Helios 44-2 lens. Ultimate buying guide.

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Retro Foto House

Retro Foto House

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All 8 versions of famous helios 44-2 lens. Comparative review with test shoots. With particularities explained in details. The most exhaustive review on youtube. Im professional lens seller/repairer. For tested, lubricated and cleaned vintage foto equipment please visit my eBay stores at:
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00:00 - Intro
00:34 - Photo Samples
01:02 - Production history
02:28 - Features explained
04:41 - type 1 KMZ made
06:22 - type 2 Belomo Zebra
07:48 - type 3 Belomo varnished
08:32 - type 4 Belomo glossy
09:27 - type 5 Belomo ordinary
10:47 - type 6 Belomo new body
12:13 - type 7 & type 8 Valdai made
15:02 - what lens is worth to buy?
16:02 - lenses test: one by one
17:40 - test charts

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@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
type 1 in mint condition: www.ebay.com/itm/226221748460 type 1 in good working condition: www.ebay.com/itm/326183853541
@stevestrasser6833
@stevestrasser6833 4 жыл бұрын
Best review! I have the type 5. Unfortunately with a few scratches and wobble. Is there a way to get rid of the wobble in the rear element?
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevestrasser6833 it is almost impossible, unfortunately...
@Ni5ei
@Ni5ei Жыл бұрын
​@@RetroFotoHouse So how is it connected? Aren't there any screws you can tighten so the free play disappears?
@jimgiraffe5253
@jimgiraffe5253 9 ай бұрын
i just bought one of these but i have what looks like a tyype 5 but made in kmz factory in 74
@damiansciberras
@damiansciberras 3 ай бұрын
About 4 years ago I watched this video to decide which Helios to buy. From your recommendation, I got a Belomo made 44-2 in very good condition on ebay for £55. A couple of years later I used it to make my first short film, which went on to win a six awards at some small film festivals. Two years later I am working on my 3rd and 4th short film and still use the Helios as one of my go to lenses, along with a set of Canon FD SSC's! Thanks for your advice, it was extremely valuable!
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 3 ай бұрын
i'm glad it helped!
@pk6221
@pk6221 3 жыл бұрын
Man, You make insane and so productive work for all looking for reliable buying tips, thanks !
@bristolfashion4421
@bristolfashion4421 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent walk-thru - lots of facts and examples, simply explained and well worth a watch, for anyone interested in the commonest Helios lenses. I have one of these and although it's nowhere near as unusual or interesting as the earlier Helios lenses, it's better than not having a Helios at all !
@jonjon1217
@jonjon1217 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for taking the time to produce this video. I greatly appreciate your efforts ✌
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@randytate
@randytate 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for walking through these lens variants. Very helpful.
@cr4957
@cr4957 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Initially I was confused by Belomo but I learned it's the same as MMZ (Minskiy Mechanichesckiy Zavod imeni S.I. Vavilova), founded in 1957 in 1971 became Belomo. I have type 5 (Belomo) and type 8 (Valdai) I confirm your assessment about the buil quality, still optical quality is good in both my lenses, zero chromatic aberration!
@rafaprim
@rafaprim 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the excellent video, it has been very helpful. Recently they gave me this lens and according to your video my lens corresponds to type 5, however the serial number is 74. It even comes with the guarantee sheet and instructions stamped with date of the year 1974. Thanks to your video I am going to buy an adapter and try to give this lens a new life. Thanks
@delukxy
@delukxy 4 жыл бұрын
Initially confused but for "modification" take it as "model" , "type", "version". or "example". A very in depth spec review of this popular lens. Thank you.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input! I will correct this in my next videos
@Albanez39
@Albanez39 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroFotoHouse I was going to say the same, "modification" is a bit confusing...makes you think of some "mod" or "hack" that allows for additional features (like your Mir-1V close focus "mod"). Model or version is more appropriate :)
@jeffdacey1255
@jeffdacey1255 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your effort in clarifying the various modifications. It seems I have a copy of the last type (8) from 1988 (31 years ago). Even though it is rated lowest in quality compared to the earlier modifications, it is still decent build quality and capable of taking good photographs. I challenge the lens manufacturers of today to build something inexpensive and durable enough to last and still be usable in 2050 (31 years from now).
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, i agree with you. Thank you for your intput!
@chrisfielder7701
@chrisfielder7701 3 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased a photosniper camera and it comes with a Helios 44-2 lens, awesome video, and thank you for some history on my Helios lens
@lsdustyrhodes
@lsdustyrhodes 4 жыл бұрын
Exceptional review. Very helpful for helping choose the correct version. Photos at end are also very good. Thank-you.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words!
@burrencrawler
@burrencrawler 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff, thanks so much! I am going to go through all 15 of my Helios 44's now. ...I wish there was a video showing the difference between the 44m and all those other different versions too.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
Video with helios 44m will come soon, please subscribe. Thank you
@PretendFriend
@PretendFriend 4 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT video! You are right, there are many Valdai ones on ebay. I see a Belomo ordinary one, I am about to buy! It says "Helios" in english, I think it looks cooler in cyrillic but that is the least of my priority haha. Thank you!
@Mart_402
@Mart_402 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting together this video, I couldn't find this much information anywhere else. Great job!
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Roch50
@Roch50 Жыл бұрын
Wow, amazing video, thank you so much for the clear explanations and visuals !
@1906aldo
@1906aldo 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I will finally adapt my fathers type 6. All my childhood photos were taken with it and zenit et. He taught me basics of photography on it.
@joncandyfliprecords
@joncandyfliprecords 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge! 🙏
@kngkunaat
@kngkunaat 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video, it really helps when searching for hours and hours.
@kevinharding1181
@kevinharding1181 4 жыл бұрын
Superb introduction. Thanks !
@ThePedalboardOrchestra
@ThePedalboardOrchestra 3 жыл бұрын
You are such an expert on vintage analog lenses, I appreciate all of your videos so much. I learned already so much. These videos are so great! Thank you very much! Such an amazing job!
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@Fre1maurer
@Fre1maurer 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, great video which brings some light into the wide variety of 44 lenses. I personally prefer Type 6, just because of the more modern look of the body. They fit modern camera bodies very good.
@libraproducciones
@libraproducciones 3 жыл бұрын
Could you please tell me the adapter you are using? Mine gets too fit and I can't use the focus ring properly :(
@Fre1maurer
@Fre1maurer 3 жыл бұрын
@@libraproducciones I have the following adapters in use and i have no issues with them: K&F Concept M42-FX II Copper K&F Concept M10115 M42-FX KIWI Fotos LMA-M42-FX I think the last one is not longer sold. At least its not longer for sale on Amazon.de
@daniel635biturbo
@daniel635biturbo 4 жыл бұрын
There really are al lot of different versions ! My version is a Zebra With the BeLOMO Logo and 0017241 Serial number. Thanks for the video, and also huge thanks for your other Helios 44 Lubrication guide, with that video I could easily restore mine !
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@orangrazz
@orangrazz 4 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing review, and an amazing channel. Thank you. I have subscribed and am looking forward to your new videos! Hope you can also have real-world tests per lens!
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your kind words!
@NyimaWongchuk
@NyimaWongchuk 4 ай бұрын
Extremely helpful! Thanks for making this video!
@0gravitydroneservices
@0gravitydroneservices 11 ай бұрын
A lot of work was put into this video! Subbed!
@rodolphenavarro4253
@rodolphenavarro4253 3 жыл бұрын
Une revue très complète et très détaillée .Good job very nice review.
@murtza.rehman
@murtza.rehman Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I figured out that I've just bought a type 8 valdai modification of this lens. However, got it for $20 and still beats too many expensive lenses for the magical bokeh. Got a fotga M42-EOSM adaptor and using it on my recently bought Canon EOSM. I've got a 18-55 STM IS Canon kit zoom lens which is a lot more expensive than the Helios 44-2 prime. 44-2 is a 58mm prime and on an aps-c sensor on EOS M gives 92mm so I can use it for Portrait photography at a cheaper starting price since 80mm and above lenses used in Portrait Photography are expensive anyways and I get a dreamy bokeh as well with this.
@TheSynthnut
@TheSynthnut Жыл бұрын
Excellent info! The 44-2 is one of those lenses that was so taken for granted back in its day and it's quirks not always appreciated. Now we have greater choice, those quirks are an asset. I have a KMZ version with white stop lettering, green DOF and yellow distance lettering. The serial number puzzles me though, it starts with 01. Pretty sure it came on a Zenit-E and was second-hand when I got it back in the 80's
@slartibartfast2649
@slartibartfast2649 Жыл бұрын
According to some sources, the KMZ lenses starting with 0 and 00 were higher quality samples reserved for people of importance and 000 indicated what was basically a pre-production sample. I have several of these lenses, and my 00 sample has by far the most strongly coloured coating. The aperture mechanism is especially smooth too.
@oanshirazi
@oanshirazi 10 ай бұрын
I just checked mine, it’s a KMZ in really good condition. The serial starts with 01 as well, and the quality of the image and much sharper and clear - unlike a few Valdai and BeLOMO i’ve used that had a washed out look
@kenmcdougall6106
@kenmcdougall6106 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your excellent video - I made notes the first time I watched it, and so I looked carefully online for the one I wanted - my type 5 Belomo lens arrived in the post today, from the Ukraine! I really appreciate your help
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
you're welcome!
@hotjazzbaby
@hotjazzbaby 3 жыл бұрын
@@amursiberia Yes export I think. My 1978 Belomo has yellow and green markings and “HELIOS” in cyrillic letters, no “Made in USSR” marking on the barrel.
@erfieee
@erfieee Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I bought a KMZ & Valdai 44-2 and my Valdai version is better than my KMZ. The KMZ version has a loose focus ring, aperture ring & the aperture lock, while the Valdai is solid and only has minimal play in the rear element.
@oanshirazi
@oanshirazi 10 ай бұрын
I remember I watched your video when I was thinking of buying one for myself. I used a few that I borrowed from my friends but they were Valdai & late BeLOMO versions. The vintage lens guy called me as he had only one piece in stock that just came in, I rushed to get it and I was lucky to get myself a pristine condition KMZ version!
@byLjunggren
@byLjunggren 9 ай бұрын
Great video ! I learned a lot about the different models.
@blutey
@blutey Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your guide. Digging out my old Helios 44-2 lenses from the drawer which I used back in the 1970s, reveals they both seem to be the type 1 KMZ version (from the logo). Although mine have some yellow lettering, not white, as yours do.
@wylnd
@wylnd 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice, my grandpa gave me his Zebra type from 72. I knew it felt special but 2%, that's another level :D
@AsteroidsFlight
@AsteroidsFlight 4 жыл бұрын
I just got it today for 30 bucks on Ebay 😅
@mitarristanovic2299
@mitarristanovic2299 2 жыл бұрын
yes and if it is m42(not m39 mount) and starting serial number 0,00,000 than speak another story
@crazygeorgelincoln
@crazygeorgelincoln 3 жыл бұрын
top tip with the symbols, once you know its obvious. with the added tactile scence. one of my serial numbers starts with a 0 ? glad i have nearly got the full set. you should feel the build quality of the lens bundled with the km camera, 1999/2000. great video, thanks.
@antonioestupinian2732
@antonioestupinian2732 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the analisis of the fantastic Helios!
@iskandartaib
@iskandartaib Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. Especially explaining about the different plants. I've been looking on ebay, now I know what to look for. Rather than "modification" I think "version" or "variation" would be a better word.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse Жыл бұрын
thank you for your input!
@alanbesedin
@alanbesedin 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, thanks for sharing!
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Alan! I love your videos as well!
@lazarkebic4869
@lazarkebic4869 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Tnx man this helps a lot!
@SteveSSBB
@SteveSSBB 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this.
@AlecEagon
@AlecEagon 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this!
@brenwest
@brenwest 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanation of Helios 44-2.. I am also a customer. I purchased a Helios with purple flare modicication.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@JohnDoe-lg2rg
@JohnDoe-lg2rg 4 жыл бұрын
great tutorial. Thanks a lot man !!
@Kurtcorp
@Kurtcorp 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video i got the one from 75 what a swirly bokeh beast and very sharp as well in the center
@stratopastor_uk
@stratopastor_uk 9 ай бұрын
Excellent video, really helpful, thank you.
@jozefgeusens44
@jozefgeusens44 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Thanks a lot.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@herlambangtanosefren2350
@herlambangtanosefren2350 Жыл бұрын
I have one Helios 44-2 58mm Thank for your review
@qnetx
@qnetx 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thank you!
@jgurtz
@jgurtz 2 жыл бұрын
Very useful video, thank you!
@MaximGuitarist
@MaximGuitarist 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Valdai rare 44-2 Helios. My helios have a little oil on the blades. Valdai rare 44-2 Helios have low contrast and have low colors it's good for a post processing color correction.
@JR-FilmmakerStudio
@JR-FilmmakerStudio Ай бұрын
Hello, I never comment on KZfaq and i just found this video and your account, as filmmaker well done, for you work and thank you for sharing it. I'm looking for working on vintage look and thank to you, I have downloaded your video to compare frame by frame each type of Helios. This will help me to find my next cinematic lens. I will look at your others videos and Ebay for found this, thank you for your work and hope you are safe with the war
@jaynemapp_photography
@jaynemapp_photography Ай бұрын
Very very helpful, thank you
@Garysworld
@Garysworld 4 жыл бұрын
Great work! Thank you for the info!
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gary!
@RangKlos
@RangKlos 4 жыл бұрын
extremely useful, thanks!
@brandonmrsh
@brandonmrsh 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the extensive video - Very informative and really enjoyed learning more about this glass. Thanks!
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and sharing! :)
@AdamTV
@AdamTV 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video. A similar one on the Helios 77m would be great if similar variants exist.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
Well, it is possible, but the problem that it is very difficult to gather all version at once. There are 4 i guess
@aliaksandrzmrocny1888
@aliaksandrzmrocny1888 5 ай бұрын
Apparently I have 89' kmz and my father's 76' mmz (BelOMO v5), was pretty interesting to compare to other models as well. Build quality it indeed superb and everything is working like a clockwork.
@timskinnercanada
@timskinnercanada 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting insights. Thanks for sharing these details. I understand now that I have two KMZ copies - but mine have green and yellow lettering. One has distance scale in feet the other in meters.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please show your copies? Because i never saw a green scale KMZ helios. Sometimes, it happens that a front ring is simply exchanged
@Mrstefaaaaaan
@Mrstefaaaaaan 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroFotoHouse I have several Helios and I have 2 models with KMZ logo and green/yellow marks, here are some pictures : drive.google.com/drive/folders/11Jp_JHysa0_plMdrNxFFdLT9JX9t76We?usp=sharing
@timskinnercanada
@timskinnercanada 4 жыл бұрын
Retro Foto House Sure thing. Here’s a link. => drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-xBVMB2V_YOVhZB-EOSA1bfVc3eytfH0
@peggyclinton1
@peggyclinton1 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🏻
@peggyclinton1
@peggyclinton1 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing 🙏🏻🙏🏻😊
@Albanez39
@Albanez39 4 жыл бұрын
If I may give a few suggestions (for future videos): **It'd be great if you explained some less common mounts and how their adapters work.** For example, the Contax/Kiev mount for cine cameras...lenses that don't have a focusing helicoid (if I'm not mistaken) and the helicoid is built into the film camera (or adapter). **Perhaps explain the differences between the Mir-1 and Mir-1V (1B),** and which of them can be adapted; same for many other lenses that have various models depending on the mount. **You could make a video (or video series) talking about the history of Soviet lenses** and comparing them with their Zeiss counterparts. Talk about **glass coating** in Soviet lenses, and about the **radioactive Thorium lenses** people are so worried about...while they are harmless. **And obviously, we'd all appreciate more "mods" and "hacks"!** Either making lenses focus closer, or swapping elements to create more (or different) bokeh types (doughnut, bubble, swirly etc.); even building new DIY lenses from old elements and bodies. I suggest you check Mathieu Stern's Facebook group (Weird and Vintage Lenses Photographers), it's full of people that experiment with vintage lenses, disassemble them and mix them up. You could even promote your channel there!!! :D
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input, will definitely use some of your suggestions for future videos.
@modex81
@modex81 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive video!
@BizSustain
@BizSustain 2 жыл бұрын
A really fantastic resource for what is becoming a very popular vintage lens. Thank you!
@Kurtcorp
@Kurtcorp 3 жыл бұрын
Nice and very detailed video, thank you. so we can imagine that the 75 green and yellow is part of the 15% production witch is a good and recomended one like you said ? On the number 5 production the contrast is a lot less compaired to 1,2,3 those ones has very nice bokeh and contrast colors.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 3 жыл бұрын
If you can, get 1,2,3 but they quite rare to find
@EllieKennard
@EllieKennard 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I think I have the #5 one, with the long green settings. I love it. I want to give one the same as a special gift to a young photographer friend in Iran. Can you ship to Iran? I have asked the question on Ebay on my husband's account but thought you might get this quicker here! Cheers.
@chavellastephens537
@chavellastephens537 2 жыл бұрын
You saved me from making a grave mitake!!! Thank you soooooo much for this!
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful
@dfinlay587
@dfinlay587 2 ай бұрын
I recently acquired the Valdai (Type 7 from your video). It is silver, and has very little wobble in the mount and no oil. I believe it has been modified, as it has 16 blade aperture (not 8, not 13). So far it has performed as expected. Mostly used for portrait and macro work. Excellent video.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse Ай бұрын
yes, modified. Valdai never produced silver version. I think it was just polished.
@matt4p
@matt4p Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great info
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jj900
@jj900 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid!! Could you do one the different helios 58mm f2 lenses, comparing 44-2, 44-4, 44M etc etc
@zajkobeba6280
@zajkobeba6280 4 жыл бұрын
I can tell you all about them.
@canuckle7shucks
@canuckle7shucks 4 жыл бұрын
I have 1982 BeLOMO from Belarus, awesome.
@knoedlspezialist
@knoedlspezialist Жыл бұрын
Great Video, thank u so much!
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@matus547
@matus547 3 жыл бұрын
Great video ! :)
@EsaMononen
@EsaMononen 2 жыл бұрын
excellent review.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@vintagevantics
@vintagevantics 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic video. Were there any other KMZ versions of the 44-2? I have just picked up one from the KMZ plant with Green, Red and Orange writing from 1975 with the serial number on the front name band.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 5 ай бұрын
yes, this one is genuine one, at the moment of recording a video i was not aware about its existence.
@SQ9JJX
@SQ9JJX 2 жыл бұрын
11:11 This may cause problems when used in Pentax cameras with adapter. I used abrasive paper to fix it:) Just use screwdriver to remove this ring and grind it a little bit:)
@sednoid
@sednoid 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative video, even if I already knew some of this. I've had KMZ and Valdai versions and there's definitely a noticeable difference in build quality. The KMZ one I had was really nice.
@nickykodak7536
@nickykodak7536 Жыл бұрын
I had a Valdai and it had better quality build than my KMZ. More importantly, it took far finer images. It just goes to show that with old well-used lenses you cannot generalise "betterness" from just one lens.
@neurojitsu
@neurojitsu 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation and very practical insights, thanks. New sub. I'll be buying mine soon, so this is perfect!
@anulearntech
@anulearntech 3 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot, I guess all are basically the same lens formula, as the image quality and swirly bokeh quality seems very identical. they only differ in the build quality and aesthetics.
@GabrielFotografo35
@GabrielFotografo35 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this video. Awesome information! I bought a black zenit E with a helios44-2 type 7, has little grass on the plates, and a little free play on the rear, but the quality of the images is excellent. I use on a full frame nikon dslr. Some problems to focusing but unscrewing a few turns the rear elements I can focus on until infinite. I would like to ask you, Do all 8 variants has coated lenses? Thank you!
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse Жыл бұрын
no they don't. all these lenses are singlecoated
@craigzievis2074
@craigzievis2074 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another informative video! Is there any way to fix the wobble on the rear flange mount? My Helios suffers from this.....
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 11 ай бұрын
it is difficult without turning lathe machine, as inner tolerances were often not resected
@Norbury040780
@Norbury040780 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this is great, valuable information
@guidovanwambeke9328
@guidovanwambeke9328 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@drgold1999
@drgold1999 2 жыл бұрын
a legit great vid
@ellyrion8173
@ellyrion8173 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a useful video! I am currently torn between a Belomo Zebra 44-2 and a KMZ 1971 44-2 - both lenses are fully serviced, in great condition from a good seller and are very similarly priced. I'm looking to use either lens on my Fujifilm Mirrorless camera for still and video - which one do you reckon would be better? I'm just concerned about the freeplay on the KMZ version, the seller has confirmed it has a very small play of around 1/100th of a CM. Thanks you :)
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse Жыл бұрын
Pick up Belomo zebra and you will be happy
@reeve7929
@reeve7929 Жыл бұрын
I have two Helios 44-2 lenses, an MMZ with a serial of 83M, and a KMZ with a serial of 168K. The KMZ is by far much optically clearer with less haze and more contrast overall and sharpness than the MMZ, but the MMZ is still better than a Valdai which I'm very happy about
@zverispetras
@zverispetras Жыл бұрын
I have both versions too, and recently sold a late KMZ because I always preferred the look of the MMZ type 5 version, another difference was a slight yellowish color cast on the KMZ, the MMZ was "colder". I have a version 1 KMZ I just bought that I'm curious to test and compare with my MMZ.
@reeve7929
@reeve7929 Жыл бұрын
@@zverispetras I also find a yellowish/warm colour cast on my Helios lenses, and all my vintage Minolta MD lenses as well, but nothing that a slightly cooler temperature in post doesn't fix
@hackermis
@hackermis 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Very good and informative videos! I have a question though. I recently got a 44-2, it is from 1973, has the KMZ logo but green and yellow focus range markings and the "made is USSR" text istead of white like in your video. Also the glass has a blue/violet coating. Any ideas on what I've found?
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Difficult to say for sure, but there are 2 options: either it is kmz version that i ignore existence(low chances) or front ring with kmz sign was just changed by someone for unknown reasons
@hackermis
@hackermis 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroFotoHouse I took pictures of it here: imgur.com/a/knPHwW0 Looks to be real KMZ glass with the blue coating. maybe focus ring has been changed?
@puertoboboche
@puertoboboche 3 жыл бұрын
@@hackermis I also have 2 of those, one that starts with 73 and the other one with 75 . Also the distance is in feet only. I think that they were exports.
@JonBear
@JonBear 4 жыл бұрын
-I believe I have type 5. But the aperture ring is stuck at f2. I feel I'd break the lens if I forced the ring. Any advice?- edit: I watched further and realized I had the type 8 Valdai with green markings. Guess I got ripped off. Thank you so much for this insightful video
@vladimirlenin4080
@vladimirlenin4080 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to buy a Helios 44-2 as well. How do you differentiate between the two?
@kamishimoproductions5096
@kamishimoproductions5096 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Retro Foto House, thanks so much for these tutorials and well-researched reviews of vintage glass. I have a Helios 44 - 2 58mm f2 lens m42 mount, the one you reviewed first. I don't see any screws on this particular lens. Is there any way you could help me declick this lens? I intend to use it on a Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4k. Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
it is difficult to de-click a helios 44-2 lens, as it is pre-set aperture lens. You need to take it apart almost completely
@andrecanis4894
@andrecanis4894 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful video, thanks. I was just looking on eBay and saw a version with KMZ Logo, 75 serial, but "zebra" focus ring. Since it is listed as de-cklicked, I guess it is possible that it was assembled from a KMZ lens with a Belomo Zebra focusing block during de-clicking process?
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse Жыл бұрын
these lenses were never de-clicked in factory
@sergiofl96
@sergiofl96 4 жыл бұрын
I have been looking for this for a very long time! Thank you so much! Now I know I have the Helios 44-2 from Valdai (´77), Could you be so kind to answer me a question? What does the block on the rear means? Does that mean that If I buy an adapter I can´t use it or something?? Thanks again!
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
i did not catch what do you mean
@michaelwasteland
@michaelwasteland 3 жыл бұрын
It’s an amazing video, thank you it help me a lot because I’m thinking to buy this lens, the only question I’ve got is how can I realize that is a type 5 belomo, in almost everywhere I found this lens to buy it’s not specified, thanks again and sorry if it’s a dumb question
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 3 жыл бұрын
you need to look at the factory sign on the internal ring, near front optical element.
@santiaguilera7400
@santiaguilera7400 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, I've seen quite a few of your videos but until today I haven't subscribed, I quite like the videos that I've seen so far. I told you, a while ago I tried to adapt a helios 44M 7 to nikon and I do not know what happened; the thing is that today I removed the conversion to nikon and when riding it does not fit the focus ring. Please you could make a video showing how the said ring fits and finishing the motage. Thanks a lot
@rubenzamora3326
@rubenzamora3326 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. What would you recommend for photography only? Thank you
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 жыл бұрын
try helios 44-2 type 1 you won't be disappointed
@Arturo.H.M
@Arturo.H.M 4 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation over this historical lens. Thanks you very much.
@1987hooda
@1987hooda 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@victorfernandes7423
@victorfernandes7423 4 жыл бұрын
I got a Zenit Camera with a Helios 44m 6 new in it's original box. They were never used. I don't what to do with it. I have another helios which I use and a jupiter 37a. I love them.
@tariniprasad7318
@tariniprasad7318 2 жыл бұрын
Donate it to me
@kris.krustev
@kris.krustev Жыл бұрын
Hello, I want to ask , in this video you mention that the one you recommend for film-making is the ordinary Belomo plant 44-2, with the green aperture markings and the yellow focusing distance markings, however in the video collaboration with Mathieu Stern, according to him the KMZ one is the best m42 helios mount, I'm confused whether to which one would be the best for recording videos, looking to de-click it and use it on a Canon 6D, thanks in advance!
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse Жыл бұрын
KMZ helios 44-2 is rare to find, in the meantime Belomo one is not so difficult to find and is of decent quality. That's why i recommend it.
@dr5chrome896
@dr5chrome896 3 жыл бұрын
Retro - I have pentax systems mostly and some Nikon. Both film and digital. I became interested in shooting the old lenses just recently. Ive purchased several M42 lenses and a few M39s. Ive had conflicting info out there on adaptors and the adaptors don't allow infinity focus. I wont know this for sure until I get everything in hand, but am I going to have issue in using these old lenses with a pentax body? Do the adaptors allow infinity focus? Thanks for your time. regards,, Dave W
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 3 жыл бұрын
you won't have infinity on m39 SLR lenses, as flange focal distance is 45.2mm instead of reqiured 45.5 for proper use via moder adapters
@benjaben101
@benjaben101 6 ай бұрын
first of all thank you so much for this video, it was so helpful! second, ive got a question. Do you know if can put the rear element (last one) of a type 7 valdai in a belomo zebra instead of the original one? i want to do this beacause i have a zebra with a scratched rear element and a type 7 valdai with a perfect rear element.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 5 ай бұрын
try and you will see. And please share your experience with out audience
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