I apologize i know my comment has nothing to do with the video. But i just wanted to express my feelings to you guys. I only recently found this channel a few months ago abd just loveseeing a community of EU fans on youtube

This Book really highlights the difference between Anakin and Obi-Wan as well, Anakin internalizes his problems and lets them fester like an untreated wound until they explode, while Obi-Wan takes them and lets the force have them, its ironic that the Chosen One has such difficulty releasing his feelings to the force, while Obi-Wan someone that wasn't considered all that noteworthy by most masters when he was a Youngling is able to do so with ease.

I remember seeing a translation of R2D2 talking to Luke before they went to Dagobah, and it went something along the lines of R2D2 asking Luke what they were going to do next. Usually whenever R2's speech is seen on a monitor, it's just general talk that you would expect from a droid. The funniest translated R2 speech in my opinion is when he was begging Anakin to turn around when he was about to go through the Naboo blockade.

Just as a note, the scene of Kenobi and Yoda entering the Jedi Temple was different in the film. In a deleted scene it's actually the clones who try to disguise themselves as Jedi so hunchback Ewan was unfortunately not shot.

Great overview! i wish it was 40 hours. But I am excited for Dark Lord.

They all had so many chances to stage an intervention for Anakin. Everybody failed him.

When Obi says "How uncivilised", unless it was changed in the book, was him referring to have to use a blaster instead of the lightsaber to kill the General.

I recently finished the audiobook for the first time I don’t know why it took me so long but yeah, brilliant, can’t wait to watch this.

While i do agree that this honestly isn't the way i'd have done all this, like i feel anakin's fall needs a lot of work. one thing that i feel isn't mentioned enough is that anakin is on the clock too. like according to his visions she dies in childbirth, and given that she gives birth like a day after this, like they had to be expecting any day. so when sidious says only when you're strong enough in the dark side can we save her, anakin has no time, and basically has to cannonball into the dark side full force. now characterwise we can say killing younglings is just so far out of the realm for him, but in a practical sense, he's doing the worst he can to mire himself in the dark cause he has no time. like i said i don't love this lol. but it adds a little a think to his fall. Love the video and love the discussion! you guys are the best!

32:10 I remember reading a comment which implied , or suggesting smth like this : Mace told Anakin to wait in the council chambers , because this was Anakin's final trial , and if he waited there , Mace would returned and granted him rank of master , that's why he insisted to wait in council chambers . Idk , just a cool sweet little theory , which makes everything that happened even sadder 1:22:20 lol This 4 parts were blast to watch , thank you Are you considering to review any from new canon ? Lost Stars probably is the only one worth to in my opinion

Guys where are you I miss seeing your videos it brightens my day and we have had a episode 9 title reveal and 3 trailer I'd enjoy your views even though i know there will be a lot bad keep up the great content. :)

1:18:47 🤣🤣🤣 the whole cheerful "Thank you" got me

1:25:12 the scene deleted from the film was Clones pretending to be Jedi (at least the more common one found on KZfaq).

for the anakin and obi wan fight. matt said something in an earlier vid i agree with. from the movies, you never get a sense of why anakin is the chosen one. on screen he never does anything beyond the pail really. nothing that outstrips everyone around him i had the thought when playing the game while ago lol when he jumps off the antenna. in the movie, it's not like an oh shit this guy is insane moment. it's just kinda oh he jumped back kinda mehly. in the game, anakin like launches like a rocket. idk if it would play well on screen but in the game, that felt like a holy shit what will it take to stop him moment. to me that's what the whole mustafar duel should have been. anakin going way beyond anything we've seen before and obi just barely holding on. weathering the storm. anakin should have been pulling wild insane force feats that were just awe inspiring. cause that's another element of this fight the movie doesn't make clear. yes this fight determines the fate of the galaxy blah blah. but what should really be coming across on obi wan's side is, oh shit, this has to end here and now, because vader is only going to get stronger if i fail today. like right now, he's still training and learning to harness the dark, today is the only day we have a chance of stopping him. cause if he wins, nothing in this galaxy is going to stand a chance. and him being insane with the force powers and abilities during the fight would have bolstered that. like oh you think he's a threat now? just wait.

I've been really enjoying listening to the review of this and Labrinth whilst working. I'd love to hear whether Rise is in the works. Very enjoyable, cheers.

59:44 I think it was a combination of things that prevented most Jedi from sensing this. The first is the shroud of the Dark Side has been cast, diminishing the Jedi's perceptions. They couldn't see through Palpatine, a Sith Lord hiding in plain sight, for decades, so I wouldn't be surprised that most were unable to see the deception of the clones when Order 66 came through. The second is that some of the clones had been with the Jedi for years in the war, maybe even at the very start, and had achieved a degree of trust and respect. But when the order came through, it would confuse the Jedi for a couple of seconds and those seconds are enough for the Jedi's defenses to drop. You see this with Ki-Adi Mundi on Mygeeto during the montage. Third is that most of Jedi are in the middle of a campaign or battles when this is occurring and the presence of danger can shift at any moment. Most Jedi on the field wouldn't realize what had shot them until it was too late such as what we see in the montage. From pages 696-697 the book even describes that the Clone Wars was the perfect Jedi trap with the perfect noose to trap them in: the clones. "With the Jedi Order overextended, spread thin across the galaxy, each Jedi is alone, surrounded by whatever clone troops he, she, or it commands. War itself pours darkness into the Force, deepening the cloud that limits Jedi perception. And the clones have no malice, no hatred, not the slightest ill intent that might give warning. They are only following orders." I think that the reason that Sidious/Palpatine wanted Luke by his side is for the same initial reason that he wanted Anakin: to control this very powerful person in the Force. Just like how Anakin was the perfect prize of the Jedi that he twisted around his finger as Sidious and Palpatine, so too did he want to do the same to Luke since he is the perfect prize of the Rebellion. To me, Sidious is someone who always wants control; he wants to be the ruler of the galaxy, to bend the Force to his will, to have all the power. He feels threatened by Luke's presence and seeks to control him, but if he can't then he will destroy him. Yay! You've finished it! I can't wait to the next review for comics and books.

1:33:15 Purely speculation, but it would have been interesting if Palpatine actually cared more about power, than himself. The strongest shall rule, and it happens to be Palpatine. However should someone more powerful, with no chains, come along, then that individual should rule (Anakin and Luke). It's plausible that Palpatine would be accepting his fate, if it meant turning Yoda to the Dark Side. Yoda and Palpatine are about on par, but the difference between these two is that the latter has no restrains. You don't have real power until you break free from your shackles.

I always enjoy your discussion on star wars, and watch them start to finish. I know you use the dark horse comics as reference in your versus videos, but I would be curious to hear your in depth analysis on some of the republic comics, particularly the stuff after the purge. please and thank you

I love the part with the hologram in the temple in the book so much. cause in the movie i consider that to be like the shining example of how poorly it was done. cause obiwan watches anakin murdering and is just like "Oh it can't be." like, he;s a tremendous actor but that scene falls so flat on its face. there's no punch to it, cause his reaction in the movie is so chill. jedi or no this would shatter most peoples worlds and he reacts to it in the movie like someone took the last piece of pizza before he could! and in the book its so much more resonant and powerful.

“Can you imagine being the guy who had to do the CGI for this with Yoda?” Well, it would have been better than whoever was on the CGI team for “The Last Jedi” that SOMEHOW came to the conclusion that the decision of animating an alien with fucking udders full of milk for Jake Skywalker (that is simply NOT Luke Skywalker in that movie, don’t even try to convince me that it is; you will fail) to spend a minute sucking on was worth the damn CGI money at all.

I'm surprised you didn't mention Jackson's quote "I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi." I just find that line very unneeded, and quite humorous to hear.

In the movie when bail witnesses the death of the padawan, and speeds away. As he takes off, one of the clones orders the others to let him go. The line I believe is “Don’t worry about it, let him go” but you can’t hear the line very well because of the noise of the speeder plus the musical score being slightly overpowering. It’s almost a muffled line. As a kid I was confused as to why they would let him live and escape.

You, EvanNova, GreyJedi, Antoine and Jensaarai will always be one of my top favorite Star Wars channels on youtube! I can't for more Versus Series and Trivia from you guys in 2019! Some Versus Ideas (for the Future): The Skywalker Brawl: Cade Skywalker vs Luke Skywalker (Legends) Vs Anakin Skywalker (Episode 3) Battle of the Beards: Kyle Katarn vs Obi-wan Kenobi The Sage and The Pragmatist: Yoda vs Darth Traya The Torgutan and the Cybrog: Shaak Ti vs Lumiya The Twi'lek Confrontation: Aayla Secura vs Darth Talon There Can be Only One Sith Ruler: Darth Sidious vs Darth Krayt The Predator and the Sadist: Asajj Ventress vs Sora Bulq The Wounds and The Exiles: Meetra Surik and Darth Revan vs Darth Nihilus vs Darth Sion May not be interesting, but these are the ones that I thought would be fun. Farewell and may the force be with you.

Watching the state of the world fall apart over the course of a story is one of my favorite things.

@Fanalysis hey guys I'm a big fan but i was wondering two things one is for callan why didn't you do the jedi baby line that would have been awesome lmao. The second thing is for greyjedi do you think the anakin vs obi being portrayed as equal as a deficit to the fight, second should it have been slanted towards anakin due to his severe force advantage or obi wan due to his extreme defense physical endurance and his toughness. But overall you guys did an amazing job and when is the dark rendezvous review coming up.

Random Jedi A: "Oh no Drallig and Ti are down, we are surrounded, is there nothing we can do ?" Random Jedi B: "Well technically there is one powerful person left and we have nothing to loose." Unleashes Kar Vastor Kar: "What ? We some kinda... Suicide Squad ?" Unlike Mace vs Anakin there are a bunch of reasons why this fight would not fit, but it could still make for a fun, pulpy short story. I think part of Stovers weird tonal changes is that he has a natural tendency towards more dark and serious stories like Shatterpoint or NJO Traitor, but the Star Wars books he grew up with and appreciates the most are the more pulpy pre-Zahn stories, which Luke Skywalker and the Shadow of Mindor was supposed to be a love letter to. The moment where Anakin goes to Mace is probably my favorite improvement over a scene in the movie. Also I agree with the point that various members of the Council Forcecast have made that Vapaad can not necessarily work with someone who uses the dark side in a cold Dooku-like manner so it would not necessarily allow Mace to match any sith, although in practice I can not think of a detached sith strong enough that Windu could not match him.

Awesome end to one of my favorites. Looking forward to your next Star Wars review! Keep up the awesome work!

I love Boga and varactyls in general

I cant help but wonder if the Legends Star Wars Expanded universe would be as good if it were not for the existence of the prequels as they are. While they are certainly bad in so many ways there are so many interesting an unique concepts that they have allowed for such a rich expanded universe to exist and thrive under creators who were talented enough to efficiantly execute Lucas's mad, stupid and occasionally genius ideas. Would the EU be just as rich and vibrant if Lucas wasnt really involved? Possible but I am not sure. Despite all their flaws I am glad they exist if it meant the existence of some of the content of this EU aswell. What do you guys think? Waa it worth having 3 bad movies in exchange for so much good relating content?

Gray Jedi you need to do that Q/A you promised us like a year ago!

Hey so i noticed the new qui-gon and obi-wan is being written by claudia grey. Writter of 3 of IMO the best novels of new canon. I know you all have expressed your thoughts on the idea of them redoing eu stories, however i think if claudia grey is behind it i trust her. At this point i view the whole disney canon vs eu in the same way i viewed ultimate marvel and regular marvel. While i truly love the eu i just cant seem to find myself Influnced by it when i view new canon. Although i do think disney should start makeing more eu material so characters we loved can continue thiere stories. I mean they already labeled it legends just slap that in front of any eu story and people wont be confused between the diffrent canons. Star wars has allways had multiple layer s of cannon i don't see why we cant have that again

shoot im probably gonna comment alot XD talking about order 66, i always thought it'd have been easier to buy if the clones were portrayed more like they were in the microseries. like if every clone division had a squad of those dudes? yeah i could buy these like spec ops clones are a match for a jedi. with the element of surprise and okay idk if this is ever gone into, but that had to be like a secret training regiment right? Like this is how you fight a jedi? Oh well regardless that'd have been easier to swallow cause in the movies, and especially in tcw, the clones are rather meh. it seems they're pretty matched with the droids where a clone should be worth like a hundred droids. like they should be, so far a step above an average soldier like by miles.

Did Yoda sense the attack of the clones-or was he more of a benefactor of knowing Palpatine was the Sith Lord. If possible-all the Jedi should have been communicated with about this knowledge-as a form of insurance against the potential failure of Mace Windu’s group against Palpatine.

As for Dooku being a “public” Sith Lord, I don’t think he has ever claimed that title to the galaxy at large. To the galaxy isn’t that more of a title the Jedi used to describe him.

So Jen wants Anakin to be Jacen Solo.

I'm attached to Saesee Tiin, and it hurt my heart that I'm alone 😢

Do you guys still hold ROTS Anakin as a tier 3? I’m curious, because it sounds from your discussion that you consider him at least as good as ROTS Kenobi (who you consider a tier 2), probably even superior. And we saw him dominate Dooku earlier on (you consider a tier 1.5). It just doesn’t fly for me that ROTS Anakin is a tier 3, and I’m curious if that’s still your opinion?

Wait, why was R2 not memory wiped?

I want to see you guys talk about a star wars comic series, will it happen?

1:04:00 One scene I really do like is Yoda's reaction. Just that incredulous and broken expression as he feels all of his beloved jedi being killed. I still really feel bad whenever I watch it. I was never Yoda's biggest fan, I felt he came across as entitled and obnoxious in the OT but I like him far more in the prequels and this scene is where I fell in love with him.

probably a good call that "from my point of view the jedi are evil" was left out

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45:13 This. THIS. The Prequels do not feel as a tragedy, because Anakin's fall is due to sheer stupidity over a selfish goal, especially since his marriage with Padme isn't a healthy, stable one. It also bothers me that the Clone Wars conflict didn't seem to affect Anakin that much in any significant degree. The CW should have been tipped in favor of the Separatists, with the Republic on brink of losing, forcing Anakin to tap into the Dark Side (Palpatine shouldn't have controlled the Separatists).

Yoo why did y'all stap ?

The Jedi do not .. believe .. in, .. Luck. On the other hand, there is Obi-Wan trust in the Force.

I agree, Mace's reaction to Sidious flailing about would've been hilarious. I think Anakin had an issue with killing the CIS council because they were more defenseless compared to lightsaber wielding Jedi. 59:54 Was literally playing Spider-Man PS4 when I heard that. The film has a Clone tell the others to let Bail go. Anakin slaughtering the CIS council is one of the scenes where the movie does it better at least over the book. He should be more enthusiastic to kill them however I prefer his quiet persona in the film over the portrayal of him in the novel during his rampage. His lines in the ROTS video game are less worse. I could see Quinlan Vos or a dark side Kit Fisto making such jokes or puns though. 1:22:24 Imaging Jedi spirits in heaven watching Yoda and Obi-Wan and Matt's impression of Kenobi gave me a good laugh. The original scene of Obi-Wan and Yoda fighting clones were them going up to a group of disguised troopers in Jedi robes. Obi-Wan had his hood on for stealth. This made it in the Lego Star Wars game. The original scene is here at 2:05: www.dailymotion.com/video/xs4dmx Sidious making people repeat what he says brings up so many funny images. A scene in the book I love is how Obi-Wan and Yoda give each other the go signal to confront the Sith they're facing. It's a great moment when Yoda goes in thinking that his almost 900 years of life have led up to this. I also like the original animatics of Yoda VS Sidious. Even in the ROTS Yoda has his lightsaber when getting into the speeder. I agree with Connor. I have the book where it shows Yoda's saber stored away and like the idea that he never had a need to use it. Yeah I agree on Mace VS Anakin being a thing. Antoine's idea is pretty good. On what Matt said the original animatics had Anakin using lava. The "Forever" variation of how it feels to be Anakin is one of the best moments for the book.

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Also im here for my obligatory pitch for you guys to read Lost Stars😉

Anakin didn't get a mercy killing because only a Sith deals in absolutes.