REVIEW: 2020 Ragley MMMBOP Aluminum Hardtail

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REVIEW: 2020 Ragley MMMBOP Aluminum Hardtail - Hardtail Party

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4 жыл бұрын

In this episode we review the 2020 Ragley MMMBOP. This is the aluminum version of the blue pig, an aggressive 27.5 hardtail. In this espisode we have it set up with 27.5x2.8 tires. Ragley claims they "changed the tubing cross sections on the rear triangle to give a little more comfort on those long rides but at the same time retain stiffness for power transfer to the rear wheel." Bold claims. Does the ride quality match those claims?
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@christopherhenkel1788 3 жыл бұрын

“That’s an interesting place to park your bikes”. Loved that

@jasonlimweizen 4 жыл бұрын

ragley is so underrated

@radagascar1 4 жыл бұрын

Most d e f. Big wig in blue is sick

@Mesa3077Boogie 4 жыл бұрын

@@radagascar1 oh snap you got dem big wiggs? March 2020 shipment, or.?

@nathanb101 4 жыл бұрын

I just built a bigwig up on 29”s with an mrp Ribbon this bike is dope

@TheRealSamPreece 3 жыл бұрын

Their geometry is near perfection imo. It is pretty hard to source these bikes irl. I have to purchase online as there are no dealers in New Zealand.

@EireFirst2024 3 жыл бұрын

I would have to say it's not that they're underrated, they aren't the money machines like big brands, resulting in them not being able to stretch out the advertising as much.

@giuseppes1943 4 жыл бұрын

I finished few months ago my first hardtail build-from-scratch...it's a Ragley Marley, yari 140 (with updated 2021debonair), mrp ramp control, mullet configuration (29" 2.6 front, 27.5+ 2.8 rear), Slx 1x11, shimano xt m8000 brakes and discs (203f, 180r), rental fatbar +40mm handlebar... It's just amazing...I ended up riding it more than my full 160mm even in techy-rough descent.

@certifiedlawnpros 4 жыл бұрын

Giuseppe Scalia I just started my Marley build with a 130mm fox34 29er fork and 20mm rise bars, but I’m sticking to 27.5 front and back. So my geo will be a little more aggressive. GX build, XT brakes, 150 dropper, and custom Rasta themed rims being made right now (hope hubs with 35mm rim and 2.6 minions)

@charlesbisbee3014 4 жыл бұрын

I came across your channel from the Pinkbike comment section and I just have to say what a gem of a channel you have! This is by far one of my favorite MTB channels I have come across in terms of quality, content, and of course hardtail awesomeness!

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I really appreciate the kind words. I'm glad people spoke up on pinkbike and recommended it.

@0CandyxPop0 4 жыл бұрын

I was so sold on this bike and missed my chance on this years last restock and my not willing to wait till 2021 butt pulled the trigger on a Big Al! Fingers crossed it's just as lovely. I'll be sure to send Ragley a message about the influence your channel had in me settling on their brand!

@patrickobrienstr 3 жыл бұрын

How are you enjoying your big al?

@joshuawagner4872 4 жыл бұрын

My riding buddy rides this bike and he loves it. I’m riding a Nukeproof scout and together we blast down the trails and others look at us and think how is this possible on a hardtail😂🚵🏻👍🤘 Best moment ever. Keep doing this reviews I love it!

@hambo76 4 жыл бұрын

@Neliq I'd say the mmmbop as it has a 63.75 degree head angle and a longer fork.

@renenavarro4121 4 жыл бұрын

when I first got my NProof scout I thought nothing could replace that bike till I built my Marley with a 140 and eagle set up. The Marley is a riot and has given my scout some serious run for the money. I just cant stop riding it.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I really want to try a maley. On paper it looks like the perfect all rounder. Which bike has the harsher frame between the two?

@timmclaughlin4748 4 жыл бұрын

I love mine! This is the review I have been waiting for, before I bought mine I couldn’t find much of a review on it. Decided to just go for it and I’m so happy I did!

@Mesa3077Boogie 4 жыл бұрын

Where do you live mang? Get this, there are 3 other Ragley riders here near Cincinnati Dayton area. Crazy fate for such a rare bike brand in the states

@Mesa3077Boogie 4 жыл бұрын

You nailed it man. you really do have to be riding this bike at speed to feel in full control. It's less controlled at slower speeds. it's like every time I stop the handlebars drop to the side due to the HTA. not a huge deal, but I could barely ride handless without going 20 miles an hour on a road. Overall, loving mine with 150mm fork and upgraded 35mm rims

@winnguyen443 2 жыл бұрын

You sold me this bike ! I’ve had it for 2 months! Very very happy! Thanks bro!

@HamboMTB 4 жыл бұрын

Been waiting on my purple Mmmbop frame since early April, on the fence about canceling the order. Not anymore, thanks Steve your review is making the wait seem like it’s worth it. Can’t wait to build this one up.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

It's worth it.

@thembrown 4 жыл бұрын

They said on instagram that new frames are due end of July

@Dark__Thoughts 4 жыл бұрын

@@thembrown They came in a couple days ago. The black / grey ones were all gone after about 5 hours, and I think a few small and large pruple ones made it to the next day or so (in my time zone - wouldn't be surprised if the entire stock was gone in less than 24 hours).

@danielrgusa 4 жыл бұрын

You may be tired but we can still get a sense of your excitement and we can tell when you like a bike! Great work!

@MrRedPony01 4 жыл бұрын

I just recently built a Bigwig. I love it. I love long slack hardtails. And surprisingly, it climbs tech REALLY well.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I hope to try a bigwig soon.

@MrRedPony01 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty it's a good bike. I run it with a 140mm 29+ fork, but about to swap it for a 150mm 29er fork. Then I can bump it to 160 if needed, but I doubt it.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I think i'd run it with a 140mm myself. I perfer 120-140mm forks on my hardtails.

@MrRedPony01 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty I don't really love the fork on it, but I love the Geo. So I'm looking for a better fork with roughly the same axle to crown measurement. It's easier to find one that's a 29er with more travel though.

@davidm2843 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty I'll keep my eyes open for that. Looking at 29er hardtails, considering a move back to hardtail from my full suss Commencal Meta AM. BFeMAX, Big Wig, Scout 290...too many good bikes to choose from!

@johnnyd614 4 жыл бұрын

That was an awesome review. Can’t tell you how important your reviews are especially with many of these companies being direct to consumer.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I only wish the companies themselves knew the value of them so I could get more bikes for review. Thanks for watching.

@Jharfouch 4 жыл бұрын

Best mtb channel on the youtube

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

You guys rock, thanks for watching. It's comments like these that keep me going.

@VendetaBrown 4 жыл бұрын

hardtail party guys all of us can help with this.... if you love this channel, email companies that you want to see and mention Steve and this channel. You’d be surprised how much value doing that has. I’ve emailed Cotic and went back and forth at length.... and I think Steve just got that Solaris in recently after the BFE!! Let’s help him pump this channel up.

@Dark__Thoughts 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty Their homepage still runs without SSL encryption (yours too btw) and you have to visit their Facebook page to find proper news. To me this says that marketing isn't their strong suit, unfortunately. Right now it is probably likely that they also simply did not have the stock available for review bikes though. Maybe they can improve on that after things settle down a bit, because the demand for bikes is likely going to go up in the next years, and I think we all want to see well thought out frames like these on the market.

@AdrenalineIsLife 4 жыл бұрын

I've been waiting anxiously for this review. Was curious to see your thoughts on it. The Ragley punches well above its class. 🤘

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

This is my favorite hardtail I've tried for under $600 (frame price).

@dinglenutzog Жыл бұрын

Ordered my mmmbop complete yesterday. Largely because of this review. I can't wait!

@TheChillBison 2 жыл бұрын

I love the cleanness of having cable tucked away, but I get the preference for external routing. The great thing about this bike is the cable routing is so clean, it wouldn't make me miss internal.

@TLG84 4 жыл бұрын

YES! So glad you managed to get your hands on one of these. I've been interested in Ragley since seeing a Blue Pig in the UK last year. Really enjoyed hearing your opinion on the MMMBOP. Keep up the great work, loving your channel!!

@bikeswithmike9415 4 жыл бұрын

Calls for a 150 so your spot on. They were out of mmmbop so i got the marley and slapped a 140 on it. Feels mint

@WestAustinWizard 3 жыл бұрын

I am gonna get a Marley frame because they are out of stock on mmmbop frames everywhere. Are you able to fit 2.8 tires on the Marley?

@JonWMS888 4 жыл бұрын

I have one these in purple and I ride it more than my canyon strive

@Kamren256 4 жыл бұрын

Where did you buy yours?

@JonWMS888 4 жыл бұрын

@@Kamren256 Frame was purchased via Chain Reaction Cycles back in March or April.

@Mesa3077Boogie 4 жыл бұрын

@@JonWMS888 right on. One of the few! You set up stock alerts? I did, and hounded the manufacturer. Daily. Till that one shiny Tuesday at 330am Eastern time. Bam. Got on the site and got the mmmbop !

@JonWMS888 4 жыл бұрын

Mesa3077Boogie no I was just browsing frames, saw it and clicked buy

@Sam-oc6vd 4 жыл бұрын

@@JonWMS888 I'm thinking of buying this bike on top bike do u recommend this bike?

@0CandyxPop0 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for this review! Doing research for a new hardtail for when they come back in stock and have been looking at bikes like the nukeproof scout, commencal meta and mmmbop and I think I might be sold on the mmmbop! great to hear you compare the meta and the mmbop during the ride

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I'm also interested in the Marley/piglet. I think I'd be happy with any bike in ragley's lineup. They're killing it.

@simonupchurch1234 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty Just got a Piglet, loving it so far. About to swap to 2.4s front and rear - the 2.6s are a pretty draggy for the trails round here.

@canetsbe 3 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty Do review the Piglet! I just got one and am curious how you'd set it up.

@tmwei396 4 жыл бұрын

I just built up the steel version of this bike, the 2020 Blue Pig, with a 150mm fork and Eagle. I built it with a bunch of spare parts I have in the garage with the intention of selling it. If I didn't already have a hardtail I would be keeping it.

@wedie2soon Жыл бұрын

Just ordered one of these. I got the silver color that comes with the Marzocchi Bomber fork. Super pumped to hit the local trails. Thanks for the great review on this bike.

@ooklamoc4411 Жыл бұрын

Almost finished building my new Mmmbop up and just checked this review. Glad to see I made a good choice!

@cornish_boy6235 2 ай бұрын

I’ve just picked up a 2023 frame for cheap so am looking forward to building it up.

@alfredace 4 жыл бұрын

I have a Ragley Piglet. It's a 130mm travel steel bike. Also a bike that is more in control the faster you go. Its fantastic.

@bikerdhill 4 жыл бұрын

love your channel Steve, even though I don't ride hardtails, it's nice to learn about their ride characteristics

@josereneducharme142 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris to lend out his Ragley.

@shaun_89 4 жыл бұрын

Nice to see some good reviews on ragley bikes. I've just ordered a big al,sadly it won't be delivered until at least August. It will be my first 'decent' hardtail. I think the ragley's look superb and offer good spec for the money.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

The Big Al is the ragley that interests me the most in their line. Congrats! I hope to get one to review soon.

@shaun_89 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty yeh can't wait to get out on it. It was a toss up between the ragley big al and the sonder transmitter. Same price but the big al won me over on looks.

@robertcoates2752 4 жыл бұрын

I love my Ragley Big Wig. I had bought a second hand Niner WFO9 that had some great parts like a 150mm Fox 34. When a weld broke in the BB area on the Niner, I got a Big Wig frame and swapped most of the parts over (minus adding TRP Slant T4 brakes, a new dropper (due to different seat post sides) and new rear wheel). It has been excellent and haven't missed a full squish at all.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Rock on! welcome to the party

@mountaingoat8788 4 жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this One!! It is an Awesome Frame for the Price! My Gf Just Got Her's built up to a rideable state with a few Old Parts from her last bike. she's got size Small in a Beautiful Purple paint.. got a great Deal on Spank oozy wheel set and she got 150mm Marzocchi Bomber Z2 fork solid HT build still not fully done with her customizing..

@BudoDave76 3 жыл бұрын

Been wanting to build up a hardtail for a while. Found the Mmmbop cheap and after this review, it was a no brainer.

@hardtailparty 3 жыл бұрын

Congrats, it's a cool bike.

@stevez3041 4 жыл бұрын

Great review and I loved the category slide bar!

@shaunroach7829 4 жыл бұрын

Great review, never heard of this bike before and that’s what makes your channel great 👍!!! Awesome job keep the videos coming your subscribers are climbing this channel is getting bigger and better!!!!!

@Mesa3077Boogie 4 жыл бұрын

Check em out man. My mmmbop's hella COVID-19 man

@2wheelsonline Жыл бұрын

Don't know if this is of any interest to anyone but... I got a new, Large Mmmbop frame (Parma Violet 😍) last week and built it with 27.5" wheels with the idea to run it 'stock' at first just to get a feel for it and then with a mullet setup. I rode it on some muddy, flat trails close to home which aren't that testing but a start. I'm running Fox Rhythm 34mm,130mm travel forks which will steepen the seat tube angle a bit. It's slack enough at the front as it comes. Front tyre was a Nobby Nic 2.25" x 27.5" and rear was a Maxxis Shorty 2.3" x 27.5" both on 30mm internal rim widths. The bike felt good but hard work through the boggy trails. I got a 'base' feel after riding about 6 miles. Then back home to swap bits. Switching to a mullet setup, the front tyre is a Bontrager XR4 2.4" x 29" on a 25mm internal rim width wheel and a Bontrager XR4 2.8" x 27.5" on the same 30mm wheel as earlier. The Mmmbop immediately felt better on the front. Slightly slacker steering/seat tube angles but I didn't really notice that. The bigger tyre on the front could account for the grip but the steering of the bike felt much better. The rear felt good as well, not so much for extra grip but seemed to roll faster even though the XR4 is over 100g heavier than the Shorty 2.3". I'm going to ride it on some proper off road trails next and will update this post as to how it feels out in the wild.

@davidperry7266 4 жыл бұрын

Great review. I'm looking at building a single speed hardtail later this year, and have been looking at using the MMMBOP frame. I think this review has settled it for me, thank you for reviewing it.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Are you going to use an ebb or a chain tensioner pulley?

@davidperry7266 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailpartyProbably a pulley. I've got my Laufey set up as single at the moment, and that thus far doesn't seem to need it, weirdly.

@MMcG25 4 жыл бұрын

Those trail sections through the trees etc - that was awesome footage. Looks like such a fun section(s) of trail to shred through!

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

It's a really fun trail.

@barfights602 3 жыл бұрын

I recently bought a 2020 steel Ragley Blue Pig and I ride it more than my V1 Ripmo...Ragley makes amazing hardtails!

@hardtailparty 3 жыл бұрын

Yes they do! Congrats on the blue pig.

@kaedeschulz5422 4 жыл бұрын

I also want to get one. The Purple one is basically my dream frame for a HT.

@Dark__Thoughts 4 жыл бұрын

Same with the dark grey one for me. Keep an eye out, they expect a charge for the end of this month or the beginning of the next. As far as I can tell they will probably sell out very quickly though - so don't hesitate if you see it available.

@jeffloucks2120 4 жыл бұрын

@@Dark__Thoughts I'd take either color (colour?) :)

@Dark__Thoughts 4 жыл бұрын

@@jeffloucks2120 color is American English and colour is British English. The purple looks hot (especially on the proper photos, not the white ones), but I have too much of a fetish for black stuff, which as far as aggressive hardtails go is very rare this year. Kinda why I might jump on it, if I can get the chance, despite having no idea how to build a bike.

@rol9832 4 жыл бұрын

Just ordered the purple one cant wait

@kaedeschulz5422 4 жыл бұрын

@@rol9832 AWESOME! Sadly the Blue Pig that i will build is probably not going to be anywhere under 14kg heavy but hey it will have other things going for it as steel is absorbing vibrations more for example.

@mr.steebs5070 2 жыл бұрын

Great review. Just got my mmmbop and love it!! It does it all. I may try a 140mm fork in the future, but really enjoying the 150! So forgiving and comfortable, it doesn't fight you at all, it parties, it's smooth and does all the work. Thanks Steve!!

@hardtailparty 2 жыл бұрын

It's a special bike, congrats.

@phoebediehl 4 жыл бұрын

Great channel/content! That bike looks sweet in a polished frame but I still love my 2 year old Chameleon (your review sealed the deal) Those trails look like a western movie set!

@matthewcarson1280 4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with your analysis here. My daily driver is an Mmmbop and it is so much fun. If you're looking for an underforked ragley try the one designed for 130mm of travel, the Marley.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I have a hunch I'd LOVE the marley.

@S1XTY7 Жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty good to know!

@arod4084 4 жыл бұрын

Great review like always and for making the trails look easy.

@michaelwear1695 4 жыл бұрын

The mmmbop and blue pig are amazing, super aggressive. I'd be really interested to see what you think about the Ribble HT 725. Similar geo, steel and from a company that usually only sells road bikes. If you can get your hands on one, it would be great to see a review.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I've reached out to Ribble several times but no luck.

@HatefullKilla 4 жыл бұрын

Well, I just ordered the Vitus Nucleus. It was honestly the main bike I was looking at. Waited almost 2 months and settled with the VR instead of the VRS. Didn't even see this bike when I was looking around.

@billyruben116 3 жыл бұрын

Did you get your nucleus yet, and what do you think about it, now that you have it?

@eatsleepswimbait1494 4 жыл бұрын

I was able to pick up a 2019 frame for more than reasonable price and serves as my super budget build with only a 1x10 setup (11-42). Off the back, I noticed a difference from my previous 2010 rockhopper. Not as much vibration and harshness. Much kudos to the builders and satisfied although I missed a deal for a production privee frame. Thanks again for the review, haven't completed build so this review helps alot. Would love to see if you can get a Marino frame review.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Marino isn't interested in sending me a frame at this time. Unfortunately production privee has pretty short reach and outdated geo on their models. I hope they make a revised frame, because tgier Shan gt has the coolest chainstays around.

@eatsleepswimbait1494 4 жыл бұрын

Good to know for the privee. Thanks, keep up the good work.

@alternatecanidate 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely ecstatic for this review! Been super curious what you would think of it and delightfully surprised with how much you enjoyed it. Thank you for all that you do, you're amazing. I thought it was awesome that you mentioned how you could just forget about the bike and just ride and enjoy. My ragley Marley has the same effect for me which I absolutely love, allows me to enjoy myself more and focus on having fun and building skills to become a better rider. Don't worry about energy levels in your voice, as someone who rides every day(kind of a necessity for testing new sections of trail and features on my local trails that I build on that recently got legitimized through our park district 👍) it's hard to always seem like a ball of energy and besides you're more of a beast than most especially riding ss

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man. I'd love to try a marley one day, it looks like a fantastic trail bike. I'm gravitating more towards 130mm forks anyway on my hardtails, and it looks like a great match.

@alternatecanidate 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty if you think you could review a small frame with basic spec I'm sure we could figure a way I could ship mine for you to try. Realize it's not ideal for you and you probably have better methods and access to test bikes but the offer always stands. Absolutely love the channel and all the knowledge you offer.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind offer. I'd need a medium or a large (probably a large) for how I like to ride. I hope to get ahold of one eventually.

@user-fw8xx8lf6r 3 ай бұрын

That was very entertaining, would 140mm on the front disrupt the frames geometry, Ragley suggests 150 -160mm

@tjay_mac 3 жыл бұрын

The Marley has the 130mm fork, 65.5° with the same CS at 425mm. I just picked up a frame. I hope the frame ride as well as this Mmmbop you reviewed. Great review btw, thanks Steve and to Chris for lending his bike for us viewers... 👊

@michaelderr9736 3 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking of getting a Marley too. How do you like yours so far? Does it compare to the Mmmbop review?

@tjay_mac 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelderr9736 - I have both Marley and Mmmbop. I would suggest the Marley. The Mmmbop's front end feels high and you can feel that SA is steep. Lowering the fork makes the SA feel even more steep. The Marley to me, is balance. My weight is dead center and the SA/Reach is spot on.

@michaelderr9736 3 жыл бұрын

@@tjay_mac Great, thanks for the input!

@S1XTY7 Жыл бұрын

@@tjay_mac have you ever ridden a Big Al in comparison to the Marley? @hardtailparty's review of the Big Al is glowing i just feel like i'd like the 27.5 more (i really need to ride some to compare)

@tjay_mac Жыл бұрын

@@S1XTY7 , I haven't unfortunately. Only the Specialized Fuse 29 for an aluminum HT. If I was to buy a HT now, I would buy the Big Al only because of the resale value. If you like to run plus tires (2.6-2.8), I would go with the Marley. If you like 2.4-2.5, I would go with Big Al. The Plus tires tends to have this bouncy feel while the 2.5-2.5 tires have this damped feel to them (MaxxTerra or MaxxGrip compounds btw).

@destin-danser 3 жыл бұрын

As an mmmbop owner who lives in the northeast, this video gave me anxiety. The idea of riding where I could OTB into a cactus is horrifying.

@Ketchiiii 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you verry much for this review! I preordered the 2021 frame and i am verry excited about the build up and the ride in summer! thanks for your content :)

@hardtailparty 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent choice, it's a great bike

@aztecxger3411 Жыл бұрын

i bought mine based on this review, similar build, but i opted for a lyric ultimate 150mm (love that fork!). This review truly captures the traits of this bike. it loves shredding and from a mechanics standpoint this is a dream (outside cable routing)! Few things to note during build up: - steerer tube was a bit contaminated with paint making the cup installation on the upper side a bit of a struggle (but worked in the end using patience :D ) - seat tube is straight but inner diameter is unfortunatly not constant (widens down the hole) so heavier riders might face creeking issues from the dropper post. for me (65 kg) its only an issue under hard pedalling. other than that quality is top notch. for the 400€ i paid, this frame is a no brainer. So Much FUN!

@hardtailparty Жыл бұрын

It surprised me when I learned that most seat tubes are indeed only narrow at the top. It's pretty common these days. It kinda blew my mind, but since that's where the clamp is, it doesn't pose any problems.

@bedsidecabinet1 4 жыл бұрын

Good review. I have the bluepig (steel same geo) and a riding buddy has the mmmbop. Bluepig is more compliant but heavier (swings and roundabouts). You can't go wrong with a Ragley.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Some people say the mmmbop is more compliant and some say the blue pig is more compliant. i hope I get to try the blue pig, big wig, marley, and big al out someday.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

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@VicenteOcanaplus 3 жыл бұрын

I got a stock alert for a mmmbop frame on a famous ecommerce site, came here to watch review, back to site and i just bought last one in stock! These sell like popcorn :) will try a mullet experiment with 140 fork

@kevinc3411 2 жыл бұрын

Would love to see a review and the Nukeproof Scout 27.5

@bicketybam 4 жыл бұрын

Great review, great lines on that frame.

@telldavewilliams 4 жыл бұрын

I had the 2019 Mmmbop in Medium (same geo as 2020) and replaced it with a 2020 Blue Pig in Large back in Feb. I'm 5'10 and a bit. I bent the Alu downtube riding into a tree head on at speed. Both are brilliant frames for the price IMO, although there are lighter, better, more expensive steel alternatives. You've got to pay a lot more to notice it though. The ride quality is fairly similar between them, which shows how well they've have made the Alu frame, but the steel is more compliant and stronger. The size and weight change was far far more noticeable than the frame material change when I swapped. I run a pretty progressive 150mm Pike, and definitely wouldn't want 160mm. A less progressive 140mm fork would work well too. The geo means it loves the steeps, really love it. But it's great on everything. Only time I want a full sus, or a 29er, is over repeated square edged hits or super greasy roots, but I'm running 2.35 tyres and some 2.6's at lower pressure would help that a bit.

@Nit2315 4 жыл бұрын

Lighter steel alternative ?

@telldavewilliams 4 жыл бұрын

@@Nit2315 my Large chromoly Blue Pig frame is nearly 0.5kg heavier on the scales than a similar sized 853 frame. Makes it comparatively more planted and stable, and less playful and lively.

@doubleL_S Жыл бұрын

I'm close between this and the Scout. I think I'm going for this. The scout is just a bike and I want something more endro.

@d4bid15 3 жыл бұрын

I have a Marin San Quentin 2020 and found someone selling this frame and it's the purple one which I love!! I'm torn! Hahaha!

@nighttimedaytime92 3 жыл бұрын

It's a bad idea to watch too many reviews of you... Now I don't know of I schould get the MMMBOP or the Big AL 😂

@Isaacchuwy 3 жыл бұрын

What did you end up getting? Cos I’m in the same dilemma as you 😂

@PhonoRythmX 3 жыл бұрын

Love your reviews, glad i discovered your channel who helps me to choose my next bike 😊 Do you prefer the mmmbop or the Middlechild aluminium V2 ?

@yamahschector 10 ай бұрын

I wish I had the time energy and money to own a few different hardtail bikes. So many good ones out there.

@amendia66 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome! I love my Ragley!

@50mtb44 4 жыл бұрын

Steve, this is awesome. Been looking for inexpensive bike yet capable for my teenage son (still growing). Been looking at Ragley, Nukeproof, and Vitus for modern geo. Thanks for riding one ... and giving honest feedback.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I'm a huge fan of Ragley, especially their aluminum bikes. This one is perfect for shredders who aren't super tall. Little guys (like me) often struggle with the size of 29er wheels.

@50mtb44 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty sweet feedback. I was wondering about 29ers being too big. Really enjoyed your review of the Ragley mmmbop. Also your video on the low supply. Well done. Keep rocking.

@ronaldomac4918 3 жыл бұрын

I know mate can't get one for love nor money....!!!! Great vid and content :) Big up from England...

@jacobcroyle7758 4 жыл бұрын

Nukeproof Scout 290 review.

@mattdavis2978 4 жыл бұрын

Nice review. I almost bought 1 of these to build up in lock-down, gutted I didn't now Apparently the alloy (mmm bop) frame rides better than the steal (blue pig) model be good to see a back to back review

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I'd love tondo a back to back. Unfortunately ragley is out of bikes right now and I can't get my hands on a blue pig. I wouldn't be surprised if this rode better than the pig. This frame feels better than most steel frames.

@chrispemberton4931 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve got a 160mm pike on mine. Already bought a 140mm air spring before I watched this. My only concern is more pedal strikes if I lower the travel. Bit other than that, I love it. 👍

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'd have the same concerns at 140. The bb is low. 160 is definitely too much for this frame though

@AdrenalineIsLife 4 жыл бұрын

The Marley would be better suited to a 140mm fork than the Mmmbop.

@magiting12 4 жыл бұрын

nice review, i like also this ragley mmmbop cheers....

@jtsimaras 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for review ....ended up getting one and love it 👍

@Paulmtb 2 жыл бұрын

Got the 2021 Mmmbop.. Turned it into a Mulletbop with 140mm forks.. I would totally loan you it if I could

@patchesthejaybird8431 4 жыл бұрын

You might also try the new Marzocchi Z2. It is much less costly than Fox's other forks, and has a simpler, more user serviceable damper. I bet your buddy is ready for his bike back! Hey, as long as the single speed doesn't trash your knees... I tried single speed once, 15 years ago, glad I dumped it like a hot rock. It stressed my knees too much, especially hard climbs. Here I am 15 years later, and my knees are doing ok.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

If I can get my hands on one for review, I will, but suspension forks are super tough to get.

@stratossounds 4 жыл бұрын

One does not simply say 'MMMBOP' without saying "ba duba dop"

@jeffpower6473 4 жыл бұрын

I wish I didn’t get this joke 😆

@SUPERCOOLZZ 4 жыл бұрын

@@jeffpower6473 yeeeei yeaaah

@theol337 4 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for the song the come on immediately when he said mmmbop!

@Mesa3077Boogie 4 жыл бұрын

Did you see them doods all grown up doing that song acoustic? Them bros can sing!

@jeffloucks2120 4 жыл бұрын

I've heard you say the Blue pig is the steel version of the Mmmbop and it's actually attainable currently. Wondering how compliant it is vs other steel frames.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I hear good things. I had a friend shop me a blue pig to answer this very question, but it never made it to me.

@peterides9568 4 жыл бұрын

I am waiting on an insurance payout (for my XTC, no less), but I am going to get a 2020 Blue Pig Race. I can't wait.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent choice. Hit up my buddy Omar at the bike bondsman for a killer deal

@peterides9568 4 жыл бұрын

I'll check him out. I was lining up to order from Chain Reaction- My friend just ordered a Ragley Piglet from them.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

He's cheaper than chain reaction. I always like supporting the small guys, especially when they're cheaper than the big guys.

@peterides9568 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty Unfortunately, shipping out of the US is just crazy... Thanks for the heads up anyhow , it was worth a shot

@beckymaves6748 4 жыл бұрын

The Mmmbob has been on my radar for a while. It's official once my bike shop gets their next Ragley shipment there is a Small Mmmbob reserved for me. This video just confirmed that it is the bike I want. I have a funny feeling it will become my Go-To bike since I prefer Hardtails...my full squish is nice but there's just something about a Hardtail (probably related to the fact my first MTB was a mid-90's full rigid).

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I'm really intrigued by the marley too.

@beckymaves6748 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty we were looking at that too, and the Piglet. They went from being a odd ball suggestion from our bike shop (I told my mechanic what I wanted in a bike and he introduced me to Ragley) to being a Ragley super fan.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

@@beckymaves6748 I'm a ragley super fan too. The piglet and mmmbop are sold out for the rest of the year (unless your shop already got an order in)

@beckymaves6748 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty they're orders go in in the next couple of weeks. They told me even my Mmmbop won't be until January ish maybe earlier. Which is fine, worth the wait.

@chronicnoob8673 4 жыл бұрын

For sizing reference how tall are you?

@juricagaloic557 4 жыл бұрын

i was between ragley mmbop and ribble ht 725 steel mtb, at the end i bought ribble, if i had more money i would probably bought both bikes, hardtails rules!!!!......p.s. ribble runs 150 mm fork and is spot on!!

@czechnolike 4 жыл бұрын

Ribble, never heard of that one yet. You in UK? How is the frame "chatter" and small pump compliance?

@juricagaloic557 4 жыл бұрын

@@czechnolike i live in croatia, RIBBLE is UK brand,their main focus is on road bikes ,but they also make steel and titanium hardtails. Geo is similar to ragley mmbop, i have a steel frame ,zero chatter,less stiff then my previous focus aluminum bike,it rides like a dream,very comfortable.....low,long,slack...but great climber and even greater on descents

@czechnolike 4 жыл бұрын

@@juricagaloic557 Croatia! I hear they have a good caving scene and some great LED headlamps are manufactured there. Do you venture underground?

@juricagaloic557 4 жыл бұрын

@@czechnolike hahahaha....NO...i am much more comfortable on the surface..

@tavojuarez1987 4 жыл бұрын

maybe you could review a NS Eccentric Alu in the future.

@Dark__Thoughts 4 жыл бұрын

I know it stand for North Shore, but I feel I should not ride them in Germany, especially not in combination with an Osprey Backpack.

@frankiedoodle8984 3 жыл бұрын

Got my 2021 mmmbop frame in olive green last week and built it up. Have a 140mm bomber z2 fork on it and think I will leave it at 140 as it shreds. Really notice the control in corners! Great review and one of the main reasons I chose the mmmbop over the nukeproof scout so thanks

@coloradolivin27.52 3 жыл бұрын

Have you noticed more pedal strikes with the 140mm fork?

@AeroPrixma 4 жыл бұрын

Man, watching those hardtails at sedona makes me very excited for when i can purchase the nukeproof scout 275 expert. What's your favorite travel range for a hardtail.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

120-130mm

@jackmcandle6955 3 жыл бұрын

You have to kinda hate yourself a little bit to take a hardtail on those trails but a great testing ground for checking frame compliance, I’m thankful for Steve doing the hard miles for us, I’m looking at a ragley Marley for my local easy trails that are overbiked with my FS giant trance

@Davis18361 4 жыл бұрын

I wanna ride in Sedona just for the tire noise

@Redrush11 4 жыл бұрын

I was going to buy one of these but then I found a cheaper option and I love the choice I made. I bought an octane one prone with 140mm of travel. It's a monster and half the price

@Redrush11 4 жыл бұрын

You can give it more travel if you want. I just think 140 is enough

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

I agree, I never need more than 140mm travel on a hardtail

@JoeX96 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, I’m really interested in this bike!

@TheRealJoeMP 3 жыл бұрын

Would you say this bike is equal parts playful and plow? I want a fun hardtail to complement my Ibis Ripmo AF. Mmmbop has smaller wheels, less reach, and shorter wheelbase. What do you think?

@rauldragu9447 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great review, I've been so exited for it ever since you made the first look video. I have one question tho, did you feel like it was too slack at times? Do you think it would be fun with a 140mm on flatter connector trails or does it just want to bomb downhill? Thank you for the great content, keep it up!

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

If you're worried the mmmbop is too slack, take a look at the marley. I've never ridden a Marley, but in my head I imagine it to be the perfect all-rounder. I find I rarely need more than 130mm of travel on a hardtail.

@rauldragu9447 4 жыл бұрын

@@hardtailparty Yeah, you are probably right. The mmmbop does have a bit more reach, stack and a steeper STa tho but if I'm being honest, I just don't like the paint job the Marleys with 4 extra colors thrown in just for the branding. The mmmbop is just so much cleaner and slicker in compassion. Thanks for the advice, I might reconsider it after all.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

@@rauldragu9447 pick the right geo for your trails. I wouldn't let looks be the determining factor. That's just me though. I had a lot of pedal strikes even with a 160mm fork on here. I imagine I'd have a lot more with a 140. I still love this mmmbop though. Look at it like a win win. I wonder if sizing up on a Marley would do the trick? You've got a great point about the different geo though. Mmmbop feels fantastic, I just think it'd be even snappier with a slightly shorter fork.

@mikeymccollum9928 4 жыл бұрын

Review the 2020 Blue Pig 🤘🤘🤘

@AZRob. 3 жыл бұрын

So, I'm curious, what hardtail would you recommend that blurs the lines between Trail and XC? Something comfortable on intermediate trails but really rips when you want to race? One other detail, I'm finding I really like a more upright riding position, so I've added riser bars and a big riser stem to my XTC. It looks a little goofy, but, way more comfortable. I've been binge watching your vids, man, so many choices, I had no idea! I'm really enjoying all the reviews and all the info, you're doing a great job!

@justinbogart278 2 жыл бұрын

I think this is the 2021 model (released late 2020). I have the same one and it's pretty awesome

@PghMtbRides 3 жыл бұрын

Your killing me on choices lol..bit I have a plan to make a hybrid.. Do you like a stiffer front or a softer front? And between the paradox V3, middle child and this, which is softest up front and which is stiffest I think I'm going custom TI frame

@Cross18_ 4 жыл бұрын

Liked subscribed! Can you review the devinci kobain next? Not sure if I should buy one as it is the only one left I stock and a rocky Mountain growler

@ewartbuilt660 4 жыл бұрын

Hope you can get your hands on a steel frame. Have had them on my radar for a while.

@hambo76 4 жыл бұрын

A quick unrelated question - is it feasible for you to travel to areas like forests etc? It would be really interesting to see you apply your great pinch climbing, downhill and rock hopping skills to other technical terrain :)

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

You'll like my next video.

@carknat3214 3 жыл бұрын

Just got my 2021 mmmBop!! Let’s gooo

@TrailDave 4 жыл бұрын

Ragley and Banshee life ❤

@mtbtx9304 4 жыл бұрын

New to the channel, great video!

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Welcome

@ArchitecTJ37 4 жыл бұрын

yea!!!!! Ragley!!

@MrHT-ii2ie 4 жыл бұрын

Wait! What are the other exceptional bikes? It just cuts as you're about to say.

@hardtailparty 4 жыл бұрын

Oops, editing error on my part. Exceptional bikes I've featured on the channel include: RSD MC ti, Cotic BFe MAX, Banshee Paradox V3, Ionic Johnny Rotten, Reeb Redikyelous.

@lucaschavez7900 4 жыл бұрын

Hi. Thanks for review! I bought my mmmbop used and love it. I also have been thinking I want to go from 150mm to 140mm. What 140mm fork would you recommend?

@earthlingdamien 4 ай бұрын

Hi, did you ever switch to 140? I bought a second hand Mmpob and it came with a 160 which, like Steve, I think is too long. I'm thinking of switching it out for a 140 and was curious to hear from someone who would have done that.