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RAD2x: ZERO-lag HDMI cables for your Classic Consoles
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Күн бұрынI’m incredibly proud to exclusively unveil the “Retro Analog to Digital 2x” - aka RAD2x cables. These are the first and ONLY plug & play HDMI cables I’d recommend for use with 16 and 32-bit gaming consoles! Get yours here: bit.ly/rad2xhdmi
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There are more RAD2x versions for Genesis, Saturn and PlayStation, as well as a “SNES” version compatible with every console that shipped with a SNES-style multi-out, regardless of mod or region (seriously).
To be honest, I never thought there would be such an easy way to experience classic consoles on flat-screen TV’s without sacrificing part of the gaming experience, but thanks to a partnership between RetroTINK creator Mike Chi and Rob from Retro Gaming Cables, we have just that! Mike has essentially shrunk down his RetroTINK2x into a tiny PCB that allows the 240p RGB output to be doubled to 480p HDMI. This design, combined with Rob’s excellent over-molded, shielded cables, means there’s finally an inexpensive and simple way for people to properly experience classic consoles on flat-screen TV’s!
My goal for this video was to cover as much as I can, in as short a time as possible, as I wanted to spread the word without boring people. I’ll have more videos in the coming weeks that focus on some of the more unique features, as well as compare them to other options and even provide raw capture footage for enthusiasts to check themselves. For now, this “unveiling” should cover enough to get you started.
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@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason the composite n64 video capture look so bad in the video?
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Probably a combination of scaling and the prototype cable. The final product will look exactly like a shielded composite cable through the RetroTINK2x...cause that's essentially what this is :) I'll have a follow-up video with much more detailed comparisons before pre-orders open, so you'll know exactly what to expect with the final production version.
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB Thanks for the clarification. Im looking forward to these more indepth follow up videos👍
@EngieDerek 4 жыл бұрын
The N64 is the worst console to try and make look presentable on a LCD television from all the info I've seen. This looks great compared to the competitors, that being said it's still not totally there. I believe getting an HD mod is your only true way to make this system look as the creators intended.
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
@@EngieDerek Id say svideo linedoubled through a retrotink2x is more than presentable but i understand the n64 doesnt look all that great by default.
@odaddy47 4 жыл бұрын
Ultra HDMI Mod is the way to go.
@bobdotexe 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda wish it also supported s-video for gamecube/non-rgb n64, but it's still very cool!
@Bababaaaa 4 жыл бұрын
That would put it over the top for me. It's a great cable by the looks of it, but s video would be great.
@CAPCOM784 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe they'll make a version 2 adding s-video functionality?
@MisterMorcus 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, S-Video needs to be here.
@sukidable 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was kind of stunned they didn't. Sure it's not as good as RGB but it's a damn sight better than composite. I even noticed that back when I used a CRT. S video is way better for n64.
@mscottjohnson3424 4 жыл бұрын
Your mom looks good in S Video.
@excadrillo99 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that some of the MVPs went and made a more consumer friendly option for people looking for an easy solution! I always hate when retro game stores stock those pound cables, but the price is probably the main driver in that. Hopefully people understand that spending a little more can really make a difference.
@Floydzabarber 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is great, we retro gamers are so lucky to have a channel like this on youtube. Thanks RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@gabrieleriva651 4 жыл бұрын
This will be my Christmas gift to every gaming-lapsed friend I have!
@michaeldraper6642 4 жыл бұрын
There was no warning Bob, this is exactly what I've been waiting for.
@WrestlingWithGaming 4 жыл бұрын
These really look great. Might snag one just to make things a little more convenient when streaming older consoles. Great stuff as usual.
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, a few professional streamers with full rigs have already reached out to get these as their "travel cables". I love the RetroTINk2x, but if I'm only streaming, say, PS1 this weekend and I'm on the go, one cable vs three is WAY easier to carry with me.
@merlingt1 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that these are "dongles" with flexible cables plugging into the console port as opposed to the console butt plugs that have been released lately.
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@fernandocasillasjr 4 жыл бұрын
I legitimately audibly laughed.
@jillhopkins4842 4 жыл бұрын
What an awesome breakthrough by the end of the decade regarding Retro Gaming.
@Paul_Davies77 4 жыл бұрын
Excitedly bought the Pound cable for my Mega Drive and then sent it straight back. Ended up buying the Analogue Mega SG and couldn't be happier
@TobyRieper48 4 жыл бұрын
Dang. These cables rock. I already got my OSSC but this is great for folks without a scaler
@triple_lei 4 жыл бұрын
8:45 Quick 240p/480i switching? Kind of a big deal there....
@Dustin_VG 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, right? That took this from “cool for certain people” to “I may have to pick one up”.
@K3zster 4 жыл бұрын
Interested to know what the deal is here - the OSSC switches pretty fast but only if your TV is able to quickly resync to the timing change. I can't see how this device can do anything that the OSSC doesn't, so I think it's still a YMMV situation.
@harrisontashjian752 4 жыл бұрын
My preferred solution is to use my BVM D9-H5U it only has 450 tvl so the interlacing is not super flickery and I can play in 480p on it
@Numbuh_4WD 4 жыл бұрын
hmm.... the cable outputs in 480p, and switches quickly between resolutions, but always outputs 480p in itself, right? maybe this cable could fix the long wait time for resolution change with framemeister or OSSC.... or did i miss something
@thefifthdoctor6780 Жыл бұрын
Got the rad2x black transparent limited edition for my second Saturn. My main go to is retrotink 5x.
@mrturbo757 10 ай бұрын
That's awesome you were lucky enough to snag two of these! 👀... I've been waiting years and finally was able to secure a pre-order for the next shipment coming this October for the Sega Saturn. I noted in some of the reviews and others have stated that the mini HDMI outlet has issues with whatever adapter you may utilize that can possibly cause interference in video and audio buzz... I'm hoping this has been eliminated in this newest batch, so would you care to comment on the performance and any issues or anything at all with your recent experiences please? Thank you for your time and have a great day! :)
@DaybreakerRein 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking a look at these cables! Informative, and I am glad there is finally a solution that isn't the Pound Cables. Hopefully sharing this around with my friends will get them playing there older systems on modern TVs!
@EmteCoke 4 жыл бұрын
NOW THAT'S A MIC DROP!!! Great video Bob glad there's now a cheap great solution..
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
The only downside is no svideo support. Which means the ntsc n64 and gamecube will default to composite, and i reeaaaally dont wanna give Eon my money for a super64. Guess my retrotink2x will have to do for now.
@bix9757 3 жыл бұрын
Works a charm on gamecube, clear, less fuzzy edges, brighter / sharper colours.
@TKDbruce 4 жыл бұрын
I pre ordered mine today.. it will be here in Canada by mid November. They start shipping the cables out on OCT 31. good price tag on them $80 to the door. Best price I have found so far for what for I want to do. I'm pretty excited
@germanname1990 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, boy am I glad I waited for something like this to finally come up.
@RetroRecollections 4 жыл бұрын
These look like they will be a great solution and the price is pretty reasonable! 👍
@ocanaldomehmeh1893 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the ending actually convinced me to be honest... I hope i wont be wrong.
@SEGAGuys Жыл бұрын
Great video, pre-orders are open again with shipping in December 2022. I just pre-ordered my Saturn RAD2X to replace my (second) Hyperkin.
@FumeiComTV 4 жыл бұрын
This looks like a great product! I just wish you would have shown how the AV Famicom looks using the cable.
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
It'd look exactly like the AV famicom via composite through a RetroTINK. Not great, but perfect if you're just waiting for an RGB mod.
@videogameobsession 4 жыл бұрын
Seems decent for 240p content. I do sort of wish it could output 720p. I think my Samsung HDTVs add extra latency when upscaling from SD to HD video.
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
I've tested about 40 TV's with the Time Sleuth and none took longer to scale 480p than 720p or 1080p (to 4K)...they were identical. Interlaced vs progressive was the only difference....scaling 480i took around five frames longer! So, you shouldn't have an issue with this cable adding lag.
@matthenzel8930 4 жыл бұрын
zaneiken It kind of matters. I definitely prefer the 720p output of my AVS over the 480p of the Wii. While I don't need razor sharp pixels, and even prefer the bit of softness that 720p displays, 480p is a bit softer than I prefer. 720p also works rather well when integer multipliers are factored in. Sure it's nitpicking, but that's sort of what we do when we are striving for minimal increases in visual performance.
@Greenalink 4 жыл бұрын
From what I've read about the lack of Digital Pins on a Sega Saturn for Digital to Digital HDMI mods (UltraHDMI 64 and DCHDMI type) I think this is a must-have purchase for Sega Saturn owners trying to play games with 240p 480i switching.
@jdeluna777 4 жыл бұрын
WONDERFUL product! Great job Mike! Also, thanks again for your incredibly informative videos, Bob! 👍
@genestarwind4610 2 жыл бұрын
The Retro community needs to be ashamed about how low it sub count is on this channel.
@Rumblefan 9 ай бұрын
Your comment just made me hit subscribe, especially since I’ve been getting into video quality lately. I used to just use composite av cables on every console without hdmi. Now I’ve invested in a retrotink and will be getting component and s video cables for my consoles. Also heavily debating a crt, but I don’t really have the room for one any bigger than like a small 13” one
@Bababaaaa 4 жыл бұрын
I would love this for original xbox with support for 480p. That would be amazing.
@LeoA2600 4 жыл бұрын
The Playstation cable doesn't support 480p, so not too useful for the Xbox if they build a Xbox version of this cable. Plus this seems to be purposed with properly upscaling 240p in mind, which is a non-existent resolution for commercial Xbox software. I would love to see a good Xbox HDMI cable though, but the specific capabilities of this cable wouldn't be a good match for the platform.
@Bababaaaa 4 жыл бұрын
The retrotink 2x is a great option, but it does not support 480p, which is a dealbreaker for me personally.
@mohamedhussain532 4 жыл бұрын
I heard of the XOSBP or whatever it's called. A KZfaqr named Modern Vintage Gamer did a review of it.
@lustechsource5197 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great info! I had thought I had lost my NeoGeo collection, but found it while going through my parents storage during my Christmas visit. The only major issue was the RF cable. I know, I know! It was all I had and ignorant high school me still loved it! Anyway, I remembered this video and checked to see if there was a NeoGeo version of the cable. And there is! All that's left is to wait for the cables to ship. Thanks again!
@nevermind824 4 жыл бұрын
You'll be amazed at the picture difference you never saw before
@kjkj968 3 жыл бұрын
One error is the rad2x for the saturn requires usb power for model1 but not model 2.
@Burb__ 4 жыл бұрын
Looks great for the price. But, in all of the examples where the RAD2X was tested, I see black pixels (looks like 2x1 pixels in size) popping up at a random location of the screen, only to disappear a frame or two later. This happened on the SNES, Genesis, SMS, Saturn and N64 and you can clearly see it in the bright areas of the game capture. Since it happened in all the tests, it can't be the console output. This would bother me a lot, despite the otherwise clear picture..
@josko50 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, huh. I see them too. Maybe it had something to do with the encoding or capture?
@bradriley9777 4 жыл бұрын
I was really surprised that Bob didn't mention this, or the flickering(?) in solid colors.
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Uncompressed, un-altered captures will be posted in the next video. Not sure what those are, but my first thought it always YT compression.
@Toyaddict81 4 жыл бұрын
Bob is the man!! This RDA2x has a de-interlacing feature named after the man himself!! 09:27
@pwnswoggle 4 жыл бұрын
Nice touch using the rad racer attract screen for the rad2x review :)
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
LOL, I wasted so much time making that! Worth it :)
@pwnswoggle 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB lol I enjoyed it, definitely worth it!
@user-zo9dc1lu3q 4 жыл бұрын
I have a bunch of consoles connected via composit video cable to my proiector. This series of cables can change my "blurry" situation. THANKS !!!
@Demokirby 4 жыл бұрын
Oh shit at that mic drop. This is such a cool product.
@Chocoburger 4 жыл бұрын
While this product looks pretty good (though it really should have 480p support so you don't have to switch PS2 cables), I'm so glad I have 5 large CRTs (2 max out at S-video and 3 support component) so I never need to deal with modern TV issues. HD Retrovision component cables and I'm set! Plus the awesome bonus to play plenty of great light gun shooters!
@UkraineJames2000 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your work over the years, Bob. Great video.
@emmettturner9452 4 жыл бұрын
Finally! This is truly exciting. Been expecting something like this. Video is still playing ads. I assume this is based on the same tech as RetroTink 2X?
@emmettturner9452 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see that it is! I can see this having a huge effect on demand for UltraHDMI. Even though I sell UltraHDMI, I'm glad there's finally an alternative under $100 which I can recommend. Thanks for letting us know, Bob!
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Well, UltraHDMI is better in every possible way, except two: You'll actually be able to buy this and you don't have to install it. That's a big deal for some, but if you can mod (and find an UltraHDMI), then absolutely do that instead. No disrespect meant to the RAD2x, it's just a fair opinion.
@emmettturner9452 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB A lot of people contact me to ask about UltraHDMI when they hear about the group buy and I'm the first to admit that it isn't worth it for everyone. I like to list alternatives along with typical prices, strengths, and weaknesses to avoid any kind of buyer's remorse. RetroTink 2X and these cables have one more big advantage than the ones you mention: UltraHDMI makes no attempt to de-interlace 480i. It just pipes out that 480i image as 480p or scales the interlaced frame as progressive to 720p/1080p, complete with interlacing artifacts. A digital display will also make no attempt to de-interlace with any of those resolutions, since it's technically a progressive frame of interlacing artifacts by that point. Granted, the N64 is primarily 240p and it's barely noticeable in 480i menus but the combing in a 480i game can be pretty distracting. Not with these!
@swungsolid 4 жыл бұрын
Emmett Turner sounds like they need to re-make/improve the ultra hdmi mod to do bob-deinterlacing. An hdmi mod that cost $400 for n64 that doesn’t de-interface is kinda stupid. But hey if there isn’t many games that output 480i on it I guess stick with the ultra hdmi mod?
@swungsolid 4 жыл бұрын
Emmett Turner what route would you go?
@danielblack6529 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, Bob! Very beginner friendly! This Cable is definitely the long awaited cheap and good solution for people that are not too involved in this scene and don't want an expensive and complicated setup (yet). I do have one little gripe though: the Composite Video capture. It's unusually dark and very saturated. Is that because of the cable or just your particular N64 that you were using for capture?
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's a combination of processing and the prototype's firmware. We were concentrating all our efforts on the RGB auto-detection and weren't really paying attention to composite quality. The final product will look just like shielded composite through the TINK2x though...which is shockingly good on the N64.
@danielblack6529 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB Ok, thanks!
@GameplayandTalk 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, that Nintendo support is *huge*. Love the mentioning of the much more expensive Eon cable--there was little reason to invest in one of those to begin with, but this new Rad2X cable now makes it 100% redundant.
@GameplayandTalk 4 жыл бұрын
@@SDMasterYoda In general, yes, S-Video is considerably better than composite. However, given the Nintendo 64's filtered/soft look across the majority of its library, the difference isn't as drastic as it may be with other consoles. Of course, if someone wants to drop the $150 on the Eon device, they are by all means free to spring for it. I don't think they will be getting an extra $100 in value over the Rad2X, but it's their money to throw away if they want.
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
@Gameplay and Talk - Yes, exactly.
@bryanjones0185 3 жыл бұрын
I guess I should look into buying a rad2x for my genesis 3. I bought a pound cable (returning it) and my Tv didn't seem to want to process the signal correctly. Same with the hd retrovision equivelant component cable made my retro gaming cables for my model 1 genesis (which I sold last month). Both consoles looked like a worn VHS tape film with flickering and jittering.
@importaku 4 жыл бұрын
ps1 cable is a gamechanger as my framemeister is garbage at resolution switching, playing pop n music on it is impossible as by the time the game switches from the music selection screen to the start of the song the resolution switch on the meister is happening so slow that the song is already playing and i have missed loads of notes by the time the picture comes back.
@NicB-Creations 4 жыл бұрын
Getting this for my SNES!
@rodmunch69 4 жыл бұрын
People complain way too much about the Pound cables. I don't know about the SNES one, but I have one for the Dreamcast and Sega Genesis and I think they look really good. Yes, I have a scart cable solution going to a PVM as well, so I know it can look better, but it doesn't look that much better. The Pound cable for the Genesis in particular looks really good going to my 34" monitor, there's no noticeable lag that I can detect and the picture is quite sharp. If I wasn't sitting 2 ft from the screen, but instead pumping it out to my 55" TV that is 10ft away, I don't think I'd notice any issues. For the Dreamcast the situation is nearly the same just with a slightly softer image. These cables are $30, plug and play, and you're set. I haven't had the issues with a darker than expected picture on the Saturn or Genesis. With that said since I had that much luck I got the XBOX pound cable as well as I got a new TV and the a-holes took out the component video input. For the XBOX, and that one alone, it turned out there was a lot of analog noise in the signal - something I didn't have an issue with on the Dreamcast or Genesis pound cables. So maybe I got a bad one, or maybe those Pound cables work well with the Sega RGB output but not with other systems. I went ahead and returned the XBOX cable. But in any case, if you just want a simple and cheap plug in play solution then just pick up a Pound cable for $30 - at least for the Sega systems.
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Please stop telling people to buy Pound cables. They're garbage and people who spread misinformation that they're "fine" are WHY these crappy cables get bought. I'm finishing a video that will go live soon that explains all of this. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
@MGSBigBoss77 4 жыл бұрын
Take it easy man, Pound cables came out when there wasn't any HD upscalers available so Pound cornered the market for making HDMI upscalers. For retro consoles at large. Rod Munch cannot be blamed if Pound are the commercial product which is mostly known out there and is available for purchase more readily can he? If you want RAD2x cables to takeover then it better be a product thats backed by rich investors who'll bank alot of money and support so RAD2x takes Pound technology's spot for retro console HD cables then! Let's just remember that the most technologically sound piece of technology doesn't always win the attention of consumers alright Betamax Vs VHS tape of the 1980's. i.e. Betamax was superior but lost that consumer war. And the later; HD-DVD Vs Blu-ray (many claimed that HD DVD was actually better?) of the early to mid 2000's. and we're using Blu-rays today aren't we. Pound may not technology be the best tech far as the HD cable thing goes? but it is what alot of gamers are currently using however, there's no crime in that is there. Sure i'll go for this Rad2x cable when there's one for the Sega Saturn and European Megadrive/Genesis. But its gotta be made far more available however alright!
@rodmunch69 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB That is absolutely not my experience with the cables - at least for the Genesis and Dreamcast. Now with the XBOX that was the case. I don't know if it's poor quality control or not - but the Genesis cable, in particular, everything looks and runs fantastic.
@rodmunch69 4 жыл бұрын
@@MGSBigBoss77 But my point is my experience with the Pound cables is not what he showed. I'm not a complete noob at this and I find them to be completely acceptable for their price - at least 2 of the 3 Pound cables I used this was the case. As said above the XBOX pound cable for me was not good - it had a ton of analog noise in it - but I tried it out since I was impressed with the Genesis cable in particular (and the Dreamcast cable, while a little soft, still looked way better than I had ever seen it since I never had a VGA box). Yes, there are better solutions, but for the money, these cables will make games look better than 99% of the American audience has ever seen, at least on the Genesis and Dreamcast. Almost no one here ever saw the RGB or VGA output on those systems - so if that's where you're coming from they look amazing.
@scottwilliamclarke6442 2 жыл бұрын
I will be ordering this as the last of my Hyperkin adapters has broken - hopefully an Amiga and also a PSP (Maybe too Atari and 8 bit Commodore too) version will come in the future! Keep up the great work :)
@scottwilliamclarke6442 2 жыл бұрын
My two megadrive RAD2X on there way :) Tomcat Alley in all it's glory soon!
@emmettturner9452 4 жыл бұрын
Woah, that N64 composite capture is WAY off. Why is it so... red?
@pokepress 4 жыл бұрын
Emmett Turner yeah, it looks dark and oversaturated.
@emmettturner9452 4 жыл бұрын
@@nickwallette6201 LOL! ...but seriously: I've installed hundreds of UltraHDMI kits into NTSC consoles and testing with composite is part of my workflow. There is something drastically wrong with what we are seeing here. It's abnormal even for NTSC composite on N64.
@Sirotaca 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Shouldn't be an issue with the chipset either, since composite looks fine through the RetroTINK-2X. Wonder what's going on with that. Also curious about the black speckles that you can see occasionally in all the captures.
@emmettturner9452 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sirotaca I need to look again but if it's what I think it is: The N64 RCP (GPU) actually renders with little single-pixel holes all over everything but a final stage in the RCP render path tries to detect these holes and fill them in using surrounding pixel data. It doesn't get nearly all of them so you see black flecks appearing on a lot of stuff. Still looks far more stable than PSX with all the texture warping. ;)
@Sirotaca 4 жыл бұрын
@@emmettturner9452 It's definitely not just that, since it's visible in at least the SNES and Genesis captures as well.
@simbin. 4 жыл бұрын
Happy to see a solution for the masses.. that isn't crap! I'ma keep chasin the perfect signalz ':-]
@ZBR_ProXP 4 жыл бұрын
love the Remute track in the background
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Me too! SO NICE of him to let me use his amazing music!
@EmoKillsBest 4 жыл бұрын
I'm very excited about these cables. I enjoy playing my retro systems on my flat screen but I always ended up having a jumble of cables with a converter jammed in between. This is a straight forward easy plug and play solution, that is totally worth the $50.
@johnwinzer5576 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video Bob!! WATCH OUT THOUGH! I best stupid EON is going to just copy these and just reshell them, then up the price to $150 like they do with every product they sell. Mike Chi REALLY has to pursue legal action against stupid EON.
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Chi invents new retro gaming device. Eon: *its free real estate* 😏
@BarnyardCasanova 4 жыл бұрын
Now this I could get behind.
@Reformed_Borzoi 4 жыл бұрын
Just like me and your mom
@BarnyardCasanova 4 жыл бұрын
@@Reformed_Borzoi Nice.
@Reformed_Borzoi 4 жыл бұрын
@@BarnyardCasanova D
@meriotroid 4 жыл бұрын
super informative video! I'll definitely be preordering this thing
@MrMegaManFan 4 жыл бұрын
Damn! Where has THIS product been all my life??
@orbitingdecay6797 3 жыл бұрын
I have that mug , I love it and the Pipe one too.
@SmokeMonster 4 жыл бұрын
Rad!
@bobdotexe 4 жыл бұрын
2x
@Deutschland01 4 жыл бұрын
I need this for my NEO GEO!
@ZombieTechie 4 жыл бұрын
This channel and my life in gaming are amazing. This video makes the Nintendo RAD2x seem better than the Eon Super 64. That i disagree with. It should be noted that without an internal mod, the Eon Super 64 is a better plug and play solution (in picture quality than price) because it upscales an S-video signal, whereas the RAD2x only does composite unless the console has been modded.
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
I'll have a follow-up video that focuses on the Super64 vs RAD2x. I think you'll be surprised at the real-world differences. I should be done a week or so from now.
@ZombieTechie 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB thanks for the info. I initially ordered the rad2x and didnt realize at first it lacked s-video. I have a tim worthington board that i never had installed so I'll probably go that route instead. I've always wanted to see that board with an ossc vs an hdmi mod. There must not be many in the the wild.
@buggs9950 4 жыл бұрын
It's worth pointing out that in europe we almost always have component and RGB over scart inputs on modern TV's. This doesn't mean you don't have to consider lag but it does mean you don't necessarily have to tit about with hdmi converters.
@djopulence 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the “My Life in Gaming” review.
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with this one?
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB lol
@djopulence 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB Nothing. I just would like their (additional) take on it.
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
And you don't think it's rude to comment on a video I just spent weeks on that you'd like to see another? KZfaq comments baffle me.
@djopulence 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB no, and you're going to get more views for it. this is a great product--a game changer. you're going to get praised for it. ever heard of a second opinion? sheesh.
@KreepaEvoX 4 жыл бұрын
In for the saturn version
@1chiTheKiller 4 жыл бұрын
I'd seen these cables before but didn't know anything about them. They look like a fantastic solution at a totally decent price. Also, has anyone noticed how his video and audio are not perfectly synced up? Every time he's on screen the audio is off and it drives me crazy, but the info is so helpful, I'm gonna keep watching. Hopefully he can figure that out. :)
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
It's so weird - Some people say it's perfect and others have trouble with the video sync. The file on my hard drive is perfect. I wonder what's happening...
@abletothink 4 жыл бұрын
I'm probably going to get the PS1 version because of that 240p to 480i switching. Wish I could get it now because I want to play Silent Hill this October but looks like I'm going to play it on my PS3 which sucks.
@disruptfam 4 жыл бұрын
Wait so i can use these with my pal gamecube and it uses rbg natively?
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@danielbirchal 4 жыл бұрын
There's no Genesis 1 version?
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
There will be, but for now you can just get one this to use with it: www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/32X-PATCH-CABLE-WITH-FEMALE-9-PIN-DIN?tracking=5543fb4c077bb
@AlaskaPersonalTrainingOnline 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB Thanks for the quick reply to this. Has the team mentioned any ETA for the Genesis model 1 cable, by any chance?
@gjk2012 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB I have the Sega Genesis 1 with an 8 pin. Will the 8 pin be available?
@kylesaver167 4 жыл бұрын
well I'm sold, can't wait for them to be available for my RGB modded N64
@andreg3912 4 жыл бұрын
The cable looks really interesting, but the video feels more like a retro gaming cables commercial than a product review.
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
So, I shouldn't get excited when I like a product?
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
Thats why there will be more in depth follow up videos. If anything this was more of an unveiling and Bob is clearly proud of what Mike and Retro Gaming Cables have come up with.
@andreg3912 Жыл бұрын
I was skeptical at first but after using a RAD2x for 6 month now I'm really happy with it.
@EposVox 4 жыл бұрын
WOAH
@ralphbrown1814 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any reason to get these if I already have a retrotink 2x?
@bluecollargamer7071 4 жыл бұрын
Probably not.
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
@@bluecollargamer7071 If you want to simplify your cable management for a single console. Like im constantly swapping out my snes and n64 with the retrotink2x. If i got one of these for my snes then i can just leave my n64 svideo cable in my retrotink2x and just forget about it.
@ralphbrown1814 4 жыл бұрын
@@ians_parks You could always get an svideo switch which would also solve your problem.
@jamon1567 4 жыл бұрын
The tink 2x doesn't take RGB right? This will pull RGB from a stock SNES and Genesis.
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamon1567 the retrotink2x accepts comp, svideo, and component. Hd retrovision makes component cables for snes and genesis that essentially convert the raw rgb signal to YPbPr so that they can be used with the retrotink2x and any monitor that has component inputs.
@voltz15 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam! Your fav RGB scaler was labled "JUNK", Ha-Ha!
@fweefwames 4 жыл бұрын
Finally and ad that I don't regret watching
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Um, was that some kind of passive-aggressive dig? This isn't an "ad", this is a review of a product i'm excited about. I don't get paid to make these.
@fweefwames 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB it came up as an ad in my suggestive videos dude you paid for it to be and ad stop playing dumb lmao
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Oh!!!!! LOL, I'm so sorry!!! Yeah, I spent about 50 hours making that video, so I wanted to promote it. My bad...I'm just so used to people coming in hard: "Hey asshole, you were obviously paid to make that video! The pound cables are exactly the same and you're lying!" Sorry, I try my best to reply positively, but I'm just used to getting shit on :)
@fweefwames 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB it is the internet so i do not blame you love the product btw lol
@JJernqvist 4 жыл бұрын
The N64 composite looks very dark and overly saturated, way more than on a CRT.
@Toyaddict81 4 жыл бұрын
Johan Jernqvist I thought the same...
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
Bob claims this not to be final. Its simply protoype footage and they were more concerned with the rgb footage than composite at the time. The final product should look identical to a properly shielded composite cable.
@JJernqvist 4 жыл бұрын
@@ians_parks Okay, good to know then! I might actually buy this. :)
@HEADRUSH444 4 жыл бұрын
Good thing influencers will keep shilling EON and Pound garbage. Hope those cables will make it big. Not switching from my (RGC) RGB-SCART cables + OSSC anytime soon but that multi-out cable is mighty tempting! Maybe as a present?
@Inv8erZlM 4 жыл бұрын
I would tell people considering the retrotink2x to save up for an OSSC since they care enough to spend some real money. At this price that changes! This looks like an actual middle ground.
@RetroSho 4 жыл бұрын
Good enough for even just N64. Gonnd pick up one for that alone!
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
N64 looks great. I'm having two more videos in the next month that feature RAD2x footage. You'll be happy with your purchase.
@RetroSho 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB Word! Can't wait for that video! Thanks for putting them out there for this product; you're selling and promoting it very well.
@biscuitsngravy3566 4 жыл бұрын
Is there ANY WAY that the genesis 2 cable would support 32x CD and Saturn??? That would be AMAZING!!! ( For me at least)
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
32x yes, saturn no
@Inv8erZlM 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason S-Video had to be left out?
@Latin00032 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh! Wash the stainless steel siding of the garbage can.
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
LOL, it legit didn't look like that in person. The friggin camera picks up EVERYTHING.
@iCach0 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice! I'm glad there's finally a solution like this. The only thing I didn't like about them is that they seem to use mini-HDMI connectors, which I loathe.
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
More room on the board i guess. This is by Mike Chi afterall, the retrotink2x also used mini hdmi.
@ZewingFZC 4 жыл бұрын
Freaking awesome I'll definitely need to pick some of these up, can't beat cost efficient hdmi solutions
@InvictvsNox 4 жыл бұрын
"just designed to take your money" EON btfo lmao
@flow221 4 жыл бұрын
Only seller is in the UK? Urgh.
@mrmaestrom 4 жыл бұрын
That's better than if the only seller were in the US. International postage costs are insane from the USA.
@flow221 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrmaestrom Not better for me.
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Shipping's cheap enough that it won't be much different than a US store. Anyone that's bought from RGC before knows the shipping is good.
@dionr1168 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB Would any additional customs taxes be an issue?
@80sretrogamergamingarchive90 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 4K tv a master system and megadrive both using s video I have not had one problem and never have needed any other device
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
That's nice
@SigmaShawn 4 жыл бұрын
I think this may be my solution for Genesis output, hopefully there isn't video noise when using these devices like there is with the retrotink2x.
@Inv8erZlM 4 жыл бұрын
This is a retrotink2x built into a cable. It does have the benefit of supporting RGB, though.
@davidlee1980 4 жыл бұрын
I have interference noise with my Retrotink 2X. I agree that hopefully that is fixed. This would be an amazing solution for a lot of people.
@Inv8erZlM 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidlee1980 Are you using S-Video, component, or composite?
@davidlee1980 4 жыл бұрын
@@Inv8erZlM I've never tried composite, but I get it on S-Video (Sega Saturn, at the time) and Component ( just yesterday, I was trying to use it again, HDRetrovision Genesis cable with a Neo Geo adapter). It's a faint diagonal noise only really visible under certain colors. I've also tried multiple power adapters to see if that was the issue. I bought my Tink in January, 2019.
@davidlee1980 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a nerd for this stuff, so I also have a Framemeister and OSSC (multiple setups) and they don't have this issue, even with barrel to USB connectors with the same power supply.
@BennyBsolo 4 жыл бұрын
This is definitely RAD !
@Momo4060i 9 ай бұрын
So, is the picture quality for ps1 pretty much the same as if you use a ps3 to play ps1 games on a modern tv?
@chadballew 4 жыл бұрын
FINALLY someone got it right?
@Theninjagecko 4 жыл бұрын
Almost. If it supported 480p and have a scanline overlay option it would have been godly.
@Olie956 4 жыл бұрын
8:32 - Bob... That is a huge deal. Why aren't you overwrought about this!? Hahaha
@LaskyLabs 4 жыл бұрын
I really need to triple bypass my Genesis 2 I use HD retrovision on my CRT. Looks lovely, it was probabaly one of the last consumer CRT displays, flat screened and very sharp.
@marymarshall8847 4 жыл бұрын
nice .Thanx for the video Bob
@MobileDecay 4 жыл бұрын
Is that a Rust in peace guitar in the background?
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! It's fully customized and one of my favorite guitars!
@MobileDecay 4 жыл бұрын
RetroRGB Awesome! I have the end game one but always wanted rust in peace or peace sells model!
@kramerdesign9443 4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! Picking up the Saturn version *immediately*
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Pre-orders for the Saturn version aren't live yet. Should be next month.
@kramerdesign9443 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB I'll only have the $50 next month, perfect timing! KA-CHING
@Walaoumpa 4 жыл бұрын
Learned about this after getting a retrotink 2x and high quality s-video cables for my Saturn and N64, so probably won't need these. That said - I would have jumped on these if I did not have my current setup. There's even an argument on getting a Saturn cable because of RGB + simplifying cable management but that will be for a later day.
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. I already have a retrotink2x but its still worth looking into atleast for cable managment.
@Walaoumpa 4 жыл бұрын
@@ians_parks It all adds up though and unlike other parts of the retro gaming setup, not easy to recover money back. Especially for a little bit of convinience on just 2 systems (just having a cable tie and swapping is a minor inconvienience - having RGB on Saturn is a plus for sure). Glad the money I spent so far went into good sources (custom handmade s-video cables from Poland + Retrotink).
@cybernitemusic 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I would have loved one of these when starting out. I’ve gone down the rgb rabbit hole though but glad others might not have to!
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, these aren't for people with full RGB (or component) OSSC setups. Great for beginners though!
@orangezombies 4 жыл бұрын
🙌 thank you for this video! So much good information in the sea of nonsense out there.
@tuxedo_mask23 3 жыл бұрын
So I've finally got one for my Saturn!
@RobNoireGaming 4 жыл бұрын
These look interesting, will probably pick up a few for comparison tests. I don't think it's fair to say that all the other plug'n'play cables are just there to take your money though. They are pretty crappy, but they were there to fill a need that nobody else was catering to at the time (easy & affordable hdmi solutions for retro consoles)..
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
It's both fair and accurate. That company knew what they were releasing and didn't care.
@cyo_corner 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do a side-by-side of the ultraHDMI and RGBmodded N64 with etim's RGB mod+rad2x? I'm at a stand still at what to mod into my n64
@RexBuyeo 4 жыл бұрын
Since I'm a Sega guy, I'm sold on these. I pray that Nintendo enthusiasts will be able to purchase a newer version that can give the option of s-video if no RGB is found.
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Why S-Video though? I'm not being sarcastic, I honestly don't get it. GameCube has the Carby and N64 has RGB mods, so what would S-Video offer? Also, on N64, composite and S-Video are pretty similar.
@kelvsyc8676 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB There is an audience for playing on unmodified consoles, for one. A Carby won't help you if all you have is a DOL-101, and the video makes it look like RAD2x is noticeably worse compared to S-Video cables and a RetroTINK 2x, which is more than double the price.
@RexBuyeo 4 жыл бұрын
It really surprises that someone like you is telling people to not use the best possible analog signal available to them. Not everyone can afford or are willing to spend the money for those things. N64 S-video is not too much better but you might as well be getting the best possible picture $50 can get you. Gamecube Composite and S-video are night and day. Makes a huge difference in especially in games like Baten Katos, and this is with the supposedly bad $15 universal S-video cables from game stop. Either way, this is a good product and I hope enough modded N64 owners purchase this for a V2.
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB There are tons of people who are too hesitant to install or pay for an rgb mod. Regardless how much of a difference svideo is over composite it still looks better and people are still going to prefer it.
@billyg.477 3 жыл бұрын
i have a Genesis clone, is there any cable that works with it?
@retrograded9184 4 жыл бұрын
Haha. We have the same TV. Wish there was a Dreamcast option. Guess I'm sticking with the OSSC; which works great with LG TVs I should add.
@GameStartXbox 4 жыл бұрын
Hello good job, I have received a Pound cable today for my sega saturn the Picture quality and sound is good, but the lag is very High in Both TV 4k qled 7 and Also in my asus monitor
@nextlevelgamez9243 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Thanks!
@videogameobsession 4 жыл бұрын
10:47 It looks like this might have the same problem which I experienced with the XAgent cables I've recently tested. The video is VERY dark. Crushing blacks and no way to adjust it through the display without getting a washed out looking contrast.
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
Bob claims this to be prototype footage and not at all final. They were more conscerned with getting clean rgb footage and that the final product's composite footage should look identical to properly shielded composite cables.
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