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One thing I do like about Better Call Saul is the ending to Mike's story - Mr. Varga pretty clearly very clearly tells Mike (and the viewers) that his code of honor is nonsense, and he's just as bad as the rest of the gangsters. It almost felt like an apology on the writers' part for how hypocritically Mike was handled in Breaking Bad

One theory I have regarding why Walt was so passive at the start of the series is that he was suffering from depression. We don't know why- maybe something happened, maybe it just developed, but like many people, Walt developed a mild to moderate case of depression and it sapped his drive and career ambitions. This led to the change in his attitude, and ironically, the cancer diagnosis and his crime involvement helped bring him out of the depression, changing his attitude towards life and success.

Mike is the strong, silent type

By the way, Marie's kleptomania is because Hank is abusive and neglectful toward her. She is doing it for the dopamine rush and for attention. Its common for addicts to relapse during times of stress, and kleptomania is an addiction. She was in "recovery" with her therapist until Hank got shot, and so she went back to stealing to get her "high"

Do we know for sure Gus put the hit out on Thomas? I always interpreted it as Gus telling the 2 dealers "No more children" was their last interaction on the matter, and the dealers misinterpreted Gus' words and killed Thomas instead of letting him go or at least not continuing to make him sell meth.

Interesting you think season 4's poison reveal would have been a loose thread. I disagree, if face off was the finale then the final point would be, look how evil Walt got in order to "win."

I appreciate so much you have a reasonable take on Skyler. It is so funny how at first she was over hated but like you said the pendulum has swung completely the opposite way. So many people act like she did nothing wrong and it just blows my mind how people just ignore so many things like her trying to get Walt to put a hit out on Jessie or having Saul’s goons go out and make Ted pay his taxes 😆 That’s the best part of breaking bad is that no one is bad (black) or good (white) but rather a different shade of grey and while Skylar may not be as bad as Walt she is by no means a good, innocent person. She aided and abetted Walt’s criminal empire by the end (why do you think she refused to cooperate with Hank)

It felt that Marie's story got de-emphasized for a while to provide time to Jesse (who as we all know was supposed to be a season 1 only character).

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Brock wasn't an innocent character by any means. If he wasn't so greedy when drinking that juicebox, Andrea would have survived. But no, he just HAD to have that apple juice. Honestly on the same level as Jack.

My position on the Skyler thing is extremely similar to yours. The majority of viewers understand on an objective level that she is a more moral figure than Walt, even in the earlier seasons when Walt isn't that bad. But it doesn't change the fact that for most of the show she acts as a fundamental meta-antagonist to the entire narrative. Her character is constantly threatening to end the plot, to end the show, to end the entertainment. Combined with the facts that Walter is mostly fairly sympathetic in seasons 1 and 2, and the knowledge that most people tend to kind of project themselves as being the main character in the film/TV/literature they engage with, and it makes sense! The show *does* set you up to if not outright dislike Skyler, than at least be frustrated by her activities. And as per the people who like to jerk themselves off over their "media literacy" (i.e., being smart enough to realize that the character who does not poison children is probably a better person than the one who does), it ultimately ends up reflecting their own inability to understand extremely fundamental aspects of regular human psychology. Is it really so impossible to comprehend why people are biased against a character that is trying to stop the protagonist? It's thousand of years of storytelling programmed into our brains. It all just reeks of someone going "Wow, I can't believe they missed the point by idolizing him..." when they see an extremely tongue-in-cheek sigma Patrick Bateman edit.

I agree with you thoughts about Mike, and although Mike is right to a certain extent with what he says to Walt, he seems to forget Walt “doing his job” would mean the Jesse, who he likes, would be dead

Love this video format. My hot take would be I just dislike all of season 5 as a whole. After gus the nazis and co were so uninteresting to me and a huge step down from season 4.

Also love the second take as I fully agree this discourse around Skylar is borderline gaslighting 😂. She was written as basically an antagonist to walt and extremely annoying. She is your typical middle aged Karen. No one is saying she is evil but was absolutely written to be one of Walts foils in the story and we are here to see a dying science teacher become a drug kingpin lol.

Completely agree with your Skyler take, I thought it was really weird how passionate some people were about hating her and just as weird how some people now are trying to make her into the only innocent victim of the show. It also always rubbed me the wrong way how condescending and passive-aggressive she often is in her interactions with "the working class", even though a lack of empathy for those worse off than you is kind of a big theme for a lot of characters in the show. And this should go without saying, but anyone who hates a character on a show enough to harass the actor playing them needs to seriously reconsider their relationship with the media they consume because normal, well-adjusted people don't do stuff like that.

I think BCS is better than breaking bad up to the 4th seaon. The relationship between Jimmy and Chuck is what ultimately makes the show for me.

Mike’s final scene in breaking bad was always meant to be hypocritical. He’s fully aware that he isn’t innocent, the only reason he’s mad at Walt is because now he has to skip town and abandon his family thanks to Gus’ death. He’s completely right about Walt’s ego, he’s simply trying to win the argument since there’s nothing else he can do in his situation. In hindsight, it is weird that he doesn’t really comment on Tomás’ murder, but at the same time he likely sees betraying Gus as too big of a risk for both him and his family. Not to mention that he has become very desensitised to everything, and has given up attempting to fix/change anything, as we see with the nacho plotline in BCS. Mike’s death is where we finally see the cracks in his stone-cold persona come to fruition. It shows us that he and Walt are even more alike than we thought. After all, Mike is the last thing standing in Walt’s way to become a real Meth kingpin and thus able to retire with $80 million, at least until Hank finds out.

I agree with the finale to a degree. I always thought that Walts plan seemed a bit lucky/fortunate that it went off successfully, compared to some of his other plans.

can't wait to see a Kim's feet hot topic in video about BCS

Yeah the ending stops me from rewatching the show sometimes just coz I don’t like it and know that Walt kinda wins and it irks me

Have you ever done a follow up vid on Sopranos lost media? Someone found that Lebron recruitment video

twenty videos he won't do better call saul logs; all of a sudden he's the world's foremost authority!

Awesome video, love your breakdown of all these takes you really have a cool opinion on all of them

I just farted so hard my back cracked

I miss that time of my life so much. Not to mention the show itself went out before it got stale

Hey Kino, I’m not sure if you’re a sports fan but it relates to Sopranos content big time.Apparently, in 2010 when Lebron James was a free agent the Knicks pitched him the chance to come to New York and their pitch video was Tony and Carmela in witsec figuring out where Lebron should reside in New York and then ultimately choosing Madison Square Garden(The Arena where the Knicks play).Despite being a weird recruitment, it could prove that Tony lived after the series finale(if canon.)

You should definitely check out Rescue me. The show perfectly blends comedy and drama and doesn’t get as much recognition as it deserves.

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I love how you talk out the infestation of "intellectuals" who bring down content to only be viewed in their way. Makes me think of one guy who said dune is all about toxic moasculinity. Love you dislike those taoes as well kino!

I just found you and im very glad cuz of this Nice video! (Apart of this one thing u said about Lalo, how dare you, i guess i must check your vid about him) Good job 👍

Idk why you make a dichotomy between having fun with the show and being able to pick up on the not at all subtle theme and central storyline of the show. You don't need to deeply analyze the show to realize that Walt isn't a hero that you should root for. Same thing for Skyler, she's not "making the show boring" by confronting Walt, her opposition to Walt is a part of the tension of the story. The show would be boring if everything is just going smoothly for him. Also she's not the only character that tries to stop Walt or make his pursuit more difficult, yet she's the one a large chunk of the audience vehemently hates.

I think the "media literacy" phenomenon is just a subcategory of gatekeeping. You could replace "You missed the entire point" with "You're not a real fan, unless" and the sentence would ultimately be the same, in terms of content. I've always belonged in the radical camp of "All art is subjective, and even the creator has absolutely no say in what something is supposed to mean." because all information is ultimately processed through the lens of your own biases, and there's no way for you to, perfectly, see something from the point of view of someone else. This ultimately means that Breaking Bad has a slightly different meaning for everyone who watches it, and if only Vince's interpretation is correct, then literally no one understands the true point, because only Vince is Vince, and only Vince knows what Vince was thinking when some particular scene was written.

Fly is the best episode in retrospective but at the time of release it was very controversial because the audience had to wait an entire week after the fly episode for actual action to happen. Similar to the better call Saul episode nippy.

the biggest problem with felina imo is the gretchen and elliot stuff

You should make another one of these. And you should make a Better Call Saul one if you weren't already planning on it

Wow, a video where you don't defend and lament Adriana from Sopranos. I am surprised Mr. Kino.

Walter's decline in career makes a whole lot more sense today than when the show first came out Especially when you consider that the creator of Space Ghost Coast to Coast, the show that launched Adult Swim into what it is today, now works as an Amazon delivery driver who has to go to conventions to supplement his income. Now Walt's problems are all of his own doing, which is what the show really is all about, but it ages better over time tbh

Loved your points about Media Literacy. It's just a buzzword that certain people use to shame people who find enjoyment in something in ways those people don't like.

My hot take is that Andrea shouldn't have died. It was horrible the way they killed her in front of Jesse, and makes the whole show much more depressing in rewatches for Jesse, Andrea and Brock's storylines. It came out of nowhere and affected nothing, it was the only thing in Breaking Bad done purely for shock value

When are you gonna make The Wire logs?

I have three hot takes: 1) Jesse routinely shows himself to be kind of awful, and like Mike, complicit in terrible, terrible things. Jesse gets kind of a pass by most fans because he's just simply surrounded by people who are so much worse. When pretty much every major character in the criminal side of the show seems eager to kill kids, or unwilling to protect them, Jesse seems like kind of an oasis in comparison. It also certainly does not hurt that he's handsome and often used for comic relief. I feel like a lot of fans think of him as a bit like a puppy. 2) Secondly, Gus has never done much for me. I went years hearing about how Gus was one of the greatest villains of all time. When I finally watched BB for the first time a few years ago, he didn't strike me as particularly rich in characterization. The reserved, calculated villain is not exactly an unexplored trope in fiction. And by no means do I think a character has to be novel to be engaging, but I honestly found Gus a little cartoonish. Things like slitting Victor's throat for kind of nebulous reasons were just huge shark jumps for me that took me out of the show. And while a character like Lalo revels in and embraces his cartoonishness, it feels like the show is telling you you're supposed to take Gus super seriously, when (in my eyes) he's really just one more side of the same extreme. Before I watched BB, I assumed Gus would be the main antagonist of the entire series, when in reality he's only hostile to Walt for one full season. Hank is really more the overarching antagonist of the show, even if he is a more heroic character than Walter. 3) Hank actually is a hero. It's become kind of popular to say he isn't, but I've never followed the logic. I know his hands aren't totally clean, but are anyone's? I think the few immoral things he done are entirely forgivable given the context they occur. He's a flawed person, but he consistently does the right thing more times than not in the series. He has dedicated his life to taking down a despicable operation that results in hundreds of deaths and thousands of ruined lives. Meth is bad and the people who sell it are bad. I don't understand why it seems like sometimes he's given more criticism than Jesse.

Skylar had her moments, but I don't have issue with her. She was stuck between a rock and a hard place. She had her own internal battle with Walt's actions. Now if we are gonna talk about crappy wives... Lori Grimes haha!

Kino have you seen Six Feet Under? Fantastic show that I just finished, highly recommend!

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There's nothing proving that Gus did order the hit on Tomas,

I don't like when people constantly try to compare BB and BCS, I think the're just as good and most people like both.

I don't care, I still hate Skylar. It's not about who was taking the right or wrong actions. It's the characters. Hank is directly opposed to Walter. Yet somehow we like both. It's because they both have character traits that make them relatable and to some degree likeable. Skylar is just awful. Even if she's innocent. Even if she's right. Still awful.

People missunderstand felina. The show is abt Walter wanting to live life the way he wants it but he is unable to admit to himself who he is. When he says ‘’i did it for me’’ he finally faces that he gets to die on his own terms

This is why you are one of the best guys around Kino. I wholeheartedly agree on all of these points. It seems to me many of the people who jump to Skyler Whites defense are people who forget that these are actually fictional characters and they don’t need you to defend them lol. At the same time people who hate Skyler and extend that hate to the actress are equally as cringe but I feel that’s an extremely small portion of the community. The media literacy people are just awful in general.

"Felina" is a good episode, but the ending is bad because it misses the point of "crime doesn't pay" and gives Walt his happy ending, which he didn't deserved. Better call Saul did the ending much much better, The Shield did better, The Sopranos did better, even the two terrible finales for Dexter did better as a conclusion than Breaking Bad. I agree that "Face-off" would have been a bad ending, and that's why i think "Granite state" would been a better ending with Walt dying or being arrested at the ending of the episode.

I can see the positive qualities for Felina but when we got to the point where it was the highest rated episode of any show on IMDb because it satisfied a bunch of walt apologists that's when my brain broke (Yes I'm aware that Ozymandias is higher now)

I liked the whole show. From beginning to end. Better than ‘Saul’. Though I liked ‘Saul’ especially Mike. Saul dragged a bit.

Kim and Nacho are just side characters in the Jimmy and Mike show.

My hot take is the show should've ended with "I Won." iirc season 4 was the original ending and was written as a potential finale just incase. The production company almost stopped season 5 from happening and that would've been fine imo. Also Vince Gilligan told on himself by writing Kim as an actually likeable wife character. If his comments about Skylar always being meant as the hero were true he would've written Kim to be much more like Skylar.

The Skyler conflict is good, but I think the pacing is off. It takes less than a season for her to kind of like Walt again.

Walt did not ein a Nobel Prize. He helped in the research that led to someone else winning it.

My hot take is I like Better Call Saul more than Breaking bad Im kinda indifferent on walt as a protagonist, but Saul is always interesting and entertaining, which just makes for a better show to me. Not the BB is a bad show solid 8.5 but BCS hits like a 9 for me

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Anyone with a Nobel Prize can get a cushy job for life at a university. To fail must mean that he fucked up in a shameful or criminal way.

Idc what anyone says saul gone>>>> felina

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My name is Skyler white yo. Don’t sell my husband weed yo

The opinion on Walt's Backstory at 10:40 is really interesting, but I won't lie, I do slightly disagree that it doesn't work or make sense. In my personal opinion, Breaking Bad paints a picture of a man who is deeply insecure due to extremely high sense of pride. His entire character hums an underlying and building hubris, where any times he might be successful, he creates his own pitfalls by avoiding anything that damages that pride. He has a deep need to be seen as strong, capable, and powerful but through avoiding things that would make him look lesser such as leaving Gretchen for fear of his upbringing vs. hers, he's landed himself in what he views as a truly shameful life. He left Gretchen, took the pay put, was supposed to have a temporary job as a teacher, but as his son was disabled, he suddenly was limited by financial needs to care for him medically and otherwise and his resume was lacking before he could go anywhere else, and he resigned himself to his life as a teacher too stressed about leaving that stability for another harder hit to his pride. Part if this came from his father and him viewing his own dad as weak in the face of illness and him wanting to be a strong, masculine figure that is remembered as such even when he dies. Overall, his pride and ego is what led him to fearing taking another shameful step and trapping him in his mundane life as a teacher. So, the slightest taste of power in meth making and being free of these burdens through his inevitable death is freeing. He can take those steps, he can ride those highs, because the consequences he once feared has an end to them. He's a well regarded character because of those real perplexing mix of who he is. He does love his family, but he can't stop chasing the high of power, so his reasoning behind making Meth is a convoluted mix of both until it slowly becomes not for his family. He's a manipulative, egotistical man who would turn meek or feign weakness for fear of consequences to him and the people around him. The doubt of not succeeding and the pride inside that looks down on himself for failing keeps him frozen until he no longer has pride for dying and finds himself already in the middle of the road when he no longer is going to die. Not my personal videos or plugs, but I love love love sharing videos I enjoy on similar topics and I've been enjoying your Breaking Bad videos so far. I think you might like these two! If not, no worries, I just like talking about things haha. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iZmKodmTmJ_PgX0.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hsendc11rK2zc4U.html

Media literacy is when you agree with me

I agree completely with your BCS take btw - on rewatch, I watched seasons 1-4, then just episodes 9 and 10 of season 5, then jump to the timeskip at the end of S6 right after Kim leaves (where Jimmy has gone full Saul, he's not Gene yet). Filling in the blanks based off Jimmy attracting Lalo to their personal life is better than having to endure that cartel plot again, as entertaining as Lalo is. BCS had a stronger finale than BB after all that too IMO.

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"Machismo" isn't pronounced like "machisimo;" i dont know why you continue to say it like that.

Not as good as Sopranos, but nothing is Badabing badaboom

I blame the pacing issues of better call Saul on El caminos hands. El Camino is cool and all, but all I remember from that movie is Aaron Paul's receding hairline.

Gabbagool? Ovah here!

Yeah I disagree about BCS but thanks.

I like how half of the comments are just memes Reminds me of the good times of Theneedledrop, before he went cuck after that TheFader article

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Tbh after what u said ab Lalo everything you say is invalid lol

Breaking Bad's Finale is pretty MID, as a whole, especially the final Antagonists being a nobody like Tom n some Hicks

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I thought Fly is great.

Terrible Lalo take. Best villain over Gus easy.

people who think bcs is better then breaking bad are INSANE

sopranos no entertainment value off marone

I agree. I think Granite State was a better episode than Felina. I think the problem with breaking bad is that they killed Gus off too early and magically brought in Nazi bad guys from stage left. Also, BCS was better. Thats not a hot take.

How do you know he got the money to his family? Really think Elliot wouldn’t have just gone to the cops? So in the last episode Walter doesn’t get everything he wants. And even if he does you are left to wonder as the camera pans up from his dead body if any of it was worth it. And apparently you answered that with yes😂bad take

Immediately paused the video with the intent to go watch another one after you said media literacy is a cringey term. Aren't you a media commentator? You practice media literacy with every video you make. Come on man you're smarter than that.

I feel like the Skyler hate is justified. She’s a straight up bad person. She cheats on her husband, then steals all of the family’s money to give it to the guy she is cheating on her husband with. Then later in in the show, when Walt and Saul have the money laundering plan already figured out, she forces herself into the plan by making herself the chief money launderer only to complain About having to launder the money like two episodes later. Skyler makes similar shitty choices as Walt. We all agree Walt is a bad guy. Idk how the person committing tax fraud, volunteering to join a criminal enterprise, and cheating on their spouse is supposed to be the moral compass of the show. For me, Skyler is the worst part of the show, because of the squandered opportunity. If she was an actual good person dealing with this monster in her home it would be so much more compelling. Instead it’s just a contest over who can act shitter and who can propagandize the kids better. I feel it was a missed opportunity.

My favourite hot take is that El Camino is worse than Many Saints

35 seconds ago is crazy

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Sorry Skyler haters, ywnsaw

I always thought Kino was beautiful, rubenesque