I agree with you! When I watch Sleepaway Camp, I always feel bad for her especially in the scene where Meg picks Angela and throw her to the water while she was screaming from despair, begging to not throw her at the water. Now Return to Sleepaway Camp, the only thing I got to think is they did Alan like a "new Angela" species where we were supposed to feel bad for him, but in the end, I hated him so much but so much that I was wanting Angela to kill him. To be sincere, I felt much more bad for the glasses shy boy than Alan.

Unfortunately that means giving him more screen time, can't have everything I guess.

Talisguy That genuinely sounds like an interesting movie. Too bad this film didn’t do it and made Alan, an extremely unlikable person, the focus.

I think the sequel should be better or maybe decent if the plot continues where the first movie ended. I always wanted to know what happened with Angela/Peter, Ricky or even Aunt Martha. Since the original Angela survived after boat accident, Don't exists any reason for her be a killer. I mean, when I heard Felissa rose played Angela again, immediately I thought she was going to play the same shy Angela from the first movie but when I discovered she not was going to play Angela/Peter but the original Angela of boat accident, It confused my mind a lot. Until today, I still be confused a lot. Never got to understand. I mean, If was the Angela/Peter, it should be acceptable since Angela/Peter was bullied, traumatized and even being forced by his aunt to be a girl, Now the original Angela being a killer after to survive the accident?? What was her reason? Return to Sleepaway Camp had a lot of potential to explore the characters of first movie and be a great sequel but in the end, I felt like RTSC tried to be like the first movie but without that magic that only the first movie has.

ALAN!!!!!! 😏

And now he’s going to have to live with the shame of playing him for the rest of his life. Poor guy. Edit: Of course, he worked pretty well with the script he was given, wouldn’t you say?

Nobody Special true, but it’s not all bad. He actually is a singer now named Gibbz. So it’s not all bad for him. He’s doing pretty good now.

He should've did characters in horror comedies like Scary Movie or that Devil Baby movie.

I think as much as the dialogue and script are awful, that his performance (while not that good) shows that he's at least an actor who really *acts* and puts himself into roles. Reminds me of Mark Patton in Gay Elm Street (Patton was better than Alan though). There's a lot more dedication and immersion in these roles than a lot of actors who collect big checks for big movies.

On top of that. I read somewhere that in an AMA, he admitted that Alan was a very hatable character

I mean, the movie didn't exactly put much effort into it either.

Mulan put better effort into disguising as a man better than Angela

@@sidewinderenigma The fact the "Officer" has the same height as an average woman is so funny that I still don't believe Robert Hiltzik actually thought it would be a genius idea. That was the worst disguise I've ever seen in a movie since The Master of Disguise

Agreed. And what a horrid choice of, I suppose, protagonist(?) and awful writing all around not only character wise. Anyone with at least a faint love for the original could've done better, personally I entirely agree with you that there are some fan theories, specifically that one that would've been nice to explore or speculate on. They could've had something there in the right hands but alas.

Or just to have them both in the movie again would have been magic. How they missed that opportunity is beyond me. There's so many cool angles the storyline could have gone with. It could have been a really fun sequel instead of a dud.

Which one? The Angela who turned out to be the brother all along or the real sister?

@@allysanchez5630 The former. Peter who later became Angela.

@@ginnrollins211 oh, thanks.

I don't get it.

MrGMoney1944 The Cinema Snob’s real name is Brad Jones.

@@MrEmpoleon2010 awww

Homophobia will get you nowhere in life.

​@gilson1982 That's irrelevant, it was probably common in the time and place Brad dealt with school type social dynamics.

Cool Cat is a masterpiece 🙃

Cool Cat Saves The Kids is a better horror movie than Sleepaway Camp 2.

I mean cool cat doesn’t make anyone wanna stop bulling but return to sleep away camp shows some people bring it on themselves

Noooooooo shit lol

CoOL cAT loVEs To RuCk n RoOoWL

I would say yes regrow for 2020 make hairlines great again!

I shaved my head bald once before, and it sucks when it's freakin' cold.

Wait, doesn't Brad just shave his head?

​@@SpeedyEric1 I shave mine year round but I am always too warm, even in the winter months it is uncomfortable for me to have too much hair. I genuinely wish I was bald at this point, but my hair refuses to go away.

Brad said that he hates rewatching his old videos He also said his hair made him look 50

SCCU Sleepaway Camp Cinematic Universe

I wanna see the movie where Angela starts dating Jason and they go on a murder spree together

I know. Poor little guys.

I feel even worse for the older actors like Jonathan and Felissa and even worse for Issac Hayes. They deserved better!!

BohemianScandalous well there is Ronnie

RIP poor little tortured froggies 😓😖😓 I hate people sometimes. 😡

I feel bad for the frogs as well as the OG Sleepaway Camp actors. Sure, the whole “Sheriff Jerry is really Angela” thing was cool and it’s always great to see Ronnie, but Felissa Rose and Paul DeAngelo deserved to be brought back in a MUCH better movie, and so did Jonathan Tiersten. Ricky was the best character in the original Sleepaway Camp and in Jonathan’s own words, his appearance here is nothing more than a glorified cameo.

Your mother.

Still does.

Hey Jeremy, sorry for be late to reply ur comment but I need to say that I liked your idea - because Alan wouldn't just being sympatize enough for we care about him, but he would have also a character-development. I would like to see Alan being friends with the nerds, so when someone tries to pick the nerds, he would defense them back - like Ricky did, protecting Angela on the original.

Congratulations you are more talented than Return To Sleepaway Camp's writers!

It would’ve worked and given context and a plot, unlike this mess we just watched. As it stands I’d be fine if Alan fell off a cliff.

People like Alan become mass shooters because America is a horrible country that has no compassion for *all* people.

I was thinking the same thing!!

I knew what you mean ;) =)

So Alan is a human proxy in the sniper bully structure?

I don’t think anyone would let Allen anywhere near their junk

I believe the word for one who performs oral examinations is “the Gobber”

@@ginnrollins211 why every one rude to me

Talk about a missed opportunity.

Plus he’s obviously wearing the red shirt

like sid haig in 3 from hell the man wasn't in the best of health while they were making this movie and he had a larger role in mind, but he died before they could film anything further for him.

Indeed. What a waste of one of the funniest talents on South Park.

Yeah, about that... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Cold_Brook

I imagine Alan having a delightful sour milk aroma

wopjohn Sour milk, sweat and feces.

Allen smells worse than a caveman probably

Dave Lister from Red Dwarf had better hygiene than Alan!

the whole time i watched this movie all i could focus on was "does this kid ever change his clothes? or wash them?" I know movies have a limited wardrobe for obvious reasons but they at least try keep the actors clothes clean throughout a shoot.

Return to Sleepaway Camp is like Halloween (2018), if it fucking sucked.

It's not obvious because of the actress, but because of the disguised voice; it just screams that the person might not be who they say they are, and who would want to hide their identity in a Sleepaway Camp film?

I’ll be honest I thought he was just ducking around with the whole cop being Angela thing

Lol!

Its funny as hell when he says about when weed dies is he crying because his friend die or is it because he had all the weed him crying seem like he had all weed

"You are sued. So fucking sued." (The Cinema Snob, Sleepaway Camp review)

Unlike in Friday the 13th part 6 where they at least change the camp name, this movie said no let not do that.

Thank goodness that guy stood there yelling that. You know instead of rushing her so they can put this crazy killer down. She's not Jason, I'm pretty sure they can take her.

Thank you for that, Ricky. 🤨😏

Did you see how he just had a poker face while she spoke, then just broke out with that line?

Kirk Cameron still isn't worse than the lead in Triumph of the Will.

Or Last Ounce of Courage

@@SpeedyEric1 ok you got me there

@@Yeet-eq7ve NEITHER of them should be near children, heh.

@@Yeet-eq7ve nah, he'd just enslave them. Alan would be so obnoxious the kids would rather be around Angela. And if she wasnt around, they're drink bleach just to get away from him lol.

I know. He’s just a misunderstood, lonely outcast. He deserved better.

I remember that Charlie Brown didn't the back of his head look like a baseball? Then he actually got popular.

You are correct

Somehow Angela has returned…!

Craig Golightly

Doug “Funny” Walker

That would have been more interesting.

@@JimmyJohn89808 Yeah. I also have it in my headcanon that, after the first movie, Ricky's mom was sent to jail/the nuthouse for what she did to Peter/Angela. Ricky either goes through the Foster system or moves in with more sane relatives, becomes a cop, and tracks down Angela after she breaks out of jail/another nuthouse for another killing spree. And in my version, she's haunted by an imaginary version of Peter, the boy she used to be. Like a more messed-up version of the dynamic between Rex Reed and Raquel Welch's characters in "Myra Breckenridge" (look it up, and I forgot how I 1st came to know this).

@@louisduarte8763 Now, you see that you made a more interesting story than what they did here.

@@JimmyJohn89808 Thanks! I aught to watch that movie, just for '60's-'70's Raquel Welch, meow.

He's more akin to a live action cartman..I. an at least belive Alan wouldn't cross the raped his own mother line

I read this comment exactly with ten minutes left!

Exactly. When your original movie ends with, “THAT’S A DICK!” with all kinds of subtle foreshadowing and buildup to said dick, how are you supposed to top it?

Not at all. The series Is very solid.

2003, but your point still stands.

Nah, it really does look like an early 2000s film. I think it's just the environment that gives an old, 80s vibe.

Or 1994

The goofy female fashion matches the early 00s-mid 00s.

Look like it has the same atmosphere as Scream & Final Destination.

Not justifying his actions or anything, just that I know the kind of thing he went through, going back and fouth from being a bully to someone who gets bullied. Shame we never got a deeper look into his character, I feel like if this film was handled with more nuance and grace, he could've been a fascinating character.

Sorry But Not Sorry Jordan DeHart, but I'm not empathizing nor feeling sorry for an annoying antisocial hypocritical bully.

@@jordandehart6905 thats what i thought as well, alan would have worked so much better in an entirely separate non-horror movie. the first hour i almost forgot i was watching a sleepaway camp movie with how invested i was and then the last 30 minutes felt like they were just spamming in kills and hastily adding the angela twist to catch up to the name

Also, Snob, how dare you diss Napoleon Dynamite????

This was my reaction in 2013 😂

Just like any person who worked on 80s and 90s movies/TV shows when they have to work in 2000s productions

At least some of the characters in Friday the 13th are likable. I don't give a Shit about this dickhead

It reminds me of the scene where the troop hits private Pile with soap socks in Full Metal Jacket.

man I love that intro song. Its just so cozy to hear that music to the images of the upcoming review of whatever trainwreck film is going to be getting the snob treatment.

A more likable Cartman cannot be Cartman; rather, a reasonable facsimile. Also, Allen really is classic Cartman.

wingsandash no, classic cartman was funny

@@wingsandash I agree it's closer to early seasons Cartman where he's bitches & moans more often cause pple call him fatty whilst given Kyle shit for being Jewish. Before the infamous "Scott Tenorman Must Die" episode where Cartman "leveled up" shall we say.

And Eric Cartman. 😂