yeah pretty much lmao

Yep

Yes, a pocketable Odin with a low price tag.

Youre cant. Its not hardware, its software trouble.

@@Leo80310 he probably ment that the new flip should more power

Then you basically have an Odin lite. I'll take an RP4Pro VS Odin. I like pocketable and saving $100.

@@janX9 Well no actually, the size difference between the odin and the retroid is very big and we are missing the sweet spot in the middle... A handheld with a 5.5 screen with very optimised bezels would be just a tiny bit larger but still smaller than odin

I am thinking Retroid Flip 2

Disagree if they also have a windows handheld as they will run switch far better then the odin 2. And if this retroid ends up running ps2 and gamecube without tinkering like the original odin required, this would be a great handheld to have for up to ps2 emulation in a compact package and keep your switch and modern library on your 7840u device.

Facts if this came out before the Odin 2 this would have been bigger

@@Rickidaone So true. I honestly think the best way to play PS2 and GameCube (and most all consoles after) is with your left thumb naturally resting on a thumbstick and not a d-pad. That's just how the majority of those games were designed. The better capability for PS2 performance on the RP4 is great but I think I'd get hand cramps with the low thumbsticks. I think I'll eventually get an Odin 2 especially with the idea that the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 has some future-proofing.

The RP3+ is pretty much the same size and thickness as both Vita models so yeah it's very pocketable. The RP4 is apparently a touch bigger but should be a pretty negligible difference for pocketing.

At this point I‘m waiting a few months. The guy that made the KTR1 wants to make his next device with a snapdragon gen 2 in it, and I‘m sure many others will use that chip aswell soon - making most weaker devices pointless.

@@zoyboy1914 That sounds pretty interesting, I'll keep my eye out for it but hopefully it won't cost more than the Odin 2.

Good question! The RP4 introduces aggressive pricing, so maybe the market has to follow that, we‘ll see@@-roetaka

Apparently the buttons are a little larger than before, I was thinking to put the vita buttons I had in my 3+ in there but I don't think they're gonna fit...they'll probably wiggle around a lot like in the Miyoo Mini. Still, will have to see! Maybe SakuraRetroModding will be fast on the draw.

To be honest if you're leaning to the Odin Pro I think it's worth saving for the Odin 2, not just because of the power but the entire build is just so much nicer. It's harder to convey in videos just how much nicer it is. As for the RP4 Pro obviously it's hard to recommend because it's not out yet with no release date, but the easiest thing to say is do you want something smaller like a PSP (RP4) or bigger like a Switch (Odin)?

I was *ABOUT* to get the Odin 2 Max myself. It is 3 times the cost, but it would be powerful for years to come. But now I'm going with the RP4Pro. It's only $200, it's pocketable and can play the entire PS2 catalogue without needing to mess with emulator settings. Should keep me pretty happy for a while. Meanwhile the market is getting _flooded_ with handhelds *SOOOO* in a year or two, handheld prices will drop and they will probably have the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 or 3. So really cheap but really powerful handhelds are on the way.

As far as I know this is the first time they've released more than one model at the same time. It doesn't make a lot of sense from a manufacturing point of view to source parts for two different models and then push another one out after...but I do like to be suprised 😅. Also Retroid seems to fit the $100-200 market nicely, once they push past that number they're pushing into a very competitive space and I don't know if they have the right product to take that slice yet.

@@-roetaka That was my thought also. The RP4 Pro is essentially the RP4+ model, just released at the same time which is better than how they released the RP2 and RP2+ followed by the RP3 then RP3+. This way looks a lot better since that's how other companies are doing it and they didn't get near the hate that Retroid did with their former release model.

The pro IS the Plus model. They aren't making that mistake again.

@@janX9 I never got the hate other than the fact that some people rushed to get the Next Big Thing and then had to either buy the upgrade hardware or buy another new console. There's a whole lot of retro handheld companies that release low and high end versions of the same console, but Retroid got the pile on action since they delayed the release of their higher end versions by a few months. I guess that they could have said that they were going to release the plus models shortly when they released the first version.

It will have better performance

Both models have black buttons on the transparent colors

@@ChrisCovers78Is that confirmed? Because in the promational images Retroid released the Pro models have rainbow buttons while the Base has black.

@@Mister_Phafanapolis yes. I work for Retroid

It would've been nice if the Pro model had a 1080p screen. I think typically people who want the more expensive models are prepared to pay a little more for quality, so had that bumped the price a bit more I think it would've been ok, but I understand it's a very competitive market. I imagine it was best for their costs though to source the same screen for two models, shipments of screens can have a percentage that flat out don't work. Still 720 for the size is alright and will draw less power and less heat overall.

for 4.7 inces you cant see the difference. I feel that the bezels shoukd be kess

If they were to remove the bezels I would understand the 1080p upgrade, but if not, just keep in mind this is for the retro community. I hope they remove the bezels and do the 1080p upgrade, they can engrave retroid on the back of the handheld. In other words, I don't know why the people are hating that they are kinda reusing the shell, this shell is perfect, it fits right on our pockets as the flip gives sense to its company name.

Lol as you can tell the difference

@@ejdoura That's what I say, thanks man👍

Regular 4 is same performance as odin lite while the 4 pro is more powerful

The 4 is basically the power of the Lite but cheaper. The 4+ is closer to the AYANEO Pocket Air.

Powerful than odin lite but nowhere near ayn odin 2

​@@morpheusmorph13well yeah. Odin 2 max I think is the single most powerful Android emulation handheld on the market. Any more powerful and you're into PC Handhelds.

At least $100 dollars cheaper maybe?

mostly for the price, but yeah if you can affort the odin 2 go for it

Pocketable. Price. Some people don't care about the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2. Because they are happy just emulation up to PS2. RP4Pro really is a good price for what you get. $200 is a small investment for such a fun toy. It's perfect for my personal needs.

​@markhead21 base modules are sold out too so the _available_ pro is $170 more, almost twice the cost.

Because it's cheaper and has a better community when it comes to support "specs don't matter if there no software"

G99 better battery and D1100 better performance (though the difference is small)

@@zoyboy1914 lol, 281.6 Gigaflops (G99) vs 979.2 Gigaflops (1100).

We already can compare the KTR1 (g99) to the Ayn Odin Pro (D1100) in real life, and the difference is small ROFL ROFL@@Leo80310

Haha no, they learned their lesson.

@@janX9 ill be back in 3 months!!!!

I was going to get the Odin 2 Max. Now I'm getting RP4Pro. It will keep me happy. Meanwhile, in a year or two the market will be so flooded with handhelds that the prices will drop and they will all have the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 or 3. Cheap but powerful handhelds are coming. Their hardware will probably surpass the emulation software too.

How is the input lag on new Odin ? People online are saying AYN has the worst input lag for Android.

Can the odin 2 emulate all the library of PS2 and GB? Have you experience any issues? If then I'm sold 😅

​@@CarcosaheadRP4Pro will be able to emulate the entire PS2 and GC libraries without having to mess with emulator settings. Probably with upscaling x2 or x3. Odin 2 is even better. But it costs twice as much.

Odin 2 max is great but it's overkill for my personal needs and is a little too big for my liking. I'll be happy with a RP4Pro. I just need good PS2 and GC emulation. I like the pricetag too.

@@janX9 thanks! Tbh the small screen of the RP4 Pro is a little bummer for me, still love the design, I’m thorn between both the odin2 and the RP4 Pro

what are you even emulate with 4 cores? sub 200$ it may make sense but it cant emulate anything more than what these can anyway and will consume way more battery.

Not true. I was going to get the Odin 2 until I heard about the RP4Pro. Odin 2 is a little too big for my liking. I don't care about Wii emulation either PS2 and older is my personal interest. Steam Deck is gigantic and has a poor battery life. I have a gaming PC. I Don't need a PC in my pocket. I can stream games to the Retroid anyhow. For its size, I think RP4Pro is the best for PS2 emulation. Funny that the 1.5 TB memory card I'm going to get for mine costs almost the same LOL

@@janX9 RP4 Pro is the best for PS2 emulation for it's price point maybe but best PS2 emulation nope! My Odin 2 (base) model can play N64, Wii, GameCube, PS2, Dreamcast, Saturn at full speed even 3x resolution heck I threw in 6x resolution and still played at near full speed no lags, no stutters, no audio problems no video issuess. Odin 2 has the best processor currently Snapdragon 8gen 2 is incredibly powerful processor that plays any emulators including yuzu which can play switch at 30fps. It'll be able to emulate switch at 60fps 6 months from now when it gets full update to run better. And display is so nice 1080p ips LCD and stereo speakers sound better than my Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Plus speakers it is really loud when you crank it to full volume and the bass is very good as well. And has WiFi 7, and Bluetooth 5.3 and 65w fast charging support and hdmi support. I'm sure the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro will be very good handheld console with it's MediaTek Demensity 11 processor which will be powerful and let. You play PS2 games at 2x resolution but I can easily crank that up to 6x resolution on my Odin 2 and it would still play at near full speed. And because the RP4 Pro is gonna be cheaper in price than Odin 2 base it'll have to cut corners be it 720p resolution ips LCD display over 1080p and probably worse off speakers compared to Odin 2 and Bluetooth 5.3 won't be there and WiFi 7 and 65w fast charging won't be there and probably no charging separation. And no ambient light on analogue stick and side of the device all the cool features gone and you have bare bone device enjoy it buddy that's what'll you get for 200 bucks if not 250. If say spend 350 bucks get Odin 2 and you get vastly superior device meant to play emulate every retro consoles ever made. And at full speed even on 6x resolution and powerful graphically demanding mobile games run at 60fps with ease. And the 8000mah on Odin 2 has absolutely amazing battery life!