Have been trying to decide between this and World at War for my strategic WW2 wargame. I think you helped me decide this is the better choice. Deciding factor being that I enjoy the ‘what ifs’ and alternate possibilities more than I would enjoy a strategic re-enactment... which is more what I’m afraid AWAW is. Looking forward to playing this sometime soon. Thanks for the insights.
@eriksaari4430 Жыл бұрын
wif combined with days of decision? or Cataclysm for a more abstract take. triumph and tragedy too
@essayons77 жыл бұрын
This is my "go-to" ETO game, and I've weeded out other ETO games from my collection - I think THAT highly of US! Great review!
@ThePlayersAid7 жыл бұрын
Greg S whole heartedly agree, although I'm looking forward to Fall of the Third Reich from Compass Games.
@swfancas6 жыл бұрын
ETO?
@jasont77016 жыл бұрын
swfancas European Theatre of Operations
@Liam_Daly Жыл бұрын
@@ThePlayersAid Is this a map or board?
@raygun62712 жыл бұрын
Great video! I must admit that this game kind of scared me but after watching your review I think it'll be on my X-mas wish list:)
@Liam_Daly Жыл бұрын
Is this a map or board?
@dipperdog4 жыл бұрын
Another really nice review- thank you so much for these!
@varovaro19676 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Very helpful! Got the game today! It was intimidating but less so now...
@bgm-19616 жыл бұрын
A very good and informative video. Thanks for posting. It helps me decide on which "grand strategic WWll" (ETO) game I should buy. I'm thinking that if I buy this and considering that I've already got Empire of the Sun on my shelf for the PTO, I have all of WWII pretty much covered!
@timwhite15847 жыл бұрын
Great video. Can't wait for this to move up the P500 list!
@ThePlayersAid7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I had it on P500 since last year, because those mounted boards were so enticing.. but I just couldn't wait and got it second hand on the geekmarket just after Christmas.
@paulcurlin27897 жыл бұрын
They are supposedly shipping now. WooT!
@VonCurry87 жыл бұрын
Ordered another from the recent second printing. Got it last week.
@Liam_Daly Жыл бұрын
@@ThePlayersAid where did you get the mounted boards?
@SK-lt1so10 ай бұрын
A few issues with this game: -The air support had to be decided thru the turn, for each battle. This was engaging for FTF, but made email play impossible. -The air counters added to counter piles that had to be managed on the relatively small hexes on the map. And the large piles obscured terrain/river/city size -The supply system was awkward -on the Western Front, it was impossible to recreate an armored break-thru, as (by my understanding of the supply rules) it was easy for the Western allies to cut off from supply German units.
@bgm-19616 жыл бұрын
Also, it's good to see a fellow wargamer who doesn't have a pair of tweezers glued to their hand! Plus I'm jealous that your wife is apparently OK with you taking over the dining room table like that, for however many days it takes for you to finish a game!
@eriksaari4430 Жыл бұрын
"wargamer"
@VonCurry87 жыл бұрын
If i recall correctly...during the ground combat example when you destroyed the Soviet unit you would have put a no zoc marker there to exploit the gap created by destroying the unit...(though that may only apply if you destroy a full health unit). Usually you would have had to attack the unit below the reduced unit in order to move as you were in that units ZOC.
@foodflights14083 жыл бұрын
I know I'm nearly 4 years late to this party, but I just want to give you a shout out for the great job on the review and to ask if anyone has seen/played the USE implementation that's on boargamearena. I really want to give that a shot and see how it plays out.
@sstewart1166 жыл бұрын
great review, i will definitely pick this up at some point.
@enoughisenough37107 жыл бұрын
Really nice review. Thank you.
@brianlong91007 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks! Really starting to want this game. What do you have laying on top of the map?
@ThePlayersAid7 жыл бұрын
Brian Long I have two large (cheap) poster frames from Wal-Mart. They're like $10-11 and do a nice job. The upcoming printing has the mounted map boards so you wouldn't have to worry about it, but who knows when that's going to be released.
@helgaratbone16917 жыл бұрын
Brian Long.. mounted map released prob in August 2017
@SoCal97057 жыл бұрын
So did you have to cut them in half and fit them together? Or are they really big enough to fit 2 22x34 mapsheets?
@ThePlayersAid7 жыл бұрын
SoCal9705 I had to buy two of them, one covers one 22 x 34 map sheet with a ~4" boarder to spare.
@otto78276 жыл бұрын
I bought plexiglass and 1/8" Masonite from home improvement store. I cut them to 34 1/2" x 44 1/2" then slid on some plastic edging from a craft store. It's fantastic and seamless!
@JoshOBryan Жыл бұрын
can't wait till this is reprinted i missed the last printing, but i feel the system is really good.
@danepatterson81076 жыл бұрын
I'm experiencing a sense of being under-whelmed by this title, and I wanted your opinion. Does the game suffer when trying to play historically? I have set up the game's 1941 scenario to play solitaire. I am stunned that the UK has only 2 combat field armies. What's the point of stockng western Europe with any units since there's no way for the UK to take any territory until more units arrive by timetable. The naval segment is really just production attrition in action. Can air and naval units ever be destroyed? I'm not seeing what apparently everyone else sees.
@ThePlayersAid6 жыл бұрын
Air/Naval units never get destroyed, but are put out of action by accruing sorties. USE! is also more of an alternate history game anyways, there's so many variables, but you only see those if you start from pre-war and have all the politicking.
@HistoricalConflict6 жыл бұрын
this game is not really zoomed in like others and is a bit on the light wargaming side. its for beginners mainly and not as in depth but does what it does quite well
@frankallen99296 жыл бұрын
You have been very helpful with your answers to my questions. Now, I have another to annoy you with, and it will probably not be the last, but maybe I'm getting there. Here is my question. Germany has just conquered Denmark and would like to court Sweden as there is no other country bordering Denmark. So does the strait between Denmark and Sweden constitute a common border? I take it that Germany cannot use a sea zone as a border as the western allies can thus would have to use the strait as a border if that is legal.
@ThePlayersAid6 жыл бұрын
That is also correct. Germany cannot place a pro-faction marker in Sweden if Denmark is conquered. The strait is not a land border per rule 1.3.4. Germany cannot place their markers using the sea zones as the allies can. Keep asking away if necessary, I love this game and want everyone to enjoy it!
@GaryGroves3 жыл бұрын
Would this be a good game to get back into war-gaming? I played Avalon Hill's Third Reich and Squad leader back in the day.
@ThePlayersAid3 жыл бұрын
It could be, it's big and long, so take that for what you will. But with that said this probably my Desert Island Wargame.
@bmrigs3 жыл бұрын
@@ThePlayersAid Giggity.
@pedropereira7585 жыл бұрын
if only this game had a solo bot :) Sal, I know you’re busy with WW1 version and then a Pacific version, but find us a solo bot somehow please :)
@ThePlayersAid5 жыл бұрын
This is one of those games that doesn't need a solo bot, you just play best possible moves, the turns are long enough and some of the outcomes change the shape of fronts so wildly that a bot would be impossible, and is also unnecessary, this is one of my favourite games to play solo.
@iant33686 жыл бұрын
What size is that picture frame? I've been looking for one that would fit a double-map game like that
@e-4airman1246 жыл бұрын
Sir, My question is not about this game. My wife's great, great, great uncle was shot and captured by the Confederates at the Battle of the Wilderness 1864. Is their a game you can recommend on the Battle of the Wilderness U.S. Civil War?
@ThePlayersAid6 жыл бұрын
I am sorry to say that I haven't played a game on the Wilderness campaign so really cant comment much. I did a quick look on BGG and found the following games that you can check out: The Wilderness Campaign: Lee vs. Grant from SPI and Huzzah 2: Dark Woods (the Wilderness Campaign) from One Small Step Games. Good luck!
@e-4airman1246 жыл бұрын
thank you
@e-4airman1246 жыл бұрын
thank you sir.
@dantecafarelli2 жыл бұрын
Hi, how does this compare with World in Flames? Would you reccommend US over WiF? And, is there any good simulation for the Pacific theater? Thanks.
@ThePlayersAid2 жыл бұрын
Haven't played World in Flames, so can't compare. For pacific sims maybe Empire of the Sun? I really enjoy Pacific Victory but it's a block wargame so maybe not as hardcore a Sim.
@MrRedoski4 жыл бұрын
Hi Alexander, I noticed that you have wonderfully clipped counters :) Can you please share what counter clipper do you use for that? All the best, Michal
@ThePlayersAid4 жыл бұрын
I use what's called the Oregon Laminations 2mm Deluxe Corner Rounder. It's pricey, and they have some other options, but it's excellent quality.
@MrRedoski4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePlayersAid Thanks so much!
@tomj.75996 жыл бұрын
NIce game with a map to big for my table.
@Clausewitz123456 жыл бұрын
Nice Review. How is it possible, that your counters have round edges? I bought US some days ago and mine are all "normal" square Counters.
@ThePlayersAid6 жыл бұрын
I bought an 'Oregon Laminations corner rounder' from Amazon. It's an exhaustive process but I like the look of doing it.
@Clausewitz123456 жыл бұрын
Did you used the 2.5mm or 3mm corner cutter for this game?
@ThePlayersAid6 жыл бұрын
I use the 2 mm corner rounder
@Liam_Daly Жыл бұрын
@@ThePlayersAid does the clipping keep them from fraying? Does it kinda merge the edges? Can you link the clipper?
@armandosignore3120 Жыл бұрын
So young looking! ;)
@youtubeadministration80373 жыл бұрын
Best ww2 game you say? Hearts of iron 4 you say? UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!
@PMMagro5 жыл бұрын
Mine is in the post :-)
@thgenral4 жыл бұрын
Got to,ask, how many hours to play entire war? It sounds like you can play smaller campaigns, if so, how many hours for those?
@ThePlayersAid4 жыл бұрын
A turn can be anywhere from 30-60 mins depending on how much you think, how new you are, and whereabouts int he war you are. So it's significant. The shorter campaigns can be done in a single sitting, although the East Front one is obviously the longest.
@thgenral4 жыл бұрын
The Players Aid - Any chance you’ve tried GMT’S US Civil War Solitaire? I’m wondering how well it works as a solitaire game.
@ThePlayersAid4 жыл бұрын
@@thgenral I have not. Grant owns it and played a little two player with a friend, but I haven't had a chance to solo with it yet.
@frankallen99296 жыл бұрын
The Diplomacy rules seem somewhat vague in how to get pro faction markers in the game. If someone who doesn't mind some typing would help me, please I would be grateful. I get that Germany gets to place one in the cup as well as place one in a country with a border shared with Poland. I think, after that, you place them with a political success marker (and sometimes with a political failure) but other than that how do diplomacy counters not called for in scenario setup get into the diplomacy cup and/or diplomacy marker holding box; in other words, how do they get into the game? Also, when they are used and the country joins that faction, or the enemy faction removes the marker, where does it go: off to the side, in the marker holding box, or into the diplomacy cup? I can't find an answer that is clear on this, at least for me. Have I explained my confusion adequately so that someone can help me here? In the meantime I'll try to slug my way through as best as I can with what understanding I have, but would be more fun if I knew I was doing it right.
@ThePlayersAid6 жыл бұрын
Germany can Place one pro-faction marker anytime they conquer another country; the marker is placed in the capital of a country adjacent to the one that was conquered. They ALSO place a pro-faction marker in the diplomacy cup as well. Whenever a pro-faction marker is pulled from the diplomacy cup it is either placed onto the board i.e. the capital of the country you wish to influence, or if the desired country already has one in it's capital the marker is simply put back in the box and the country activates as friendly. If an opposing faction pulls your pro-faction marker it is simply removed from the game.
@frankallen99296 жыл бұрын
This was helpful and seems to take me where I was headed in my own thinking. However, I still have another point I'm not clear on. If a pro-faction marker can be played via political success, does that marker have to be placed on a country with a common border or sea zone? Seems that if the answer is yes that severely limits the western allies' possible converts.
@ThePlayersAid6 жыл бұрын
Yes you are correct, and that does limit their possible converts early on, however you then get a cascade effect if you can convert a country of two. Just understand that the Western Allies don't convert many people, they have fewer opportunities to gain the pro-faction markers. They'll typically spend time making pro-German countries neutral again. Historically a lot of Europe was either neutral, or were betrayed by the allies and left to fend for themselves.
@kryspintrych28726 жыл бұрын
Nice video. How do You solve problem with keeping game for another playday?
@ThePlayersAid6 жыл бұрын
Try to ban my children from going in that room!
@lloydbotway5930 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand how this works as a solitaire game. Are you just alternately taking sides? How can you avoid each side knowing all the other sides' strategies?
@ThePlayersAid Жыл бұрын
In this game I just play both (or all three) sides, yes. How do you stop knowing what's happening? Well, before I perform a turn by a given faction, I typically decide how the other factions are playing (defensively, aggresively, reactively etc). sometimes I roll a dice to decide. Then conduct turns and the opposition would then react as best they can within the parameters of their overall strategy. If that makes sense. Just gotta try and suspend that disbelief.
@kryspintrych28726 жыл бұрын
There is almost no need to read rulebook after watching it.
@jeremiah78084 жыл бұрын
It looks like you have some type of cover over the map. What do you use?
@ThePlayersAid4 жыл бұрын
I use the clear plastic from two cheap poster frames from Walmart. They were like $12 each.
@Liam_Daly Жыл бұрын
Is this a map or board?
@greglott49776 жыл бұрын
The player said what?
@PMMagro5 жыл бұрын
BUY not sell.
@chadvader9745 жыл бұрын
This is more of a session report that a review
@eriksaari4430 Жыл бұрын
this or third reich for opposed play? 3r is supposed to be under 20h this 50+????