors in the bible was not condemning certain types of gay sex (as well as a lot of other types of sex we respect today). It is just that the PARTICULAR kind of sexual activity they were talking about was foreign to us and very different from what we talk about today: 1. In the old testament world: Using sex as punishment in war. David and Samson cut off foreskins and the inhabitans of Sodom wanted to dominate sexually the angels visiting. This kind of activity is ILLEGAL today as well (we call it rape and sexual assault). 2. In the new testament world (the Greek world): Older "dominant," upper class men subjugated young men (often slaves and lower class soldiers) for their own pleasure. This kind of activity is frowned upon today as well. Sexual orientation and stable, mutual and respectful homosexual pairing was unknown both in the NT and OT - times. This does not make the bible "woke" or "progressive." It is just that its fingerpointing was directed at (to us) strange habits people had THEN. Fundamentalists don't understand that "times changes" and interprets ancient text as directives for modern lives that were unknown to biblical authors.
@Jake-zc3fk Жыл бұрын
Knocking it out of the ballpark again Dan!! Keep ‘em coming brother.
@greyskeptic3961 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing what you do and in such a casual style.
@pnwmeditations Жыл бұрын
Shooting the breeze with Dan on a porch sounds like a delight.
@michaeldhicks Жыл бұрын
I love, as always, your clarity, discipline, and patience in this rebuttal.
@sugaringcandy1464 Жыл бұрын
GET HIM AGAIN DANNNN (thank u for always engaging with these people's nonsense in a respectful and composed way even when they keep going after you and your credentials instead of considering for a second they mights still have something to learn from others)
@LostVibes77 Жыл бұрын
Plus even if dude was right.. bible still says love thy neighbor as yourself or thyself so you still treat them with love and respect as a Christian or just even as a person
@rainbowkrampus Жыл бұрын
Ah, but due to the guilt complex instilled in christians by forcing on them a non existent crime of "sin", all christians hate themselves. So to "love as you love yourself" means to hate. It's one of those, "you can't divide by zero" situations 😜
@dorothysay8327 Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY.
@scienceexplains302 Жыл бұрын
“Neighbor” probably means “fellow Israelite” in the Hebrew Bible. People who worshipped a particular god tended to live close to each other.
@rainbowkrampus Жыл бұрын
"Is that a Titleist?..." "Hole in one."
@nedsantos1415 Жыл бұрын
Someone living in Asia once told me: You can't wake up a person who pretends to sleep.
@bengreen171 Жыл бұрын
Am I wrong, or does Leviticus 19:28 not say, ‘Do not...put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the Lord'? Hmm. That sounds a lot less ambiguous than all those passages about s*x.
@MitzvosGolem1 Жыл бұрын
Against Halakic laws. We don't allow tattoo s . שלום
@GaryDunion Жыл бұрын
Ah but you forget that all the laws of Leviticus that are inconvenient for a right-wing authoritarian American in 2023 conveniently happen to be something called "ceremonial laws" which don't count. Whereas all the ones they like are conveniently "moral laws" which do.
@nasonguy Жыл бұрын
Bro really pulled a “You got a P H D, well I got my G E D!!!!” a la Ladykillers, lmao.
@John-cf5im Жыл бұрын
It is adorable when they try. 😂
@dorothysay8327 Жыл бұрын
How smug can we be. Surely we can be ….smug-er.
@dimitrioskalfakis Жыл бұрын
although the contender of these passages is at best 'challenged' there is a point in explaining these passages so that they are available to a wider more educated and open to knowledge audience. good job as always.
@JosephusMarinus Жыл бұрын
This man, unbelievable.. I show your content to so many people, even then they don’t wanna understand knowledge. For me Dan, you keep me sane. Some much love and gratefulness, thanks you!
@Stewpkiddable Жыл бұрын
absolutely no knowledge to be gained from the bible. it is a work of fiction intended to enslave humans until they die.
@ChrissyHFollowerOfJesus Жыл бұрын
Proverbs 12:23 "A prudent man conceals knowledge, But the heart of fools proclaims folly."‼️
@Bobson_Dugnutt_Esq Жыл бұрын
The guy really did try. Like Homer Simpson tried to build a barbecue pit. Unfortunately a lot of people thought this was an “own” on Dan :/
@yawmoght Жыл бұрын
He did try (with marking passages and stuff), but his tone was waaaay apart from any kind of respect.
@maninalift Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your videos Dan, but this one gave me motion sickness 😂
@StannisHarlock Жыл бұрын
I don't speak spanking sh, so I'm would never be so arrogant to call a Spanish speaking person a liar when they're telling me what a spanish word means. I would also never try to tell them what a Spanish word means.
@AurorXZ Жыл бұрын
"I don't speak spanking" 😂
@StannisHarlock Жыл бұрын
@@AurorXZ lmao. If not for you, I never would have noticed that, so I'm not even gonna edit it out. Probably my greatest typo ever
@AurorXZ Жыл бұрын
@@StannisHarlock Please don't-it's fantástico!
@QuinnPrice Жыл бұрын
Like an LDS apologist once told me; why let the truth stand in the way of a good story? He was trying to be cute, but revealed the ugliness of his thinking.
@dorothysay8327 Жыл бұрын
Mic- drop. You know Dan is LDS, right?
@meggsbacon7008 Жыл бұрын
Holy Shiite’s! Did a laymen with no formal education in a biblical scholarship just try to “correct ” a formally educated and bonafide published biblical scholar based on the wording of a translation of a translation of a translation of a translation, without knowing the original language, the anthropology of pre biblical societies and the majority consensus of biblical scholars in the field? I’m horrified and embarrassed at the audacity and hubris of the guy Dan stitched. Look, I’m all for healthy debate, but it must come from a place of well researched arguments on a level playing field… I mean Jesus Christ… 🤯 how Dan was able to refute and correct with such calmness and true grace is inspiring
@Outspoken.Humanist Жыл бұрын
Well done, as usual, Dan. This colourful character is blatant in his homophobia and is clearly seeking to justify it. I often wonder about the true feelings of people of need external justification or support for their position. That said, if he does not speak Greek and does not have access to a more accurate translation, it is not surprising that his biases are reinforced.
@byrondickens5 ай бұрын
I got the holy Spirit too. She told ME to listen to people with PhDs and consider their arguments before I shoot my mouth off and make myself look like an idiot.
@ChrissyHFollowerOfJesus Жыл бұрын
Ecclesiastes 2:26 "For to a person who is good in His sight He has given wisdom and knowledge and joy, while to the sinner He has given the task of gathering and collecting so that he may give to one who is good in God’s sight. This too is vanity and striving after wind."
@scyldscefing3913 Жыл бұрын
Perfect, tempered, logical response.
@GeekyTalksInc Жыл бұрын
Great job as always Dan! I want to see you do more from your swing though. It’s like you sipping on that tea while you share the facts with the idiots!❤😂
@stephenleblanc4677 Жыл бұрын
If English is good enough for God, it's good enough for me. Also, the idea of sex with angels has always made my blood run cold, especially since I found out my angle was a centerfold.
@emptyhand777 Жыл бұрын
FREEZE-FRAME!
@jimgsewell Жыл бұрын
sold your memories
@stephenleblanc4677 Жыл бұрын
@@jimgsewell "I" didn't sell them... it was the Sodomites!
@TwentySevenist Жыл бұрын
That was kind of hard to stomach... Glad I didn't have to watch it straight without Dan's thoughts.
@stormy8110 Жыл бұрын
Well, so much for making you look "really foolish" lol I appreciate your scholarship!
@basefcringenormieholic4361 Жыл бұрын
Its really, really difficult for contemporary folk to understand that "straight" people, "gay" people, "black" or "white" people didn't exist back then. That concept is as foreign to them as same sex intercourse purely for power is to us (although this is still prevalent, for example in many prison systems).
@nates9029 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, there is a reason that guy doesn't have a PhD. I give him credit for at least reading his Bible and highlighting it. Most Christians don't but he should try looking past just the surface of the Bible and specifically his preferred translations of the Bible. I wonder if this guy thinks he can fix his own car just by reading the warning lights or if he takes it to an expert, like a mechanic. I almost feel sorry for that guy but not really.
@subtle.presence Жыл бұрын
Well, he sure does seem like a can-do kinda guy. I think he does his own tattoos!
@rainbowkrampus Жыл бұрын
I saw an interview with a former christian not too long ago (can't remember much else about it so apologies that I can't point you to it) where they mentioned that they highlighted their book somewhat randomly because they were trying to "perform" being a good christian and somewhere in their conception of what that means, "person who highlights passages in the Bible" became a part of it. I can't help but think that they were not the only person who ever did this.
@dorothysay8327 Жыл бұрын
You should feel sorry for him. He’s been misinformed.
@subtle.presence Жыл бұрын
@@dorothysay8327 He himself has the responsibility to verify that information that he was misinformed with, just as I did. I feel more sorry for those he is currently misinforming.
@MsMindmoon Жыл бұрын
Gracious and patient, as always Dan ❤
@flyingteeshirts Жыл бұрын
The NRSV and NRSV Updated Edition translate to "sexual immorality and unnatural lust", then footnote "Greek: went after other flesh". I'm curious why it's still translating to "unnatural lust" instead of the more literal footnoted translation
@MsFitz134 Жыл бұрын
Bart Ehrman fairly recently interviewed a woman (it's somewhere on his channel... I think around January 2023?) who was on the NRSV-UE committee and she spoke on this, saying that it was a debate between the various scholars doing the translation and the religious institutions funding the project. She explains that it ultimately was essentially a compromise because there was no clear consensus.
@sebastiantorruella Жыл бұрын
I'd also argue that "went after other flesh" means basically nothing in English as I'm concerned. You'd need another footnote which explains that it means something like desire for intercourse with angelic/supernatural beings. Perhaps a rendition of "supernatural lust" or "lust towards the divine" with the direct translation footnoted would be better. I'm not sure, but it's probably a slightly dicey judgement call between intelligibility and direct translation.
@Aurealeus Жыл бұрын
@@MsFitz134 _"the religious institutions funding the project"_ says it all.
@Darisiabgal7573 Жыл бұрын
@@MsFitz134 They wanna sell bibles, and they are not going to sell many if they revert things like 1 John 5 to its original greek meaning.
@TacticusPrime Жыл бұрын
Lust directed toward angels is the unnatural lust.
@MitzvosGolem1 Жыл бұрын
Read the original Hebrew Scripture.. Excellent channel 👍 Bizarre how evangelical bible bangers think KJV is the original scripture.
@saveasdoc Жыл бұрын
I think another important thing to consider about Jude is that the *readers* of the passage (and in Genesis) know the men are angels. Whether or not the men in Sodom and Gomorrah actually did is less important. Ignorant or not, we know how extremely God feels about humans mixing with angelic beings, so that is the most sensible thing that's in consideration with both passages.
@5chevin5 Жыл бұрын
As a tried and true Atheist, I believe that it would be impossible for me to have a meaningful, rational or respectful conversation with Blake. That assessment has nothing to do with his education level, tattoos or anything, its based upon his over abundant zeal and unilateral commitment for HIS interpretation of his religion. However I feel despite my stance on religion I could have a thought provoking, educational and fascinating conversation with Dan. The irony is that it would be on the same exact subject.
@magister343 Жыл бұрын
The only problem I have is equating Sarkos Heteras to necessarily being between about humans and angels. The way I see it the term applies equally well to lusting after humans who were perceived as foreigners. Biblical and Jewish tradition around Sodom and Gomorrah focused a lot on their xenophobia and abuse of those we might now call illegal aliens. I doubt the Sodomite rapists knew the men they wanted to victimize were Angels, only that they were different as they came from outside their city state.
@AurorXZ Жыл бұрын
Yeah, perhaps I'm missing a key part of what they were debating when Jude was written, but I don't see how desiring what they _perceived to be men_ was "immoral" because they were _not men._ The desire wasn't "for" angels, but for what they appeared as.
@dorothysay8327 Жыл бұрын
Dan elides this whole issue. Conveniently.
@BobMueller Жыл бұрын
My only complaint here was that I was starting to get seasick from the porch swing. ;)
@jericosha2842 Жыл бұрын
The ironic thing is when you are on his side of the argument you would consider him bold, brave, and committed to the faith. I was once on that side too. Most of them are not trying to be idiots, but standing up for what they think is the truth. It's unfortunate the church has not educated them properly.
@dorothysay8327 Жыл бұрын
I believe you mean ‘hasn’t educated them properly’. And THANK YOU for giving this guy the modicum of human dignity snd residency he deserves. He’s wrong; he’s been reading a faulty translation. But why pile on him for this, in some smug, elitist way?
@jericosha2842 Жыл бұрын
@@dorothysay8327 Yes, thank you.
@BB-rh2ml Жыл бұрын
You are correct, most of them are “not trying to be idiots” as they are idiots without even trying.
@eudoxus100 Жыл бұрын
@@dorothysay8327 There are two problems with this: One, he is not just a misinformed debater but a disseminator of ignorance and proud of it. This wouldn't be a huge problem if it wasn't for: The other, which is that he is deliberately promoting hatred and violence against people for not agreeing with his misinterpretation.
@scottmaddow7879 Жыл бұрын
"I ain't got no PhD but I've watched KZfaq and am filled with irrational confidence and this baking soda poultice will cure cancer." Lol!
@mohsenhadee2414 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the cloistered ambiance of your room .
@chadkent327 Жыл бұрын
When I was a believer they taught us to treat the Bible (the physical book itself) with a great deal of reverence. For example, always putting it on the top of a stack of books, never on the bottom, always treating it respectfully. I wonder how many of this guys followers were shocked by the way he just threw it around in the video. Even though I don’t believe anymore, I still had an automatic cringe reaction when I saw that.
@emptyhand777 Жыл бұрын
If the King James Bible was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for 'merica! Don't bore us with your Greek and Hebrew translations.
@user-gk9lg5sp4y Жыл бұрын
I knows wut I knows, don't bother me with yer book lernin
@nates9029 Жыл бұрын
"I have the holy spirit and an English translation of a book written in languages that I haven't studied and you have that tell me that I am right and you are wrong". I agree that someone looks silly but it isn't Dan.
@TomofOregon56 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure he knows more than all the scientists, too!
@marionfowler4270 Жыл бұрын
God gave us King James's Book, and King Henry's Foot to use forever and never change!!
@magister343 Жыл бұрын
Many early Christians believed that the Septuagint was good enough for God and that there was no reason anyone ought to look into Hebrew translations. Those who did realize that the Hebrew text was older often still held that it did not become divinely inspired until translated into Greek.
@HumbleHerman5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@subtle.presence Жыл бұрын
Apparently, Dan, there are some things you simply do not understand. Namely, the Bible was originally written in English and with the use of a highlighter, and can only be properly understood by someone reading it with a southern drawl. Someday I hope you are properly schooled in these facts.
@lollellie Жыл бұрын
$5 says that dude stridently opposes people trying to "help the poor and needy."
@genotriana3882 Жыл бұрын
Ok great so we can’t say for sure that Ezekiel and Genesis specifically address homosexual sex. Romans, Leviticus, and Corinthians do. We know that the love we are called to practice with everyone is not the same as romantic love. The Bible offers guidelines about using our all of our lives including our sexuality (if married) or celibacy (if not married) in reliance on the Spirit to glorify the Father and represent the gospel. There are many straight people who get married and/or use their sexuality to glorify themselves which is also outside of Biblical morality. The Bible teaches that God freely offers the solution to sin regardless of your orientation but we must agree with His ways and trust in Him for that provision.
@kvjackal7980 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dan! Man, how in the _world_ do you keep so composed and respectful when responding to these folks at the apex of the Dunning-Kruger chart? Fr though, like, even while they're being so intolerant and disrespectful to you, how do you keep from dismounting them from that paper thin high horse? Idk if I'd be able to bite my tongue as diligently as you have. What's your secret?
@LoveAllAnimals101 Жыл бұрын
The English language is approximately 1,400 years old. It originated from a West Germanic language and was brought over to Britain in the mid 5th century by the Anglo Saxons (during a migration).
@kamskas6226 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what his Bible spirit would say about all those beautiful tattoos. Leviticus 19:28 says, “You shall not make any gashes in your flesh for the dead or tattoo any marks upon you: I am the LORD.”
@naysneedle5707 Жыл бұрын
I swear this guy thinks the Bible was written in English.
@TheSlasherJunkie Жыл бұрын
Strong’s concordance is free, this could just as easily be handled with five minutes of poking around three different apps instead of trying to look like the patron saint of methamphetamine.
@TonyZilincik Жыл бұрын
I love your work, Dan, but I fear that the people that cling to the literal text in their copy will never look beyond their needs. We are in frightening times, but I guess that we have been there for quite some time.
@BB-rh2ml Жыл бұрын
But they don’t cling to the “literal text of the bible”, they only cling to the bits that hurt the people they hate.
@TonyZilincik Жыл бұрын
@@BB-rh2ml Correct!
@jenna2431 Жыл бұрын
These people sound like addicts being told to give up their drug.
@shanegooding48393 ай бұрын
When someone's homophobia is more important to them than their humility you know you're witnessing real spirituality.
@andrebrown8969 Жыл бұрын
Lot was also planning to send his two daughters out. I am more concerned about that.
@minaguta4147 Жыл бұрын
That porch swing makes me dizzy... 😵💫
@danaplaczek9664 Жыл бұрын
Very good video, with great arguments, as always. But, the swing is a bit distracting... Hope that you're having a good time.
@basilkearsley2657 Жыл бұрын
Good to see someone who reads the Bible in English argue with someone who reads the Bible in its original language
@dianeconrad1978 Жыл бұрын
Sir, your education has provided you the ability to read. Dan's education has provided him the ability to understand. Therein lies the difference between.
@Corvidknows Жыл бұрын
So Dan, who's holding your beer, so to speak?
@FarhatGuitarOfficial Жыл бұрын
Beautiful answers❤
@HumbleHerman5 ай бұрын
I gotta say, though, that I like Mr. B I B L E, whoever he is … does he have his own channel?
@tytrib Жыл бұрын
Let’s go golfing bro!
@clifb.3521 Жыл бұрын
I have to wonder how many people think the Bible was originally written in English // Also 4:09
@michaelanderson4849 Жыл бұрын
This fella has teh holy fart... ehh, I mean spirit, as teacher, which, as he pointed out, clearly trumphs any academic training. Amen and Halleballelujah.
@clinchleatherwood1012 Жыл бұрын
Dan, I'm a huge fang of your work. For us dumb dumbs who can't read Greek; which English translation would you recommend? Thanks!
@MrNineAte7 Жыл бұрын
I love this!!!
@Mon-Alisa Жыл бұрын
How do we know the idea of homosexuality was not a thing back then? There likely have always been homosexual people, so wouldn’t there have been some sort of understanding of that possibility at that time? Is the lack of evidence of an awareness of homosexuality proof that there was no awareness of it, or is it just a lack of evidence? Thank you for all of the very helpful and needed education you are providing for us!
@wyattw9727 Жыл бұрын
Homosexuality did exist, however the Ancient and Classical World in western Eurasia held a strong tradition of bisexuality along with it, which can also be observed in many mythical or historical figures of the period often attributed as being homosexual who were more likely bisexual, although guessing sexualities of dead people is a bit hard. Essentially from the period's view, a hole's a hole, whoever is the owner of the hole is irrelevant. Masculinity is defined by taking/seizing, thus anyone who is the receiver is feminine by definition. Thus to their view, nobody giving is 'gay', they are merely 'man'. In the view of the ancients, the modern perception of gay men would be best equated to those who took the role of receiver, which normally ended once they hit maturity. Social condemnation would come if a person still kept receiving after maturity, as it made the rest of society view them as weak, effeminate. Meanwhile the person fucking them, even if the receiver was grown, would almost never be construed as 'gay', because he is simply fulfilling his male obligation of seizing and dominating.
@dehn6581 Жыл бұрын
People view themselves and others differently largely based on cultural frameworks. Modern ideas of sexuality as an individualistic permanent identity didn't exist in those cultures. Individualistic permanent identity as a cultural concept is not shown in what remains of these cultures and isn't a universal cultural concept even today - there have been debates for centuries as to whether that's a good/healthy/accurate way to discuss sense of self and it is far from settled, though most Western ideas around it have grown more in this vein over the last hundred years or so. Sexual behaviour was treated as just that, a behaviour, until we get to the post-'enlightenment' Western academic obsession of turning behaviours and traits into defining identity categories. There were several terms used to describe what we now would call gay/homosexual, but much like the many terms they came for race, most of them fell out of use and what we use now will likely fall out of use in time. So, while there have always been people who were attracted to people of the same sex, we can't really say there has 'always been' any sexuality if we're treating sexuality as a permanent identity based on experiencing that attraction. It can be a convenient way to describe it through time and place, but it like every lens like this isn't the default or universal way of seeing this.
@Mon-Alisa Жыл бұрын
@@dehn6581 @wyattw9727 Very helpful and well thought out responses - thank you!
@Dalekzilla Жыл бұрын
If Christ (who in FACT never addressed this issue, but who The Bible says is given ALL judgement....John 5:22, and cautioned us about judging others) showed up tomorrow and told these bibliolators that they could no longer despise lgbtq people, or discriminate against them (thanks SCOTUS) , you would see most of them leave Christianity, I honestly believe. Hatred of people they disapprove of, or who vote the wrong way, or who just plain old disagree with them, is their favourite part of their "version" of the religion.
@dorothysay8327 Жыл бұрын
I know from personal, empirical experience this is not true.
@Dalekzilla Жыл бұрын
@@dorothysay8327 So, Christ showed up and told them that? I must have missed out on that one.
@janetmilan4698 Жыл бұрын
This guy wouldn't know anything about the sin of arrogance, now would he?😏
@anthonycifelli666 Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏
@jamesduncan3673 Жыл бұрын
Datyum. You cold. Love it.
@ZachariahWiedeman Жыл бұрын
Someone who uses "the Holy Spirit" to explain their epistemology is basically confessing, "Things mean whatever I feel they mean, regardless of any evidence to the contrary." Oh, and "whatever I feel they mean" somehow always turns to be whatever their preconceived notion was. Funny how that works. This is incredibly dangerous and is responsible for a lot of pain and tragedy in this world.
@Darisiabgal7573 Жыл бұрын
If dat dere Ka'ing James B I B L E be that ga'ood enuff for Geezuus den dat dere B I B L E be there ga'ood nuff for me. Hey dere Bubba pass tha lone star, I got a dead fly in mine, either that or it be my snuff. Whoops, i been drinking out of my spit can.[Hiccup]
@naysneedle5707 Жыл бұрын
0:00 "Do not harass this creator or comment on their appearance or speech"
@Darisiabgal7573 Жыл бұрын
@@naysneedle5707I'de be so glory blessed by Gee Hovah if he got off dat dere chinese communist Teek Tock thangy and come ha'ear to so we cood chew the fat. Doncha thank?
@ZachariahWiedeman Жыл бұрын
Dan, I gotta be honest with you: that swing was making me dizzy! 😵💫😅
@imagomonkei Жыл бұрын
“I've got the holy spirit.” This is the most insidious part of born-again evangelicalism. If you think you have God's spirit inside you and guiding your interpretation of the Bible, it's impossible to be wrong about anything. These people are the textbook definition of Dunning-Kruger.
@scienceexplains302 Жыл бұрын
*Sodom and Gomorrah -> Noah’s Ark* Both stories have one good man surrounded by “evil” men. In both, God sends a message that he is going to destroy everyone else, mainly with something falling (rain, brimstone). Both involve or are introduced by a story about gods/angels having sex with people. The one good man gets to save his family along with him. Sons(-in-law) are featured in both stories as being included, although that is a theme in most stories. Some of the survivors beget nations. _The urgent warning in __19:15__ includes “swept away” in some translations, but the Hebrew verb does not seem to imply a flood._ Obviously there are also big differences. But one of them is the outcry to YHWH against the city - reminiscent of the noise that provoked the god In Gilgamesh to destroy humanity, a story that inspired the Noah’s Flood myth.
@lde-m8688 Жыл бұрын
Wow......
@carlospenalver8721 Жыл бұрын
@dan how about a video on bible thumpers telling peoples sins are forgiven if the do A B C, in particular the only part of the bible that says they are so condemned after being judged in spirit as if in the flesh by god. There was only one son that carried that punishment even tho other parts also refer the judgment in spirit as in the flesh and that was the sin of “ taking your fathers wife for yourself” that being the only one I recalled while other judgments had a bit of wiggle room to get out of hell but that particular sin left one abandoned and unsalvageable period. Can’t recall the exact verse but it should be easy for you to know what I am speaking of.
@roofdogblues7400 Жыл бұрын
Really wish your audio was as loud as the loudmouths audio.
@NinJestre Жыл бұрын
Did Dan just call this guy out for performing the sin of the text? Because I'm 90% sure, I just watched that happen
@NoWay1969 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that hillbilly had any Greek so, this is kinda unfair. He seemed to be struggling with his mother tongue there.
@djfrank68 Жыл бұрын
I could have turned the volume off and still guessed there would be a southern accent.
@Greyz174 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if the bible likes being thrown on the couch for theatrical purposes
@obsidian3379 Жыл бұрын
I dont think book has an emotion more like God does not like it. It is his word after all.
@Greyz174 Жыл бұрын
@@obsidian3379 no, the book is a personal being. We are the best of friends.
@Goodbrod Жыл бұрын
Oy, that guy is way out of his league.
@thalasyus5 ай бұрын
Leviticus 19:28. I have bad news for you, son...
@jamestaillon4781 Жыл бұрын
Dan, for your point to stand on its own merits, one is tasked with the belief that Angelic Beings are "flesh." Do you honestly support that position? The "men with men" portion of the Scripture rings quite clear, does it not? Even if one concedes that the only point or right interpretation is to understand that the transference of "power" (one man to another) is what's an abomination in the eyes of The Lord, then it ought not be done for any reason...ever. I believe the problem most Christians have with your refutation is the allowance of ongoing sin through the creation of a "grey area" when/where there ought not be one.
@tsotate Жыл бұрын
I like the content of your videos, but _please_ normalize the volume of the creators you're stitching. Your own audio was inaudible at any volume at which his wasn't blowing out my eardrums.