Reverse Engineering an M54 BMW Motor Mount off of Scan Data in Fusion 360

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Learn Everything About Design

Learn Everything About Design

Күн бұрын

In this video we are going to take a scan from a BMW Motor mount and look at how to work with it in Fusion 360 to make a motor mount with enough space for a Turbo. Scan data in any CAD program can be a headache but we will take a look at how it works with Fusion 360 and some tips to get the best results.

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@Todestelzer
@Todestelzer 2 жыл бұрын
That was helpful. There aren’t many videos about post processing industrial parts. Thanks for the tutorial.
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I am working on another mesh/reverse engineer video hopefully this week. It certainly isn't Fusion's strong suite but not everyone can or wants to spend $8000 on mesh software or fiddle with cheaper/free versions.
@smg950u
@smg950u Ай бұрын
For any other fusion newbies following this, there's been a change where 'Ground to Parent' is enabled by default when you make a new component. You have to right click the component and UnGround to Parent before you can align it. Great video!
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign Ай бұрын
Thanks for mentioning that! Yeah a bit of a shame its on by default. I turned it off in the user preferences for now.
@poolnahuat
@poolnahuat 2 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much!!! I tried align like 3 hours!!
@tookgareinperth5040
@tookgareinperth5040 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you , i have been waiting for this Video for 2 years , since i bought my 3D scanner
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Its much better with clean scan data so do your best to clean up your meshes first. Let me know if you have any questions.
@zpbeats3938
@zpbeats3938 2 жыл бұрын
This is epic info, beginner with 3d scanning and surfacing so these videos are invaluable as I start getting more useable results thanks to your great videos! Consider this a request for more 3d scanning/reverse engineering videos, love these!
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign 2 жыл бұрын
I have a few things lined up!
@zpbeats3938
@zpbeats3938 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet! I've got a few automotive related scans that I've done. Various interior dash scans and a fog light housing off a 4th Gen 4Runner if you ever need example meshes.
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign 2 жыл бұрын
Sure send em on over to support@caducator.com I have some meshes from a few others and i have a friend who scans professionally that offered to send me a few scans over to work with. It will be good to see the difference in the results. Also in the email let m know if you mind them being shared or just shown or not at all. Thanks!
@Terrestre1
@Terrestre1 Жыл бұрын
I agree. it's EPIC. And Fusion 360 is great
@Donovanx08
@Donovanx08 Жыл бұрын
same reason im here and only reason i subscribed. but also id love the final version of this engine mount i have a m54 on the engine stand in the garage waiting for a turbo!
@AdamWarwicker
@AdamWarwicker 2 жыл бұрын
This video is incredible! I'm new to 3D scanning and I wanted to create custom engine case protectors for motorcycles, I've been struggling with scanning data and then using Fusion to make accurate tooling, but your process is brilliant and the solution I needed!
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam, I actually have a friend that does this MotoCilino. He uses some high end scanners and reverse engineering tools to do this. With fusion the quality of the scan is going to be very important for fit of course! The method used here of mesh section sketches might work ok, but maybe using the forms to wrap the part as a base surface. If you want to share a scan with me I can take a look. support@caducator.com
@TravisHammeng
@TravisHammeng Жыл бұрын
as someone who has just started using 3d scanning for reverse engineering, this is super handy! Thanks a lot.
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign Жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@TravisHammeng
@TravisHammeng Жыл бұрын
@@LearnEverythingAboutDesign now to reverse engineer the ford 6 cyl head I just scanned 🤣 nice and simple
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign Жыл бұрын
@@TravisHammeng easy lol. this a 4.9l 6cyl head?
@TravisHammeng
@TravisHammeng Жыл бұрын
@@LearnEverythingAboutDesign nah a Barra (ford Australia 4l). I have got a turbo 4.9 in an old f truck though, and a spare head, so that might be on the list
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign Жыл бұрын
@@TravisHammeng awesome! I have a few 4.9l f series and broncos over the years. we didn't get the Barra here in the states but i know you all have them in everything!
@nickburley6942
@nickburley6942 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I'm trying to design a vent insert from a 93 cbr900 that has quite complex geometry, I understand abit more of meshs now thanks to your video. I'm working off a surprisingly good mobile phone 3d scan. The scans a bit bumpy, but nothing I can't work around. Thanks again
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Those early Fireblades were great bikes! If memory serves me they handled a bit better when the 17in front was swapped from the 600. I've done a bit of scanning motorcycles fairings to engineer parts to fit so if you get hung up some where shoot me an email support@caducator.com and I will do what I can to help out.
@nickburley6942
@nickburley6942 2 жыл бұрын
Will do thanks for the reply. Mine still has the 16inch front and is scary quick to turn in on, the 17's meant to be a bit more docile but better. I'm just designing some click in vents to finish the standard holes in the fairing off, planning on making a compression mould for compression forge carbon. Then going to design a new airbox and ram Air scoop. Thanks again, nick
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome plan! True ram air! That was a weird time for bike design where they started to fake it. Well a lot of time it ran to the airbox area but wasn't a true ram air.
@konradfrancis2572
@konradfrancis2572 Жыл бұрын
Hey really awesome video I was thinking about doing something similar with the motor mounts on my project car but I'm really new to 3d scanning and don't know whats a good scanner to get. So I was wondering what scanner did you use and do you know if theres a good way to get started with 3d scanning? I was looking at possibly getting a pop 2 but I don't know if thats a good place to start.
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign Жыл бұрын
Hi Konrad. This scan was provided to me. With 3d scanning there is going to be a barrier to entry if you are looking for extremely accurate results. Most of the Hobby scanners are getting pretty good BUT they have to be closer to the parts than a professional scanner, and tend to drop accuracy when you have to move/reposition them. Revo has a new scanner coming to the market that is supposed to be a great option but do believe it is a few thousand dollars USD. Making for Motorsport has some good videos using the CR-Lizard scanner and working in Fusion 360 to make parts. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jNaclbFm2teupWQ.html With something like a motor mount you might be ok just measuring parts. What I have done in the past is take a "rubbing" with paper on the mounting faces to get a bolt pattern off the block and a stock motor mount and measure as best you can. As far as which scanner to get. I would say get what you can afford. If you have an xbox kinect unit you can scan for free with Skanekt. I was going to do a video on this but wasn't real happy with the results. Some of the Creality options as well as Revo have good entry level packages that will let you get into it for $500-$1000 USD.
@eldar11
@eldar11 Жыл бұрын
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign Great video! I'm looking to do something similar with scan data, but Fusion isn't working with me on the plane creation. Is there some setting to look at a point cloud rather than mesh faces, or be able to select nodes? When I try to make a 3 point plane, none of the mesh is selectable.
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign Жыл бұрын
If you have a mesh, in order to select points on the mesh you need to go into direct edit mode. When you go to the Mesh tab you should see "direct edit". Without that I don't think there is a way to directly select a point on a mesh.
@lachgummi1118
@lachgummi1118 Жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks a lot for your channel. Starting to get into this subject currently and finding someone who combines scaning, modelling, printing and automotive is fantastic. Since I dont have a scanner yet, I was wondering if you could support me with the M54 Scan? Do have a 323i and aiming to V10 Swap. And for that I am motivated to train with a scan that is somewhat related to my car. Thanks Claudius
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign Жыл бұрын
Thanks Claudius! The scan data was sent to me. Ill ask if i can share it but generally that answer is no from most users. A buddy of mine has several BMWs including a few swapped cars. Currently he is swapping a ford v8 into an e36 and i think he swapped the motor in his manual e46 wagon. This scan was like a 3rd hand thing.
@lachgummi1118
@lachgummi1118 Жыл бұрын
@@LearnEverythingAboutDesign Swapped the V10 into a E46 wagon? Is there any documentation in the internet? Would be great if you could ask the one regarding the scan data! It just for learning how to... Thanks again for your content and your answer. Its rare that people are skilled AND can explain! Your channel will grow organicly. furrther and further. I am sure about that.
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign Жыл бұрын
@@lachgummi1118 Not v10 sorry. He said it was the "big" motor that never came in the e46 wagon. He also did a 6 speed swap. Im guessing that would be the 3.2l? I asked about the scan and i'll let you know. You can also email me support@caducator.com
@lachgummi1118
@lachgummi1118 Жыл бұрын
@@LearnEverythingAboutDesign thanks a lot!!!
@jaronnguyen2677
@jaronnguyen2677 11 күн бұрын
May i ask which 3d scanner was used to take this mesh model?
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign 11 күн бұрын
I am not sure. Someone sent me the scan. I was told they used a professional scanner BUT it doesn't appear to be. I have lots of scan videos using many of the common consumer scanners on this channel with mesh downloads so you can see what they produce. Is there a certain scanner you are looking at?
@Shipboxgarage
@Shipboxgarage 2 жыл бұрын
What did you use for your scanner?
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign 2 жыл бұрын
This scan was sent to me by a buddy. It was a hobby grade scanner I believe. I have an updated scan to part video I am working on showing the difference between a hobby grade scanner and a professional scanner and scan software to highlight the difference.
@Shipboxgarage
@Shipboxgarage 2 жыл бұрын
@@LearnEverythingAboutDesign If you could do something showing the lidar scan feature from a phone, cleaning that up, and then reverse engineering that. That would be awesome. It's what i'm struggling on now because "hobby grade" is still like $5k haha
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shipboxgarage Well hobby grade is Xbox Kinect scanner and Skanect up to something like RevoPop. Using those or a phone will get you a good visual but nothing really accurate enough to make a part off of. What part/parts are you trying to make off a lidar phone scan?
@Shipboxgarage
@Shipboxgarage 2 жыл бұрын
@@LearnEverythingAboutDesign I'm trying to scan interior parts and then find a software that I can clean them up in and have a mold made
@1kapittaolipex
@1kapittaolipex Жыл бұрын
dude you sound similar to thelockpickinglawyer youtube channel
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign Жыл бұрын
LOL, that is a first.
@havasss
@havasss Жыл бұрын
Drawing from scratch would be much easier probably without any scan data. Your friend is your caliper.
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign
@LearnEverythingAboutDesign Жыл бұрын
1000% in this case. this is a conversation I frequently have. I think the scan data can be valuable but also painful to work with especially if its low res.
@buckwalker
@buckwalker Жыл бұрын
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@havasss
@havasss Жыл бұрын
@@buckwalker Generally people think that 3D scanners gives you solid model with a drawing history =)
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