Retro vs Modern BMX Race Bike

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Clint Gibbs

Clint Gibbs

Күн бұрын

This video shows a retro versus modern BMX race bike using the Hutch from the 80s and a new Chase Element.

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@TexasTimelapse
@TexasTimelapse 6 жыл бұрын
I still have scars on my shins from those Hutch Bear Claw petals!
@kerrypence4201
@kerrypence4201 5 жыл бұрын
TexasTimelapse I think I have permanent grooves in my shin bones… Used to get KKT pedals circa 1979 and take a file to them to make them look like what could only be described as a sharks mouth! Ruined many a 501 Pant leg and donated a lot of blood to the earth back in those days! Back when kids were real kids and Gorrie injuries were just part of having fun.
@Dialysisforever
@Dialysisforever 4 жыл бұрын
I have a scar from a double layer of stitches I needed to sew me back together. I landed on the right pedal but missed the left. My Mom almost passed out when I showed her. Good times.
@Mike-pj1kv
@Mike-pj1kv 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting to compare. I got into BMX in 1975 just when it was all evolving. I recently bought a 24 inch red line bmx bike.
@rapidride2
@rapidride2 5 жыл бұрын
AHH Hutch. Well known for their beautiful chrome finish ,super light weight, strong frames and exotic components, and best of all USA made. In their heyday they WERE the BMX to have or lust for. Anyone in the know lusted after a Pro-Racer, Pro-Star or maybe even a Trick-Star if free-styling.
@rob4433
@rob4433 4 жыл бұрын
Or the Hollywood Mike Miranda baby!!!!
@jamesgallagher1992
@jamesgallagher1992 4 жыл бұрын
Or even a pro raider🤙🤙
@sspp3065
@sspp3065 2 жыл бұрын
Had 2 trick stars the blue and the red damn how i wish i still had them who would know the money they are worth right now also haro sport and master and lastly gt pro performer 2 of course not in that order or at the same time lol
@M3LTUP
@M3LTUP 5 жыл бұрын
Im 46. I still have my Robinson 20". I built the bike up from scratch in 82. It has Hutch bear trap pedals. Those pedals are probably illegal now a days. I still ride it.
@daem3n
@daem3n 4 жыл бұрын
DYNAMO ME bear trap pedal was the jam back in the days!
@arthurgroncki8993
@arthurgroncki8993 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 43 and I still have scars on my shin from bear traps!
@russellnewcomb8542
@russellnewcomb8542 3 жыл бұрын
Those peddles are not illegal now but they are worth a ton of money.
@daveyboy8907
@daveyboy8907 6 жыл бұрын
I am a 80s bmx guy and this video is awesome...I still like the tall seat stem..
@colintorrington3817
@colintorrington3817 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta sit down some time better like that than have your knees up around your ears
@MrJimmyc82
@MrJimmyc82 4 жыл бұрын
100%
@alvafelix4539
@alvafelix4539 3 жыл бұрын
80s bikes were cool
@pauldefazio3480
@pauldefazio3480 Жыл бұрын
I'm 53 years old I owned a 1976 Redline MX 2 every time I see one of these videos I kick myself for trading it away bike is now worth several thousand dollars
@dannynelson7263
@dannynelson7263 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Richmond VA and John McNeill Factory Hutch racer and Justin Shepard Factory CW raced at our BMX Track.. Bmx Bike and Track ... I was in total shock the 1st time seeing their bikes and Uniforms...What a memory.....
@andylicht8017
@andylicht8017 6 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the random bmx content. Rock on!
@sherrigaskin5656
@sherrigaskin5656 4 жыл бұрын
I, too, was a Hutch Pro Racer guy. It was totally tricked. Hutch bars and neck but pedals and cranks were pricey. Redline flights and Suntour Bear Claws were on mine. Graphite Skyway mags with Comp III tires finished it up. Loved that bike. Cant believe what they go for now. Big bucks. Oh, and a Zeronine plate and Oakley B1B grips.
@thechaosengine3020
@thechaosengine3020 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Clint. I haven't ridden a BMX since the early 90s so it was nice to see how they have changed in that time. Me and my friends used to do 30 mile rides regularly, so we were glad for the longer seat tubes and posts. lol
@mikeflohr4043
@mikeflohr4043 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video...made me remember my Race Inc. frame, TRX Forks, Cook Brothers hubs,ACS Z-Rims, snake belly tires, Haro frt # plate, 2- Finger brake levers, Ouri grips, GT stem and H.bars . Front rim red with blue hub, rear rim blue with red hub, blue frame and seat with lots gold anodized parts. Wish I still had it. Thanks for the trip down memory lane ❤
@camwithacamvlogs5580
@camwithacamvlogs5580 6 жыл бұрын
Love ❤️ the look of retro bmx I personally run a bar pad and a high seat it's just so comfortable
@kerrypence4201
@kerrypence4201 5 жыл бұрын
Great video… I’m 54 and started racing in 1977. Im from the central valley of California and I started racing on a redline square back with all Ashtabula (can’t remember if that’s the right spelling… I’m old) parts. That Puppy weighed in at a little over 40 lbs! Had a friend that had a Yamaha Moto bike with Moto mags and it weighed over 60 pounds!!! When you were jumping spikes and land hard it felt like you were going to move the earth! My first real racing bike was a cooks brothers and it weighed in the mid-20s and all chrome Molly with an aluminum crankset out of a 10 speed. Stopped racing in 82 and have missed it ever since. Last year went out and bought a red line 24 inch cruiser and I’m slowly getting back into it. I have a friend from back in the day that I recently saw for the first time in years and he’s trying to get me to buy a downhill bike and go to the ski resorts during summer and ride. Sounds like a Tonna fun but those bikes are damn expensive! Might have to pry open my wallet and get one. Anyway glad to see your kid is racing BMX it’s an awesome sport and makes for great childhood memories.
@hamjohn8737
@hamjohn8737 3 жыл бұрын
Ah....you shoulda gone 26", way more versatile if you aren't going to race.....just my opinion, tell me to take a hike, I won't mind.
@kazanali5396
@kazanali5396 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly I stumbled upon this video by accident and enjoyed it, thank you for the video.
@lastfirst2126
@lastfirst2126 5 жыл бұрын
I started with a Robinson , ended with a Schwin xs pro , fredzi bars , profile cranks and GT platform pedals. I loved that bike.
@tonyaccardo3052
@tonyaccardo3052 5 жыл бұрын
wow brings back memories I had a hutch pro racer back in 83 great video 😎
@jrhawk
@jrhawk 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks... Love the old school Pk Ripper!
@stefanherzberg1630
@stefanherzberg1630 2 жыл бұрын
Great! I'm 51 and wish I still had my Robinson race bike.
@84sneaky
@84sneaky 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect mate! Just like ur self im an old skool bmx'er and now find my son needs a bmx to get into racing and I have NO idea what to look for! Well until I found this video! Now need to find out about diff brands and bikes out there. E.g. DK vs Element vs etc etc.. Cheers.
@diskreteone1967
@diskreteone1967 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother, I just bought an old bmx that I thought was an old looptail mongoose but now watching your video I think it's a hutch! Appreciate it
@barrygiddey9139
@barrygiddey9139 Жыл бұрын
Great video-Thanks for making it!
@paulblo9078
@paulblo9078 6 жыл бұрын
i like both old and new school bikes
@sstressfl
@sstressfl 6 жыл бұрын
I had a Hutch Pro Racer. You made my day :) Great video. Interesting to see how the sport has changed.
@teenoltae
@teenoltae 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Byrne - I'm in the Hutch Pro Racer club too - Clint should get some Hutch Bear Trap pedals and Redline flight cranks - Hurts me to see it looking so unloved.
@kerrypence4201
@kerrypence4201 6 жыл бұрын
That is a nice hutch.. probably worth three times what the new bike is. It’s amazing what collectors pay for these now. I raced in the late 70s and early 80s I have an old redline squareback and one of the original torqer bikes with graphite tuff wheels...Love my old bikes
@Cinnabuns2009
@Cinnabuns2009 6 жыл бұрын
I cut my teeth on a metallic blue Mongoose Motomag 2 racing BMX back in the day and that Hutch brings back a lot of fond memories. Great bike then and still usable now. Maybe not competitive but technology has come so far this is a great video and I'm glad you posted it. Thanks!
@TimeisReel
@TimeisReel 3 жыл бұрын
Very Cool... I'm just getting into Vintage BMX Bikes. But now I want a New Style Bike, to add to the collection...
@JakeSpurlock
@JakeSpurlock 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing!
@mattdickey2454
@mattdickey2454 6 жыл бұрын
Nice Hutch! I had one and broke the frame. They honored the lifetime warranty too. I wish I had kept it. I love to watch your videos. I just bought the 2019 Giant Fathom 1 bc of your videos.
@metalheadedone
@metalheadedone 3 жыл бұрын
I'm another old-schooler (soon to be 49 yrs old)...had a Haro Master and a Redline Prostyler RL-20 BITD. Just recently acquired a '94 Haro Group 1 and have been tinkering with it. I appreciate how BMX has evolved and the new bikes are great...but I will choose the 80s bikes all day long.
@adamharris2674
@adamharris2674 3 жыл бұрын
I commend you for keeping up with that bike over the years and keeping it looking nice. I would give anything to have my 1990 Haro Master back again. I gave it to my cousin in the late 90s and it got stolen out of his yard.
@erwinrommelcapagcuan-qb3cp
@erwinrommelcapagcuan-qb3cp 11 ай бұрын
Good comparison... I'm a BMX rider in the 80's too.
@mikemoore5168
@mikemoore5168 6 жыл бұрын
Cool vid Clint. I still have my 1980's GT that I custom built with my dad. I have a Uni seat and the Hutch Bear Trap pedals of note.
@yusfazleyyusoff9244
@yusfazleyyusoff9244 4 жыл бұрын
Old is gold.... nice bike!
@robprzy
@robprzy 4 жыл бұрын
That hutch brings back memories!
@snowrider4495
@snowrider4495 5 жыл бұрын
the old hutch! that makes me feel old!
@miked9466
@miked9466 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid, keep up the good work.
@Dialysisforever
@Dialysisforever 4 жыл бұрын
I miss my JMC but I don't miss my bear trap pedals and two layers of stitches I needed when the pedal hit me just below the knee cap. Thanks for the video.
@ClintGibbs
@ClintGibbs 4 жыл бұрын
Those things were lethal.
@clifffield1
@clifffield1 4 жыл бұрын
Those quill stems still give me the sh*ts. Had one come out on me off a drop-off at a race meeting back in the day. The angled nut was made of some nasty cast metal and it split in two, resulting in the bars coming out in my hands as I pulled up. Fun times. Cheers for the video.
@trevorsowers
@trevorsowers 6 жыл бұрын
Love it. Great video
@terryellis333
@terryellis333 6 жыл бұрын
Haha! Kewl video man!! 1982 huh? That's exactly when I was into BMX. Right when E.T: was popular! Dang I sure wish I still had my old Redline bike :(. It got stolen long ago.
@jordanwurz1024
@jordanwurz1024 5 жыл бұрын
Cool bikes!!
@MrJack-yx6nm
@MrJack-yx6nm 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video, that was really cool comparison. As a BMX Racer I enjoyed having a look at where we came from. I actually also race a Chase Element but an older model and I consider getting the model you showed in this video. A review of the Element after some usage would be helpful ;)
@equinox2345
@equinox2345 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Clint, stay safe during Irma if it does hit, I'm in Tallahassee myself. my prayers go out to your family and others that are affected by the storm.
@ClintGibbs
@ClintGibbs 6 жыл бұрын
+Equinox thank you
@MrDoomey375
@MrDoomey375 6 жыл бұрын
really enjoyed the vid!!
@WspdVideo
@WspdVideo 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid!! My apologies if this is mentioned further down in the comments..Old School bmx rider (1st Gen Mongoose/Skyway TA) The Redline 401 Flights were splined cranks. I dropped the money on those after going through multiple 3 piece cranks with the square taper. They just seemed to round out quickly
@wrektum
@wrektum 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. My first BMX was a Mongoose and my son has a Redline. Big differences
@pekinbikeguy
@pekinbikeguy 3 жыл бұрын
I used to run chain tensioners on my panda pro-am and gt back in the early to mid 80s
@JMLockpicking
@JMLockpicking 4 жыл бұрын
Cool video...
@karlfonner7589
@karlfonner7589 6 жыл бұрын
Brings back memories
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam 2 жыл бұрын
Hutch was my second favorite. I raced a skyway, redline cranks, hutch bear traps, bullseye hubs, 1 3/8” araya rims, Comp 3 tires, UNI seat, tuff neck pro neck stem, cheesy headset (I don’t think there were Chris king headsets back then), VDC monkey bars, Oakley grips, zero9 factory plate
@Sergio-xb2zc
@Sergio-xb2zc 6 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video
@owenpreece4508
@owenpreece4508 6 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video at the bmx track with your son riding and you
@ClintGibbs
@ClintGibbs 6 жыл бұрын
+Owen Preece sure
@mattportnoyTLV
@mattportnoyTLV 3 жыл бұрын
LOL when I showed my kids the bikes we rode in the 80’s, their response was “Those look stupid. Why couldn’t people tell back then that those look stupid?” FWIW I rode a General RL Osborne bike.
@xDEVILDOGx
@xDEVILDOGx 4 жыл бұрын
Cool vid. Thanks
@greengreen4476
@greengreen4476 6 жыл бұрын
I never found 3piece cranks that held up to the jumps we did in the 80's. V-bars were like adding 10hp lol. Rode a Redline.
@trapptours6679
@trapptours6679 4 жыл бұрын
Those Hutche Bear Trapp pedals from memory were very hungry 😯
@DanielSvids
@DanielSvids 6 жыл бұрын
Your's is cool. I also had a BMX in the 90's but it feel apart. Miss that though.
@Elhamburitto
@Elhamburitto 3 жыл бұрын
Idk about your BMX bike but the side pull brakes on my 94 gt Dyno vfr work like a dream
@Motorsportsinjapan
@Motorsportsinjapan 4 жыл бұрын
Cool comparison, love the old Hutch my brother still has his from BITD. Interestingly from a riding perspective the modern bikes are not better, just different. The most important thing is to find is a frame size that suits you. I have just started racing again after 35 years off and tried using my modern race bike i've had for several years and it just wasn't any good for me, I switched to my old 1980's bike and right away was faster and jumping further and cleaner, this is after not riding an old school at all literally since the 80's, showing that in my case at least, the super long modern frames are just no good (at least on the old school type tracks here). Standing up pedaling the low top tubes and seat tubes on the modern bikes make no difference at all to rider area and personally I don't like the really low handle bar height. The couple of lbs weight difference is negated with running new school type rims and modern light weight tires. But I absolutely agree about the brakes, while mine stops ok with modern pads on it, the caliper flex is insane haha
@wnerko7484
@wnerko7484 4 жыл бұрын
the stem neck in the 80s sat perfectly for riding.the new bikes handle bars sit way to low.pretty much no stem.they just sit on top of the frame pretty much
@TheSasquatchNation
@TheSasquatchNation Жыл бұрын
I just bought a CHASE RSP 5.0 🤟🤟🤙🤙 I do miss my GT, DYNO and Diamondback though. Good on ya for keeping the HUTCH
@DayRider76
@DayRider76 4 жыл бұрын
.When my kids were BMXing, all of the parents wanted me to race to? So there I was, in my late 30's, racing a vintage Dyno GT. I won a few races, but mostly was at the back making sure the race went well?
@robprzy
@robprzy 4 жыл бұрын
Redline Flite cranks were pinch bolt too back in the day :-)
@losidude05
@losidude05 3 жыл бұрын
Dang, that Chase cost a lot more too!!! I spent less on two bikes for my son (20” and 24”cruiser) but the Chase I believe is the best!!!
@neoskater420
@neoskater420 6 жыл бұрын
Clint I ride mountains here in Arizona but I also have a bmx bike for dirt jumps/street that i just got into around October last year after watching Scotty Cranmer bmx videos. Good job on the upload to see the differences between new and old school bikes.
@SchnazzyVideo
@SchnazzyVideo 5 жыл бұрын
Chain tensioners did exist in the 80's. They didn't exist as a product as far as I know until the 90's. I wanted my chain to be the perfect tention (not too sloppy, and not tight which created drag/friction) so I figured I'd create something to keep the bolt from sliding forward. I ended up going to the hardware store and got some flat eye bolts and part from an anchor bolt setup. I assume others did the same but in 1985 nobody at the tracks I raced did it. Also clipless or any other pedals where you foot would attach were illegal in teh 80's and 90's to a certain point. I wasn't racing anymore when they made them legal and stopped requiring the bar pads. I have a new 2019 GT speed series and the rear dropout is completely different than other bikes and it has disk brakes. I don't race but do pump tracks for fun. Nice video.
@matthewabt9348
@matthewabt9348 6 жыл бұрын
that hutch is beautiful dude
@medievalknievel
@medievalknievel 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget That hutch two and one was an awesome spacer
@radscar7619
@radscar7619 2 жыл бұрын
I believe those are called caliper brakes on the old BMX bikes. They never used cantilevers, those were popular on Mt. bikes years ago. They had the cable between the two arms and a hook that came from the brake lever that squeezed the arms together. Not sure how much they're used now.
@JamesWilliams-kt5qr
@JamesWilliams-kt5qr 4 жыл бұрын
BMX used 48 spline 3 piece cranks from the early eighties no one used square taper bottom brackets in the full size classes. Far superior to anything you could find on a MTB up until the Hollow tech cranks came out. The best part about those original profile cranks is that if you owned a set from the eighties and broke them today they would still be warrantied no questions asked. I've seen it first hand. And canti-mounts showed up on BMX bikes in the early to mid '90s. I remember the first time seeing them was on a Balance cruiser. I had, actually still have, a carbon Mongoose SL from 1996 with carbon Nuke proof hubs. In that era aluminum and magnesium forks were starting to show up then in the early 2000's carbon forks were introduced Answer Scythe and Bombshell F1.
@Yzftube1
@Yzftube1 6 жыл бұрын
I'm 46, and I ride both BMX and mountain bike. I think they compliment one another. Also, when that gate drops, BMX is such an adrenaline rush.
@kerrypence4201
@kerrypence4201 5 жыл бұрын
Ian Smith Riders ready… Watch the gate…..CLANG!! Man I miss that!
@ElizabethRodriguez-ws3ys
@ElizabethRodriguez-ws3ys 6 жыл бұрын
Cool vid
@CRXPhil
@CRXPhil 4 жыл бұрын
Retro for the win. I still have my '93 Robinson Pro since it was new.
@TheCaptainsCog
@TheCaptainsCog 3 жыл бұрын
Bullseye! They're shop was in the city I grew up. Burbank, CA.
@alanr4263
@alanr4263 6 жыл бұрын
Really neat I raced a hutch pro racer maybe 85.b.m.x Shorham N.Y. Bear trap pedels
@chrisames9851
@chrisames9851 4 жыл бұрын
That's a Bullseye BB on the Hutch. I had one on my old PK (and now it's in a bin).
@hamjohn8737
@hamjohn8737 3 жыл бұрын
HATED that Bullseye BB.....so much trouble...
@TheSilvercue
@TheSilvercue 6 жыл бұрын
Just a couple of years later Hutch were making some awesome BMX hardware
@mrpuh777
@mrpuh777 5 жыл бұрын
Old School BMX rules!
@jamesb1717
@jamesb1717 6 жыл бұрын
Good video. I wanted a BMX but ended up with a Grifter XL instead! Cool bike too.
@jamesgallagher1992
@jamesgallagher1992 4 жыл бұрын
🤭🙄🤣🤙🤙🤙
@jamesgallagher1992
@jamesgallagher1992 4 жыл бұрын
A real monster those grifters with the gears...weighed a ton but indestructible🤣🤣🤙
@danyoung8707
@danyoung8707 6 жыл бұрын
Clint bmx is awesome. I dream about that hutch. You should be riding that bike. Take ie to a pumptrack.
@davidwessel3065
@davidwessel3065 5 жыл бұрын
Love it
@chrisdills5072
@chrisdills5072 3 жыл бұрын
that Hutch is priceless
@tonys623
@tonys623 6 жыл бұрын
Rad!
@joeyeyeglasses9970
@joeyeyeglasses9970 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a 80s baby all I remember is dyno gt now my son is bmx racing hes been using a loaner & hes doing really good I'm looking at the chase bikes the 2021 hasnt came out yet hea needs a 21.5 inch
@brianjoachim7044
@brianjoachim7044 5 жыл бұрын
I like your hutch BMX
@mwhitelaw8569
@mwhitelaw8569 5 жыл бұрын
Hutch was a good bike back then I used a few different frames Race inc. SE But that was the late 80's
@kerrypence4201
@kerrypence4201 5 жыл бұрын
M Whitelaw ahhh..Race Inc. and FMF… Can’t tell you how many of those frames came apart at the fork tube while I was in the air! I loved how light they were but this was before they figured out you had to heat treat the whole frame after you weld it to relieve stress. Had some of my gnarliest crashes on those bikes! Now that I’m older every time the weather changes I remember these crashes fondly and with a little pain 🤣
@rcalems
@rcalems 6 жыл бұрын
I like the variety of topics on your channel. Now you need to do a comparison of how Mountain Bikes have changed since the early days of "mountain biking". The 1990's, etc, I have a 1995?? Giant Acapulco "MB". No suspension at all.
@rolandorich4014
@rolandorich4014 4 жыл бұрын
I want that hutch haha
@jacksinsel8798
@jacksinsel8798 4 жыл бұрын
There's a big difference with these two bikes This father loves his son. Good father! That Chase element is a very expensive bike. With the comparison. The Hutch I am assuming in the early 80's about a$100 to $150 bike give or take. That Chase Element is like a $1000 bike if I am not mistaken. Nice video. I do like seeing the improvement of todays bikes.
@skyb8687
@skyb8687 4 жыл бұрын
Riders ready,on the gate ,watch the light. Raced all through the 90s
@alfie_tabs5948
@alfie_tabs5948 6 жыл бұрын
Vote 1982 BMX 2017 BMX
@colintorrington3817
@colintorrington3817 4 жыл бұрын
Ligma Bowls 1982 4ever
@mikemontgomery8407
@mikemontgomery8407 4 жыл бұрын
The hutch all day
@bipolarkracker5501
@bipolarkracker5501 4 жыл бұрын
Old school all day.
@bmxbeyond4078
@bmxbeyond4078 5 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you'd talk about the geometry
@00benlee
@00benlee 4 жыл бұрын
I used a powerlite back in the day.
@brannonmcclure6970
@brannonmcclure6970 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@patrickpmd84
@patrickpmd84 5 жыл бұрын
I had that same Hutch
@edhaspadura9795
@edhaspadura9795 4 жыл бұрын
I miss my Hutch Pro racer like that I hate having to switch to New School stuff to be competitive. But I do trust the new Fork stem setups better than the quill.
@John_D2
@John_D2 6 жыл бұрын
pimp that thing out with profile racing hubs , the are built in FL. aj's in valrico sells everything that profile makes.
@loveswidescreen
@loveswidescreen Жыл бұрын
Besides all the differences between the two, one of the biggest is the materials. The Hutch is a Chromoly frame and looks like the Element is aluminum. Chromoly flexes a bit and rides way differently than the stiffer aluminum frame. Now that they make the Carbon frames, they don’t flex at all. Really different ride.
@tidds2395
@tidds2395 6 жыл бұрын
Okay. So I have a haro downtown bike. Could I turn a street bike into a starter racing bike???
@andypandy-ys3xy
@andypandy-ys3xy 4 жыл бұрын
The Hutch is worth a lot more...
@super_retro8465
@super_retro8465 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 1978 Huffy ThunderRoad and its a bike that was built to last and its faster then i thought it could be
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