ASUS ROG Ally Z1: Is It Good Enough?

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The Z1 ROG Ally is coming soon, so let's take a look at how this $599 handheld Windows PC compares to the $699 Z1E model that is already on the market.
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00:00 introduction
01:25 what is the Z1 ROG Ally?
02:38 user interface and software
06:06 controls
09:07 ergonomics
10:32 screen & sound
13:51 PC game performance test
21:23 emulation performance test
26:56 Z1 vs Z1 Extreme
29:07 battery life
32:32 summary and conclusion
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@RetroGameCorps 9 ай бұрын

Correction, the Z1 chip is more aligned to the Ryzen 5 7540U (4 CUs) than the Ryzen 5 7640 (8 CUs). Thanks to everyone for pointing it out!

@X862go 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the audio highlights 🎉 I love these speakers 🔊

@E_Sunbro 9 ай бұрын

Also, the 2021 XG Mobile is the 3080 Laptop, not the 3080Ti Laptop. 😊

@yusepbcn 9 ай бұрын

You should take this video down. That mistake is quite big. You just made a mistake in the most important and different part vs the extreme...

@RomanBellicTaxi 9 ай бұрын

@@yusepbcneasy there, he's no LTT 🙊

@yusepbcn 9 ай бұрын

@@RomanBellicTaxi yes, but the error is not a small stuff. Imagine Russ mistaking the chip of the new anbernic.

@UnvarnishedTarnished 9 ай бұрын

If it was $200 less, I could see justifying its existance but the disadvantages are not worth saving $100.

@CBXweb 9 ай бұрын

at $399, it would be a Killer. $599 is too much for the loss of performance

@MikeCriticalOps 9 ай бұрын

@@CBXwebtheir margins must be pretty low since the z1 extreme is really price competitive they would be losing money if they sold it any lower

@kyledoesntgetit5602 9 ай бұрын

Considering you can get an open-box Z1E for the same price at the same store, it's a really tough proposition at $599. I wonder if Asus is going to put these on sale regularly.

@MikeCriticalOps 9 ай бұрын

@@kyledoesntgetit5602 those open box have a higher chance of having a lot of backlight bleed or any other known asus quality control issues cause they were returned for a reason lol

@X862go 9 ай бұрын

200 how?

@JayCee_SF 6 ай бұрын

Awesome video. This is what I was looking for. Thank you and keep going 💪🏽

@dragon2knight 5 ай бұрын

My how time can change things up dramatically----Best Buy almost always had the Z1 version at $399. It's not all the time, but most of it. For that much of a drop over the Z1 extreme, I'll deal with the lower performance and buy a ton more games 😄

@Psilent_P 4 ай бұрын

just grabbed a Z1 for $399. at that price, not bad for someone who just wants to dabble in handhelds. Would have never considered spending over $500 on a handheld

@joseserpas265 2 ай бұрын

How many fps do you get with it I wanna get one pc I don’t have a gaming pc or laptop and wanna play games on it maybe not mw3 just stories games

@acaliasrodeback658 2 ай бұрын

@@joseserpas265expect around 30 fps on mid setting on new games

@douglarsen4801 2 ай бұрын

I have now owned the Z1 extreme, currently the Legion go, and early the steam deck. Locally I can get a non-extreme for 250. Seriously seriously debating it because for that price it will emulate pretty much anything and I am within shooting distance of an Odden, but with the ability to play some AAA light I have my desktop and laptop for the heavy stuff.

@SplendidNinja Ай бұрын

@douglarsen4801 realistically once you want to play the bigger AAA stuff you'll probably want a bigger screen, etc so I think lightweight gaming and indies is perfect for the Z1

@Alex_Official4493 21 күн бұрын

@@douglarsen4801 I can get a non extreme for R10500 💅

@iSpenC 9 ай бұрын

The Ally drew me into the handheld community. I got mine day 1. I still love it. It does everything that I wanted it to do. I do have some interest in the Legion Go though.

@randrants1024 9 ай бұрын

it's the most detailed review of the rog ally, that's exactly what i was looking for. great job

@lnrdo49 9 ай бұрын

I think most people will spend the extra $100 for the Z1 Extreme. Maybe that will see them bring the price down on the Z1 in the future. I just hope that disappointing sales of the Z1 won't lead to Asus giving up on making budget or mid-tier handhelds, we need more

@SOPHISTICATED_VIBES 9 ай бұрын

We need more moving forward not backwards.

@creaturecore13 9 ай бұрын

This handheld will confuse parents or people unfamiliar with the differences and they will end up with a bad experience because of it. Unless you are going to go really cheap like sub $300 for an emulation machine like the odin 2 they should not come out with these gimped x86 handhelds. They are too weak to play games well and at that $300 price you are better off with an android operating system with a snapdragon. You'll be able to emulate everything up to ps2 and gamecube and get great battery life with a better OS experience. Still could stream everything as well. Just make sure you add a desktop like feature when plugged in to a monitor like Samsung or Motorola has.

@oscaspunkja 9 ай бұрын

Or just get an open box Z1 extreme at around 550...

@lnrdo49 9 ай бұрын

@@creaturecore13 If we applied that logic to gaming PCs and laptops they would all come with RTX4090s and be prohibitively expensive for most people. Handheld PCs with varying degrees of performance and price is a good thing for the consumer.

@MegaMinecraft901 9 ай бұрын

@@creaturecore13I doubt parents are buying these over regular consoles

@alantsai3453 9 ай бұрын

The performance / efficiency differences are larger than I thought

@deansmits006 9 ай бұрын

Yeah, I had heard when this device was released, I don't know if it was from Asus or AMD or someone else, that the difference wouldn't be that great. It's a good step up on the Extreme, so I think the Z1 is for less expensive devices in the $400-500 range. 720p LCD screens, cheaper plastic body and buttons, smaller and slower drives. Built for emulation and older titles. If there is a market for that in that price bracket

@johnbuscher7119 9 ай бұрын

@@deansmits006 Something to consider, if they're dropping to 720p, the GPU horsepower needed will also drop pretty dramatically, so it could still do some AAA games at a reasonable framerate (or probably using less power to do 30fps), which would be a perfectly fine compromise. After all, that's basically where the Deck was targeting and while Valve has the pain point of selling either at a loss or pretty much at cost (can't believe they'd be making any money on these things with how much some stuff costs these days...), if Asus could have at least designed down to the $500 range with a cheaper screen that competes more with the Deck, it'd be a good alternative to suggest for people. Otherwise, if you're in the US, getting a Deck on sale for $360 is basically *the* deal to get, just add your own screen protector and a microSD card and you're off to the races.

@CTRLMaximum 9 ай бұрын

Been waiting for this one, thanks Russ!

@evilbunny5950 9 ай бұрын

After watching both of your reviews I think I made the correct choice getting the z1 extreme version rather than waiting for the cheaper one to come out over here (UK). Thankyou for your clear and concise review on both devices

@plaistowjames6792 9 ай бұрын

You're welcome

@acidhalide123 8 ай бұрын

New subscriber, thanks for all your awesome videos! I love your particular brand of reviews and hands-on descriptions that is sometimes better than straight benchmarks. Got the Z1 Extreme Ally and love it! Game on!

@flux_6223 9 ай бұрын

At the ROG price point, I don't think its worth saving $100 to get a Z1. What I'm interested in is the possibility of mini PCs using the Z1 in the future at decent prices. It would make for a great little Steam Box/alternative console.

@infomanfaatshare6667 9 ай бұрын

They put a price for just portability

@OmairArif 9 ай бұрын

especially since Best Buy has tons of open box returns of the Z1E Ally on their shelves going for a bit under $600.

@cfilorvyls457 9 ай бұрын

Which is dumb since steam deck beats them in almost every category. At least the z1 extreme version have performance advantage in some cases, this new model is just a worse steam deck.@@infomanfaatshare6667

@Jimmys_TheBestCop 9 ай бұрын

@@minhthang97 you sir are 100% correct

@donkeydrangis216 6 ай бұрын

The Z1 is now consistently selling for $399. Now it just depends if it’s worth it at that price point

@elpelon96 5 ай бұрын

Yup I am seriously considering getting the z1 at that price but since this will be my only gaming setup (last one was ps2) I'm hesitant to get the lower model. Just getting back in to gaming and Currently using a tablet with Xbox game pass and I think I need something that can do all the new higher end games

@donkeydrangis216 4 ай бұрын

@@elpelon96 I bought the Odin 2 and way a way smarter purchase for me. Nothing I can’t emulate and I can stream all the rest.

@elpelon96 4 ай бұрын

@@donkeydrangis216 I ended up getting the extreme, was looking at them that weekend on best buy and almost got the z1 but decided to wait a couple weeks but on Monday I couldn't resist and checked bestbuy again and they dropped the extreme to $599 and they had open box in excellent condition for $500 so I went for it

@Axillas Ай бұрын

@@donkeydrangis216can’t play steam games though

@fatmaninhell_za9915 6 ай бұрын

Apparently they are 399 at the moment would be interesting to get a relook at the value proposition. Especially with the bios updates

@fatmaninhell_za9915 5 ай бұрын

definately interesting to look at now with the fluid frames driver being available

@Prodbytocile 3 ай бұрын

@@fatmaninhell_za9915 i wanna try that forrsure

@Evil-qs2xc Ай бұрын

Is it good?

@rockafella2664 9 ай бұрын

I was feeling ill when I got home then saw this pop up on my phone. Life is good! Lol thanks Russ ❤

@dgevert 9 ай бұрын

It will be interesting to see if the Ally Z1 continues to fry microSD cards. If it does, what the hell, Asus? And if it doesn't...what the hell, Asus?

@tone19xx 9 ай бұрын

Brooooo is that what happened to my shit?

@jcsyjc 9 ай бұрын

Yes

@kingjulien9525 9 ай бұрын

That's why I returned mine a week after having it. I've lost intereted after.

@Zeroware1 2 ай бұрын

Best review on KZfaq, thanks man.

@alexdenzin978 2 ай бұрын

I just got it and it runs everything just fine. Like a dragon in 1080p and high settings with 25w, no issues. GC emulation all good. FC24 with high in 720p, no issues besides the stupid cut scenes. Jedi Surviror in low and 720p also works like a charm. If you are in a country where the Z1 is 200 or even more EUR cheaper, its definitely worth it over the extreme version.

@byjacobc1880 8 ай бұрын

i got Z1 extreme and it handles evry game i try. Love it. Havent been on my main pc for a while 10/10

@stevenmichel2897 2 ай бұрын

I’m in the same boat as you after the z1 extreme my pc collects dust and I gotta sweet rig too

@jrpgquest 9 ай бұрын

don't worry about benchmarks the review you do is comprehensive enough for me

@zZiL341yRj736 9 ай бұрын

To negate the deadzone you can also go into Steam Input and set the Right Stick as Joy Stick Mouse. Smooth movements.

@RetroGameCorps 9 ай бұрын

Nice tip, thanks!

@chedhead3278 9 ай бұрын

Cheers Russ, interesting stuff. Not quite hitting a price/performance/battery life sweet spot for me.

@KDiaz-hy1xx 7 ай бұрын

Came here because I see one currently on sale for 398 and I'm seriously considering it.

@Drivenby 9 ай бұрын

Did not expect a late video

@heyjeySigma 9 ай бұрын

@@SRC267 Go to sleep Euopoorian

@dakotahrickard 9 ай бұрын

I'm pretty stupid excited about this whole thing. I'm still waiting on the Legion Go to come out, because detachable controllers have potential in my head, but the Ally is still my dream handheld.

@David-ln8qh 9 ай бұрын

Hopefully the Legion Go is popular and manufacturers start making alternate controller attachments. The best thing about the Switch joycons was the opportunity to swap them for full size controller grips.

@SkeeziOS 9 ай бұрын

Something to note: Best Buy is selling the ROG ally Z1E used at like new condition for around 600-630. If you go for a worse condition you might be able to get it for even less. At that price there is no good reason to buy this, so you’ll probably see this handheld either discontinuing or dropping down to 500 (or even 450 though unlikely). Edit: my best buy has the rog ally open box with excellent condition at $587.99. An absolute BARGAIN, I recommend checking your local best buy for the price if you're looking for one.

@robertsmith20022 9 ай бұрын

Lol what? They won't be discontinuing it or dropping the price. Those are best buy exclusive open box and cosmetically flawed units. Doesn't mean it's going to drop in price or that they will stop selling it 🤣

@B_Machine 9 ай бұрын

I am hoping there's a holiday season sale for the RoG Ally.

@AbrahamZX1 9 ай бұрын

Got mine open box from Best Buy at $609 looking like new and have had 0 issues with it in a month.

@Swetabh96 9 ай бұрын

Dude take mine z1E for 400 dollars plus shipping but it has stick drift

@CrunchyTire 9 ай бұрын

I dont want someones salami jerkin hands all over my handheld.

@Jaedenray 9 ай бұрын

Hey Russ! Kind of a new subscriber, who bought their first handheld device (Miyoo mini plus) based on your videos! I was hoping if you could give us another video on some “budget” handhelds maybe under the $200 mark? The miyoo mini is perfect for GBA and some PS1 emulation which is what I got it for. BUT, I am kind of missing the console I grew up with, the PS2 and Wii. I know that those two might be hard to find, besides the retroid pocket 3+, but I’m hoping you can help me narrow down a few more choices. But thank you, I watch your videos every time you upload. You’re really doing very exceptional work along with other KZfaqrs focusing on retro and handheld gaming. Again, thank you and a very warm thank you for getting me in touch with my inner child!

@Dracossaint 9 ай бұрын

That latest vertical handheld and and the retroid pocket flip can do GameCube and PS2. If you want Wii though, ya maybe outta luck for a bit longer at that price point. So you'll need to wait for another gen before that, otherwise you'll have to raise your budget a bit.

@kevinmitchell766 9 ай бұрын

If you're willing to spend a little more, I think you would like the Odin Lite.

@ninjason57 9 ай бұрын

I didn’t even know this was out! It needs to be same price as steam deck $500 max

@showOff7X 9 ай бұрын

If you are already spending that much money, might as well spend extra 100 dollars to get xtreme model. Doesn't make sense to leave so much performance on the table to save only 100 bucks...on the other hand, i think this model should have been priced at $499.

@bohbnelson1539 3 ай бұрын

I just bought a non extreme for $330 from best buy, and I am so excited!

@arield1899 3 ай бұрын

Please help , you play triple A games ?

@Evil-qs2xc Ай бұрын

Is it good

@gamingoninteluhdgraphics6296 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for the review. For $100 less it is not worth it. Z1 Extreme version for $100 more is the best price performance. Not to forget the two-time smaller SSD(512 vs. 256 Gb).

@tylerlaninga8673 7 ай бұрын

Prices are much better at the moment. best buy $400 for the zl $600 z1e, just ordered an open box good condition z1e for 520

@3up3rn0va 9 ай бұрын

That price point is actually intriguing. I keep thinking to myself. Man, I'd love to have a windows dedicated handheld. Although Linux handhelds like the steamdeck are great. So many games just straight up run better on windows. Thank you for your coverage as always! I have to say though. I wonder what you do with your handhelds? I saw you auction off some. From that one video you posted. But Like on a regular bases. I'd have a hard time choosing which ones to use. 😂 I like my Steamdeck though. It can do everything I need it to

@MoswenMedia 7 ай бұрын

Buy a 1 - 2tb SSD, and put an install of windows on to it, then write an image of whatever flavor of Linux you want on a 1tb micro SD. When you wanna run windows leave the card out, when you want Linux pop that booger in.

@Zendariel87 9 ай бұрын

I was hoping this would be close to matching the battery life with the steam deck on lighter indie games and emulators, but with it seemingly capping under 4 hours even there and costing around the same as the top model of steam deck this might be a hard sell. But the higher frame rate, VRR and screen is nice so hopefully there is a market for this and more incentive for Valve to improve on the screen.

@krzysztof6591 9 ай бұрын

What higher frame rate? There is none. Z1E is hardly faster considering drawbacks in battery/power.

@Zendariel87 9 ай бұрын

@@krzysztof6591 I'm referring mostly to very light indie games that could go for the 120 fps, or anything between 60 and 120 really. The SOC is not so bad that no games can benefit from the higher refresh rate. And if the frame generation picks up in the future that might help in more cases. Better screen is still better screen and something Steam Deck and others could hopefully improve on down the line.

@SmartFool24 9 ай бұрын

I just wish they would support the Z1E more so we’d have some confidence in accessory makers to support the device too.

@Jimmys_TheBestCop 9 ай бұрын

For the LOVE of GOD please review everything in my life

@davidgenoway8889 6 ай бұрын

At the initial MSRP, I think the Z1 does not justify a $100 difference. However, Best Buy is having a $200 discount for the holidays for the Z1 which, in my opinion, is way more in line with price vs performance difference. In my use case, the Z1 will be more than sufficient for the games I intend on playing, especially while I’m traveling. Plus, down the road, as things change, the ability to upgrade the GPU for home use is perfect! Just my $.02

@BETEP-gw7qp 6 ай бұрын

The $200 discount is back now, and there have some open box units for $320 in good condition (not excellent, excellent is around $340). It's tempting.

@davidgenoway8889 6 ай бұрын

@@BETEP-gw7qp yeah. I got mine, and playing around with it. For a handheld, it’s actually not doing too bad. If you can get it for $320, dude, do it!

@jonesboyski1586 7 ай бұрын

Thanks bud this helps 👍

@molsen7549 9 ай бұрын

The ONLY reason to pick up the original Ally over a Steam Deck was because of the significant performance boost. Here, that advantage is lessened. Just go with a Deck and enjoy the amazing software support and ecosystem.

@BGRecon 9 ай бұрын

I have the deck and other handheld pcs. I have the most issues with the deck. I still love it when it works but yeah i don't have as much access to my library as i wanted.

@c6tlvr 9 ай бұрын

@BGRecon wtf are u even talking about? what library? unless urbtoo rtrded almost everything works on the deck, everything I've thrown at the deck worked, even games and apps nobody knows about

@molsen7549 9 ай бұрын

@@c6tlvr most games work just fine, but there's some popular titles that don't due to anti-cheat incompatibility. Like CoD, Battlefield, etc. That's my biggest issue with the Deck.

@asawarai 9 ай бұрын

@@c6tlvr Xbox Game Pass? Games with Anti-Cheat?

@c6tlvr 9 ай бұрын

@asawarai u won't be playing warzone on the steamdeck, don't need gamepass when i pirate whatever i want

@muhammadmq5387 11 күн бұрын

Found a new Z1 for $305 today and at that price I couldn’t resist. For casual use I can’t stomach spending nearly double for the extreme

@CandyChannel1966 7 күн бұрын

How is it? I might buy one

@colossus022 9 ай бұрын

Love your videos!. So what handheld is best for PS2 emulation, without having to tweak and change certain settings?

@elasmojones 9 ай бұрын

dang, I didn't think I'd actually see the Z1...was taking so long

@joshuafisher5447 5 ай бұрын

I picked up one on sale for $400 as a jrpg machine. Comes in today hope it was worth the investment

@CryingFortniteKids 5 ай бұрын

Was it?

@gatway100 9 ай бұрын

I feel astonished and bringing out the Z1 regular 1. You should have fixed the problem with the microSD card.

@karthikeyan53 9 ай бұрын

They can give 720p 60hz screen in this and sell it for 300$. That's a good price for this.

@thehardyboys4227 9 ай бұрын

I’m gonna keep my eye open on the Ally Z1 extreme model and see if it goes on sale on Black Friday/Cyber Monday for 5-10% off

@NOMOREDEI 9 ай бұрын

the ally also has quite a bit of motion blur / ghosting due to it being 7ms response rate. i noticed this straight away when moving the mouse cursor for example. it blurs. probably gonna be more noticeable for people on the spectrum like me. i would say the steamdeck is worse tho

@bits2646 9 ай бұрын

Z1 corelates more with 7540U than 7640U but to me I'd base it on 7640U and use 7540U for "lite" chip for h-helds up to 6" used mostly for indie and emu

@harlowdreams4569 6 ай бұрын

I got mine for about 400 at best buy, and honestly I think it's worth the price. Sure you could just get the z1 extreme but price wise, think about it like a switch lite to a normal switch. Sure it's missing a few things but it's still a good handheld.

@xuimod 6 ай бұрын

I got the ROG ALLY Extreme as an open box for $500 at Best Buy. Worth it 1000%.

@cassijoanna 5 ай бұрын

Just order the same deal. I'm excited to try it

@xuimod 5 ай бұрын

@@cassijoanna it was a bit of a hassle to get working right. The guy who returned the ROG ALLY had vanilla Windows 11 installed so during the initial setup Windows didn't recognize the ROG Wi-Fi card so I couldn't connect to the internet. I ended up having to boot into the ROG BIOS and doing an Asus cloud recovery.

@C4ETech 9 ай бұрын

27:04 WHY Russ WHY? Nausea Warning 😂😂

@williamhebert8862 9 ай бұрын

sending some love to ratchet in the background

@OrbitlynX Ай бұрын

In Europe Z1 being now 400 new, I am picking mine today mint for 300. I think this we can consider a good deal.

@jonathansoko1085 21 күн бұрын

Got a Extreme for 550. It was surprisingly easy to set up other than me having to reset all my windows and steam passwords cuz I forgot them all. The setup took a little bit to load up but other than that I was playing a game not long after finishing the install process. I'm most impressed with the sound and the screen. I've used the steam deck in the Ally speakers blow it away it might not be a big deal for some people but it's important to me. The only reason I went for this was it was on sale at Best buy and I could pick it up I can't just get a steam deck in person. The downside to that was having to have Best buy pitch me 10 different warranties and upsells and upgrading my accounts. They wanted me to spend like an extra $300 on stuff I didn't need. If it breaks I'll either send it to Asus or fix it myself I don't need Best buy to disappoint me.

@RomanBellicTaxi 9 ай бұрын

Wait a bit... Z1Extreme is basically the 7840U, but the TFLOPS performance is around 3x the Z1. But I believe the 7640U has 8 CUs on the GPU, and Z1X/7840U has 12... so the Z1 probably/really has 4 CUs as it was said... that's a big cut. Even the Steam Deck has 8, despite from one gen before. If it was at least 6, like the (middle) AYN Loki, it would be okay, but 4 is a quite a stretch for some cases. If I had the money and a single option for a non-6800U/non-7840U, I think I'd prefer a GPD Win 4 with the 7640U... I believe Asus dropped the ball on this one. That said, there's always a case for everything. Someone might get this one and put in lots of hours of fun. If so, good for you! Nice video as always, Russ. edit: better reading; 4 CUs, not 3, guess I can't math properly 🥲

@SvDKILLSWITCH 9 ай бұрын

The Z1 has 4 CUs, it's most similar to a 7540U, not a 7640U.

@RomanBellicTaxi 9 ай бұрын

@@SvDKILLSWITCHthank you, right after commenting I edited a bit of stuff to be clearer, but still made a fool of myself 😂

@ElCapitanD 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video, as far as I know Asus XG mobile comes with 3080 and no 3080ti.

@pkilljoy5797 9 ай бұрын

vrr can be adjusted using custom resolution utility. my range goes all the way down to 20hz

@Bleh693 5 ай бұрын

Hard to swallow at the 599 price, but it's now 399 at Best Buy which makes it a lot more tempting. For the Z1 non extreme version

@TheTyisawesome 9 ай бұрын

Should try a custom manual 18w mode its a nice buff of up to 10fps with just the 3w boost rather than turbos extra 10w

@fallryan 9 ай бұрын

Until a hardware revision comes around for the SD card issue, I can't see *either* SKU being a good idea... I only see the lower spec model here being a winner if somewhere down the line they get heavy discounts.

@hazeydaze8396 9 ай бұрын

You'd think they'd of already halted production for that

@GundamDroid 9 ай бұрын

whats the SD card issue about?

@AntonioCunningham 9 ай бұрын

@@GundamDroidMany Ally have been frying people SD cards. Russ even mention in this video that he couldn't retest Two of the games because they were on this fried SD card. People think it's because the slot is too close to the Air exhaust, but either way, it's too risky to use SD cards with Ally devices.

@GundamDroid 9 ай бұрын

@@AntonioCunningham wow that is really bad. I hope they can solve that in the next ally if there is one.

@fallryan 9 ай бұрын

@@GundamDroid not just cooked cards, some folks have had the actual SD card hardware in the device die, notably Gamers Nexus had that happen to the (retail) unit they were reviewing.

@johnparty3786 5 ай бұрын

I would say in term of Performance mode, it's about 20% difference between Z1 & Z1E version, which is pretty reasonable to pick Z1 at $399

@dadapogi7983 7 ай бұрын

This Ally non-x for $399 or steam deck with same price? Which one is better? Because right now ally non-x is $399 in best buy so i was wondering w/c is better to get.

@alekxss 5 ай бұрын

hi! great video, best review channel! i think your FPS not grows when increase TDP because this games (Zero Dawn and Spiderman) caps to 4GB of GPU RAM

@Trusteft 8 ай бұрын

Three questions. 1. Doesn't the system allow you to have scale to screen so that the black bars are only on the sides instead of all sides for 4:3 games? 2. Can this CPU really not bottleneck the external mobile 3080 Ti? That's impressive. 3. Since you use it as a PC, (which I would too if I had one), have you tried doing video editing on the device, with external monitor with and without the external GPU?

@FortbloxNET 9 ай бұрын

quick question. is there anywhere a list of the top 10 best emulation handhelds? there are tons of reviews of different devices, but i need a comparison :D whats the best of the best? i need a budget one for like 100 bucks, that plays SNES; all kind of game boys(classic,color,advance) etc. thats small, that has good batterylife, that has not a bugged d-pad, that has no image stuttering or whatever. where can i find a comparison like that? =) or any sugestions for the best ones out there currently?

@Aq7 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the great video again! One suggestion: could you test the streaming performance also? After trying the Moonlight for Steamdeck, 99% of my gaming is streaming from my main pc. Does this support Moonlight? How's the experience?

@secureb00t39 9 ай бұрын

Z1 Extreme user here I don't use moonlight specifically, but I do use Parsec for remote play. It supports modern streaming codecs like h.265 and works with fairly low latency if that helps at all

@deathjunior7755 9 ай бұрын

I don't even care about this version of the Ally but thank you so much for this video. D2 is my main game and that thumbstick issue has been a huge pain point since the thumbstick settings had done nothing to help certain games on my steamdeck I had all but given up and hadn't thought to adjust them on steam on my Ally. Also I had no idea about the controls using the D Pad and the back bumpers. I'm 8 minutes in and this is already the most informative ROG Ally Video I have seen and I have owned my Z1 Extreme since launch. Thank you so much now if they could fix it so that halo MCC's input worked properly from the handheld controls I'd be all set.

@fb4533 9 ай бұрын

Could you make a video of the upcoming (announced or rumored) Handhelds for 2024 ? Thanks. 😀

@whatthedeer4878 2 ай бұрын

Got it at 399.00 and honestly I am chill with it, for the casual games I play they run perfectly fine and hardware wise its just cool looking, so I'm a happy camper with the regular Z1, ASUS should keep it at 399.00 IMO

@RandomThingReviews 9 ай бұрын

I bought the Z1 extreme, excellent condition open box for $600 and added 3 years of warranty for $200.

@dylanromeoanakrockeffllerm427 9 ай бұрын

Woww that a great deal

@deansmits006 9 ай бұрын

I did a similar thing with a TV recently. Nice

@GetLostGames1 9 ай бұрын

Yeah I wish i had this.

@personalcompertest 8 ай бұрын

Favorite part about the system is silent mode. Not even kidding. I always use silent mode at 30 FPS on all AAA games I get about 3 hours

@ShawnBuckingham 9 ай бұрын

For me, I want a 120hz OLED. I was so excited for the Kun but the 60hz screen 😢

@mechanicalmonk2020 9 ай бұрын

9 watt TDP for lightweight games still blows my mind. It's so high.

@keegankailey7309 6 ай бұрын

Is it worth the $399.99 it's on sale for at Best Buy right now?

@giovannirosario4274 6 ай бұрын

Well I can play ready or not with a decent steady frame rate on 15 performance mode and slow down on certain maps but other than that it's been a smooth experience. I should have bought the z1 extreme though..

@Raebo911 9 ай бұрын

If the Z1 performs so much worse than the Z1 Extreme in most cases, then just get back Steam Deck at that point. The cheapest model is $359 right now, which is a steal!

@deansmits006 9 ай бұрын

Steam must be losing a little money, or just covering costs on the Deck. Which is often the case with Consoles, but not typically full computers. But I agree, that's a steal.

@c6tlvr 9 ай бұрын

@deansmits006 they aren't losing money at all lol, they just know how to sell

@matuzaato 9 ай бұрын

@@c6tlvrthey mean losing money on hardware sales, which is a common thing on console, you regain your money on software sales, which asus can't do (as they don't own steam)

@nathanlamaire 9 ай бұрын

@@deansmits006they indeed sell the hardware at a loss. Valve wants to build their own ecosystem

@Adam1llion 9 ай бұрын

Very interesting on this chip....maybe getting a used Z1 xtreme for the same price if not less than Z1 $599 price is the way to go. I have a feeling this ROG Ally will have a good sale this year for Black Friday. Maybe holding out for a couple more months is better.

@OpoSai 9 ай бұрын

Best buy open box for an Z1E is your most savings

@kimalibennett9468 6 ай бұрын

Just got one for $300!!!! For the price of literally a used switch, this thing can't be best!

@alfredtorres1252 6 ай бұрын

What are you playing on it ?

@kimalibennett9468 6 ай бұрын

@@alfredtorres1252 man so far I've just been enjoying the same games from my deck at like double the performance it feels 😭. I was impressed in sections of cyberpunk that ran locked 40 but now I can get a nice image and turbo mode 25w off battery and I can hit 60!! And even the dips in heavy scenes on medium don't go below 30. Vrr helps out. Besides that I'd say 120fps halo,sifu, I'm waiting to see how the situation develops with cod but I'll probably skip it, I want to set up some psp emulators etc. plus I don't miss my decks track pad at all armory crate ftw

@alfredtorres1252 6 ай бұрын

@@kimalibennett9468 heck yeah. I sold my steam deck and got the rog ally for what I sold my steam deck for. All the reviews were talking bad about the z1 model and it couldn’t run mw3. I’ve been playing it flawlessly on battery and obviously ever better when plugged in. I was running windows on steam deck but this blows it out of the water. I was playing Skyrim on steam deck and so excited to play it on rog ally especially since I have an upcoming flight this week

@lethalexponent6 6 ай бұрын

Do you have a z1 or the extreme @@kimalibennett9468

@jotaparruso 9 ай бұрын

I'll just keep using my Oled Switch for handheld gaming and my PS5 for those AAA games, my life will not change being able to play them on the go, i rather enjoy them at home in my already expensive monitor without having to go through all the trouble of settings and all that bs

@BETEP-gw7qp 6 ай бұрын

I got my kid (10 y.o.) the PlayStation Portal for Christmas, but we're finding it not to be that great. It gets laggy often, and it came with a screen defect (stuck pixel) with no easy way to replace it due to supply shortages. I can still return it, and I was wondering if the basic Z1 ally might be a good option. My kid does play PC games, mostly Roblox, but he also likes all kinds of smaller Indy games, that's what kids are into these days it seems. I think for just a bit more (I can get a Z1 open box Ally today for $320, or new for $399), it might be worth a try. Can you guys think of any downsides? While not as seamless, we can still do remote play from PS5, we can also do remote play via Steam, and heck, maybe even stream some games from my desktop with a 4090 in it. And of course run some games directly on the unit. It's tempting.

@B3nG420 2 ай бұрын

this video needs an update since it's $399

@gumbyx84 9 ай бұрын

Russ could you PLEASE share the temple you use for your RTSS/MSI Afterburner overlay? Are you using tbe Z1 Extreme or Z1 with the XG Mobile?

@Drivenby 9 ай бұрын

Z1. He already has a bunch of Z1e + xg videos

@nicememe8809 Ай бұрын

Got it for $360 with a 1TB SSD preinstalled and the case.

@GodlessTramp-tq5rd 9 ай бұрын

i saw the video with 420 views, i knew what i had to do

@Haywood-Jablomie 9 ай бұрын

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@heyjeySigma 9 ай бұрын

Did you blaze it?

@dannyd4339 9 ай бұрын

I'll do it too just because I saw this comment

@luizkp 9 ай бұрын

Kinda late to comment but already blazed mine lmao

@HekaWaset 9 ай бұрын

They clearly introduced it now to counter the 699$ Legion go and those new refurbisned Steam decks. But whoever put down the numbers missed the whole exercise.

@Zeparu 9 ай бұрын

Regarding the dead zone issue, when I first had the Ally, it was present on when navigating the desktop, did they fix that?

@Luscombag 5 ай бұрын

Can the back buttons not be programed for individual games? Like remapping the A button to one of them?

@SvDKILLSWITCH 9 ай бұрын

It's more accurate to say the Ryzen Z1 is analogous to the Ryzen 5 7540U. The Z1 Extreme/Ryzen 7 7840U has 8 CPU cores and 12CUs (Radeon 780M), the Ryzen 5 7640U has 6 CPU cores and 8*CUs (Radeon 760M), and the Z1/Ryzen 5 7540U has 6 CPU cores and 4 CUs (Radeon 740M). Big fan of you being upfront in not being hugely benchmark focused - there's other reviewers who will handle that. Keep doing what you do best - talking about the overall experience.

@Lucas-mt1cb 9 ай бұрын

Radeon 760M has 8 CUs, not 6.

@SvDKILLSWITCH 9 ай бұрын

@@Lucas-mt1cb You're right - I stuffed up a copy/paste + edit and changed the 6 in two places. I've fixed it up above.

@Lucas-mt1cb 9 ай бұрын

@@SvDKILLSWITCH I thought you got confused because Radeon 660M from past year has 6 CUs

@SvDKILLSWITCH 9 ай бұрын

@@Lucas-mt1cb Nope, just hadn't fully woken up yet - CPU and CU look very similar to tired eyes!

@american_document2626 5 ай бұрын

Now at best buy it is 399 looking at picking it up for sure

@hotgrease 3 ай бұрын

Just picked up the Z1 regular for $299. I figure it’s worth the performance decrease to save $3-$400. Wondering what the prices will be when the Ally 2 comes out.

@conza1989 9 ай бұрын

Spoiler alert Z1 vs Z1E reminds me of during an episode of Top Gear, they put a Toyota Prius on a track and ran it flat out, and a BMW M3 just had to keep up with it. After X number of laps or time, the Prius had used more fuel.

@brahienlyortega5351 5 ай бұрын

I got the Z1 non extreme version for 339 open box at Best Buy. I mostly wanted a windows computer to be docked / connected to a monitor with wireless keyboard and mouse 100% of the time. Did I get a good deal? Also I’m not interested in gaming. As I own a ps5 and a modded Nintendo switch. I could perhaps use the rog ally for retro emulation