Review: Concentrated Klemperer--Operas and Sacred Works

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The Ultimate Classical Music Guide by Dave Hurwitz

The Ultimate Classical Music Guide by Dave Hurwitz

9 ай бұрын

Otto Klemperer: The Warner Classics Remastered Edition, Vol. 2 (Operas and Sacred Works) 29 CDs
Works by Bach, Brahms, Handel, Beethoven, Wagner and Mozart

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@davidmeyer3565
@davidmeyer3565 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for that great appreciation of Klemperer's work. I have always loved his conducting and have all the recordings. The Testament record of the B Minor Mass chorus's is an experiment. He was trying out a large chorus, but by the time he recorded it and played it in concert, he had decided on smaller forces. I was at the concert and his programme note reads - "Today I am convinced that only a few instrumentalists and professional singers should be used to bring out with the greatest possible clarity it's exceptional polyphonic character. Our performance tonight is an experiment. Let us see whether we succeed.' Signed in a shaky hand - Otto Klemperer 1967. As your remarks about clarity point out, the experiment suceeded. What a great artist to be still searching for the best way.
@alanmcginn4796
@alanmcginn4796 9 ай бұрын
What an amazing video. I just got a notification that my copy is on the way! Klemperer IMHO could put no foot (well, very little feet) wrong when it comes to this stuff. Although I collected many of the Warner original boxes, I got the Vol. 1 big box to complete any gaps and I am still working my way through it - what a treasure throve of stuff that is! And now can't wait to have all of these infamous recordings in one box! Kudus to Warner for really taking care of their main artists, and continuing their legacy for the future. Get this while you can...who knows when it will go out of print again :). Dave, I hope the keyboard is ok haha.
@d.r.martin6301
@d.r.martin6301 9 ай бұрын
Though not my favorite Figaro, I always find Klemperer's recording worth listening to. I can't think of any other that so vividly gets to the story's socio-political nature. In his hands it's no mere opera buffa, but a drama with with a seasoning of humor. A dramedy, if you will. The Beaumarchais play and DaPonte's libretto were daring and provocative in their disregard for the noble class. It sniffs revolution in the air. Klemperer-more than any other interpreter I've heard-gets that and reminds us of it.
@djquinn4212
@djquinn4212 9 ай бұрын
The other great thing about the recording of Die Zauberflote is no dialgoue!!!!!!!! PERFECT for that!!!!! Worth owning for the choral stuff, absolutely the best.
@LyleFrancisDelp
@LyleFrancisDelp 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this survey. I’ve always respected Klemperer as an artist much more than I really liked his recordings (for the most part). That said…when he was on, he was REALLY on….and the results were always great.
@LyleFrancisDelp
@LyleFrancisDelp 9 ай бұрын
Klemp’s Fidelio is a true classic and a must have for every collection. Often, I find myself wishing he would move things along, as he did in the live recorded performance, but still….it’s a truly fantastic recording. But here is one place where I actually prefer Karajan. The singing is just as good, recording quality is excellent, you have the same Florestan, and things are moved along and kept dramatic to the very end.
@frgraybean
@frgraybean 8 ай бұрын
I never liked the German Requiem until I heard this recording. I can't explain it. This record helped me turn the corner. Same with his recording of Song of the Earth with Wunderlich and Ludwig.
@clementewerner
@clementewerner 9 ай бұрын
I was fortunate to see Klemperer conduct the Mahler 2 in London a year or so before he died, and he was an imposing figure indeed, and it was a wonderful performance. I also got to know Cosi Fan Tutte through his recording (borrowed from the local library) and am not fussy about things like tempo. My only negative comment on the collection reviewed is Fidelio, as I loathe Jon Vickers. I saw him live twice, in Otello and Tristan und Isolde, and just can't take those hideous vowel sounds, and though he had an enormous voice I sincerely hope never to hear it again.
@curseofmillhaven1057
@curseofmillhaven1057 9 ай бұрын
😅😅
@davidaiken1061
@davidaiken1061 9 ай бұрын
I greatly appreciate your Klemperer reviews. If "musicologically incorrect," Klemp's Bach provides a unique opportunity for listeners to hear one musical genius interpret another. The same might go for his eccentric but lovable recording of "Messiah." I'm less sold on his Mozart operas. They need more sparkle, though the humor in his "Don Giovanni" is brought out in a taciturn sort of way. That's clearly the best of his Da Ponte series. I greatly enjoy his "Magic Flute," however; there, his serious approach to Mozart (Beethovenish at times) seems appropriate and provides a unified conception. I'm less put off by this opera than you are, Dave. As long as I can ignore the libretto and concentrate on the music (which is magnificent), I can more or less overlook the racism and misogyny. I wonder if someone would do us all a favor and supply is with a new libretto for that work?
@jensguldalrasmussen6446
@jensguldalrasmussen6446 9 ай бұрын
We don't need a new libretto for the Magic Flute... I agree on every bit of what is said about it in spots being horribly misogynistic and racist, but such views were widespread around 1791. Though, not very nice to think about, this is part of reality. We can't understand history, if we blot out everything we don't like about historic reality. Well, in principle we could, but that would place us in the same boat as fx the Nazis, who couldn't deal with the fact, that the genius librettist for Le Nozze, Don Giovanni and Cosi fan tutte was Lorenzo da Ponte an Italian of Jewish extraction. They hated that historic fact so much, that they either removed his name from the scores and posters and/or replaced the libretti with texts by echt aryan authors. Cancellation culture anno 1933. Psychologically, I find it a much healthier approach to confront oneself with (historic) reality as it is or was, warts and all. To let our minds grapple with the jarring contrast between the sublime, almost divine beauty of Mozart's music and the ugly bits and parts of the libretto - and from that point of departure with curiosity ask the questions, raised by this contrast: was Schikaneder's text an expression of then commonly held beliefs; how can such refined and aesthetically sublime creativity as Mozart's music represents co-exists with such plump and repressive prejudice as found in the text; were Mozart in full agreement with the views of Schikanedet; were these attitudes widespread among freemasons in the 18th century; etc. etc.? If the latter question is answered in the affirmative, the libretto certainly let us catch a glimpse of the underbelly of the lofty ideals of 18th century enlightenment. Such reflections and others like them, raised by the cognitive dissonance created by the content of the music versus that of the text, can only make us wiser and contribute to our understanding of where we come from, and contextualise where we stand now!
@davidaiken1061
@davidaiken1061 9 ай бұрын
@@jensguldalrasmussen6446 I think on the whole I agree with you. My comment about needing a new libretto for Zauberflöte was in part whimsical. Though some aspects of the libretto do offend contemporary sensibilities, the opera is a masterpiece and I wouldn't want to tamper with it. And Mozart might well not have agreed with all of Schickaneder's views, the overall message of the opera is indeed one of Enlightenment rationality and tolerance. It would certainly be anachronistic to criticize the libretto and characterization according to the standards of what might count as "enlightened" views today. Though we do, and rightly, criticize some of the USA's founders for owning slaves and approving of the slave trade. These are complicated issues, aren't they?
@jensguldalrasmussen6446
@jensguldalrasmussen6446 9 ай бұрын
Yes, I sensed we were somehow trotting along the same lines...although, I tend to find my position not that complicated. It's the tampering with historic evidence, that, I find, complicates, or rather obfuscates, and leaves me uneasy. The slaveholding Founding Father's of the US is actually a good example. Of course any sensible person in the present would have to distance themselves from any kind of enslavement of other human beings. This, though, don't make us 'change the libretto' and fx rewrite history in a way, where Jefferson's enslaved workers don't exist, and, vupti, make our uneasiness about the whole thing go away. In contrary, by confronting ourself with the facts as they are, history might teach us a lesson or two about hypocrisy and the (so far at least) always underlying current of racism in American (US) history. A closer study might even reveal nuances and contradictions,, that hitherto have escaped our attention. If we just wrote the enslaved out of the history to spare our present sensibilities, we wouldn't obtain that. Another trap would be just fully and in every way to distance ourselves from any ideals of the Founding Father's and the Declaration of Indepence. I, on my part, wouldn't be too happy to let go of the notion, that "all [humans] are created equal" and "endowed ... with certain unalienable Rights"! And I'm almost certain, neither would you! 🙂
@brucckner13
@brucckner13 9 ай бұрын
The reason why Klemperer did a Mass in b minor cd with only choruses was because they recorded them before the conductor regreted about using a big choir and orchestra. He prefered to use less musicians and some years later made the complete recording on this way.
@ER1CwC
@ER1CwC 9 ай бұрын
I remember from Birgit Nilsson’s autobiography that she was originally contracted to record the Ring for EMI-Angel in the late 1950s-early 1960s, but that Legge couldn’t get the project together. (So she asked to be released from it, and the rest is history.) Does anyone know anything about that project? Perhaps Klemperer would have been the conductor?
@ER1CwC
@ER1CwC 9 ай бұрын
@@leo1961berlin That’s interesting. But if we are to go by Nilsson’s account, then Legge’s comments about Culshaw’s Ring are sour grapes. Nilsson (if I recall correctly) said that Legge was desperate to record the Ring with her and had her under an exclusive contract. The LP of Wagner scenes she recorded with Hotter was a test run. She became angsty when Legge kept delaying, for she didn’t know how long her voice would last. He finally relented and released her from the contract, and she wrote that that was why she never signed any exclusive contracts thereon out.
@bbailey7818
@bbailey7818 9 ай бұрын
I don't think you have to compare or love HIP style performances of Don Giovanni to dislike Klemperer's. It's just wrong. No giocoso whatsoever. You only need to hear Busch, Bohm, Davis or Giulini to hear what's missing. Ditto the other da Ponte operas by Klemperer. The Flute, though, is wonderful.
@jensguldalrasmussen6446
@jensguldalrasmussen6446 9 ай бұрын
Now we have the complete EMI (Warner) Klemperer, the complete ditto Barbirolli, even a more than complete Furtwängler ditto box... What on earth is happening with the complete Beecham output??!! 🧐
@jensguldalrasmussen6446
@jensguldalrasmussen6446 9 ай бұрын
Vive the Klempereur!
@LyleFrancisDelp
@LyleFrancisDelp 9 ай бұрын
Surprised that Messiah didn’t require 5 discs. Not much to my taste, despite the wonderful solo singing. As Colonel Klink might say….diiiiisssssmiiiiiissssssed.
@HassoBenSoba
@HassoBenSoba 9 ай бұрын
"half-dead some of the time....." (Dave Hurwitz, 13:05 of this video)
@georgejohnson1498
@georgejohnson1498 9 ай бұрын
I have had most of these. I still have Don Giovanni, but otherwise only the Brahms Requiem remains. However I agree with your report in every way. I had the Saint Matthew Passion, first on LPs and then CDs. What did not agree with me was Pears. Sure that he was a real artist, but his voice comes too close to wobbling as the Evangelist. Really the Evangelist can almost make a performance, but if you cannot get on with the singer, it makes the whole performance hard to take. My favourite SMP is by Mogens Woldike with Viennese State Opera Forces, and actually very similar tempi to Klemperer, but with the Finnish tenor, Uno Ebrelius, who is in my view is absolutely superb., and the young Walter Berry makes Pilate and second High Priest memorable. The Choir is not drawn from the State Opera Chorus, but is extremely fine and incisive. Thank you for a fine report. Best wishes from George PS: I see I am the first comment. That's first!
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