Retroid Pocket 4 Pro vs. Anbernic RG556 | Which Handheld Should You Get?

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In this video, I go through the key differences between the two sub-$200 handhelds, Retroid Pocket 4 Pro and the Anbernic RG556. They have clear hardware differences, but what about the differences under the hood? How do they compare, for instance, in PS2 & Gamecube emulation? Let's find out!
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@senachan93 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video comparison man. I was torn between these two but I guess bang for the buck would definitely go to RG556. In my country (Malaysia), managed to snagg it for around 215 USD including shipping and a 128gb SD card with games. Just ordered and I guess i have to wait for around 1-2weeks for it. Thanks again, and I do hope you'll upload a video regarding the best way to optimize or customization for the RG556. I just wanna be able to finally play my favourite PS2 game Rogue Galaxy on the go :)

@Eil47 2 ай бұрын

215$ is quite cheap. Here in indonesia, people selling it for 253$.

@handcannon9814 Ай бұрын

Hi bro sudah beli ka?

@senachan93 Ай бұрын

@@handcannon9814 yup dah sampai dah bro. almost 1week + ago sampai. hehehe so far memang puas hati

@fardulmuslim Ай бұрын

Bro. Rogue Galaxy pun aku minat gak. Okay tak performance?

@senachan93 Ай бұрын

@@fardulmuslim damn bro. susah gila nak jumpa orang yang tahu pasal game rogue galaxy hidden gem tu. so far try, dia ada performance issue. even on normal occasion tengah jalan-jalan pun ada stutter. bila tengah lawan, fps drop kawkaw. but lepas minor tweaking sikit sikit, sekarang dapat around 60-75fps at 1.5 resolution. dah cuba juga kat 1x reso, tapi performance pun lebih kurang je. now playable and memang best gila main portable

@RetroDaddyPH 2 ай бұрын

Why I chose the RG556 Amoled Screen vs IPS Larger Screen (Better for streaming) Better ergonomics Bigger Battery / Longer Battery life Significantly cheaper here in Southeast Asia More available on online stores that often do sales and discounts I thought the performance difference would be noticeable, but it seems they can both run a similar amount of emulators at comparable fps.

@Techcravers 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! :)

@dildoze4915 Ай бұрын

Are the sticks gonna be a problem for playing fortnite?

@rhovenom04 Ай бұрын

is it true that ps2 and gamecube runs worse on RG556? i am buying it mostly because of windwaker

@MejaBelajar24 Ай бұрын

@@rhovenom04wind waker played on 1.5 upscale. I played it on 405m

@uhu4677 Ай бұрын

I hate OLED. It flickers and burns in. It's a NoGo for me.

@EliasPfaiffer 2 ай бұрын

ordered my RG556 today im really hyped , its my first OLED display ever! with taxes , shipping and so on for 220 euro // 237 dollar!

@ramrodbldm9876 2 ай бұрын

Lmao getting a "less than device" rp4 beats it put period

@EliasPfaiffer 2 ай бұрын

@@ramrodbldm9876 I have the rp4pro and it's under my bed and collects dust... Anbernic all the way kiddie

@EliasPfaiffer 2 ай бұрын

@@ramrodbldm9876 hey you sponge i have the rp4p, but the crap is gathering dust under my bed! anbernic all the way , deal with it!!!

@DJWhitelow 2 ай бұрын

⁠⁠⁠@@ramrodbldm9876Pretty sure he said they are both good devices… but yeah cool man😂 let’s knock him for picking the cheaper one, with the better screen/ergos etc. ‘Lmao’ btw people like different things, but awesome that your mum got you the retroid for your Bday👍

@ESTENT-cu7qd 2 ай бұрын

@@ramrodbldm9876I would of got the rg556 to but since you wanna talk about the retroid pocket pro the Odin 2 is crushing that so it’s based on what people can afford and I’m all for that

@Supramedical68 2 ай бұрын

I barely had a few hours of use before experiencing a broken Retroid Pocket 4 trigger button and the "replacement shells" still use the same exact spring design. Haven't even touched the 556, but Anbernic wins by default.

@RetroNirvanaGaming Ай бұрын

Great video!

@Techcravers Ай бұрын

Thank you!

@davidsapir3764 Ай бұрын

So, so, so glad I went with the RG 556. I can't love this thing enough.

@jackamick9153 Ай бұрын

I wanted the smallest possible device so I just got the 4 Pro. I thought I would be disappointed by the screen but it’s pretty good. Performance is great on PSP and PS2 games 👌

@dakotaturek9056 Ай бұрын

what front end are you using? i like the look of it!

@Techcravers Ай бұрын

EmulationStation. I have a video up on it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLCpYLl9zNKUeX0.html

@malagutino 2 ай бұрын

Im happy that i decided to buy the Retroidpocket 4Pro. Its very portable and powerful enough to play all my games including PS2 up to 2x resolution. Even some Switch games run at 50-60FPS 😊

@Patrick-bn5rp 2 ай бұрын

So the thing about USB C video out... You can get a usb C dock, and that will supply the unit with power while allowing you to output to a display. The retroid pocket 4 pro actually has the same feature, and like the 556, the signal is 1080p, instead of 720p like you get with the micro hdmi port.

@pwner779 Ай бұрын

Could you drop a link to where we could get that? I just got a RP4 and would love to have a doc

@tim.tishman 2 ай бұрын

Shipping to the US- the retroid pocket is substantially more expensive than the RG when factoring in it’s not on Ali express and retroid charges a crazy amount for shipping

@GLEclipseGaming 2 ай бұрын

I bought the RP4 Pro, the springs in my triggers did break though since i got mine in the first batch and they sent the replacement back plate no problem. Ive had no other issues and I play mine all the time.

@Techcravers 2 ай бұрын

Glad to hear! :)

@GLEclipseGaming Ай бұрын

Thought I'd pop in with an update. I've been playing along of Mega Man X dive and Minecraft on it. Since getting the new springs I've had no issues with the system at all.

@christiancorriveau5069 2 ай бұрын

Yeah I don't think I'm going to be replacing my rp3+ anytime soon. I just can't justify the purchase being disabled. I'm still very happy with the rp3+ and it plays a lot of ps2.

@rullyramanda 2 ай бұрын

I got the RP4P recently and very happy with it. The price to performance is really great. I don't mind the LCD screen and the overall size. RG556 is just too 'meh' for me because it's just boasting the OLED and the ergonomic sides. But the analog stick is not good and also Anbernic stock android is crap that it needs an upgrade with GammaOS which has not been released currently.

@mohammadhassan2235 9 күн бұрын

I would prefer to go with Retropocket 4 Pro, what kind of configurations and launchers did you use in this video?

@Johnny-wf1df 16 күн бұрын

If the Retroid P4Pro had its joystick above the D-pad like the Anbernic does, it would be a no brainer for me... The low joystick looks so uncomfortable

@Techcravers 16 күн бұрын

Unfortunately yes.

@ExiledRetro 2 ай бұрын

I have both, find myself on the 556 way more. That screen wins it. Also the battery on the 556 is insane, no led on and I play 3ds for hours and still above 60% battery.

@nepaliprayasgurung2594 2 ай бұрын

Same here Anbernic RG556 has excellent battery life better than Retroid Pocket 4 pro despite having same 5000mah capacity. And. The OLED screen is simply amazing and more beautiful the color reproduction and the vibrant and saturated colors makes me want to play anbernic rg556 more!

@ExiledRetro 2 ай бұрын

@nepaliprayasgurung2594 right. The rp4pro has all that power and honestly it's a waste without a 1080 screen to use it on. Yeah I can a few games better but they look like trash on comparison.

@nepaliprayasgurung2594 2 ай бұрын

@@ExiledRetro I have Odin 2 and honestly the screen quality is excellent all it needs is OLED display to make the bring out the vibrant and saturated colors. Not saying the ips lcd is bad or anything because it's great screen but having oled would be cherry on top. All I need from Odin 3 is oled display powerful hardware capable of emulating Wii U and PS3, being able to play gamepass from Xbox and it would literally be one of the best handheld!

@ExiledRetro 2 ай бұрын

@nepaliprayasgurung2594 Love AYN devices. Use my Loki Max all the time. If you spend the money and for just straight emulation the Odin2 is king.

@nepaliprayasgurung2594 2 ай бұрын

@@ExiledRetro I agree Odin 2 is king of 2024 emulation handheld. Nothing comes close at the price point. 2nd place I do feel like Anbernic RG556 is 2nd best handheld after Odin 2. Anbernic RG556 oled screen is so beautiful to look at, and honestly many reviewers said that PS2 needs tweaking to get work and you'd have to underclock the performance and you'd have to switch from vulkan to opengl. That's partially true some games do require underclocking majority of PS2 games run fine whether you play it on vulkan or opengl graphic. And DreamCast, GameCube and Wii games definitely run well enough at playable frame rate and quite good. So far I'm happy to call Anbernic RG556 second place after Odin 2, because performance wise this device definitely runs PS2, GameCube, Wii, DreamCast, Saturn and N64, exceptionally well quality wise, except PS2 games which will require tweaking to some degree but almost all other emulators run fantastic no slow down. And build quality is great and my hands doesn't get tired or fatigue even after long duration of play time. With anbernic rg556 battery life is amazing, and so is the oled screen therefore anbernic rg556 overall is definitely a second best handheld after Odin 2!

@janX9 2 ай бұрын

Why _choose?_ Buy *both!* A month ago all I had was a DS. Now i have 6 New Retro handhelds.*SIX!!!* I don't know what happened 😮

@bcjai 2 ай бұрын

I was considering buying either one of them. I chose RP4P because it is convenient for me to carry and play it around, especially when I am taking the subway. I also like the looks of RP4P more.

@BeamerTime354 2 ай бұрын

Have a Odin 2 max and it is amazing. Worth the extra money.

@Techcravers 2 ай бұрын

Yes the Odin 2 is amazing!

@Rebel-hn9ly 2 ай бұрын

I got the base my girl got the max ... Its really no difference but storage . Ram really didn't matter 😂

@nikibln 23 күн бұрын

Does the retroid p4pro come wirh pre installed roms and emulators ?

@JoelsterG4k 22 күн бұрын

No and its a pain to set them up, I have it and i can't even use it because of that.

@kenobi639 2 ай бұрын

I got the rg556 for $160 which included shipping and it comes with with a screen protector. The RP4+ was $240 including shipping, grip and screen protector. Idk but the RP4+ just didnt seem worth the extra $80

@kaizee4231 2 ай бұрын

That's a great deal from where do u buy?

@EliasPfaiffer 2 ай бұрын

160? Never...

@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude 2 ай бұрын

😂I paid 140 after tax and shipping with a Gucci case screen protector charging fast brick and cord @@EliasPfaiffer

@EliasPfaiffer 2 ай бұрын

@@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude yea used , on ebay with.... ;)

@chrisblumarten 25 күн бұрын

@@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude where from?

@Eil47 2 ай бұрын

I ordered one already. For performance, while RP4pro have slightly better performance, this gap can be closed once JelOS support this device. Overall, i like the bigger screen and ergo design.

@JoelsterG4k 22 күн бұрын

Is there going to be JelOS for the RP4 pro.?

@pspsmallz Ай бұрын

Rg556 is way better to me because of the oled and ergonomics will always matter, so thats a weird take tl hear from a review. Better battery life on the rg556 too, the battery life is awful on the rp4 pro considering its not that much more powerful. The shoulder button issue is also very common on rp4 models even with the fix, so thats another win for the rg556. Last but not least, the rg556 is just way cheaper than the rp4 pro is since you can get it in aliexpress for a third less than the price of an rp4 pro. Good review though even I dont agree with some points.

@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude 2 ай бұрын

Someone needs to make a list of games that are playable on the rp4 pro but not playable on the 556 that will be a short list lmfao and then people would realize extra performance means very litttle when ur limited by emulation advances

@toycoma98 2 ай бұрын

Do you know about the community spreadsheet compatibility list?

@GaudyGabriev02 2 ай бұрын

That depends of emulator , no the device

@brocksters28 Ай бұрын

I just ordered RG566 today..with 256gb 8000 games..its my first handheld emulator..hope its a good choice..

@chrisbenefield9963 Ай бұрын

You’ll love it, just make sure to replace the sd card with a legit one. Cause they go bad often

@ben-tendo 2 ай бұрын

I got the RG556 direct from Anbernic’s AliExpress store for £130 including the case, with free shipping and no additional tax. 🤷🏻‍♂️ That’s without considering OLED, Hall effect sticks, analogue triggers, etc too.

@EliasPfaiffer 2 ай бұрын

130 pfund? never... 266 dollar yea 220 euro yea but one hundred thirty pounds = NEVER EVER!! wake up...

@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude 2 ай бұрын

😂 I got it for 140 on eBay

@EliasPfaiffer 2 ай бұрын

@@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude yea...used , with disgusting leftovers on it :D

@ben-tendo 2 ай бұрын

@@EliasPfaiffera brand new device, already used? 😂

@printerschamp 2 ай бұрын

I was going to get the Odin2, but got a 556 bundle for $100. I couldnt pass it up. I already have a 405M and an Ally, but wanted something better than the 405M and not near as expensive as the Ally. The 556 will probably be my work buddy.

@Dupstan 19 күн бұрын

How and where did you find it for $100? What a great deal!

@bigstabby 2 ай бұрын

Pocketability is the whole point of a handheld. If my system is only going to be played at home, I'm playing on the tv/monitor. Also, the RP4P has a grip that makes it more ergonomic. I much prefer the freedom to go ergo or pocket depending on the circumstance. So pocketability is one thing, but the actual freedom to choose whichbis everything.

@valentin1808 2 ай бұрын

If pocketability is no.1 then get an RG nano.Its great!

@bigstabby 2 ай бұрын

@@valentin1808 Good point! But if between these two, the RP4P.

@alpine0213 2 ай бұрын

I just bought the rg556 for $151 from aliexpress. Also got a Trimui smart pro for $46

@dina.redfield Ай бұрын

Are the games free to download? For the both device?

@joaoflpe Ай бұрын

i mean... you can download for free if you want 😂

@GotloLuna68 14 күн бұрын

Looking to buy the 556. I heard its not worth it to pay extra for the SD card that comes loaded with games and better off to buy my own SD card and just download the emulators and games of my choice.....is this true???? Can anyone help me out with this?!?!?!?

@seanbrent4245 2 ай бұрын

I think the performance difference for the price difference is much better on the RG556, especially cause they go on sale a lot of places and retroid almost never seems to. Plus Amoled screen and better ergonomics

@EXMerser 2 ай бұрын

I ordered the 4Pro because of its compactness and greater power, as well as because of the best fungi. I don't really want to delve into the emulator settings and turn the settings every time to find the missing 5FPS to 30FPS. Moreover, the 4Pro emulates a better Switch.

@rhovenom04 Ай бұрын

I will mainly play ps2 and gamecube games. so which one looks and plays better?

@Techcravers Ай бұрын

The RP4 Pro is better for PS2 and GC (performance wise)

@rhovenom04 Ай бұрын

@@Techcravers omg. finally, a response! thank you! follow up question, when you say better? how? like less stutter? The rg556 has oled right? means its much prettier to look at? So clarify pls

@Techcravers Ай бұрын

@@rhovenom04 All the details are covered in the video. You'll find that what I mean by 'better' is clearly demonstrated in the footage. With the RP4 Pro, achieving full speed at higher resolutions requires less adjustment compared to the RG556. To attain satisfactory speed in PS2/GC games on the RG556, some emulator settings tweaking is necessary, whereas it's notably easier to achieve smooth performance on the RP4 Pro. However, as also highlighted in the video, the RG556 boasts superior screen quality and ergonomic design.

@chrishong800 2 ай бұрын

Glad to see someone that chooses RP4 pro over RG556 finally! Also thank you for your honest review between these two devices. For some we all know that reasons there are quite a lot youtubers that compare them and come out bias conclusions. Obviously You are not one of them. Thanks again,

@AaronThePony 2 ай бұрын

The screen is just so much better on the RG556 though. OLED vs an LCD is no competition.

@Techcravers 2 ай бұрын

Agree on that!

@ajax4801 Ай бұрын

So does the Retroid come with all the games downloaded already?

@MrAndresm900 Ай бұрын

@elemileTLDR 2 ай бұрын

The only reason why I didn't get the RP4 is the D-Pad on top. They market it as an affordable 6th+ gen capable handheld, so I still don't know what were they thinking with that layout. I can only hope for a revision or RP5 to be designed properly.

@suhtangwong 2 ай бұрын

If you get the grip, it's like holding a xbox or ps controller, so the placement makes more sense.

@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude 2 ай бұрын

😂 dude after the grip plus tax plus shipping plus a case plus a charger plus a screen protector plus the grips =pr4 pro $267.83

@driftitlikeyouownit Ай бұрын

I play on my rp4 pro for hours and use the d pad all the time. It works fine. Even when I switch from the D-pad to the joy stick it is seamless like it was meant to work that way.

@uhu4677 Ай бұрын

For me it's exactly the other way around. I would never ever buy a handheld with D-Pad at the bottom. It's almost unusable there. Analogstick at the bottom however is still very usable (on some controllers it's even perfect).

@theflightfile9578 Ай бұрын

Man, I just cant decide between the two.

@xfernandomonteiro Ай бұрын

Simples, pelo que entendi o desempenho no Pocket é melhor, mas a tela é menor, já no 556 o desempenho não é tanto quanto no pocket mas roda e a tela é maior, aí fico em dúvida sobre tela mesmo kk

@shto4782 Ай бұрын

rp4 pro is just too great. Its compact the os is clean without any preinstalled apps and ads, and very good optimized. They fixed ghosting and latency issues with updates. It runs almost any ps2 game, and many android games. I know about a better screen on RG556 and ergonomics but still I would choose rp4 pro. The screen is worse yes, but I don't mind it on a retro handheld, I just don't need the latest and greatest. Maybe this year there will be even better devices out at this price range but for now rp4 pro is best for me

@the.real.Deano. 3 күн бұрын

The low battery issue with the anbernic using the USB c for charging and video is not an issue with a dongle

@Techcravers 2 күн бұрын

It’s an issue if you need a dongle ;)

@the.real.Deano. 2 күн бұрын

@@Techcravers buying a $10 dongle is no more of an issue as buying a $15 grip case is for the retroid

@megaloth1955 2 ай бұрын

The answer is simple: RP4Pro is pocketable, RG556 is not. I don't mean actually walk around with it comfortably in my pocket all day (I have a smartphone for that), I mean 'pocketable' as in: I can quickly shove it down my pocket in a hurry if I need to instead of relying on a case + bag each time

@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude 2 ай бұрын

😂 ever herd of a sweeter jacket or hoody the 556 fits perfectly in my hoody pocket and even jacket pocket easily no issue

@megaloth1955 2 ай бұрын

@@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude 😂 But what if I don't wear a sweater or a jacket with a pocket? Must I? What do I do in the summer?😂 😂 😂 😂 Idiot.

@toycoma98 2 ай бұрын

I agree, I actually take my retroid with me everywhere i go. Fits in my fanny pack. RG556 is a couch device.

@Nanijoe10 Ай бұрын

Definitely going with the RP4P. For the little difference in cost, the amount of power you get is just insane. Retro Game Corps had a video comparing the benchmarks between the two and it almost DOUBLES in performance compared to the RG556. That and the fact that it's still actually pocketable are big wins for me. I think the Anbernic RG556 just goes over that threshold of being portable and not pocketable, which kind of shoots it in the foot for me. At that point, I've got my Steam Deck OLED.

@henrywilliams6927 2 ай бұрын

i love my rp4 pro i take it to work and play it and i love the hdmi out function and jpw well it runs. Im going on a 12 hour drive soon and am looking forward to playing it while we are on the road. I the the 556 would be a better experience for those with bigger hands then me

@Techcravers 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! :)

@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude 2 ай бұрын

You mean the 556 is better for human hands and the rp4 is better for brick squared robot hands

@andreitraistaru73 2 ай бұрын

@chickenmcnugget2537 duhh derpity derp uh-yuck. 🤡

@sven1421 2 ай бұрын

My decision: RG556. RP4Pro had too much issues already to pay 200 or more Euros for it. Plus: I ❤ Amoled.

@Techcravers 2 ай бұрын

I also love amoled. Thanks for sharing! :)

@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude 2 ай бұрын

My rp4 L2 broke off

@akira8-customkeyboards17 Ай бұрын

Retroid pro 4 for performance, beauty, quality plastic, analogic and don't care about ergonmic, with a cheap grip is very good. I don't see so much difference between ips and amoled 1080 maybe in PSP.

@janX9 2 ай бұрын

Retroid is more pocketable. Ergonomics fixed with grip. If i want big, I'll go odin or steam.

@suhtangwong 2 ай бұрын

Rp4 pro ftw!

@ellusion1985 2 ай бұрын

RP4 Pro has an awkward resolution...period.

@PaperB0y91 2 ай бұрын

its the resolution apple used when introduced the iphone 6s Retina display

@user-ki3lu4wm8i 2 ай бұрын

thank you sir

@Viriyamt 28 күн бұрын

In Indonesia rg556 is more expensive than rp 4pro wtf man

@jakesmith5278 2 ай бұрын

It quite simple for me. If you care for the better screen, OLED, buy the Ambernic. If you care for everything else and don't mind paying a little more for a grip, then Retro Pocket wins. The dpad and the thumbsticks kills the Ambernic for me immediately. No competition at all.

@suhtangwong 2 ай бұрын

Same

@ThibaultCabanas 2 ай бұрын

I had the RP3+ with official grip but the annoyance and lose of portability wasn’t worth it for me. Plus the screen size is too small for what it can play, and adding a grip will not solve that. The RG556 is on another league on that regard, with pure zero-concession on comfort.

@pewcfpv8056 2 ай бұрын

Not to mention, the RP4 is much smaller. Almost pocketable.

@MegaVSable 2 ай бұрын

The main selling point for rp4+ is the size. The market for smaller handheld devices always get ignore.

@ThibaultCabanas 2 ай бұрын

@@MegaVSable Sure, but for such size I don't really care about PS2/Gamecube on it, screen is too small, personally I would stick to a RG35xxh. Plus the face buttons were microscopic, glad they made them a bit bigger for the RP4.

@aprichman Ай бұрын

A device like this with terrible controls is stupid, plain and simple. The deadzone on those sticks is awful and you can see how bad it is when you’re playing Wind Waker, where Link immediately snaps to a cardinal direction anytime you move. Screen and ergonomics are great but who cares if the controls suck?

@chrisblumarten 25 күн бұрын

which device are you referring to?

@gm__rock 2 ай бұрын

I choose rp4pro. I want to play games, not settings 😊

@a9udn9u-vanced 25 күн бұрын

Anbernic needs to stop spitting out new devices every week and start to work on their software experience.

@Techcravers 24 күн бұрын

While I sort of agree, it's still nice to know that there is a handheld for everybody!

@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude 2 ай бұрын

😂 i have both and i dont touch the rp4 the damn thing feels like gaming on a peace of wood lol and the screen looks like shit and the screen too tiny to see anything

@toycoma98 2 ай бұрын

RG556 is more of a couch device, I like Retroid because of portability, fits in my fanny pack and I actually take it with me everywhere I go. BTW I only have the RP3+, still deciding if i want to upgrade to RP4P

@BoomerCosmo 2 ай бұрын

Get an Odin 2 😂

@henrywilliams6927 2 ай бұрын

o well if you have an extra 100$ to buy it good for you but why wouldn't i just buy a steam deck then

@EliasPfaiffer 2 ай бұрын

to expensive..

@elemileTLDR 2 ай бұрын

Too big and expensive. Don't want it.

@suhtangwong 2 ай бұрын

It's same price?

@EliasPfaiffer 2 ай бұрын

@@suhtangwong same price? Wake up...

@driftitlikeyouownit Ай бұрын

No retroid actually redesigned thier "blocky" style as my hands are huge and cramped on the retroid 2 but on the RP4 pro it works fine my hands never cramp or hurt. I also have very big hands. The preoid pocket 4 works flawlessly as far as ambernic i might get one just to do it but the retroid 4 pro is the prerfect size. Not too small and not too big.