Thank you! That is exactly what motivated me to create this channel. Let's see how long I can keep it up ;) Thanks!

I don’t disagree. However the Carreras were always N/A. I just want to have the option so the customer can chose. I definitely understand why Porsche had to go this route and again for turbo-charged cars they’re doing a great job. I’d love to hear from you why you decided the 991.2 was nicer than the 992? I would agree with you but I haven’t driven the 992. I’m just not a big fan of the big butt and the digital cockpit.

Great! Glad you liked it and subscribed :) I will try my best to review more Porsche's.

Thank you very much! It's just tough running this on the side "for fun". But I will try to keep pushing hard ;)

Thanks a lot!! :)

Thank you for your very accurate comment! I feel as if this current generation of sports car owners and "enthusiasts" don't care about the driving experience anymore as much as your generation did/does. Now they just want faster and faster cars that have to be comfortable for the everyday commute without any sacrifice. So a 911 must be as comfortable as a BMW 5 series and be as fast as possible without having to downshift since this is an inconvinience. The mental transition towards the electric car has begun! Thanks again for sharing your opinion.

Thank you sir! I appreciate it! :)

I totally agree! The GTS is the best Carrera you could possibly own now. Congrats and Enjoy!

Thanks! And thank you for following my old channel as well ;) I am glad I was able to share your opinion as well. I am afraid that Hybrid Carrera's will come in the next 10 years. :/

Thank you very much!! I know, it's quite sad that these atmospheric engines are slowly disappearing :(

Haha if I finally have the guts to test that new Boxster I'll definitely make a title and video like that ;) Thanks! And enjoy the 981!

barack obama There's more to compare than just sound, albeit the sound of the 981 is generally considered nicer than the 718. But let's see a video of the the 718 vs the 981 off the line, 0-60, and then around the track. We'll call it "The Tortoise (981), and the Hare (718)". Better sound = 981. Better performance = 718.

Thank you! Let's hope you're right!

Thank you so much haha! I can only hope for that haha. You can help by sharing though ;) !

Thank you! Glad you appreciate my honest opinion! :)

Thank you sir! I appreciate it :)

Yeah I agree. Naturally Aspirated is the way to go.

Great! Glad you enjoyed it and that you share my thoughts. Whatever you do, keep the GTS ;)

Oh man I would love to see a video of that. :) It might save it and make it a more enjoyable again.

Glad you agree with me Alonso. I think you having owned an E92 M3, you really understand what a performance oriented naturally aspirated engine feels like to drive , and how dull a turbo-charged engine sounds in comparison. I am glad you were able to switch from a new M3 to a 991 911S. Very good choice! Have fun with it!

Absolutely 100% agree! The new M3 is a great car, but so dull to drive. Even when I owed the M5 F10 despite all the power I was still left wanting to hear that engine rev and dance with the car. Before buying the 991 I was close to getting a Tesla, but again the lack of engine and noise was the deciding factor. If you got the NA bug there is no replacement for displacement, no matter how nice they make the cars. I’m hoping to get out to the Autobahn next year and really push these cars, at least legally  Keep up the good vids Groschi.

Totally agree with you, but I went the Tesla route haha. I drive a 90D currently for my daily commute and I am quite happy with it. Because the sound of these turbo charged cars just doesn't do it for me. So I rather get something full electric with unbelievable power for the week. I don't have money for a nice fun weekend car though :/ Thank you very much and enjoy visiting Germany!

Thank you!

Thank you!

You can say that again. Good buy my friend! Enjoy!

Attilio Rizzo Jr. Just Sold my 2015. And got a .2 gts cabrio. Not sure if it was a smart decision.

Ya I can see your point. But I loved the Carrera as a N/A car and the Turbo just doesn't excite me at all.

Once the 991.2 GTS is out, yeah. It'll still sound more like a vacuum cleaner than the old N/A GTS though.

Yes it is still worth it. Because the Turbo is the true turbocharged Porsche. It's performance and everything is just unbeatable and the status you get with it as well.

Groschi Automotive hard to handle it

Groschi Automotive that beast is so fking quick..

That's very lucky for you!

It is a great car and it does sound fine for a turbo-charged car. But it doesn't sound anywhere near as raw and emotional as any previous 911.

Groschi Automotive when you fuck a girl, do you care about how her body feels? or how she moans? i rest my case.

Roger Lee That's supposed to support your case?

I have a 991.2 having sold my 991.1 and certainly confirm that it's a lot quieter although it is faster and has a more useable power curve (not just at the very top end). Love the car, do miss the sound, I feel an aftermarket exhaust is next on the list

Yeah there is no question about that.

Groschi Automotive Just bought a 991.1 two weeks ago, love it!

Awesome! Congrats!

That's so great to hear! I am glad I was able to help and that you were able to also drive them back to back to really see the difference that many people just don't understand when you complain about a new 911. Thanks! And have fun with he car!

Thanks! I am glad you liked the review! However, I couldn't disagree more with you. "The volume is still there"!? The new turbo car is probably 10db quieter, which is a lot! As I said, over 100 kph, you can't hear the engine anymore, which wasn't the case with the old car. In terms of sound quality, the car doesn't sound bad for a turbo car. Yes the Carrera is supposed to be enjoyable every day, but it's supposed to be an engaging sports car as well. At least that's what they advertised it to be the last 60 years. They didn't even want to go with forced induction but the strict emission regulations just tie their hands. You bring up a good point, with being in 3rd gear would land you in jail. This is exactly why I hate people say "but it's faster". Faster doesn't make a car better or more enjoyable. In countries with speed limit (99.9% of the world) especially. In that regards I also found the .1 more rewarding and more enjoyable to drive, because you can rev it out without going 100+ mph. But anyways, everybody has their own taste of course, and is entitled to their own opinion. I can just speak for myself and a few Porsche owners that are in my circles. We do believe that the 991.1 GTS will appreciate, since there won't be more N/A Carrera models in the future. They will go hybrid/turbo and then full electric. That's the point people will pay a very good amount of cash in order to get a N/A musical instrument, that sounds good while cruising, good on the low rev band, unlike any GT car. ;) Thanks for watching and for sharing your thoughts!! :)

Meiner Meinung nach leider ja.... aber vielleicht gefällt dir der .2 ja besser.

Groschi Automotive hm...Schade... also ich bin schon seit bald 20 Jahren porsche Fahrer. Aber so ein Gefühl hatte ich beim kauf noch nie... kein schlechtes Gefühl aber einfach komisch.

Muss aber zu Porsches Verteidigung sagen . Die 53er Modelle hören sich total scheisse an. Da ist der 3.0 turbo doch geiler. Und wie du gesagt hast die politische Lage hat diese Situation erzwungen. Ich habe mir mal für ein paar Tage, für den April von Porsche einen Wagen aus der Gt Reihe bestellt entweder gt3 oder gt3 rs. Mal schauen wie ich danach über den .2 denke. Habe nämlich noch den 2018er panamera 4s diesel und wollte wieder was mit sound. Daher der gts, aber jetzt nach deiner Meinungsäußerung ist mir etwas mulmig .

Ja also mit Sound ist da einfach nicht viel. Vor allem wenn man vom Sauger kommt so wie du. GT3 ist einfach ein anderes Tier. Klingt mega gut aber man muss ihn halt auch wirklich immer treten damit der Spaß macht (wie ich ja auch in meiner Review dazu gesagt habe). Klar ist Porsche nicht schuld daran. Die Mitarbeiter von Porsche die das Porsche Blut in ihrer DNA haben finden den ganzen Turbo Zwang im normalen Carrera auch nicht so toll. Aber die Politik gewinnt halt leider und schreibt uns wie immer vor was wir dürfen und was nicht. Obwohl ein Sauger meiner Erfahrung nach sparsamer ist als ein Turbomotor wenn man ein sportlicher Fahrer ist.

Well but the "turbo growls" are much quieter and the disconnect between throttle and rear-wheels is too big. But I respect your opinion and if it's what you like, then great!

Couldn't agree more. And Vanilla is a very funny way of putting it haha!

Groschi Automotive in another one of your videos you compared the exhaust. When the 991 took off and was all the way around the corner it still sounded as if it was 10 yards away. The new one drive like two feet and sounded like it was a mile down the road.. another thing. when I was 19 I got to drive a drive a turbo. And when your 19 or haven't driven a truly fast car you don't understand what fast really is. You know how kids are" oh I'd take a 700hp car".The turbo scared the crap out of me and made me respect cars even more. It humbled me I had a understanding what 530hp really meant. That's why I love the GTS. Wasn't to much but enough to have ALOT of fun and actually learned how to drive the car and fell the rear weight bias. I also appreciate your videos with your full honesty and show us car fans who haven't driven these awesome cars and keep us dreaming

Thank you so much for that comment again. I really appreciate when other people agree with my honest opinion. I totally agree with you on pretty much everything you just wrote up here. The 991.1 GTS has the perfect balance between power/emotion/performance. I wouldn't need much more from a car. Thanks for watching!

Groschi Automotive now that I have your attention lol. Could you please do a comparison between the new cayman and a 944 turbo. Since the new cayman is the 944 of today. With its similarities with weight distribution, 4 cylinder turbo and being under powered by Porsche

Haha all my commenters get my attention ;) Unfortunately it's difficult to organize a 944 Porsche and at the same time a Cayman. So I can't promise you us doing that at this point and time, but I'll keep it in the back of my head ;)

Absolutely. The F-Type V8s are a great alternative. Very fun to drive.

Yeah that 4.0 liter V8 from AMG is probably one of the few remaining engines that are somewhat emotional in my opinion. The old C63 engine was amazing you're right.

It was all we had available. But we will upload some footage from last year, where we tested the 991.1 Carrera S, which also sounded a lot louder than the current Carrera.

Yes and yes. The car was never designed to be the perfect city car, more so a enthusiasts car for the open roads. But times have changed unfortunately. Of course the torque will make driving easier, especially in the city.

Groschi Automotive Agreed as Porsche is not opening many dealerships in those parts of the country that one could actually enjoy a Porsche. In cases where it has expanded its dealerships that is due to what the Porsche brand has become. Like it or not Porsche is now a maker of SUV's which also makes sports cars. I'm not bothered by this unlike some who feel it takes away from the Porsche brand. A Macan is not a 911 but what Porsche makes from selling SUV's it can take and put into its sports cars in terms of R&D. If a soccer mom owning a Porsche makes the sports car a better product then lets hear it for soccer moms and their Porsche SUV's. Those who can afford the 911 models are the same people who live in exactly the worst places to drive any sports car. There are a dozen Porsche dealerships in what are the worst cites for daily traffic. For those who have never lived in a major city they can't understand that we who love sports cars have to get our daily thrills in miliseconds. That or take our cars to the track. I love my Porsche track time but as a daily driver I look for any chance to enjoy the my 991S one second at a time.

I have no problems with Porsche building SUVs. I have problems with the government regulations that forced Porsche to put turbocharges in the Carrera. It's not like they wanted that. Of course now they defend it by saying "it's more torque bla bla". I was there. I was at the presentation in Tenerife. You can talk to these people face to face and can see that it breaks their heart to go this way, especially with their 4 cylinder turbos in the Cayman and Boxster.

Groschi Automotive I agree but what choice did they have? Either they go Turbo or Porsche power output grinds to a halt. Hey if this means my 991S from 2013 is worth more to purists I can live with it.

Steve Jovan They could have squeezed out a bit more of the naturally aspirated motor. They also could have gone up with the size of it. But of course turbo is a lot easier and better in a testing scenario. Haha yeah the 991.1 (especially the GTS's) will definitely be in very high demand soon. I have to get one before then!

I know what you mean, but we felt that especially between 4 - 6 k rpm the difference in volume is incredible.

This car was equipped with the sports exhaust. There is almost no difference in sound for the two exhausts available.

It is an excellent car for people who don't care about sound and want more of a GT car than a true sports car I guess.

It is pretty bad... unfortunately. And very quiet too. You can barely hear it while driving.

ihave 991.1turbo s and 991.1 targa gts also im agree they goes to wrong way to build 911 carrera they a building holy turbo team.And at this point make 911 turbo 911turbo s not spacial any more!!

Yeah, unfortunately. Enjoy that GTS!!! I am jealous!

@Han L yeah you're right. It sort of makes the Turbo a bit less special in historic terms. But I think most people unfortunately don't care about it anymore. The rich Chinese housewife doesn't care if her Carrera is turbocharged or not. The sad thing is that the manufacturers are going after these customers more and more.

+SwingGuy007 idk what your problem is but your language is not wanted here. The comment is 0% racist (besides I have a Chinese wife myself) and you are just a dumbass hater. Enjoy the other channels.

I feel sorry for you dude. Dealer car? You must be an expert in this field. You just made a fool out of yourself kid.

And that's totally fair. There are tons of choices for that out there. From Porsche, any of the Turbo models for example. Total sleepers. Very quiet and some of the fastest cars out there. But ruining an amazing sounding naturally aspirated Carrera... not good ;)

+Groschi Automotive yeah..for the purists who love that classic 911..it might be disappointing

Paul Jason Absolutely. I mean if you want a quiet car there have always been choices out there. Because most cars are quiet. Now the last "louder" sounding cars are dying out. I just drove the Lamborghini Huracan Spyder, and there just isn't much that can compete with that naturally aspirated V10.

There isn't such a huge difference in sound between the S and the GTS. The S also sounds miles better than the 991.2 S. However, at the time of the filming, we had to work with what we had. We took the best sounding Carrera .1 and .2 to compare them. I think that's fair. ;)

Yup unfortunately. I hope that will change again. Porsche just prooved that with the 911R.

but it's such so expensive..

jimded yeah it is.

Haha right. However, I gotta say, the 991.2 steering is a lot better than in the 991.1. Still doesn't feel like a hydraulic steering rack. :/

Well so far I only got the Mustang on my channel. I unfortunately don't have the connections to American manufacturers and they are very difficult with their press cars. I would love to test the cars you have listed, but other than renting them from Hertz or something. But then I would have to blur the license plates etc. :/

Perhaps in the future then, but I now understand the difficulties.

***** Yes for sure! Thanks!

Waste of time... I have seen only one Camaro in the past 10 years - literally. Maybe not more than 5 Vettes and no Challenger. Those are toys for Americans. So what you are asking for is for the European distributors to contact every last small KZfaq channel and have them drive one of those cars, which is not going to happen. E.g. in Germany, they only sold like 10 Cadillac CTV last year...

There's 250,000 plus Americans stationed in Germany. I see thousands of Challengers, Camaros etc. When his channel grows, and it will, I'm sure someone would allow him to use one of their cars for a test video. I would if I had one of the cars mentioned. I have a Mustang but he's already reviewed that.

It does sound fine. But that's far from amazing. I don't want my 911 to just sound "fine" but be Lava Orange.

Have you even driven them? 718 are far from "the best"...

As you said "not sooo bad" ;) Haha. Of course you can make it sound okay and louder with aftermarket parts, the problem with that is that you lose your warranty instantly with Porsche. They are incredibly strict about it. And even if you have an aftermarket exhaust, it will sound not as raspy and emotional as the naturally version did. Of course to some, that new sound is better, it's just not for me ;)

Groschi Automotive Well I agree that it doesnt sound as good as the 991.1 but you gotta make the best out of it ^^ But what I love are these crackles ;) Thats probably why I made a compilation. Btw what language are we supposed to speak/text right now? ^^

shockwave1xD And I agree with you. We gotta make the best out of it. But I am just not over it yet, so I will be a little rebel for as long as I can haha. The crackles are pretty cool, but I swear you, they will get on your nerves after a while. You may comment in either language, I just prefer to at least reply in English so that everybody can understand ;)

Yeah I absolutely love that. We used the same here for this review but with PDK. I like the AWD a lot as well and don't really mind it. It's not like I am gonna drift this car anyways. ;) Enjoy your awesome car!

Not really planning on drifting it either but may miss the odd Hand brake turn in the snow. Really not into these electric parking brakes, my Subaru Legacy (my winter car) has one too.

Gordon Schwartz tell me about it. I hate those electric handbrakes.

I don't understand what you are trying to say one bit. Of course the 997.2 S will sound better than the Turbo? And what is wrong with comparing the 4S with a GTS? We only had a GTS available and they have the same engine. If you don't believe me, I will soon upload some clips from the 991.1 S and you will see how much better that sounds than the 991.2 4S.

What?! How could it possibly be "more Porsche sounding"? I mean it's very quiet and has lots of turbo wooosh.

Turbo's were used by Porsche AG in the past as well, I don't see any problems with it. The sound fits the car and I like that turbo whistle or wooosh sound that you describe. And it sounds better and not maybe louder than the 991 if I make a comparison from your video, I'm sorry but I have to disagree. Anyways, it's my opinion. Subjective. As for the rest, I like the steering-wheel of the 991.2 more. Before this came out, ironically I was thinking about it that the steering-wheel was a big turn-off for buying the car if that moment ever came. I'm glad engineers took notice that this part of the interior was outdated.

Definitely don't like that turbo sound at ALL. Like most enthusiasts, I feel that the Turbo is just another filter between both, your right foot and the engine, and between the engine and the exhaust. But of course if you like the sound, then lucky you. The future is yours haha.

+Leon Visa well as +MrThomsen_GT3 said, lucky you then ;) But yeah, the new steering wheel is a lot nicer no doubt!

You guys say "lucky you", I think there has been a misunderstanding. I'm not fortunate enough at this time to purchase such a vehicle. Who knows in the future. But I'll take that as a compliment. Thank you.

Das Säuseln erinnert 0,0 an die Luftgekühlten 11er. Du spinnst doch! Das klang ganz anders. Und wer sucht bitte nach so viel Drehmoment in einem Sportwagen der eigentlich für einen Hochdrehzahl Motor konzipiert wurde? Schlimm wie man den 991.2 als besser klingend bezeichnen kann. Kann ich mir nicht erklären, aber jedem das Seine.

That's unfortunate.

Honestly? You must drive a Prius. What are you even doing here?

camry. trolling.

Haha yeah true!

Absolutely!

+Nick I have the car for 2 weeks plus I have driven it now on many occasions. I have even more time in 991.1s... I didn't say that all enthusiasts drive cars just to hear the exhaust sounds - but most will agree that it is part of the experience you want in an engaging sports car. If you would know how Porsche internally thinks about Turbos, you probably wouldn't buy a .2. Through my work you meet so, so, sooo many Porsche owners both in the States and in Europe. Easily 90% consider the old car as "better" and many of them are keeping the previous generation. Many of them even think that the 997.2 was much better than the 991.1 (which I agree with in some parts). The new car is a typical GT. The 911 is turning more and more into a leasing car for doctors and lawyers who use it to drive to their office every day. It's the sad truth. Why do you think Porsche Motorsport is fighting so hard to keep the N/A engine? The 991.2 has a great chassis and turns very well, but to me it is very boring. If it isn't to you, then that's great ;)

Wow so much bias and misinformation in your world. Difference between me and you is I actually own a .2 and have been daily driving Porsche cars for many years. You just go for joy rides and post how much you do or don’t like them. Of course you meet auto journalists with similar opinions, however none of you can actually afford one. I don’t consider auto journalists enthusiasts because they never speed enough time with a car to truly understand it. Of course a 911 is a super GT car that people like me can comfortably drive every day...that’s exactly why I bought it. You got into a 911 with the wrong expectations and don’t understand the car. Perhaps you should put more thought and consideration into things before posting a review. Being 100% focused on sound (which is far better than you make it seem) got you blinded by emotion and you’re missing the point.

+Nick Eckemoff you are so misinformed that as someone who has been following this channel for a while, it's quite embarrassing. You think he is a regular car journalist? My god... His dad is already a well known motor journalist in Europe so I am sure he has driven many more Porsches than you. Btw he has a GT3 among other cars so telling him he just goes on joy rides lol. Cringe...

+Nick it's called being an enthusiast and not some rat thinking "uhh I drive a 911. I am better than anyone else". It sound like you fit into that category. Calling the reviewer biased because he speaks his honest opinion that's just dumb. He gets paid for a reason.

I've driven Porsche's most of my life. My family have owned Porsche's as well. So basically from 964 onwards we've had everything. If you say that the new 911 turbo Carrera is a true and emotional engaging 911, you have no idea what you're talking about. The lack of emotion in this car is just a result of downsizing and Volkswagen's terrible leadership.

Well complaining about the turbo noise of a Porsche Turbo or a GT2 wouldn't make much sense would it? What a genius! :)

Shut up Charles. You can spread hate like your idol TRUMP on another channel you turd. You seem to have no clue about cars at all. The new Carrera sounds like shit and the reviewer did a good job demonstrating it objectively and showing us the contrast to the old motor. You are just a fucking hater so fuck off.

PetSmith777 easy man. Not worth the hate ;)

Groschi Automotive Well, I guess you're right. This guys is just so wrong and I don't get why he insults you like that. He must be a troll or a hater... Keep up the good work!

SwingGuy007 what are you talking about? Go hate somewhere else son!

Driven the F-Type many times and it sounds awesome. But saying the old GTS sounds like crap, makes me think you should probably subscribe to Vehicle Virgins. Their target audience is a bit younger.

Compared to the Jaguar F-Type the old GTS does indeed sound like crap. Why hide the truth?

And dumber...

Damn you just burned him alive

Nah my hearing is fine. I am just spoiled with pretty good sounding naturally aspirated cars. ;)