Really love how he shows the nimbleness of the bike

I'm really curious how it did on hills. On a steep hill, like 6%, how does it do with your weight? How about something easier like 4%? I had a 50cc that did great on flats but hills... Not so much. And our house was at the top with no easy approach.

make honda navi ev

Love your reviews. I currently have Honda CBR 300 and looking to trade it in for a Harley or maybe a mini bike. I have a 12 year old son and 8 year old daughter and want to teach them how to ride. Can’t decide between the Grom, Navi, or Papio. Going to use it to ride around town to do errands and visit friends in neighboring cities. Going on the freeway is not a priority but would be nice to have that option. What would be the best bang for my buck. I can use my XBR as a trade in if necessary. Any advice would be helpful.

They stopped selling it here didn't they?

maybe in India it didn’t, but these are IMPOSSIBLE to buy at retail price in America

@@infam0usP I'm sure someone from India will be willing to sell it to you if it's possible or cost effective, to make a profit on it.

@@thomasfrank280 yup, used to cost 1.5k$

Market is on fire in the US, I am having a hard time finding one as a second bike.

I understand that this thing is not for the European market due to licence restrictions but how does Honda manage to sell a 100cc scooter for 1.8k when their cheapest 125cc scooter is barely under 3k. And generally branded 50cc scooters also go for around 2k

@@Daniel-dj7fh Produced cheaply in India. MSRP in India for this bike was only 600 USD

@@theblukatlife i own a ns200 too. Costed me 2000$ so you got a p good price considering its locally made here

@@Daniel-dj7fh Lets ask that question again in 30,000 miles. Maybe this thing doesn't hold up.

@@hacunamatata6802 Are you someone to ride a bike to 30k miles?

No that is a good bike though Honda is a good bike

Zack the type of guy to do dank nooners on a unicycle

My friend can wheelie a stock Yamaha BWS 50, it comes down to skills.

It was an impressive wheelie at that! I'm sold on this bike 😂

Slosh the fuel to the left of the tank, helps you get across the intersection.

CBS combined brake system for those wondering

nope they think linked brake are cheap advanced tech for brake system and people in here ( indonesia ) dislike it since it proved more dangerous and have people getting accident specially at rain or bad tire

If its a two stroke its more fun because the engine starts redlining

@@themetabaron8722 Not always, the two-strokes I had (a long time ago) just died like the four strokes.

Zack is the golden retriever of people. Just happy to be happy.

@@keithquinn5624 you're weird, brother.

@@keithquinn5624he is not gay it's just his balls haven't dropped yet, makes him a better motorcyclist though, like if Ned Flanders was a eunuch.

@@keithquinn5624 classy comment

Cringe

If you could try to get hands on Hero Splendor or Bajaj CT100 or Bajaj Platina (these are bikes) get it!! It has fuel avg of min 67KMPL (Kilometres Per Litre) and some users have got 90KMPL....

It looks even better for daily commuting when I’m at 15mpg in my truck and $6 a gallon 😂

Right

No one is getting 100mpg on a Navi.

@@hacunamatata6802 it is possible, another scooter from Honda with same engine as navi got 60km/l with 14" rear wheel and 72grams cvt roller

Did you have to pay dealer fees?

@@slamminpotatoes4508 like 2780 OTD after tax/fees/title/reg/inspection. The junk fees totaled $320 which is fair for NYC. other dealers wanted $3200-3500 OTD.

@@themystx2 The junk fees were super low. Here in CA they wanted $1000 in dealer fees alone! Nice deal, and I hope you enjoy your Navi!

@@slamminpotatoes4508 I’m sorry this bike is not worth $3500 or whatever craziness they come up with, would rather step up to a 300cc like an MT03. Honestly I’m not entirely sold that its worth 2780 lol

@@themystx2 well you're mixing up the idea of the 2 bikes, this is a urban low cost bike, mt03 it's one of the worst consume you will find mine does 16 km/l in low rotations but i don't think you can stay at high rotation all the time unless where you live don't exist speed limit, this little bike have a small maintenance cost, I'm planning on selling mine mt03 because of that the maintenance it's expensive here and I don't use her so much for the high price. Well I don't know if on US these prices might be better.

He’s hilarious reviewing American bikes. He’s in such pain but puts on a brave smile.

Loooong time listener first time coooaller! Tom Leykis

I also ride one in Honduras. Tegus. Peace.

Be sweet for my commute, mostly 30mph roads with a few 40mph.

That's the life of our Yamaha Vino 125. Always pinned to the max! Surprisingly amazing as it's had no issues considering it's at 15,000+ miles.

The life of my track only NSR50.

Hey wondering did you end up getting one Im thinking of getting one myself never used a motorcycle

I'm thinking to get it ne too never rode a motorcycle before.

This! As a new rider who doesn’t want to tinker around with the bike at all (yes I will pay for dealer maintenance), I need to know what are the basic things I’d have to do outside of regular scheduled maintenance: checking oil fluid, filling tires with air, etc. What of those types of things have to be done for a Navi?

​@@andydarling8951 valve adjustment on the small Honda engines is probably really the only other bit, apart from the drive system maintenance. Valve adjustment is easy - lock it onto top dead centre, take valve adjustment covers off, back off the locknuts on the adjusters and lightly seat the adjusters by hand before using a feeler gauge to get the appropriate clearance. If you don't have one then about 2/3 a turn out from lightly seated is usually the go. And that's the valve adjustment done.

This.

For me, those you said are medium sized bikes

@@chevymartinez3705 those wouldn’t even be considered middleweights though in the regular motorcycle category. It’s small displacement.

Thats the first time i read that r3 and xt250 are small bikes. Are you 8footer or something?

Am I the only one that really did NOT expect that front wheel to leave the blacktop?

Wait those are small?!

I agree

Modern carb vs old carbs

It’s not so much that we expect more from a small bike, but that most of us need more from any bike. Cities are far apart in the US, especially on the west coast, so the only real way to get to the next city is on highways with traffic going 130-140kph. So I don’t think anyone would expect the Navi to go fast, but highway capability will determine whether or not it’s an option for a lot of people.

What kinda mpg are you getting?

@@jacobpie3692 You're asking someone in break in period that ??

@@jacobpie3692 I mean right now, roughly 75ish but that’s a guess as I haven’t let her run completely dry and I have been playing around a lot getting comfortable riding..

Do you need a bike lincense to drive it?

@@lazomaniac yes you do, atleast in my state, it’s a 110 cc and anything over 49cc requires licensing.

Its more out the door

@@310smoker ... Dealer Fees. Every bike has those if buy from a dealer.

India upped their emission standard, which made the Navi unsellable there, so Honda just shipped all the Navis here despite the fact that they are only competing with themselves.

@@lovelessissimo a good move by govt but yet significantly increased the prices of all vehicles....... Good for environment, bad for our pocket!

I bought the Navi because the Grom just didn't make sense to me. I drive around town mostly with a lot of stop and go traffic, and I can get anywhere between nearby towns on a 50 mph or less road. The Grom is good for that too, but you have to dick around with shifting, even when you just aren't in the mood for it. And while the Grom can do interstate speeds, it's not the safest thing in the world to be on a Grom doing interstate speeds. Then add in that a Grom costs twice as much as a Navi even used. I could literally buy a used Royal Enfield 600 with low miles and a warranty, with my Navi, and not have $6k wrapped up in a city bike, and a road bike that can easily and safely tackle the interstate anywhere I want to go for long distances. I feel like the Grom is trying to be too much, but doesn't do any of them as well as the Navi does the City minibike, and damn near anything over a 250 will do the interstate.

With all fees at our local dealer we got my wife’s for 2,311, so still a grand cheaper than a used grom! It has been great for my wife to learn on and I get that same feeling when she needs a break from practicing and I can ride it around- sometimes more fun than a full size bike!

@@ChildishDyce lucky! ~2700 total here.

ChildishDyce I was at a bike shop today and they were saying it would be around $3800 out the door price which is way too high, what fees if you remember did you buy to pay as low as you did for it?

Why do your wives learn driving on this bike? Wouldn't it make more sense to learn on a 'real' motorcycle?

@@Jehty_ too scared to ride a “real” one.

@@fftheblueskys ah i meant that Chicago has terrible winters, both with the snow and the cold, for motorcycles. But thank you for the kind words! A few people have given me shit for my bike choice but once they realize that I absolutely love my motorcycle, they stop talking shit haha.

I would buy it

@@henryscountryroad4672 My son sold his 100% what he gave for it... No Loss!

So... kinda like take the Honda Forza 250 and dress it in a motorcycle look? It's only 22hp 250cc but yeah... I can imagine that.

It’s a scooter…

25hp at that size would be interesting. Also it would be more $1800 so wouldn't be worth it anymore

With the size of the wheels and probably the limited braking, too much faster than 50mph may make things a bit precarious.

I mean, you could certainly up the hp. Maybe not to 25 hp but shave the head, bump up the jetting, maybe do some port work. You could make it quicker. Now I want one

Hey I'm thinking the same thing my commute is 5 miles, easy roads here sunny Socal. What do you think though about an ebike (no special license, no gas station).... still this little thing looks cool

Lmao

Do them a big favor and recommend a Grom - much better brakes (front & back) better instrumentation and more power with less maintenance because of the fuel injection...

@Anthony Silvestri I was recommending the Grom as well the only thing is she never rode a bike so I think the clutch & shifter might be a little overwhelming, but I know some people take to it quicker than others.

@@Frank7G has she ever driven a car with a manual transmission? I have taught a lot of people to ride over the years and that always seems to help...

@Anthony Silvestri nope she drove a manual transmission car. She's never been a car or motorcycle person and I guess now it's starting to kind of peak her interest.

Encourage her to buy the Navi. If she is intimidated by the transmission, let her ride the Navi and get her feet wet. If after 6 months she decides that she is ready to add transmission into her riding and is eager for something higher spec, I’m sure she could sell the Navi for at least half what she bought it for and switch to a grom or something larger. If she only spent $1000 for six months of motorcycle ownership that’s not a bad investment if you ask me.

It already exists. The motor is just the standard 110 that comes in the Honda Elite and many others. Plenty of carb options ad variatiors/transmission mods you can use on it already.

Owner for six months now, headlight is not great. I am looking at upgrading to a led.

@arianna I dont want to be that guy going 5 under the speed limit. Its a fairly busy road.

As an NYC owner I can fairly say splitting lanes on this thing is infinitely more pleasant than trying to squeeze my 900 through city streets.

I got my Navi for $2900. I wanted a grom or z125 but dealers around my area wanted about $4500 to $4800 out the door and couldn’t afford it. I tried to get a benelli tnt 135 but dealer otd price for those are $4,000

Was at a Honda dealer here in OKC yesterday. No joke, the sales guy I was chatting up said Ruckus' are selling for $3,900 OTD (with a $2499 MSRP) and these little Navi bikes are $4K OTD even though a cheaper MSRP. Says that Honda just can't get anything built right now and delivered.

Do you remember the "Big Ruckus"? It was a 250cc twist and go than would do 65+. Sadly they did not sell well I'm the U.S. I would definitely ride one. Not to common to find these days.

Tires are to small .

*too small

I heard nightmare stories from peeps trying to get a navi with bogus otd prices. Luckily in my city (maybe even state), these are in low demand, so I was able to pre order mine for 2,100ish. I was honestly expecting it to be 3k.

Right, I’m pulling my rebel 250 out of storage because I can’t pay 4.50 a gal for gas in Oregon daily driving my truck

My Honda Monkey gets 110 mpg and i weight 195 # .

@@jacobpie3692 I like the old Rebels over the new.

Maybe if you are in a country where they sell the CB125F. Don't have them in USA.

Yep, closest USA model in price is the Metropolitan which is physically smaller and 50cc and $700 more expensive or 1.38 times more expensive then the Navi

@@Damiv Too bad, because it's a great cheap bike.

Lmao

Or use Ethanol-free gasoline.

Did you ever end up dashing on your Navi? I’ve wanted to so bad but never have. Always scared I’m going to get that one order with 4 drinks and 4 large soups.

That’d be perfect! I hope they come out with a higher trim level or something. What’s your favorite color do far? I’m liking the green

@@jacobpie3692 Or just get a grom / monkey.

@@jacobpie3692 Color is important when looking at a bike (pretty much, any bike), and you really don't care much when you are riding it, since you need to look forward. That being said, green is good from a safety point of view, as the bike being small it'd be more visible to others.

Did you buy it?

@@AshRinNice no. I've tabled getting into a bike for now. Too much other stuff on my plate.

@Kattrap Thats what I have. an 07 burger that I got for 2500$. ride it 4x as much as the goldwing.

What's for breakfast? Lol

@@ichabod7939 Pancakes and fruit. If only it were warm enough for a ride.

Nooice, Dad's are the best pancake makers' hands down. I feel ya on the cold weather, I'm 1,200 miles from home (FL) in freezing a** Buffalo, NY.

@@ichabod7939 Im 27 but have had a lot of practice making pancakes. Im in Ohio. We are almost to warm weather but not quite. I really need to flush my brake fluid, check the air filter and do my fork seals. But finding time is difficult.