Carnival Night and Launch Base themes are pretty fine, but Ice Cap hurts a lot…

What's baffling about the origins tracks are how muddled they are compared to the stock prototype tracks. It's not even a matter of whether or not the music is any good, I just don't understand how they used such low quality music?

it's a pity that such gorgeous ice cap music was removed😢

The classic songs are much more of a banger, but Carnival Night Act 2 Prototype hits different….

Sonic 3: 🤠 Prototype: 😄 Sonic Origins: 💀

For those who said that Carnival Night sounds like clown music in OG Sonic 3, what's that big tent in the middle of a carnival? A fucking circus. And what's everyone's favourite part of a circus? Clowns.

A lot of people like the OG with MJ's touch on music, but I don't care what they say about Carnival Night. MJ made the song as silly as it was to fit the stage perfectly in my eyes, the amount of struggles to get through the stage itself as it plays with you fits just right. Also, *"Red barrels"*

Messing with this kind of thing, and not allowing you to choose between these in the game settings.. is just a major off-putting factor to be honest

I had heard that for Origins they were based specifically on the MIDI versions from Sonic & Knuckles Collection for PC.

Such a fantastic comparison video, really gives people the power to decide for themselves just how they like their S3, and really puts the legacy of this nugget of Sonic trivia in perspective.

Replacing Ice Cap is super weird to me. I always felt that track was one of the most iconic ones in the classic games, not having it is kind of saddening.

Even as a kid I heard that “go go!” And I was like Michael Jackson definitely did the music no question. Too bad we can’t have it now it’s all really silly that we don’t.

Even though this should’ve been a home run, Sega finds yet another way to ruin it all again.

Noooo, Ice Cap noooo, la canción de Ice Cap marco mi infancia, duele bastante que la hayan quitado.

Carnival night (original) sounds like you're on a ride but carnival night (sonic origins) sounds like you're walking around waiting for one

I was honestly expecting these tracks to sound the same as the original game, but they sound pretty different after all.

Having played the original game, hearing it with this prototype music deflates the game somewhat.

All these songs feel like bonus level music, they need the originals back lol

I am kind of torn. I like both soundtracks. But MJ's music is much more detailed and musical. And really very enjoyable too. Though I must say I prefer the prototype for Carnival stage.

Final version:i love you m.j Prototype version:oh thats cool Origins version:MY EARS

Michael Jackson and Prototype soundtrack way better than Origins soundtrack.

Origins.... Without the original music. Huh... 😢

Ice cap zone is the saddest for me, It was my favorite Sonic 3 song, so sad it got remixed Rip ice cap original version, you will be missed by me

The prototype versions are so good! All of them could have been used as tracks from the competition mode. Shame what we got as "finished" versions in Origins.

I prefer the original Ice Cap The original Carnival Night and both the prototype and original Launch Base

Ica Cap zone forever my #1 Sonic theme. No way I'll play the zone without the original music.

So here's my theory. Apparently Jun Senoue was suppose to make a rearrangement of the original prototype tracks and what we here of them is the shittily-quality synths that sound like they were based off of the PC counterparts. HOWEVER, there is possible evidence that these tracks that are "rearranged" were actually TAKEN from an even EARLIER version of Sonic 3. Earlier than the Nov. 93 build. I'm basing this theory off of what Mastered Realm claimed. The thought goes like this. The reason why it sounds more like the PC version is likely that the PC version tracks are based on the earliest iteration of the soundtrack (possibly being straight up sampled from the actual demos), but the November 1993 prototype was the ARRANGED version of the original demos while the ones used in Origins were coming from a earlier prototype that was using the melody from the earliest iteration. This would explain why the rips are of poorer quality. But unless there's further proof dictating this, take all of this with a grain of salt.

I have a Question : Why did SEGA replace Michael Jackson's Music here and not in the Previous Sonic Cellections (And no S&K Collection doesn't count) ???????????????

I always thought that Launch Base was a deforested site plan with the launch base. It's like the Amazon forest nowadays, barren, cut down, and destroyed because of Eggman's ambition and greed. I now know that it's a canyon, but the idea still fits.

Part of the issue with the Sonic Origins versions is the game doesn't play them properly. The audio files that come with the game sound better when played with any other music player: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pM2pZK1_ysmdoKM.html, which is a big improvement over how it sounds in the game especially with headphones. While it is still quite different from the prototype version (and it's also not based on the PC midis), I find it much more accurate to the intent of the zones than what plays in the game. Hopefully they at least fix the audio processing as part of the upcoming bug fixes.

Why would Jun choose the MIDI tracks of all tracks? Was the Genesis to good for him?

Ok, I'm just gonna state my opinion on these Sonic Origins, Prototype and Original/Final. Carnival Night Zone - The original/final sounds really groovy, nostalgic, and classy for a Carnival based zone. The prototype on both acts sounds really good, sounds banger, and sound so enjoyable, but act 2 syncs when you're going fast into those tubes thingy, the Origins act 1 sounds so horrible, sounds creepy, and sounds like you're in an abandoned carnival at night, but act 2 sounds the same as prototype, but the instrumentations sounds almost bad, except for arrangements of those instrumentals. Ice Cap Zone - Both acts on original/final sounds great, and sounds chilling, it's even more Nostalgic too if you ask many older sonic fans. Both acts on Prototype and Origins sounds more fitting for the zone, it even syncs when you grab the snowboard, no cap. Launch Base Zone - In original/final is actually feeling groovy, and also sounded good on both acts. In Prototype, act 1 sounds like you're marching with the soldiers in a marching band, act 2 sounds like you're almost going into the rocket ship, like astronauts. In Origins, act 1 feels like you're marching with dying soldiers after a soul crushing, mind twisting and traumatic battle against Vietnamese soldiers, only if they raised the pitch of those instrumentations, act 2 feels the same as prototype one. That's all for my opinions, if I was wrong, tell me in the replies.

Launch Base 1 Prototype/Origins sounds like Pokémon music, like you're about to meet the Elite Four or something. It sounds very similar to an existing Pokémon tune.

8:01 Look how the massacred my boy!

Mj and prototype are the best ❤️❤️❤️

I wish on icecap act 1 they didn't return to prototype for origins, I find having the soundtrack sound like hard times is great!

Back when this young boy as a sonic fan, the music was fine. Everybody agrees, carnival music is cool to change, but removing carnival for the other classic songs, hell no. Other than that, the new carnival music, sounds like the multiplayer stages on sonic 3. The multiplayer music from sonic 2 and sonic 3 was pretty dope too

The only mine I can stand is carnival night zone. It no longer feels like it’s laughing at me lmao

Still love the original music from the Genesis days. I mean it's mostly personal for me. I love OG Ice Cap Zone because there is this feeling of melancholy but more fast-paced and OG Launch Base Zone has that urgent sort-of dread feel to it. But I got to say, I'm liking the new Carnival Zone music. The new Ice Cap Zone and Launch Base Zone music are good but does not quite capture the overall feeling for me.

They also used the prototype music on Sonic and Knuckles Collection for PC.

They could at least add Carnival Night Zone act 1 ost from sonic 3 prototype but Sega REALLY fucked up the act 1 song and instead added the act 1 song from the PC version of Sonic & Knuckles collection,but the beat still drops like its decent..

"Tails, you're screwing up the lift timing! You can FLY, remember???"

The new music for Origins just doesn't fit with the zones. The prototype music goes more in for style on what these zones represent

With the amount of ways you can play this game in its original form (or with updated movesets and such) still keeping the music in tact, there’s very little reason for anyone to buy Origins.

I like the prototype tracks, but they just messed them up in origins. I would have liked better the original prototype tracks than the S&K Collection with that instrumentation

WTF ?! Prototype versions would have been more acceptable than the one remastered ?!?! Of course Michael’s are the best and iconics.

if we had mastered realm's reamsters we would have so much less controversy

Original ice cap act 2 music's makes me happy

One thing is that the ice cap proto and the origins one are the same, but the origins is remastered I think.

These are on par with when they did Resident Evil Director's cut and the mansion basement music. Hopefully one day, they can update it for us to choose what BGM plays on these stages.

Imagine, they refused to sort out the copyright details for using the original soundtrack as an option for Sonic 3 and Knuckles. Sad

That was awesome

I don’t know why I put an origins version sounds better than the prototype version

I’ve said it before but if they absolutely have to get rid of some of the tracks I’m fine with the prototype versions. But origins decided to fix what isn’t broken and just made worse versions of them. Which is a shame cus I think I actually prefer prototype carnival night over the one in the original I’ve cap is… fine but the original wins there And launch base, man I love me some launch base and the prototype is pretty good too. But origins, man.

Ice cap zone is not the same without its original music. (I prefer Ice cap zone act 2 over 1.)

Origins Carnival Night Act 2 is a banger. Tbh I always thought the MJ Act 2 tracks were a bit lazy, basically just the same as Act 1 while dropping random individual tracks in and out.

My Votes For What Is Best: Carnival Night: 1st). Prototype 2nd). Jackson’s 3rd). Origins 4th). PC Collection Ice Cap: 1st). Jackson’s 2nd). Prototype 3rd). Origins 4th). PC Collection Launch Base: 1st). Prototype 2nd). Jackson’s 3rd). Origins 4th). PC Collection Knuckles’ Theme (These are all pretty good to be fair): 1st). Sonic & Knuckles 2nd). Jackson’s 3rd). Prototype 4th). PC Collection Super Sonic: 1st). Prototype 2nd). 1994 Original 3rd). Origins

i love both launch base act 2's BOTH original and proto music!

I prefer MJ's version of Ice Cap,but in my opinion, the prototype version of Carnival Night is nice,but I like MJ's version of Launch Base.

Ice cap zone proto(origin) is like mushroom hill BGM. 11:12 It sounds like that from the middle onwards.

There’s going to be and update soon to fix this soundtrack in sonic 3

How to play Sonic Origins: When you arrive to Ice Cap, Silence the music in the settings, and with your cellphone put in youtube the original Ice Cap

people give the origins tracks a bunch of hate but they THAT bad, they may not be as good as their previous versions but i feel like i still enjoy them

The ice cap....yeah no words

The New Ice Cap doesn’t sound so bad. It still has that Arctic Theme to it but, it just doesn’t feel right.

5:13 i swear bro, they made the prototype version of carnival night act 2 sound less energetic than the original sonic 3 prototype

The prototype version of Launch base zone is just lower pitched in origins

Uh, hello! The prototypes ARE the originals!

Why does it seem like the prototype versions of the songs are better than the remastered versions they ended up using??? Just baffling to me.

I'm not even mad they used they prototype musics, I'm pissed that they made the original games unaccessible. Right before Origins released i couldn't find the Sonic's Genesis collection on Steam. Why would they do this?

Man the original carnival night zone is a jam. I have a hard time hating ice cap and launch base isn’t bad.

15:02 Launch base zone(Origin only) is similar SONIC1 Marble zone BGM

carnival night, ice cap and launch base They were the best themes of Sonic 3, but I must admit listening to the new themes, it does not give a good impression, but in the game they are slightly catchy and engaging (exept for launch base) carnival night is less..... carnival night But cheerful, it is not so evil, ditto for Ice Cap, which goes from pure depression to pure joy (at first it would suck but if you get used to it it can also become more catchy than the new Carnival Night. The new launch base does not have the air of the final zone unfortunately so I would say that launch base has the least relevant theme among the three themes. (Then there are the alternative prototype themes that are even worse)

I'll always love the original more

Me desespera ver al que juega, pero buen video xd

Just finished Sonic Origins plus with my brother. He’s played all the originals before and I have not. So I don’t have the same attachment to the original tracks as most do. (Not to say I’m not familar with the original music though) I think the new tracks are just fine. The only real issue I see with them is the muffled sound compared to their prototype versions. I think the main issue people have is the sudden tone shift compared to the original tracks. Which really leaves it down to personal preference. I heard all the hate for the OST before jumping into Origins, I’m glad I decided to see for myself before jumping on the hate train. It sounded like it’d be an unfinished half-baked mess- but It’s not bad. I understand not liking it, but I feel like the swarm of hate is undeserved. For me personally, I hated the original Carnival night zone lol I can understand the appeal, but I feel like the newer version is an upgrade. The original just gets on my nerves. As for Ice Cap, I found the original to be kind of annoying as well. (Completely personal, heard it one too many times on loop) But I can get behind the more serious feel to it. I understand why this was a hard one to let go of- it really is iconic. The new one is good. There’s just such a tone shift between the two it doesn’t really seem fair to compare them. Same sort of thing for Launch Base Zone. I love both versions. But the tones are so different. It’s like the new ones are a more light-hearted take on the adventure, while the original is more serious about it all. Idk. Really, this boils down to preference. Feel free to like whatever you like, but maybe be a little kinder to these newer versions haha

Cool

Your kind of forgetting the Complete/S&K Collection versions

No se por que pero me gusta mas la versión de carnival night act 1 de origins, obio suena apagada pero si le pones un poco más de energía, sonaria mucho mejor

they should have just used the prototype music :/ the prototype versions sound way better then origins

You still have to admit, the Origin's Ice Cap theme isn't bad, it is just used in the incorrect zone

Proto carnival night is definitely my favorite of them, but sonic origins did it so dirty. The other 2 songs had a few incorrect soundfonts, and at times you could barely tell the difference, especially in icecap, but GOD is origins carnival night bad.

Act 1 of launch base, I think the prototype is better because it sounds like the music played during takeoff in cartoons.

The tracks for launch base are just too happy. You are litterally in eggmans makeshift HQ. I was expecting something like scrap brain or wing fortress.

Ice Cap Zone would've sounded good for a Game Gear Sonic game but nothing beats the final version...

Yeaaah if they was just gonna changed Ice cap then they shouldn't have made it so.... Happy... It's Made to be intense considering the location sonic is in..

Hard times hard times gone by🥹🥹

When I play Sonic 3 air, the only protype songs Ill play is CNZ2 and LB2, I prefer those act2s over the Jackson ones.

Icecap and Launch Base are fine to me but carnival night, NO IT MADE MY EARS BLEED THE FIRST TIME I LISTENED TO IT

Many people talk about Ice Cap's music but in my opinion they butchered Carnival Night Act 2 the most in origins, in some parts it sounds like music from Sonic Jam for the game com and the worst part is that the prototype version sounds great, I'd even argue that it sounds better than the Michael Jackson version

It's not that the Origins versions are bad, it's that the originals are so much better.

I like the origins music

In an alternate universe, the copyright didn’t work out with MJ, and we grew up with the original songs. A couple years ago, a beta build was discovered that had the MJ songs on it. We were all devastated that we had to miss out on those absolute bangers, and wish we had them instead of the originals. This time, we actually got the good end!

So if MJ wrote the music for the game why can't they use it?? Oh well it's just game music.

I like the prototype music for launch base act 2 aleast it’s different music from launch base act 1

Carnival night act 2 prototype hits diffrent

14:56 the march of the bruhs

I'm guessing we have to wait until the copyright expire in 2070 or something I have comment this on a similar video

I prefer the prototype soundtracks. Especially for Carnival Night.

Hard times