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How To Use Your Tube Amp At Home (and NOT get divorced)

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Rhett Shull

Rhett Shull

Күн бұрын

Tube amps are great, but keeping your amp in its sweet spot often means it will be too loud to be in the same room with for very long. Today we're going to look at some solutions that will let you keep your tone but cut the volume.
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@meatyard8066
@meatyard8066 2 жыл бұрын
Rhett just doesn’t understand the raw tone you get from a crushing divorce
@fredstevens799
@fredstevens799 2 жыл бұрын
adds authenticity to the blues...
@bullfrogboss8008
@bullfrogboss8008 2 жыл бұрын
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie
@hessex1899
@hessex1899 2 жыл бұрын
I frequently joke that gear acquisition is really pointless unless there's a substantial risk of alimony being part of the TCO of the gear.
@AllTheCoolNamesAreTaken84
@AllTheCoolNamesAreTaken84 2 жыл бұрын
Damn this hits home
@nickjimenez4262
@nickjimenez4262 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing like starting over
@FrankLafone
@FrankLafone 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rhett! Remember the golden rule - if you see smoke, you've let the magic out of the box :)
@timbaxter9932
@timbaxter9932 2 жыл бұрын
Ya, what was that smoke in the background?
@fakenewssucks211
@fakenewssucks211 2 жыл бұрын
@@timbaxter9932 or that weird electrical smell 😂
@LeMalBeasty
@LeMalBeasty 2 жыл бұрын
Every machine is a smoke machine if you handle it wrong enough.
@Daniel-rg9sl
@Daniel-rg9sl 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like incense…or a doobie that’s just taking a little rest.
@davidpepper442
@davidpepper442 2 жыл бұрын
Leaving a joint burning is just wasteful.
@MatthewScottmusic
@MatthewScottmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: don't get married and you won't get divorced👍🏻
@lazarus-lake
@lazarus-lake 2 жыл бұрын
Modern problems require modern solutions.
@mb42977
@mb42977 2 жыл бұрын
And studies show that marriage is the #1 cause of divorce!!! 😂
@dylans9405
@dylans9405 2 жыл бұрын
Tell your wife to get a good job to buy you new gear
@thebestian
@thebestian 2 жыл бұрын
This is why matt has all the cool gear.
@weschilton
@weschilton 2 жыл бұрын
Or marry a guitarist!
@ieblack37
@ieblack37 2 жыл бұрын
That tone is straight up fire! The smoke was evidence.
@WorldsOkayestGuitarPlayer
@WorldsOkayestGuitarPlayer 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing!
@mgscheue
@mgscheue 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that, too!
@IrLosin
@IrLosin 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking damn he's on fire today. Literally.
@terenzo50
@terenzo50 2 жыл бұрын
Sometime back in the 1970s when Paul Rivera was working out of his garage, I had him build me an attenuator along with some of the mods he was doing on all the amps I used to bring over to him. I'd forgotten all about it until I saw this video. Rhett, your videos are some of the best I've seen. If I were still working in TV, I'd try talking you into becoming a TV show host doing pretty much what you're doing now. Not everybody has that ability. You do. I really enjoy your work on KZfaq. Keep on keepin' on, man. And stay safe.
@silverfr3ak
@silverfr3ak 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, thanks God he’s on KZfaq. This way, guitar players from all around the world can watch him instead of he’s just being part of a generic tv schedule grid with some tv executive guiding his way of communicate.
@jackhargreaves1911
@jackhargreaves1911 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@Davefranzin
@Davefranzin 2 жыл бұрын
Ciao Rhett. I am 56 years old ... I still remember the day when a friend of mine brought me the first Rockman from America ... having a nice distorted sound on my headphones, being able to play at night without disturbing anyone ... amazing, just try to think of mine mom, go from someone who exercises many hours a day with a Marshall JCM800 and a 4X12 ... to not hear anything anymore....she went to light a candle in honor of Tom Sholtz in the church near her house .... Greetings from Italy mate.
@rickw5024
@rickw5024 5 ай бұрын
Ditto this. I actually have the Power Soak that Tom made and it made my parents SOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY !!!!! I still have it actually
@ICE.DAVE717
@ICE.DAVE717 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rhett! You are amazing!!! I am a church player and for past year I have been struggling to reduce the sound of my amp without getting the quality down. You my friend just gave solution to it and I try it today. What a sound my tube is giving me. For the first I really enjoyed the sound of my Marshall at a low volume and without breaking the quality of the tone. Thank you so much for making this video!!! May God richly bless you and give you more wisdom
@mgalbu
@mgalbu 2 жыл бұрын
I built the iso booth version of the closet solution. I have it in the garage with a 4x12 in it and use it with cranked 100W and 200W amps. Works incredibly well.
@flonsdg
@flonsdg 2 жыл бұрын
A cool tip for recording at home: If you own a looper pedal record everything at room volume and get every take on the pedal. Once you've got the correct take, crank the amp to the sweet spot level and replay the take with the looper. You can even make several takes with different tones and buff it up.
@liamjenkins244
@liamjenkins244 2 жыл бұрын
this is genius
@TheHypermew
@TheHypermew 2 жыл бұрын
You can also just record DI into your interface and then send the signal to the amp when you want to record.
@ramsy3492
@ramsy3492 2 жыл бұрын
Wow great tip, thanks man!
@danieljensen2626
@danieljensen2626 2 жыл бұрын
I think there's a big trade-off with any approach like this though, because you react to the way it sounds while you're playing. If I'm playing a cranked amp I'm going to be picking and muting differently to hit the sweet spots of the current settings than I would if it was quieter or if I was just playing unplugged.
@ramsy3492
@ramsy3492 2 жыл бұрын
@@danieljensen2626 That's true, indeed.
@jayseb
@jayseb Жыл бұрын
Great recommendations. Good attenuators rock. On this note, I still went forward with a divorce a few years back. It's by far the most expensive solution, but in the end, I now do whatever I want. Volume is loud and good. Cheers.
@weschilton
@weschilton 2 жыл бұрын
Rhett was literally SMOKING! Someone call the fire department!
@Techcensorshipbot
@Techcensorshipbot 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought about tube amps and divorce. You just gave me a great idea! Thanks Rhett!
@JohnDoe-xr5is
@JohnDoe-xr5is 2 жыл бұрын
For the reactive or even passive attenuators, far too many people try to squash a 100watt non master amp down to bedroom level, then complain when the tone sucks. The human ear hears things differently at different volume levels. So when their powerful amp is attenuated to a lower volume, their ear hears it differently, and they think the attenuator is changing their tone. (I'll admit, some do) I've heard guitarists do a recording 1) bypass, 2)slight attenuation, 3)full attenuation...and people could not tell the difference. I only use an attenuator to take 'a little off the top' when gigging. I have a Dr Z Brakelite and I've compared it to others. The brakelite is the most percussive I have found. Another trick for live gigging is rather than blast loudly at the beginning of the night, start a few 'clicks' down instead...then as the drinks flow and the venue fills up (and your drummer hitting harder), you can remove the 'click' of your attenuator and it doesn't seem too loud. This is SO much better than the club owner yelling at you during the first song or two to turn down!
@RKDriver
@RKDriver 2 жыл бұрын
I can get great tone at low levels with my half stack but it's still not driving and moving the speakers. Once I turn it up a few notches, a whole new sound comes alive. Driving those speakers just a little bit is how you hit those sweet spots.
@L.C.Sweeney
@L.C.Sweeney 2 жыл бұрын
More people should know about ELCs and the Fletcher-Munsen curves.
@jamesnichols5998
@jamesnichols5998 2 жыл бұрын
I was so excited to run a wet/dry rig for the first time when I got a Fender Supersonic 22 and Marshal DSL40, but I live above a restaurant. So I ended up getting a Boss Katana and just ran it USB through a FocusRite - not the same experience at all. I needed this vid in the worst way. Thanks!
@jonbarwick5946
@jonbarwick5946 2 жыл бұрын
Love my JHS little black box for attenuation purposes as well! That second solo RIPPED
@natalievelasquez2664
@natalievelasquez2664 2 жыл бұрын
Do they have the same function as a regular attenuator? Just curious as I've heard of these before
@joshuahiggins1217
@joshuahiggins1217 2 жыл бұрын
@@natalievelasquez2664 No, its not a power reduction attenuator like a Ironman. It limits signal from preamp to power amp. Full attenuators lower the power from power amp to speakers. So the Little Black Box will allow you to push the front of the amp, but you cant push the power amp.
@jimbailey1122
@jimbailey1122 2 жыл бұрын
@@natalievelasquez2664 What Josh said I have two love em one on a Vox AC30 and another on a Fender HR Deluxe, and I have not noticed any tone degredation. They are know as "passive" preamp attenuators that plug into your effects send/return loop, as opposed to speaker-connected "reactive load" Rhett discussed. I generally push my volume on both to about 11 or 12 o clock and gain 1- 2o clock. If I had a proper studio, however, I would consider one or two RLA boxes. They require power.
@randolphgallagher7942
@randolphgallagher7942 2 жыл бұрын
Will the Little Black Amp Box work if you don't have an effects loop on your amp?
@thebrokenorder
@thebrokenorder 2 жыл бұрын
@@randolphgallagher7942 No, your amp needs an effects loop.
@Vagrant392
@Vagrant392 2 жыл бұрын
4 minutes in and Rhett is literally on fire. This is the content I'm here for!
@Mcsteveberry
@Mcsteveberry 2 жыл бұрын
that beauty in your hands and the subject matter we are about to get into is exactly what draws me in to stick around for the video
@natethompson1257
@natethompson1257 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using the Tone King Ironman 2 Mini attenuator for a year now and it's stellar. I can get all my luscious tube amp tones from my Marshall DSL20HR, my Orange OR-15 and my Fender Vaporizer and the volume is reasonable enough to keep the next door neighbor from wanting to chop my head off. Excellent demo Rhett! Keep up the great work!
@scottwheldon9992
@scottwheldon9992 2 жыл бұрын
The advice for using an eq is gold. Gonna swap that out on the signal chain of my pod since I can only have 8 effects at one time. Thanks man.
@thejonathandoan
@thejonathandoan 2 жыл бұрын
Great video with lots of great options. I have an Orange Crush 35RT that just wants to play LOUD. I have a small bedroom man cave that doesn't work well with my super loud amp. I ended up purchasing a Mission Engineering VM-Pro volume pedal and putting at the end of my effects loop. Works a dream! Now I can crank the amp, overdrives, distortions, etc. to get the best sound and not blow out my eardrums.
@graemedixon6314
@graemedixon6314 2 жыл бұрын
As the orange crush is solid state, does running it at a higher volume change the tone? I thought one benefit of solid state amps was they sound the same regardless of volume.
@thejonathandoan
@thejonathandoan 2 жыл бұрын
@@graemedixon6314 The volume of the amp doesn't change the tone, but some of my pedals can do more when I tweak their volumes. I just use the volume pedal to drop the overall volume, as the Orange doesn't have too much volume control at the lower end of the dial.
@matthewhanson3204
@matthewhanson3204 7 ай бұрын
Hey im a little late lol, but did you just run your whole pedal board through the effects loop? with the volume pedal at the end of your pedal board?@@thejonathandoan
@thejonathandoan
@thejonathandoan 7 ай бұрын
@@matthewhanson3204 I run my compressor, distortion, fuzz, overdrives and amp sim pedals before the amp, and my chorus, reverb, delay, and volume pedals through the effects loop of the amp. That really only means all the pedals on my pedal board are run in the typical manner: comps, ODs, fuzz, etc. before the amp (pre-amp section) and modulation pedals + volume pedal through the effects loop (power amp section). That way, the volume pedal is able to affect the overall volume of ALL the pedals before it, and the amp still reproduces the sounds of the pedals but the overall volume is lowered significantly. I guess you can think of this setup as a Master Volume. The Orange Crush 35RT doesn't have a Master Volume.
@44dognut
@44dognut 2 жыл бұрын
My trick is I put my big amps through a small 6” champion 600 speaker. That makes it a lot quieter and you can get better sounds at low volumes. Also sounds better than a big speaker for recording
@composerrogue9176
@composerrogue9176 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that works great. I use a 4 inch speaker mounted to a dresser drawer for a cab. I put that “cab” and 2 mics inside another box wrapped in blankets. Then tweak the mics on the DAW.
@chrishyde1216
@chrishyde1216 10 ай бұрын
A small cab would be my choice. Desktop amps like the Yamaha THR use very small speakers.
@scottfrommaryland7658
@scottfrommaryland7658 2 жыл бұрын
I heard a studio guy say on youtube that he used to put a bunch of moving blankets over the mic'd cabinet in the studio to contain the volume. It did not interrupt the sound or quality of the mic'd cab, just quieted the rig down for the bystanders.
@ryand4533
@ryand4533 2 жыл бұрын
That is a very old school method but works great. Moving blankets are very thick and inexpensive.
@eduardo_zerobala1340
@eduardo_zerobala1340 2 жыл бұрын
I use a TedWebber attenuator and it is fantastic! Helps me a lot, i can even play at night in my apartment at low levels in my fender blues junior. A great tool.
@christopherlubicich7543
@christopherlubicich7543 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Laney GH30R (which has unfortunately been discontinued). Channel 2 on this amp is supposed to be the crunch channel. BUT! On chanel 2 this amp has a volume control between the pre-amp tubes and the power amp tubes. This allows you to keep all the tubes in the sweet operating range (not sweet "spot" which is a misnomer, unless your an over drive maniac). You can power up the pre-amp tubes then attenuate the signal and power up the power amp tubes without blowing your head off. I have a 15 by 25 studio with plenty of foam on the walls and unbridled the 30 watts in this amp can be pretty intense. Turn down that intermediate volume and you get the sweet tone with out the house raising volume.
@wimdewild9345
@wimdewild9345 2 жыл бұрын
When you're on the edge of breakup ....
@fredstevens799
@fredstevens799 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there... LOL!
@Lowtech14
@Lowtech14 2 жыл бұрын
Turn it up!
@TR4Ajim
@TR4Ajim 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when my kids were in their early teens, I was practicing guitar in the basement. My oldest daughter opened the basement door and yelled down, “Dad, I’m on the phone! Turn it down!”
@JamieK_89
@JamieK_89 2 жыл бұрын
I recently moved house to a place with a big garage at the bottom of the garden. First job was to wire a 25 metre multi core cable from my office to the garage so I can send the output from my amp head to my amp cab down in the garage (which is inside an iso-cab), then have two mics send the signal back to my audio interface. Works amazingly well and I can blast my amp nice and loud without anyone being able to hear it!
@rickhill6277
@rickhill6277 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got an old Tom Schults “Power Soak” I bought new in the ‘70s I use and it still works Great! Please keep up the Good Work and Cheers from Salem, Ohio!
@andrewgentry955
@andrewgentry955 2 жыл бұрын
I have one too!
@DreidMusicalX
@DreidMusicalX 2 жыл бұрын
I play my Marshall DSL100HR head with a Marshall 2x12 cabinet. You an cut this heads wattage to 50w. Its plenty loud for a bedroom giving a really nice sound. Mine is in my closet. I also use 3 essential pedals to cheaply change my amps sound. 1- MOOER Radar 2 - BOSS GE7 EQ 3 - MOOER012 Preamp pedal that really can cut the level of the amp down and I run all 3 of these in my effects loop.
@Zane_Doe
@Zane_Doe 2 жыл бұрын
My solution has been to use a klone set pretty clean at the front of my chain. Gives you back some of that "opened up" amp sound and tightness.
@dcjway
@dcjway 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a twin reverb that due to it’s weight I don’t take it out on gigs anymore. I use it at home all the time, I use a ts9 when my wife is home and it drives it nicely without turning up the volume. Of course when she’s out I rattle the windows. On a side note, my gig amp is a new Fender Pro Reverb, single channel plenty of power and only 35 lbs.
@michaelrash1478
@michaelrash1478 2 жыл бұрын
I've been extremely interested in the pro reverb, I need something smaller that still sounds great (I have a two rock classic reverb and a fender hot rod deVille which I bought to gig but it's a heavy beast). I love my amps but the pro reverb looks very tempting and sounds good from what I've heard.
@dcjway
@dcjway 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelrash1478 It’s a great amp. It’s the ‘68 pro reverb. Call Sweetwater they are doing a 36 month no interest if you qualify. Ask them for they’re best price, they usually will give a discount, and if you don’t like it you can send it back.
@cortmiller
@cortmiller 2 жыл бұрын
Been pretty happy with my twin reverb tone master. Only non tube amp I have but fixes the weight issue and you get built in attenuation and a line out. You might start gigging a TR again with that
@andytullis8736
@andytullis8736 2 жыл бұрын
I use the closet technic. My Line 6 212 Mkii Bogner Sprider Valve sets up on coasters. So it already sits above the floor. The only thing I have done, is treatment. Good idea.
@SteveOuimette
@SteveOuimette 2 жыл бұрын
I've had all of the attenuators...well, most of them, as well as some of the iso-boxes (Rivera Silent Sister, Demeter, etc.). For my money the UA OX is by far the best recording setup for my 1-room studio out of all of them. Sounds exactly like it will end up when you use it without a cab and listen through your studio monitors. No decoupling necessary and no rumble that makes you think the amp sounds better than it does only to find it's sort of thin when you monitor back. It's just "that good". Great video Rhett!
@gffg387
@gffg387 2 жыл бұрын
OX sounds bad
@SteveOuimette
@SteveOuimette 2 жыл бұрын
@@gffg387 In what way? As an attenuator, the sounds of the cab and mic models?
@prasanthselvadurai3450
@prasanthselvadurai3450 2 жыл бұрын
@@SteveOuimette as in the quality of the reactive load. Lot of high gain users have been complaining about the quality of the reactive load in the ox itself compared to stuff from fryette, boss and suhr
@SteveOuimette
@SteveOuimette 2 жыл бұрын
@@prasanthselvadurai3450 Very interesting, thank you for sharing that. Most of my amps are from the 60's and 70's...Marshalls, Fenders, etc. but that's something I definitely will check out. I will say that so far both the Fryette and RockCrusher sounded more open as attenuators than the OX. But I do love the OX for recording..didn't love the models on the BOSS and haven't tried the Suhr yet.
@prasanthselvadurai3450
@prasanthselvadurai3450 2 жыл бұрын
@@SteveOuimette yeah the digital part of the ox is world class, just the analog part (loadbox) is controversial among heavy gain users. My dream loadbox would be the fryette ps2 with the digital portion from the ox box
@seanwoodburn2616
@seanwoodburn2616 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, covered all the bases! I have a couple of other tools for you. While they DO change the tone of the amp, the tone will be different, not better or worse. 1. exchange 6L6/5881 tubes for 6V6. This will require rebiasing. 2. On many one hundred watt amps such as Fender Twins with four power tubes you can pull two tubes, usually the middle tubes. Half power now. 3. Combine #1 and #2 above. You are now pushing 15-22 watts depending on a lot of variables. 4. Replace octal tubes such as 6L6, EL34, KT88 or 6550 with EL84's by using THD Yellow Jacket adapters. Your Twin is running around 40 watts and these are self biasing. 5. Pull two tubes as in #2 above but switch to two EL84'S using the Yellow Jackets. You now have a souped up AC-15...sort of... # 5 was a life saver for me with one of my clients who I mixed live. The guy is an elder statesman of rock guitar and had the hearing to prove it. His stage amp was one of the red knob twins which were nefariously and euphemistically dubbed "Evil Twins" not to be confused with "The Twin" of the late 90's which Fender called the "Evil Twin in ad copy. The red knobbed Twin was loud...and not much else. The evil Twin was always dimed regardless of venue. We would be at a festival one day and a small club the next...everything on 10. I had to do SOMETHING....stage volume was insane and our statesman would not be budged on settings. I confess that I made the EL84 swap secretly during sound check. It was just enough though and sounded great. Most importantly the client was extremely happy as well and we later shared the deception so he kept the Yellow Jackets. Check with your tech before pulling tubes by the way...not all models can do this and with some you may risk sucking an output transformer. There is some good information about these techniques in The Tube Amp Book by Aspen Pittman. Opinions will vary. This stuff worked in my amps and no smoke. Great content as usual. Cheers!
@misteranderson59
@misteranderson59 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Rhett! My favorite way to play quiet is a JHS Little Black Box in the fx loop. EQ underdriving with a GE-7 or similar also works into the front of the amp (as long as all your dirt is coming from pedals).
@thebigcountry8518
@thebigcountry8518 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I have going on with my 100 watt Marshall and 4x12 cab. As long as I'm using the clean channel and pedals. I have fantastic tone and my amps volume is under control. If I wanted the (true tube) amp distortion. I would have to go the way of the attenuator.
@bradleyjpaolucci
@bradleyjpaolucci Жыл бұрын
@@thebigcountry8518 What about just a volume pedal if you wanted the true tube sound? Would that be as good as the attenuator?
@fredyoder5197
@fredyoder5197 5 күн бұрын
I just bought a Dumble clone and a attenuator is the next obvious move for a twice divorced man such as I. Thanks Brett
@Dazz1806
@Dazz1806 2 жыл бұрын
Rhett, this has been the best video. I want to buy a new amp but drhought I was going to be limited with the amps I could choose. There’s no way I can have an amp blasting in my apartment. Thanks for showing me some techniques I hadn’t thought of.
@tristanpankratz500
@tristanpankratz500 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Rhett I love your content, me and my tube amp have been separated for a while now, this video will help us establish a healthy relationship again.
@jeffmansfield914
@jeffmansfield914 2 жыл бұрын
I love my Ironman II attenuator. It’s perfect with my Fender Supersonic 22. With it, I can set the “Normal” mode of the clean channel to sparkly clean, the “Fat” mode to edge-of-breakup, and the drive channel to as much crunchy or creamy overdrive as I want with some added power tube beef without driving everyone out of the house.
@richardmcclain1420
@richardmcclain1420 2 жыл бұрын
I have three really loud amps . Fender Mustang III , Peavy Delta Blues and my favorite believe it or not is a 6 watt VHT special 6 ultra head and it's pretty dang loud coupled with a 12" Celestion that's in the Fender Mustang combo . So loud that my roommate starts bitching every time that I strike a cord ! LoL A sound proofed man cave / studio is in my near future ! By the way I really enjoy watching your videos , I especially enjoyed the one from last week with Phil X and Rick . Keep the camera rolling !
@0riole11
@0riole11 2 жыл бұрын
Easy way to decouple an amp from the floor is to use 2 pieces 12mm or 1/2" MDF or ply, drill 5 40mm or 1 3/4" holes 25mm or 1" in from the corners and another in the center of each. You then sandwich tennis balls between the MDF/Ply where the large holes are, drill a few smaller holes near the edges to tie it together with zip ties. Job done. I've made a few of these and added carpet tiles to the top, total cost for me was about AU$20 for a platform big enough for a Fender 1 x 12 combo
@ficothecroatianrocker
@ficothecroatianrocker 2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about that, one of my neighbours loves to listen to my playing so for him it's not an issue though
@derektassie1479
@derektassie1479 2 жыл бұрын
I have a captor x for my tube amps and its honestly changed my life. I love that thing.
@marccarter7844
@marccarter7844 Жыл бұрын
I have a 85 watt Fender 65 twin. Its very heavy, very loud. I no longer gig but love those clean tones. I used aYellow Jackets conversion on the amp. Basicly, its a lowered output volume. Allow EL84 power tubes to be used in place of the most common guitar amp power tubes. It changed the tone a little, but i can now use the amp at home worrie free. Everyone is very happy in my house
@ALF1996xx
@ALF1996xx 2 жыл бұрын
My Tone king Gremlin (5 Watt with a great attenuator) has been an amazing apartment amp. It can go super quiet and still get some tube OD.
@nickjash
@nickjash 2 жыл бұрын
Miss my old place where I could blast till volume 7 on 120 watts have a band jamming and it didn’t bother anyone because the walls and floors were so thick. Yeah still could hear the music through the air. It makes a diff if ppl gather around your place to listen to your band playing in your home, usually no complaints back then.
@dksa8085
@dksa8085 4 ай бұрын
Dude i hope many people tell you that you have an amazing speaking voice, because you do!!
@stauffacher6638
@stauffacher6638 6 ай бұрын
By far the most enlightening explanation about attenuating tube amps, thank you
@GoLongboardBroseph
@GoLongboardBroseph 2 жыл бұрын
I respect that most of these options are not focused on buying a product
@mikemorrisonmusic
@mikemorrisonmusic 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, Rhett! I just purchased the 1959HW on your recommendation. 😀
@julianbenedict9720
@julianbenedict9720 2 жыл бұрын
JHS Little Black Amp Box in the effects loop of my Friedman JEL 100 watt, works great
@gathda
@gathda 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I use for my Frontman 212R 100 watt. It's unusably loud, even when at 1. The Little Black Amp Box pulls it right down.
@j.r.242
@j.r.242 2 жыл бұрын
The EHX signal pad works great too. The biggest difference is it has a an on/off button, which can be helpful or hurtful depending on if you’ve had a few drinks
@julianbenedict9720
@julianbenedict9720 2 жыл бұрын
@@j.r.242 haha
@jimbailey1122
@jimbailey1122 2 жыл бұрын
If I had a proper studio I would get a RL A box, but for now my LBBs tame AC30S1 and Fender HR deluxe just fine.
@randolphgallagher7942
@randolphgallagher7942 2 жыл бұрын
Will this device work if you don have an effects loop on your amp?
@LA3Music
@LA3Music 2 жыл бұрын
You’ve had that bluesbreakers riff in your head for a bit! Which is AWESOME! But now I can’t stop playing it…🎸🎸🎸
@kasakka
@kasakka 2 жыл бұрын
One thing not mentioned about the cab sim setup is that this will sound like a miced cab, which is distinctly different from hearing the cab in the room. While the miced sound is familiar to us from any record ever, it does sound different and how you set up the cab sim will make a huge difference. I like running two different cab sims with different mics to make for a fuller sound, not unlike many real cabs get miced. When using this setup with headphones, you want to add some room reverb in there so it doesn't sound like you have your head pressed against the speakers.
@brtd90
@brtd90 2 жыл бұрын
Where has this video been my whole life. Finally bought an attenuator though. Loving it
@sdell88
@sdell88 2 жыл бұрын
Your playing is on fire! I mean really there's a fire behind you! 4:20
@wrensong07
@wrensong07 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched in a while but boy this ones got my eyes glued. Great ideas with the volume and eq pedals and love the speaker in the closet...
@dkerwood1
@dkerwood1 2 жыл бұрын
Depending on the amp, you can use something like the HX Stomp or any other device that can load cabinet IRs to run the amp completely silently. Run the amp's effects send into the IR loader and IR loader into whatever speakers or headphones you want to use. It is important to note that you still must have a real speaker plugged in, even though no signal will pass to the speaker, otherwise you will damage your amp. This is a nice solution for some combos, though it does eliminate the power section of the amp completely.
@davedavem
@davedavem 2 жыл бұрын
Saw the thumbnail... I NEED THIS. As does my wife.
@stratorarious
@stratorarious 2 жыл бұрын
Been using an EQ in the loop for a long time now. EQing and tweaking it is key to getting a not terrible sound out of it at lower volumes. It's cheap and easy.
@malby65
@malby65 2 жыл бұрын
Man! I love your content, your playing and how you present stuff. Huge fan. Some time ago I was using a cheap power attenuator from Harley Benton on my Marshall plexi when rehearsing then stopped using it because... well I like it loud. I have a smaller Marshall DSL at home which gives you the option of switching between 5 watts and 0.5 watt. At 0.5 though the cleans lose in quality way too much. Gonna try that HB attenuator at home, thanks for making me think of that. I also recommend folks to go check it out. It's from Thomann, Chinese built but German engineered. About 70$ that will allow you to keep the cranked tone of your tube amp.
@paulsummerside
@paulsummerside 2 жыл бұрын
Some great advice in this video. Interesting about the Captor Attenuator. Though with my very much loved Wem Clubman amp which is now rather long in the tooth. It’s probably not in reality much younger than I am and not sure I want to interrupt the speaker wire on the little combo. It may only officially be a 5 to 6 watt valve amp, but it gets damn loud when pushed to the point where the tone really starts cooking. Being an open backed amp the old method of a soundproofed box in front of the amp for recording. (Something you didn’t cover ) wouldn’t cut it entirely. Therefore the complete mini booth in a converted cupboard or wardrobe, does seem to be the best home solution. Not one I can use in my current practice/ recording space. But would certainly avoid going digital or completely digital. Something i played about with 20 years ago. And soon got very bored with digital modelling back then. Over all your video is really useful in reminding many of us about options we do have. Some fairly cheap. Others less so, but perhaps us exploring more, such as attenuation of some form or other.
@MetalHippie83
@MetalHippie83 4 ай бұрын
Im glad all my neighbors love my cranked marshall and 4x12.
@JA-ww9cd
@JA-ww9cd 2 жыл бұрын
Renovate the closet. Split the long rectilinear closet into 2 individual “closets” with separate doors to the studio/bedroom. One is for storage and the other becomes the booth. You can then add the foam lining on the walls, ceiling etc. you and a friend could it in a weekend. When it is time to sell the house you don’t have to change it back. It is a bedroom with two closets for kids to share the room
@louis6331
@louis6331 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Hendrix picture you have there that is sweet. Just had to mention it. Just happen to catch a glimpse of it. Very nice.
@WarrenPostma
@WarrenPostma 2 жыл бұрын
My current solution is a Blackstar HT5R plus a Fender Rumble 40 bass amp. The combination of the 8" speaker in the Blackstar with a 5 watt tube amp, can scream and wail and the Rumble I use fed from an aux output of the HT5R into the aux IN of the rumble. Then you use the second speaker to dial in enough feeling of Amp Loud in a Room without really actually being very loud. The results are astonishingly good, much better than any attentuation scheme I have tried. The thing is headphones do not make me happy. I want to feel the music. I stand quite close to the fender Rumble and blackstar combination, and the rumble is working like a powered cab as the aux in does not hit the rumble preamp.
@1davejsutdave1
@1davejsutdave1 2 жыл бұрын
Freyette Power Station is like the best thing I ever bought.
@savdl
@savdl 2 жыл бұрын
Please can you comment how the Fryette Power Station sounds going into a DAW silent? I understand some people feel it's the best for attenuation but the sounds like the Captor X benefit is the cabinet simulation? Does the Fryette do cabinet simulation? Thanks
@lordcustard-smythe-smith9153
@lordcustard-smythe-smith9153 2 жыл бұрын
The best method is to sell the tube amp and get a boss katana artist mk II. I did and I don't regret it !
@smartfun4896
@smartfun4896 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. The CaptorX is the best thing I've picked up since ... the moon turned a fire red :-) Drive it with a 5E3, JTM45 and 66 Bandmaster ... does it all from spanky clean to heavy dirt. Worth every penny.
@neilmasangkay7044
@neilmasangkay7044 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t do any of those things. Instead, I let my wife help me pick out my amps! 10 years later, I can verify it works!
@dalerschmitt
@dalerschmitt 2 жыл бұрын
Man! That first lick you play is so hot, there is smoke rising up behind you! 🔥 🔥 🔥
@jonathanbrown943
@jonathanbrown943 2 жыл бұрын
That was some sick ass tone at the end there. The lick was killer too.
@maxpeck4154
@maxpeck4154 2 жыл бұрын
I bought an amp with power scaling and a master. I'm pretty much a purist, don't use drive pedals under any circumstances, but it's an invaluable feature for me. Yes, it will not push the speaker as much as running full up, but the tubes will compress and distort beautifully. Completely different from a built in attenuator, it dials back the voltage to the output section while still letting you drive the signal to it. Last amp I'll ever buy
@mattdyck9931
@mattdyck9931 2 жыл бұрын
I've had my volume pedal in my effects loop for years. One of the major benefits (imo) is volume swells that have consistent gain levels. You can get that smooth violin like swell with quite heavy gain simply because the attack is missing and it remains a consistent tone.
@pablogp9333
@pablogp9333 2 жыл бұрын
4:37 I like this guy, setting his amp volume at tubes burning point :))
@kenny6920
@kenny6920 2 жыл бұрын
I use seperate pre amp/ power amp units- i can crank my power amp (50 tube watts) and lower all of the channel (preamp) volumes all the way down to taste, and its like having an attenuater. No one in the house knows when I'm playing sometimes.
@bsquare6809
@bsquare6809 2 ай бұрын
That very last thing you said, oh man, i remember when my girlfriend said that.
@waldemarpierzchalski
@waldemarpierzchalski Жыл бұрын
I've never thought about this, so obvious. Thank you.
@modernkowboy4611
@modernkowboy4611 2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else totally dig the tone at 4:12 when the closet was shut ........... Just needed turned up!!!!!!
@brennanofthenorth9808
@brennanofthenorth9808 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome content and even better tone! Jealous of your amp collection! Keep up the good work!
@wingsofsilver9349
@wingsofsilver9349 2 жыл бұрын
Well........ The trick we used in the studio back in the 70s actually worked. Put the combo on a 4 legged chair and drape a quilted blanket over it. Taaadddaahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ricksalt6860
@ricksalt6860 2 жыл бұрын
I built a box just a bit bigger than my 2X12" cabinet . I put the cab facing inside the box that has insulation with thick blankets stapled on the inside . I have a steel pole in the box to stick the mic on . I put towels around the space where the speaker cab meats the box . It's pretty good , not amazing but the best thing I can do in my house .... with the wife upstairs and the neighbours .
@JohnLee-mq4hk
@JohnLee-mq4hk 2 жыл бұрын
I own an ENGL Screamer combo amp, so I swapped out the 12AX7 phase inverter tube for an 12AT7 tube, cleaned up the amp, less noise and less hum.
@xvilac
@xvilac 2 жыл бұрын
I connect the send plug of the FX loop in the amp to the computer (via an interface) and then mute the amp with a dummy jack in the return plug of the FX loop. Then, in the DAW I can use cabinet simulations or IRs. With this I lose the power amp component of the tone, but for room practice works well.
@gouravroy2928
@gouravroy2928 2 жыл бұрын
I use a pillow, and I love the muddy sound it generates😂
@Musecrafter
@Musecrafter Жыл бұрын
EQ pedal in the FX loop. Brilliant!!! Thanks for that.
@brandonlesko3126
@brandonlesko3126 2 жыл бұрын
For $100 I picked up a Bugera PS-1 attenuator. By default it knocks the power down by half. It has an XLR DI out with an emulated cabinet w/volume control. It's a great option to have.
@klojke
@klojke 2 жыл бұрын
Had a half stack Marshall in my first apartment, put the cabinet in the bed with the speakers facing down, worked alright 🤷🏼‍♂️
@matthew_thefallen
@matthew_thefallen 2 жыл бұрын
Ah finally! I watched your sweet spot videos and wondered how in the world i should play my amp without disturbing people! ahaha
@ericv7720
@ericv7720 2 жыл бұрын
For low-volume nighttime playing, I just use a distortion pedal (an MXR prime 69) through the clean channel of my Carvin MTS in 50w mode, and it sounds great. For daytime playing, I just use the Drive channel set at low volumes, which sounds fine for high-gain sounds. I also keep the amp in a closet with a bunch of clothes in a carpeted befroom, which dampens volume considerably, though I do occasionally have to scale back the bass control / boost highs.
@gazzau79
@gazzau79 2 жыл бұрын
Rhett's playing is literally smoking in this video.
@JaniceLalla
@JaniceLalla 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@Judesmood118
@Judesmood118 2 жыл бұрын
Yea what was that? Lol
@darwinsaye
@darwinsaye 2 жыл бұрын
Fredric Hallas A look at his eyes should tell you what’s smoking in that room, lol
@TraneFrancks
@TraneFrancks 2 жыл бұрын
My solution for a bedroom tube amp is a 1 Watt DSL with a 0.1 Watt low-power setting. As long as I shush before 6 pm, the neighbours tolerate it dimed.
@MarshallAmpMan
@MarshallAmpMan 2 ай бұрын
Great explanations Rhett!
@Dirge4july
@Dirge4july 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps for metal players this is a lot easier to achieve being the majority of metal players get their sound out of the preamp tubes and not the power tubes. I can play a 100w archon at bedroom levels by simply cranking the preamp. It sounds fantastic.
@Ottophil
@Ottophil 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I can play a 120 watt 6505 with the post volume on zero and be happy.
@ChaddSullivan
@ChaddSullivan 2 жыл бұрын
Too many people never learn to hear themselves in a mix and need to be on top of everything else
@gcvrsa
@gcvrsa 2 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people don't realise this. The sound of modern metal is really a high preamp into a clean power amp, which preserves the low end clarity.
@Ottophil
@Ottophil 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChaddSullivan thats better than the kids who play “covers” and its just them jamming with the studio mix. And you can’t even hear them. Its like guitar mime. Its a joke
@jb_50w78
@jb_50w78 2 жыл бұрын
That’s completely true. Everything he is talking about here is really just for amps that actually need to be played loud to hear the overdrive in the power amp section. But modern high gain amps that are more for metal get all of the distortion tone from the preamp and the power amp is run totally clean. They sound fine at any volume.
@neongalaxies5622
@neongalaxies5622 Жыл бұрын
There's always way too much room in my guitar amp recordings so I'm definitely excited to give this a try
@dylanporter8105
@dylanporter8105 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the reasons I love the rockerverb mk3 its built in attenuator is a godsend
@Durnsx
@Durnsx 2 жыл бұрын
I personally like the eq in the effects loop trick, removing two tubes just doesn't cut it when your amp is 120watts.. 60 isn't going to be much better. I also use the eq to drive the power tubes when I'm playing at higher levels it really fattens your tone!
@jacko717
@jacko717 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. I bought some cheap cork tiles that I rest the cab on in my bedroom, and I turn the cab a full 180 so the rear is facing me, and the outside wall. You can also use a wireless kit and wander around your property seeing how it sounds to the rest of your family when you play.
@jtbesquire
@jtbesquire 2 жыл бұрын
Bugera PS1 Power Soak - $109 on Amazon right now. I paid like $130 last year, and it is the best money I ever spent. If you are dealing with wattage under 50 watts, you can't beat this thing.
@glennw3909
@glennw3909 2 жыл бұрын
Remember when you joined ‘That pedal show’ live feed today during ‘guitarist pickup lines’. Lol.
@mrsunshine2204
@mrsunshine2204 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this video, thanks very much for sharing! I think putting a volume pedal in the effects loop is simple and genius! Will try this on my stack.
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