RetroTink Buyers Guide - Selecting the Right Upscaler for Your Needs

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In this episode, help you in selecting the right upscaler for your needs with our RetroTink Buyers Guide.
Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
3:45 - RetroTink Mini
6:32 - RetroTink 2x Pro
12:06 - RetroTink 2x Multiformat
14:54 - RetroTink 2x SCART
16:16 - RetroTink 5x
21:24 - Final Recommendations
22:23 - Conclusion
When I really got back into retro gaming, I was perfectly fine with clone systems with HDMI outputs. They displayed at 720P, a lot of times I had multiple systems I could play in one, they worked with original controllers, and they just got me to play games. Since then, I have fallen head-first into buying the actual hardware for maximum authenticity, nostalgia, and compatibility, the problem is that there's no way to connect most retro gaming systems directly to an HDMI Port. Sure, there are AV2HDMI adapters and HDMI cables for some systems, but the performance and color recreation isn't the most authentic from those either. Enter the RetroTink line of line multipliers and upscalers, designed to convert your analog signals to digital HDMI, increase the resolution, all while not adding lag or latency. But often the choice of which one to go with can seem overwhelming. We completely understand this, which is why we're going to walk you through the benefits of each member of the RetroTink family.
RetroTink Mini - $79.99
Inputs: Composite and S-Video
Additional Features: Included S-Video Cable
I hate to call the RetroTink Mini the entry level point for the line because it simply does so much for the money. The RetroTink Mini is very similar to Mike Chi's original RetroTink 2x as it simply line doubles a 240P signal to 480P without things like scanlines or other features, but there are some slight differences. For the inputs, the Mini accepts both Composite & S-Video, however, unlike other options in the line it does not accept Component video inputs. Mike does include an S-Video cable designed to fit Nintendo's Multi-Out port like the SNES, N64, & GameCube are eqipped with. If you are looking for the simplest way to get your retro systems to an HDMI port, this is the easiest way to do so with the best results for the money.
RetroTink 2x Pro - $129.99
Inputs: Component, S-video, Composite (shared with the green jack)
Additional Features: Scanlines, Comb Filter, Pass Through 240P
The RetroTink 2X Pro takes everything that is great about the RetroTink Mini & the original 2x and turns the volume up to 11. First, it expands on the input type for the Mini and adds in Component video for an even better image. It also adds in a comb filter for better visuals, 240P pass through should the need arrive, and scanlines for those who like them, all while maintaining all the benefits & features of the Mini. Now, these additional features come at a $50 price bump, but the results are stunning when experienced.
RetroTink 2x SCART - $129.99
Inputs - RGB SCART
Additional Features: Scanlines, Comb Filter, Pass Through 240P
The RetroTink 2x SCART functions identically to the 2x Pro, the only difference is the input type is now an RGB SCART and not RCA-style Component or Composite input. Other than that, it works almost identically. One thing of note, it cannot handle Composite via SCART, so if that's your intention you're going to have issues.
RetroTink 2x Multiformat- $129.99
Inputs: Component, S-video, Composite (shared with the green jack)
Additional Features: Scanlines, Comb Filter, Pass Through 480P
One of the limits of the RetroTink Mini and the RetroTink 2x Pro is that they don't handle 480P and higher signals properly, which is why Mike went and designed the RetroTink 2x Multiformat. It still line doubles 240p/288p/480i/576i signals like other RetroTinks, but for newer systems such as the PS2, GameCube, and others, it can get you a digital 480P passthrough signal as well.
RetroTink 5X Pro - $275-$300
Inputs: Composite (shared with green RCA jack), S-Video, Component, RGB and Composite on SCART connector
Additional Features: Multiple output resolutions up-to 1440P, Filters, comb filters, pre-installed sampling modes, deinterlacer, scanlines.
If you are looking for the best of the best and you have the money to spend, the RetroTink 5x is THE ultimate upcaler from Mike Chi. It takes the 2x line multiplication and increases to a factor of 5 with a max resolution output of 1440P. Everything on the 5x is adjustable, from the scanline strength, preinstalled optimized sampling modes for different systems, and more. It is truly amazing to see the RetroTink 5x output, and even garbage signals from Composite sources look better than they deserve to. The RetroTink 5x can also handle Composite via SCART, and Mike sells and adapter for just that. While it features a premium price it also delivers a premium performance.
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@RoXolid 3 жыл бұрын
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@SanchezS1998
@SanchezS1998 2 жыл бұрын
I’m that guy who went overkill and bought the 5X for use exclusively with a PS2. My HD Retrovision component cables are coming in sometime within the next week. I’m excited 😁
@rustyshackleford164
@rustyshackleford164 2 жыл бұрын
How did your setup
@NightOfTheLiving8bit
@NightOfTheLiving8bit Жыл бұрын
Those cables aren’t necessary with the 2X Pro and 5x. They use to be, because there was an issue with 480p into the converter, but that was figured out.
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Жыл бұрын
Going with Component or SCART is the way to go, not composite
@FabioGnecco
@FabioGnecco Жыл бұрын
So...... How it looks ? Hope you are enjoying it a lot !
@TheMoises1213
@TheMoises1213 Жыл бұрын
And?
@jamespaxton6395
@jamespaxton6395 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this through in it's entirety twice and I must say you did a fantastic job going over the material. Thank you! (I chose 2x Pro)
@helloruiz
@helloruiz 2 жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to see image quality comparisons between all of them, particularly the 2x vs 5x.
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
That would have made an already long video even longer, and I don't have the Mini to compare. Also, when you upload to KZfaq you get compression and other things that it could make differences negligible vs in-person.
@kdkseven
@kdkseven 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Very informative, very helpful.
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@Soulintent95
@Soulintent95 Жыл бұрын
I used to have the 2x multiformat as i planned to one day try out scart, but then the 5x came out and i went with one of those. Absolutely love it. Its impressive on all systems, but my gamecube blows my mind. I genuinely cant believe what im seeing when i play gamecube using the 5x. The games almost look like they could have been released this year. I use s video, but with the 5x i still have the option to explore scart which is nice. I also couple it with an mclassic, which i sometimes turn off as it can cause sharpening artifacts, but it does help quite a bit. With the 2x, the mclassic was a must especially with n64.
@RogerBaconGaming
@RogerBaconGaming Жыл бұрын
Don't have that 2X multiformat anymore? I've been wanting one, but it's been discontinued so I can't find one.
@ryanl4325
@ryanl4325 3 жыл бұрын
Great video once again. Do you think it's worth upgrading to a 5x if I already own a 2x-m and 2x-pro. Is there any noticable difference in image quality?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 3 жыл бұрын
There is a noticable image quality improvement. You see all the RetroTinks I hve, and I replaced tem all with the 5 x and 2 new switchers.
@rayferrer1709
@rayferrer1709 2 жыл бұрын
What do you recommend for getting the best picture quality for my ps2 and ps1 games playing on my fat ps2? This is the only system I will be using this for. The $300 5x is out of the question for me. I also just purchased hd retrovision cables. Seems like the 2x pro or 2x multi format are my choices.
@benjaminfiedler-dc9cv
@benjaminfiedler-dc9cv 4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this video, super helpful. I just emailed you with some questions. Hopefully hear from you 👍🏻
@mtshark7
@mtshark7 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome guide Gary! Now will these devices allow me to see the intro sequence to my gaming consoles? For instance, I have the pound cable for the Dreamcast and when the picture shows on the screen the ball that bounces in the intro already spelled out Dreamcast. That shit makes my blood boil lol.
@Benknot
@Benknot 2 жыл бұрын
I currently play my game cube games through my wii using the component cables. Would this device improve the graphics or would it be about the same. I'm currently debating between the mini and the pro model. I definitely want one for the older systems like SNES & N64
@resfan000
@resfan000 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@alexeimuravsky
@alexeimuravsky 2 жыл бұрын
If I have a N64 and a Gamecube should I get the RetroTink 2x Pro or the Multiformat one? I may also be getting a NES and SNES in the future, but for the time being the N64 and GC will be used the most. Thank you for this video, it was great!
@SnarkyRC
@SnarkyRC 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and explanation. I'm wanting to hook up my NES and my PS2 to my HD TV. Since the multi format seems to be discontinued and the 5x is out of my budget I guess the 2x Pro is the one I'm going with.
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
The Multi-Format isn't discontinued, just out of stock from what I can tell
@SnarkyRC
@SnarkyRC 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid Yeah they have been out of stock for many months.
@snrrlax
@snrrlax Жыл бұрын
The 5x works fine with going into capture cards but I've had issues going straight from the 2x to capture cards. For the 2x's I go from the 2x to an OSSC and that's works amazingly.
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Жыл бұрын
I never had issues with the2x into capture cards as long as the capture card recognized 480P, which mine all did
@polycube868
@polycube868 2 жыл бұрын
How well does the Retrotink Mini scale 480i video for PlayStation 2 and GameCube? I love the old CRTs but I mostly agree about scanline filters, they look fake, unless I'm playing Ninja Gaiden or certain games I want sharp pixels on retro games if I'm playing them on my monitor.
@chrismanning1508
@chrismanning1508 Жыл бұрын
Nice video man! I'm so fed up with trying the $30 price point PS2 to HDMI converters. I've tried Levelhike, Hyperkin, and the Amazon's choice one, and I've had either sound buzzing issues, or intermittent black screen issues with all three of them. I'm thinking about entering the RetroTink product line for my PS2 and the RetroTink 2X Pro looks like probably the smartest option. Aside from the RetroTink 2X Pro, what other cables/products would you recommend to complete the connection/setup with it? My tv has RCA inputs (red, yellow, white), and HDMI ports. No component inputs though.
@Rumblefan
@Rumblefan 7 ай бұрын
I imagine you’ve probably figured it out by now, but my only suggestion is to buy component cables for any console you own that supports it, and for the ones that don’t, get s video cables. Only use rca composite connection for the few consoles that don’t support a better output, like the nes.
@ThePrivateGamer19
@ThePrivateGamer19 2 ай бұрын
Im also currently using the hdmi converter from level hike and it hase problems with sound and colors aswell.
@IroonieLA
@IroonieLA Жыл бұрын
What’s the difference between Ultimate Mister Pro FPGA device and Retrotink 5x? Which one is better?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Жыл бұрын
The Mister is an emulation device, meaning you load ROMs and ISOs on it to play. The RetroTink connects to your existing hardware so you can get better visuals using actual cartridges or discs
@eduardoblanco7316
@eduardoblanco7316 Жыл бұрын
Hello, hope you can help me with a question : i want to play playstation 2 games on a playstation 2 system, and playstation 1 games on that playstation 2 system, so if i add an mclassic which should i use: the retrotink 2x pro or the 2x m?
@thomasbusby1717
@thomasbusby1717 2 жыл бұрын
Looking for advice on what to choose I'm currently using a terrible av2hdmi converter with a av splitter (composite) so i want to replace the terrible av2hdmi converter but ideally keep using my splitter which connects up my SNES, N64, GameCube, Xbox, Dreamcast, PS1, PS2.
@ashplumb1
@ashplumb1 11 ай бұрын
Hi pal really enjoyed the video and very informative . Please can I pick your brains? I went all out and bought the 5x along with the HD retro gaming cables for my sega mega drive 2. I am having no luck with getting a good picture through my Panasonic 4K tv. I was trying to run through my Yamaha av rx v777 but was only getting sound but no picture and was not sure why? Some people said the av couldn’t process the signals properly. Not gonna lie as I have no clue regarding all this tech. Was just hoping to plug and play. I have since plugged the 5x into an old Toshiba lcd tv and again the picture quality is very poor hurting the eyes. I just don’t remember the experiencing this sort of image many years ago when running in on my old Sony Plano CRT tv. Please could you advise on how to set this thing up properly. Any advice would be much appreciated cheers
@nuvotion-live
@nuvotion-live 2 жыл бұрын
Is this converter only useful when you’re trying to convert a 240p video signal to HDMI? Or is it also useful for 480i? For example, if I wanted to use an HDMI capture card for a composite or s-video signal. It must be better than those no-brand converters you find on Amazon, right?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
You can use it with any Component, Composite, SCART or S-Video signal, not just 240P.
@stayfly84
@stayfly84 10 ай бұрын
Hey I loved your video it was very informative...I have a Sega Saturn and I guess I might just be getting the big boy Retro tink 5x pro...lol...my question is what are the best cables for the saturn and can Scart be used for it as well...money is no problem...I just like to make sure I get something great the first time...I also seen that a new one is coming out with 4K...I might just stick around to wait and see I will be definitely looking out for your review of that...please I would like to know 😊
@GyspyRaven
@GyspyRaven 2 ай бұрын
Great video!
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@GedH-316
@GedH-316 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, quick question I'm new to this and looking into getting one of these over in Ireland for my megadrive and SNES, I think they both can output SCART. I think I can order a SCART RAD2X or there's an OSSC6 at the moment from a vendor, which would I be better going with in your opinion? Or should I wait for one of the others?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
Rad2X was developed with Mike Chi from RetroTink, so that would be a good option. I've never heard of OSSC6 so I am not sure?
@GedH-316
@GedH-316 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid sorry I mean the OSSC version 6
@jeff97ish
@jeff97ish 3 жыл бұрын
Good one Gary!
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@belchmonkey6407
@belchmonkey6407 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this video helped me understand a lot more. So... I am in the UK, and will be using an NTSC-J Super Famicom. A Pal N64 (both of these with everdrive) and a PS2... The 2x will be fine for all of these?
@belchmonkey6407
@belchmonkey6407 2 жыл бұрын
(Pal PS2, a slim and a not so slim)
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
It should work just fine!
@cameronpatterson5751
@cameronpatterson5751 10 ай бұрын
i bought a crt for my n64, but man has my 32 year old eyes got use to looking at 1080 and 1440p computer monitors so the lines bother the hell out of me. so finding this for my n64 is nice! Cause i can hook up to my flat screen with composite, but the tv has screen tearing issue and lag inputs.
@liammorrison4284
@liammorrison4284 7 ай бұрын
Awesome video! I have a ps2 with component cables and I’m wondering which option is best. I’m torn between the 2x pro and the 5x. I have a feeling that for almost double the price I’m not going to get double the performance. I’ve also heard that 480i games don’t scale as well on the 5x and newly announced 4k. Anyone have any ideas or advice?
@IanNewYashaTheFinalAct
@IanNewYashaTheFinalAct 3 жыл бұрын
The RAD2X is also from the Mike Chi dysfunctional family. I ended up getting a pre-order for the Genesis model 2 one + the model 1 adapter, _and I haven’t even gotten the console yet_
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Genesis I am looking to get rid of!
@IanNewYashaTheFinalAct
@IanNewYashaTheFinalAct 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid lol what's the catch?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not giving it away, but I am selling it. I have a few things I need to get rid of, duplicates, and other stuff I bought I just don't use.
@IanNewYashaTheFinalAct
@IanNewYashaTheFinalAct 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid I figured there must have been a blown capacitor or roach infestation
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 3 жыл бұрын
@@IanNewYashaTheFinalAct Nope, no issues at all. I just have the X'EYE now so I don't need it.
@Dylan-xh3cu
@Dylan-xh3cu 2 жыл бұрын
I'm using the HD retrovision component cable for my ps2. Hooked up directly to my hd tv. Is the retrotink 2x pro m a upgrade? When you have the component connection on your tv ? And if there is a difference,is it worth the extra money for the retrotink?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
The RetroTink will look better than going directly into component video on your television.
@Dylan-xh3cu
@Dylan-xh3cu 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid ok,thanks 👌
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dylan-xh3cu You are most welcome
@codica666
@codica666 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Gamecube and a PS2 and I'd like to hook them up to my 4K TV. Will the Retro TINK-2X Mini do the trick? I still don't get what the result is going to be. Will the image cover most of the TV screen or do I have to look at a tiny gamewindow in the middle of the TV?
@TheMoises1213
@TheMoises1213 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever find out?
@codica666
@codica666 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMoises1213 nope ;)
@TheMoises1213
@TheMoises1213 Жыл бұрын
@@codica666 how come lol
@SJ-mh1rg
@SJ-mh1rg 3 жыл бұрын
Snes do not output component video natively. The HDR cable is still a rgb to component video converter cable
@CastleManiaGames
@CastleManiaGames 3 жыл бұрын
the SNES Jr. doesn't, the model 1 does.
@gavin555666
@gavin555666 Жыл бұрын
I love my crt but I think I’d like to free up some space and use one of my hd TVs. I have a 1080p Sony tv that has composite, component, s-video, vga, and hdmi. Which one would you recommend for using on a tv like this. all consoles from nes to ps2 would be being used on this tv. I have component cables for my ps2,Xbox and Wii so should I just plug them in directly into the tv and just use on of these for upscaling composite and s-video based consoles?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Жыл бұрын
I would use this for all if possible, with a component video switch.
@gavin555666
@gavin555666 Жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid witch one would you recommend for all the 2xpro or 5x pro
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Жыл бұрын
@@gavin555666 the money, the 5x all day long. If you are on a budget, the 2x does a great job too
@firebirdphoenix163
@firebirdphoenix163 Жыл бұрын
Can I use the RetroTink Pro 2X to connect an original NES via composite and a Sega Genesis 1 ? Both consoles connected at the same time?
@Trueshogunate
@Trueshogunate 2 жыл бұрын
This is a silly question and I'm sorry, but I was told by someone that the 2x-pro only supports 240p, but that doesn't make sense to me. I'm hoping to get the 2x-pro to use my wii component cables and my PS2 composite cables with it, and I'm really confused on which will be ok to go from console to retrotink to hdmi capture card so that I can stream. The 2x-pro manual said "Supported Formats 240p, 288p, 480i, 576i" Would that mean that these are the inputs supported?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it supports all those resolutions. Now the original one was optimized for 240P and, while you could use higher than 240P into it you would likely run into issues.
@bowi1332
@bowi1332 3 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid we won't get the "Multiformat" model this summer because it uses some parts that the 5X uses. 😭 That being said... ... What about the chroma subsampling... What was/is the "controversy" about it?
@CD-yb9wt
@CD-yb9wt 2 жыл бұрын
Will any of these devices allow the NES to use the Zapper (or any light gun peripheral for any vintage console) on an modem TV?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
They will not, sorry
@kybone25
@kybone25 3 ай бұрын
Hi :) I'm just wondering if you could tell me what features the Retrotink 4K has over the 5X? I don't imagine you will be able to see the difference between FULL HD 1080p and 4K when playing a retro game on a modern display?! I just simply want to be able to play my Genesis, NES, SNES, N64, PS1 and PS2 games on my OLED and have the best picture possible. As I have already mentioned, I can't imagine the 4K, technically being the "best possible" option, being visibly better than the 1080p option. Am I right in thinking this? I don't do live streaming or anything, I just like to play though some of my old games now and then. Any information you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
@maxlabelle19
@maxlabelle19 2 жыл бұрын
If I go with the 2x-M , for my ps1-ps2-n64 does it still give you a 480p in the center if thr screen or it will fill my 4k tv? Will I still have to stretch the image? I dont want wide black bar on either side. Can someone help?
@imarkovic1
@imarkovic1 Жыл бұрын
Hi, what do you recommend for Sega Genesis 2..? If the picture quality is very close between 2x and scart to hdmi, than it makes sense to me that scart to hdmi from RetroTink is the best buy solution, right..? Or the 2x has the better quality with the components cable..? These 2 options has made me to think, I did not found any comparison.
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Жыл бұрын
Don't use SCART to HDMI adapters, these are terrible and introduce a ton of lag. IF you want to go SCART then get the RetroTink SCART and you'll have a good experience. Otherwise component to RetroTInk 2X or 5x is without a doubt the way to go.
@imarkovic1
@imarkovic1 Жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid Hi, I was planning to get the RetroTink 2x SCART device and the SCART cable from Insurrection. That I have seen after I was looking for RetroTink 2x with component cable, and realized that maybe is better option. Do you agree, or still think it`s not a good option to go to SCART?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Жыл бұрын
@@imarkovic1 SCART cables are less expensive, but the very little difference in video between SCART & component cable video quality IMO
@Abraxus34
@Abraxus34 2 жыл бұрын
anyway all of them doesnt have zero lag! and I still dont understand whats the best to use for my rgb modded av famicom console (with rgb scart cable) if I use 4:3 EIZO monitor with dvi or display port input only
@alexandrevieira9470
@alexandrevieira9470 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Gary. For N64 u choose Retrotink 5X or EON64 with slick mode and MClassic?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 3 жыл бұрын
Since my N64 is RGB modded I don't personally use the Super 64, I use HDRV cables and RetroTink. NOW I will say that I'm HDMI modding my N64 so that's how that will be connected soon.
@markschnitzer43
@markschnitzer43 2 жыл бұрын
Best method / specific products to connect both N64 and PS2 to a newer TV? Not sure how 2x mini would connect to splitter.
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
Out-of-the-box, the N64 doesn't output RGB, so you're stuck with either Composite or S-Video. What you could do is get an AV splitter/switch for the audio, use Component video for the PS2 and then S-Video for the N64.
@markschnitzer43
@markschnitzer43 2 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to connect a 2X Mini to an HDMI splitter? And which Retrotink is good for PS2?
@bkrfrenchies4455
@bkrfrenchies4455 Жыл бұрын
What's the switcher you recommend for using with a n64 and a modern tv with the retro tink 5x?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Жыл бұрын
I use a TESmart 16x1
@josephshin5321
@josephshin5321 9 ай бұрын
If I want to use my PS2 with 1080p resolution, I’m assuming I would need the 5x pro with component cables right?
@pow9606
@pow9606 2 ай бұрын
How about the retro gem mod. 😁
@chrislehmann6240
@chrislehmann6240 9 ай бұрын
wait so to use this with a N64 or gamecube being the 2x Pro, the console has to be modded? I dont plan to capture, just want the best picture output.
@Retro-Fez
@Retro-Fez 3 жыл бұрын
Ive ordered the 2x scart for use with my saturn, and jaguar cant wait to get it but have an nes and amiga cd32 i wanna use with a composite to scart adapter will that work with the 2x can someone let me know please
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 3 жыл бұрын
From the more info section in the video itself: RetroTink 2x SCART - $129.99 Inputs - RGB SCART Additional Features: Scanlines, Comb Filter, Pass Through 240P The RetroTink 2x SCART functions identically to the 2x Pro, the only difference is the input type is now an RGB SCART and not RCA-style Component or Composite input. Other than that, it works almost identically. One thing of note, it cannot handle Composite via SCART, so if that's your intention you're going to have issues.
@RedRanger2001
@RedRanger2001 Ай бұрын
You should make an update with the most expensive one of them all - the RetroTink 4K...
@SeanDarr
@SeanDarr 2 ай бұрын
i have the component cables for my gamecube - and a cheap HDMI converter. box that was like 10 bucks - i want the graphics to look as good as the Dolphin Emulator but i'm starting to worry it's not possible - i'm really thinking about the 2x Pro and hoping it with my component cables will give me a noticeably nicer image for games like Star Fox Adventures or Twilight princess - should i just get an HDMI modded gamecube? Or the Retrotink 2x Pro?
@aspinia
@aspinia 2 жыл бұрын
what about the dreamcast vga box, its supposed to get the best picture quality, Ido have a vga monitor but what about using it on a 4k monitor?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is not all games are compatible with the VGA output.
@calvissuperman
@calvissuperman 2 жыл бұрын
bought the hdmi adapter at 2:15 it adds too much delay to play most games, and it also flashes black randomly throughout playing. Impossible to use, went back to my old TV until the retrotink arrives
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
Those things are garbage by-and-large. I am not a fan by any stretch of the imagination.
@shenrais1248
@shenrais1248 3 жыл бұрын
So how hard is it to get a RetroTINK5X anyways? I assume the next batch is soon as the site says June/July and its July but I am wondering if this is going to be like the Super NT which sells out in the first minute. Also, does the RetroTINK2X help with 240/480i resolution switching on modern tvs? I have a PS1 which does this which is what made me look at RetroTINK and it seems like 5X is the solution, but am wondering if 2X also works. Thanks.
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 3 жыл бұрын
The 2X Pro would be better for the PS1 and newer. I haven't heard any updates from Mike regarding when the next batch is coming. If you're interested is reach out to him on Twitter
@shenrais1248
@shenrais1248 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid Ah, alright. Thank you. I assumed the next batch was in June/July as that was what was stated on the site.
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 3 жыл бұрын
Right, but that means June or July, not a specific date. So only being July 4th he's just hit the middle of his anticipated delivery dates
@shenrais1248
@shenrais1248 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid Yep I am aware. I will see what happens this month. Thanks again.
@mfr0113
@mfr0113 2 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to use an av switcher (with an SNES, NES, GC, and N64) with the 2x Mini? Thanks!
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
100%! That's what I do!
@djshocase4577
@djshocase4577 Жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid Hi, what kind of AV Switcher are you using? BTW, thanks for producing this video, I Think I'm going to get the 5x
@danlah1303
@danlah1303 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t get 5x because I wanted smoothing for N64, and I don’t have anything newer than N64 at the moment. I see there was a smoothing firmware update.
@PureWickedAU
@PureWickedAU 7 ай бұрын
Hiyas, any idea whether the Retrotink Mini would suit a Laserdisc player? best output on mine is S-Video ... Retrotink 2x Pro Multi format might be the go
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 7 ай бұрын
I think it should work but I haven't tested it myself
@PureWickedAU
@PureWickedAU 7 ай бұрын
@@RoXolid thank you, I might message the store and see what he thinks? as far as gaming I've recently built a Mister fpga system so picture quality of that side is pretty great
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 7 ай бұрын
@@PureWickedAU The main thing I don't know is how laserdisc players handle HDCP or if it was even an issue
@PureWickedAU
@PureWickedAU 7 ай бұрын
@@RoXolid Ah great point, and likely why plugging it into a Panasonic Blu Ray recorder didn't go well .. could see a difference between composite and S-Video but was still Black and White and had two identical glitch type bars at the bottom of the display... Tried NTSC settings etc ... But forgot about HDCP
@studiokadaver
@studiokadaver 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 2x Pro & OSSC 1.6 (from V.G.P. not a clone lol).. as well as every console HD Retrovision cable offered. (Genesis, SNES, Saturn, Wii, SuperGraFx) all routed through a GCopm 8:2.. Dreamcast currently on OSSC SCART. Btw I love Castlemania... I’d still love to get my hands on a RT 5x.
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
The 5x is truly amazing
@studiokadaver
@studiokadaver 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid I’m currently working on a GBS-C To add to my setup
@maryluzramirez3353
@maryluzramirez3353 Жыл бұрын
Question - So if my HDTV already accepts component input why would I need the pro 2x? (Green,blue,red)
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Жыл бұрын
Your television does little if any upscaling. You're basically just using 240P or 480P, depending on what system you're using
@maryluzramirez3353
@maryluzramirez3353 Жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid I'm using it for ps2 & wii & my tv says it's displaying 480i. But I thought component cables were 720p?
@demonprincess5634
@demonprincess5634 6 ай бұрын
i got a atari 7800 amd i cant find anything tat well go from rf to rca or hdim
@kybone25
@kybone25 Жыл бұрын
Hey dude, any update on when the Retrotink 4k will be released?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Жыл бұрын
I do not, I know Mike and Voultar are working on it.
@PrismOpal64
@PrismOpal64 8 ай бұрын
Okay so I got a retrotink 2x pro and I'm using it for my ps2. I'm trying to play Clock Tower 3 and while it works, I can't see damn near anything because the game is literally so dark. Even when I max out the brightness and contrast on my tv, it doesn't help and I have a hard time seeing anything. Does anyone have any tips or bits of wisdom that could help?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 8 ай бұрын
What cables are you using to go from teh PS2 into the 2X Pro?
@PrismOpal64
@PrismOpal64 8 ай бұрын
@@RoXolid I'm using the regular AV cables that came with my ps2 back in the day, the red, white, and yellow. Is there another kind of cable I can get to help fix this issue?
@thabetyusuf
@thabetyusuf 3 жыл бұрын
For the ultimate ps2 experience. Which one would you recommend?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 3 жыл бұрын
The Retrotink 5x is the ultimate way to play the PS2.
@rhtr.
@rhtr. 3 жыл бұрын
5x and thank me later. It's really currently best solution for PS2. I bought it and tested so I know.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 3 жыл бұрын
The ps2 is one of the systems that benefits the most from the retrotink5x. The motion adaptive deinterlacing on 480i only games is practically a game changer. Also no more shakey bob deinterlacing while still being lagless.
@rblc86
@rblc86 2 жыл бұрын
Inside game ... Mono or stereo??? Will stereo output give more lag than mono audio option???
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
It outputs stereo and doesn't effect lag
@luism8074
@luism8074 Жыл бұрын
Will any retrotink work on older Samsung lcd TV from 2008 ?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Жыл бұрын
As long as it has an HDMI in
@chimnino
@chimnino 2 жыл бұрын
I am at a loss... I want to connect a PS1, PS2, GameCube and Wii to HDMI but I have NO-IDEA where to start.. I already have component cable for Wii, the rest is just conposite. There are so many options out there...
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
For your setup I would go with a RetroTink Multiformat or a 5X. Both handle Composite well, including the PS1, and will also handle the component video from your Wii. Also, for the Gamecube, I would suggest checking out the Retro-bit Prism or the Insurrection Industries Carby as they can plug right into the Digital Output of the system (if you have it) and give you HDMI Out.
@Alberto7tube
@Alberto7tube Жыл бұрын
Can I play nes on the retrotink 5x ?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Жыл бұрын
You can, you'd use the Composite video output from the NES into the Green Component input.
@OkiDingo
@OkiDingo 4 ай бұрын
looks like RetroTink only has a 2x Pro now, which is the multiformat version.....probably to minimize confusion.
@aubreylee2787
@aubreylee2787 4 ай бұрын
Can i use this for laserdisc player?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 4 ай бұрын
I'm not sure, you may be able to because I don't think the HDCP protection that DVDs and blu-rays have were a part of the laser disk format, but I can't guarantee it
@slimrockwrestlers7334
@slimrockwrestlers7334 3 жыл бұрын
How much better is the retrotink pro M Vs the regular pro when using the ps2
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 3 жыл бұрын
For the PS2 you want the Multi-Format due to how it handles 480i and 480P content.
@slimrockwrestlers7334
@slimrockwrestlers7334 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid I've already got the pro so I didn't know if it's worth spending another 100plus pounds to get the multi format
@3ltutuperro185
@3ltutuperro185 2 жыл бұрын
Which one is the best for my PSone
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
240P and below, go with the Pro, Higher than 240P go with the Multiformat
@oscarcamey8
@oscarcamey8 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny how a retro shop I went to sell cheap av to HDMI converters and I told them about the retrotink, and they were saying it's the same thing and a waste of money lmao I hate when shops like that think they know more than their customers.
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's sad but there's only so much you can do
@zoomkobe24
@zoomkobe24 5 ай бұрын
Which one would be best for a ps2 and N64? Btw I have a c3 LG oled
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 5 ай бұрын
RetroTink multi format
@zoomkobe24
@zoomkobe24 5 ай бұрын
@@RoXolid thank you but I just checked and that one seems to discontinued
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 5 ай бұрын
Then I'd say the 5x
@zoomkobe24
@zoomkobe24 5 ай бұрын
@@RoXolid ok 👍🏽
@Sugar3Glider
@Sugar3Glider Жыл бұрын
Does that line scaling multiplication mean that I can play in NES game on a 8K TV or something?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Жыл бұрын
It will cap out at 1440P I believe but yes
@Sugar3Glider
@Sugar3Glider Жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid oh wow, yeah? Hmm... 2k SMB3 would be kind of amazing
@rickalbuquerque1205
@rickalbuquerque1205 Жыл бұрын
Most PS2 games are 480i which one for that?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Жыл бұрын
Either the Multi format or the 5x
@djm9937
@djm9937 2 жыл бұрын
All well and good, but here in the UK we are stuffed as RetroTink do not ship to the UK?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
He actually does!
@djm9937
@djm9937 2 жыл бұрын
'Sorry, we don't ship to your area'. Is the message i get. Can't afford one anyhoo yet. Assume one has to pay allsorts of taxes on top of this. @@RoXolid
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
@@djm9937 Reach out to Mike on Twitter, they do have sales to the UK
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
Found the link, he had a specific UK order link: www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=SQVGGJ5DWWZ9Y
@djm9937
@djm9937 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid Cheers :)
@PanditaP
@PanditaP 2 жыл бұрын
Thank god for this video. The only thing that bugged me was the music in the background. It’s a little loud and annoying :(. I appreciate you though!
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
Noted!
@BrandonArnold0
@BrandonArnold0 5 ай бұрын
I see at 10:40 you state that the SNES and Genesis natively output component (YPbPr). I think that isn’t right. They natively output RGB with some flavor of sync. HD Retrovision’s claim to fame is the adapter inline that converts native RGB to component (YPbPr) for these consoles. The video is as good as RGB from SCART and follows the current trend against the SCART adapter.
@jamesh446
@jamesh446 2 жыл бұрын
Dude the SNES didn’t do component out of the box it did RGB, the two are totally different.
@Scolio
@Scolio 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he got confused or something. Those component cables just tap into the RGB from the AV out port. Just like the original xbox. There are cables that plug into its AV out that go to hdmi. You cant say that the xbox supports hdmi out of the box, its an aftermarket cable that taps into its component cable mode.
@jp-zp4zz
@jp-zp4zz Жыл бұрын
SNES actually didn't do rgb it did composite. You guys are confusing RGB (component) with composite which is yellow (single video output) and red/white audio.
@FullMetal909X
@FullMetal909X 2 жыл бұрын
What's the best way to get the best video from a dreamcast?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
There's an HDMI mod for it now, that's going to get you the best results
@FullMetal909X
@FullMetal909X 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid any word on hd retrovision component cables being released? I have a retrotink 2x multiformat and mclassic upscaler already and feel like the retrovision component cables would be the best without all the extra work or different equipment
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
@@FullMetal909X I know it's something they've been working on for quite some time, and plenty of people, including myself, tease them about it on Twitter. I haven't heard any details regarding if and when or how close they are to production
@FullMetal909X
@FullMetal909X 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid RIP, would an s-video dreamcast cable offer any improvement from composite? (Then line doubled and upscaled).
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
There's a VGA cable out there that you can get that looks really good. The ossc does VGA in, and Ryan at castlemania games also offers a VGA to scart adapter
@rickalbuquerque1205
@rickalbuquerque1205 Жыл бұрын
What's best for the PS2?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Жыл бұрын
Either the Multi format or the 5x
@rickalbuquerque1205
@rickalbuquerque1205 Жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid how much is the multi-format?
@user-yk1cw8im4h
@user-yk1cw8im4h 3 жыл бұрын
What games do you even play on that wii u
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 3 жыл бұрын
Twilight Princess, Ducktales, Super Luigi U, NES Remix, Shovel Knight, Yoshi's Woolly World, Captain Toad, Mario Kart 8, Super Mario 3D World, Super Mario Maker, New Super Mario Bros U , Donkey Kong Country Tropical Blast, Smash Bros, AVGN, Duck Hunt, just to name a few.
@user-yk1cw8im4h
@user-yk1cw8im4h 3 жыл бұрын
​@@RoXolid Thanks, I will check those out. Had one myself but struggled to find good games, only game I enjoyed are mario kart, mario 3D world and breath of the wild. It's just not common to see it displayed like that in a game room these days, it's usually hidden somewhere...
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Wii U is a fantastic system. Many think the Dreamcast is the most misunderstood/underappreciated system out there, but I argue it's the Wii U. There are some duds out there, Star Fox is terrible due to horrible controls, but there are also some truly awesome games on the system.
@user-yk1cw8im4h
@user-yk1cw8im4h 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid People always say the Wii U is redundant/useless, as most titles are ported to the switch. And Project Zero used to be the last exclusive everyone wants, but now it's ported over to the Switch.
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 3 жыл бұрын
I think that is overly simplistic. Yes, the better games have been ported over, but there are still great titles there.
@inderjeetuppal6462
@inderjeetuppal6462 Ай бұрын
What about rad2x?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Ай бұрын
From what I hear a great device, I've just never used one.
@inderjeetuppal6462
@inderjeetuppal6462 Ай бұрын
@@RoXolidbut is it good or bad? Reason is because I can’t afford these expensive upscalers since I spent on modern small oled tv and ps2 games.
@rhtr.
@rhtr. 3 жыл бұрын
Just buy 5x. It's really great.
@bowi1332
@bowi1332 3 жыл бұрын
If you have the money.
@RogerBaconGaming
@RogerBaconGaming Жыл бұрын
Sadly the Multiformat is long gone... The 5X is just too expensive for me to justify.
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Жыл бұрын
It's an investment for sure. If I didn't have so many systems going through it I would have stuck with the 2x
@kanggoo57
@kanggoo57 8 ай бұрын
ill probably end up picking the RetroScaler 2x clone. Mike seems to have issues stocking his shop constantly, and the prices have not come down one bit since 2019. I understand that R&D isnt free but for a student, a 70 dollar price difference is crazy, and him asking full price for older products is crazy
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 8 ай бұрын
I cannot support that statement in any way. Both Kaico and Bitfunx stole Mike's design, and they even stole the copy off of his website which had a typo on it, and they copied and pasted the typo! They have no integrity whatsoever, will steal from anyone that they can, and they don't give a damn about the gaming community. I understand that Mike's products are not cheap, 100%. He is also shifted his development time and efforts into the 5X and the upcoming 4K. As such I believe he has stopped producing the original retro tank 2X, but you can reach out to him on Twitter to verify that. There is the RetroTink Mini, And that line doubles composite and S video just as the originals did at a lower cost. And you have to do what you can afford but I'm telling you right now if you purchase a retro scaler you are supporting those who steal intellectual property from others.
@kanggoo57
@kanggoo57 8 ай бұрын
@@RoXolid I get that r&d takes time, but he is still asking basically the same/more than what he did ask for the products in 2019. even the chip shortage is over, so i honestly do not know why he has not lowered his prices. The 5x is priced out of basically any young enthusiasts pricerange too, shipped to my country it would be the same as a PS5! dont even get me started on the 4k. Because the manufacturing cost for the 2x/5x/4k is way lower what it used to be, id guess the manufacturing cost is about 50 bucks for the 5x, and he is selling them at a 6x margin. thats pretty crazy. Ill look up if he`ll stock the less pricy models though, buying chinese is always kinda scummy, but the pricing is what it is.
@spragzpc1
@spragzpc1 Жыл бұрын
I just want to play my ps5 on a crt 🤭
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Жыл бұрын
You can, there are HDMI to composite adapters if you really hate your PS5 that much
@spragzpc1
@spragzpc1 Жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid I don't hate the ps5 I just love my CRT to much 😍.🤣. I own a 55in Sony oled encase your worried bout the ps5 lol
@andrebaxter4023
@andrebaxter4023 Жыл бұрын
😆
@alexisaguirrevazquez7900
@alexisaguirrevazquez7900 Жыл бұрын
There's CRT TVs with HDMI.
@pm34711
@pm34711 3 жыл бұрын
Relax!
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 3 жыл бұрын
? Uh, ok
@Geek2Meet
@Geek2Meet 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the 5 pro and I am beyond upset with its quality. Sega Genesis looks terrible, N64 looks glitchy. I’m not happy to the say the least.
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
I have never heard that from anyone. Have you reached out to Mike chi? He's more than willing to help anyone out, if you haven't done so yet definitely do so on twitter. If you don't mind my asking how are you connecting the Genesis and the n64?
@Geek2Meet
@Geek2Meet 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid I haven’t reached out. But I also didn’t see a section reach out to him. I am using a composite cable for Genesis and an official Nintendo S-Video and tried composite also for N64. I just got the unit yesterday. I also just tried NES and SNES. The SNES looks good but NES looked similar to the Genesis. I’ll be trying PS1/PS2 shortly with an official song S-Video.
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
@@Geek2Meet okay, so I understand a little bit of what's going on here and I can help a little bit. First, @retrotink2 is Mike's Twitter account. Reach out to him there for any assistance. For the Genesis, composite is a garbage signal, there's only so much you can do with it. That being said, the Genesis supports RGB right from the box. Replace the composite cables with component cables from HD retrovision or SCART cables from insurrection industries, you will be amazed how good your system looks. Same thing goes with the super nintendo, if it's the original one it supports RGB and you can do the same thing with RGB component video cables or SCART. The super Nintendo is a nightmare video wise, so that is something to keep in mind. S-Video is the best signal you're going to get out of an unmodded system. Unfortunately, there's nothing beyond composite for the NES without modding it. You don't even have the option for S-Video like you do on the N64.
@Geek2Meet
@Geek2Meet 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoXolid would firmware updates make any huge difference in quality? I just noticed I’m on an much older version.
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 2 жыл бұрын
I would say it's less than the quality and more in the ease of use and usability if that makes sense? Now newer firmware updates do include additional resolution options that your TV may or may not be able to process. For example, there's a 1400 p profile now but neither my capture card nor my television recognizes the signal
@robinson32993
@robinson32993 5 ай бұрын
If you’re planning on getting the 5x just for the Wii, don’t do it, not worth it at all. Wii looks pretty bad and super jaggy edges on all games and the mclassic doesn’t really play nice with the 5x. You’re better off modding the Wii with hdmi mod and using the mclassic and the photofast 4k scaler.
@outlawdg
@outlawdg 3 ай бұрын
yeah those prices are a joke, absolutely not worth it in the slightest.
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 3 ай бұрын
Perhaps not for you but for others it is definitely worth it. Now I'll admit the 4K is a lot of money to have to lay out and for most people I think they could do just fine with the retrotink 5X.
@culturax2285
@culturax2285 5 ай бұрын
Not a fan of CRTs...not a fan of exercise either. 😅
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 5 ай бұрын
Oh that's hilarious, such a brilliant mind. But why didn't you bring up that I'm also not a fan of combs? I mean if you're going to go for low-hanging fruit dude.
@Anth369
@Anth369 Жыл бұрын
My experience with Mike the creator of this product was awful. I checked the shipping price of the smaller 2x to Au and it was a whopping $60 USD! That’s nearly $90 Australian, and near half the price of the product. When I asked why the shipping was ridiculously priced and impractical, he replied to my email with a picture of a clown (calling me a clown is my best guest). I wouldn’t ever deal with anyone with such a condescending and rude attitude. I don’t care how great this products are, rude creators who have no people skills don’t get my money. Try again Mike.
@liammorrison4284
@liammorrison4284 7 ай бұрын
I’m conflicted on this. On one hand he can charge whatever he wants and if shipping internationally is a pain I would charge a ridiculous amount too. But on the other hand you see that the retrotink 4k is selling for $750 and you start to wonder
@Hobojoe4464
@Hobojoe4464 5 ай бұрын
It was $60 because the only international option they offered at the time on the site was DHL Express. So the products would get to the buyer fast, would be fully tracked and insured. The site still tells you it's DHL for International purchases. When I bought my 5x 2 years ago I paid the same for shipping. It Left California Friday and was at my door by noon on Monday (outside Toronto) They offer more shipping options now or you can find official sellers in different countries including Canada where the shipping cost to a individual may be cheaper.
@SantanaSasquatch
@SantanaSasquatch Жыл бұрын
What’s the best option for PAL Ps2?
@RoXolid
@RoXolid Жыл бұрын
I think it'll work with PAL systems but I'd check with Mike Chi
@misfitchrisrules5725
@misfitchrisrules5725 10 ай бұрын
Hi i love your videos and content I really want to order a retrotink 2x i live on Guam on the retrotink site it says they ship domestic and Guam is considered domestic you can actually select Guam but unfortunately the site will not let me place my order we use and except USPS priority mail on Guam i was wondering if their is a email or phone number or platform i can reach retrotink so i can palce my order please ley me no and keep up the great content
@RoXolid
@RoXolid 10 ай бұрын
Mike Chi is very active on Twitter, message @Retrotink2
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