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@viralbuthow0002 жыл бұрын
Dancing in the Moonlight was a l;ittle tricky because u played upper register
@canadianman0002 жыл бұрын
100%. But I also own two wurlitzers and am quite familiar with their sounds. A 140 and 200A.
@LightSource272 жыл бұрын
At first I was way off. After you showed the waveform I was about 50/50 and once you said it was tines and reeds, I was all over that. thank you for the insight
@earanwe2 жыл бұрын
I missed two songs... One playing with the basses of the rhod and the other playing with the highs of the wurli. Clearly in the mid tones they are kind of different sounds. not a chance for mistaken them. Thanks 4 the vid. I was used to the rhodes sounds but not for the wurli and it explains so well. BTW, Im certainly more of a Rhodes one :)
@fernandoblanc2 жыл бұрын
I did excellent but just because l knew all of ten, nevertheless, here is the thing: The Beatles " Get Back" ? i ALWAYS played that one with a Wurly patch, so l was shocked watching Billy Preston playing it on Seventy Three .... Some Neo Souls Tracks (Moonchild for instance ) have such a high level of sononic production that I've found myself doubting whether the patch is a Rhodes or a Wurly. Loved the video, love your channel, best wishes for you and your loved ones.
@somewhere-else2 жыл бұрын
i always felt like the wurli is an electric Piano while the rhodes is an Electric piano
@HDpiano2 жыл бұрын
interesting!
@NotDingse Жыл бұрын
What is the Yamaha CP-70 then ;)
@n2noodles Жыл бұрын
@@NotDingse that's an Eleteric Piano
@DJSlaughter Жыл бұрын
It's weird, I actually understand what you're saying 😂
@kgeorgejunior Жыл бұрын
Spot on!
@fromthistexasbreath2 жыл бұрын
To my guitarist ears, the Wurli sound always has a bit of crunchy breakup when played a bit harder, like an overdriven guitar. The Rhodes is cleaner and has more headroom, with a bit of bell-like chime mixed in.
@HDpiano2 жыл бұрын
Good descriptions here!
@ahogammer6895 Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@TheEmperorOfTheWorld Жыл бұрын
Guitar analogy: A Rhodes is like a Rickenbacker played through a clean Vox AC30 whereas a Wurli is like a Les Paul played through a Vox AC30 on the edge of breakup
@krissv3ctor512 Жыл бұрын
@@ahogammer6895 For me it’s like more like neck pickup through a Fender amp vs bridge pickup on a Vox.
@TryptychUK8 ай бұрын
True. You can overdrive a Wurli and it still sounds good, but distortion on a Rhodes just sounds nasty.
@andrewhurst51632 жыл бұрын
Yea man that Rhodes is so clear and bell like. It’s sounds shiny. The Wurlitzer sounds warm, but when played harder sounds crunchier. I think that crunchiness is what makes it identifiable.
@HDpiano2 жыл бұрын
Crunchy yes!
@gingerfreak0118 күн бұрын
I love the Rhodes but it's no surprise it was the go-to electric piano when FM synthesis came around, and not the Wurlitzer.
@mattiadellamico8882 жыл бұрын
Perfect video for the people who started to listen Electric piano and don’t catch the sound differences.
@HDpiano2 жыл бұрын
👌
@Greenriver8422 жыл бұрын
The beautiful hammond on the background 👏🏻
@HDpiano2 жыл бұрын
😍
@c016smith52 Жыл бұрын
This was incredible and will rewatch several times, I am sure. You answered so many questions I've had for years, specifically about the terminology and distinctions. Point for point, so helpful and entertaining. Thanks!
@HDpiano Жыл бұрын
Glad you dug it, Chris! Thanks
@TheTonyTitan9 ай бұрын
You literally played a bunch of my favorites from across genres, i owe you a sub sir!
@josephwright59219 ай бұрын
To me, the Rhodes can be chimey and glassy, but it you use the right effects and amping, it can be a little gritty and funky, but I think it naturally is more bell-like, The Wurly is naturally more punchy, bluesy and as you said, gritty. I could get my Rhodes to sound like my Wurly with a limiting overdrive effect I have in a multi effects box, but I could never get the Wurly to sound like a Rhodes.
@Rhythmicons6 ай бұрын
It's because the Wurlitzer seems as if all of it's high end was filtered out.
@rochamds2 жыл бұрын
OMG, this is by far the best video comparing Rhodes with Wurlitzer! Thank you!
@HDpiano2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@Mr_DPZ2 жыл бұрын
"Glassy" and "gritty" are perfect. I learned to tell the difference between the two using VSTs mimicking them.
@BobbyH8 күн бұрын
Great video Dev, As a 79 yr. old keyboard player, I delighted in your comparison of the 2 great sounds. Over the past 60 years, I've owned 3 Wurlys, including the old speckled, yellow/brownish, pressed wood, first commercial model. I have only had 1 Rhodes 73, unless you count the Rhodes, keyboard bass. I remember that before I had the Rhodes, I already had been through 2 Wurlys, but had always dreamed of owning the Rhodes. I retrospect, I wish I had kept the wurlys; I just never got used to the keys on the Rhodes, although I used it for years placing it on top of my Hammond C-2 in several of the bands I was in over the decades. I remember how much the band hated moving from venue to venue. Thank god I had a van! I was able to replace several of the reeds from time to time, which was quite easy, filing down the solder to get them tuned up. Those days have sadly passed (not the moving part) and now I've slimmed down to a Nord Electro 3, which does a fairly ok job with the 2 'boards, but I really do miss my old 200. Thanks for the memories,
@llawliet18342 жыл бұрын
I preferred the Rhodes before listening to Supertramp, now I just adore the Wurli sound above everything else.
@303machine2 жыл бұрын
I still prefer Rhodes, sound wise, but I like Wurlitzer also, it depends on song, although on lower registers can't distinguish between them. I agree, Supertramp is great song.
@andriealinsangao613 Жыл бұрын
SUPERTRAMP IS A BAND!
@llawliet1834 Жыл бұрын
@@andriealinsangao613 ik
@theogeorgiades15 күн бұрын
What an amazing selection of songs to show us the differences between these two. A lot of childhood memories in this video. Thank you sir!
@anachronism783 ай бұрын
That was fun! Great job on this!
@cameronfreeman62802 жыл бұрын
That was a lot of fun, thanks!
@WEAREALLJUSTMEAT4 ай бұрын
the fender rhodes is easily the most iconic sound of any instrument imho. honestly not hard to tell the difference if u know what you're listening to.
@robinmiller7958 Жыл бұрын
You play all the parts very accurately. Cool to see a young cat who takes the time to figure out the parts on these old tunes. BTW, the really hard comparison is between Wurlis and Hohners which were very similar and the little wooden case model often appears on Beatles, Zombies and Fleetwood Mac tunes…possibly These Eyes was a Hohner but who knows?
@paulchapman1123 ай бұрын
the way you compared them is excellent! really well done
@EphemeralProductions5 ай бұрын
I have always said , the easiest way to tell them apart is the Wurli has a more "hollow", almost "square wave-like" sound to it, whereas the Rhodes is more "bell-like" and ringing. You can especially hear this in a more pronounced way on both pianos when they have a chorus effect on them.
@mfurmanАй бұрын
Excellent video! I learned a lot. Thank you 😊
@SethACampbellMusic2 жыл бұрын
This is such an awesome video! I've been trying to find a good way to explain the difference, and you absolutely nailed it!
@SethACampbellMusic2 жыл бұрын
Side notes: Incredibly jealous of your keyboard armory there, and are those didgeridoos on the left side??
@HDpiano2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Seth!
@just1randomguy658 Жыл бұрын
Oh wow, it's easier to tell the difference than I thought. I love the Rhodes sound, it's so welcoming and warm, and bright, it's like a soft hug.
@LukeTheringMusic2 жыл бұрын
Very illuminating!
@HDpiano2 жыл бұрын
💡
@colinbradford26714 күн бұрын
Well explained and very well played - I still can’t consistently tell the difference!
@Syddybear114 күн бұрын
Awesome video!!!!! Thank you!
@margix11722 жыл бұрын
Very good and informative !
@HDpiano2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@VincentLoraine23 күн бұрын
Wonderful !!! I learned a lot!!!!
@eBell05 Жыл бұрын
this video is excellent. thank you!
@johnsundermeyer90859 ай бұрын
Cool video! I learned a lot, thank you
@JochenReulbach6 ай бұрын
what a wonderful picture seeing Wurli and Rhodes back to back ;-)
@valdochez2520 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed this video. I can usually tell the difference but never why they are different. Happy I came across this video
@alfiemillersharp Жыл бұрын
Hearing Wait For The Moment on a Wurli made my day, that's literally one of my favourite songs of all time.
@EthanRMus9 ай бұрын
perfect video, great job
@triggerpointstheory2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, Bro! great work
@HDpiano2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@1171karl2 жыл бұрын
While I've never taken the time to listen to the differences before, watching this its obvious to tell them apart on some songs, but other songs its not, particularly those played in lower registers.
@HDpiano2 жыл бұрын
👌
@abramizaackaplan6723 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome video! I think they become less distinguishable in the bass, and dare I say indistinguishable in the lower and mid registers if you process the signals in certain ways.
@ikigai472 жыл бұрын
Pretty easy. For me I MUCH prefer the Rhodes, though I love keyboards like the SV2 that allow you to have a rhodes sound while dialing in dynamic based grit that rears it's beautiful head when you use a harder attack. Best of both worlds
@HDpiano2 жыл бұрын
Nice!🤘
@tapervin8076 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Montanabass Жыл бұрын
88% for me. I really appreciated this video so much. Thank you.
@jeje20212 жыл бұрын
Ima be honest I have never heard of a Wurli and I could definitely tell the difference between their sounds it’s like day and night.
@SergioGarcia-jg3yy2 жыл бұрын
Very well explained and very well performed! Great job! You play it all so close that @ 5:04 it reminds me of Maurice Gibb's smile. BTW I prefer the Rhodes. For me, there's nothing like a Rhodes with some reverb and chorus. I'm 57 y.o. and I've never played a Rhodes or a Whurly (but I have a Reface CP and a MODX and I imagine I'm doing that).
@HDpiano2 жыл бұрын
🙏🤘
@alanhaynes4182 жыл бұрын
I have a '69 Wurlitzer 200, and before that I had a '74 200a. They sound quite a lot different - the reeds on the 200 are thinner and sound growlier. On the 200 the felt on the lower half of the hammer tips is different and the upper half has leather - also contributing to the raunch. The electronics are very different and the vibrato circuit on the 200 just sounds nicer to me. The Alnico speakers on the 200 make a difference as well - I usually mic those up to record it. Overall I much preferred the 200, so I kept that and sold the 200a as I just did not have the space - I also have an '80's Rhodes and a not very big recording room, so something had to go.
@TryptychUK8 ай бұрын
I've often wondered about the difference between the 200 and 200a. Have you ever tried a 140a?
@alanhaynes4188 ай бұрын
A wooden case on the 140a and Germanium transistors are the main differences. The 140a is much closer in sound to the early 200 series ('68 - '70). That's why I have a '69 200 - all the tone and a lot less weight etc.@@TryptychUK
@TryptychUK8 ай бұрын
@@alanhaynes418 Thanks for the heads-up. Good to know.
@shanemarcotte2062 Жыл бұрын
Well done! The fact of the tines vs the reeds did it for me! THEN my guesses were right!
@DeMoeAureliusАй бұрын
Thank you for the history lesson.
@dinbee46119 ай бұрын
Love your rendition of "How deep is your love." Closest to the original I've heard so far..
@jeffreynaness6358 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I got a lot out of that video. It's much easier to tell the difference higher up on the keyboard (the Rhodes tines really resonate there).
@WillsJazzLoft2 жыл бұрын
Your explanation during the mechanics section was extremely helpful. Both instruments had been out of production for a considerable length of time. The whole issue of copyright is a factor with DX-7 emulations as well. As an example the DX-7 emulation on my Casio WK-200 is called FM and one of the Rhodes emulations is called Dyno EP. I have seen tines and reed used in virtual synths as well. The name certainly is copyrighted but the sound associated with it has long since then been in the public domain. The trademark owners are well aware of these issues. Now whenever I buy another portable arranger or a workstation, I know what to look for
@hermask8152 жыл бұрын
is there a list of DX7 names and the instruments they're supposed to represent? (only the Wurly,Clavinet, Rhodes and drawbar stuff)
@WillsJazzLoft2 жыл бұрын
@@hermask815 the EP might be described as an FM EP
@oldgoatroper70307 ай бұрын
7:16 It's not a copyright issue, It's a TRADEMARK issue -- a very different animal. Other than that, a wonderful, fun and informative video!
@dclipper8052 Жыл бұрын
Dreamy vs. Bangy. Beautiful creations, the both of them.
@DeanPickersgill8 ай бұрын
Great vid!
@tiomkinnyborg228918 күн бұрын
I thought I knew, I've been exposed to both of them. But when you add effects they sound like each other. I guessed 50% wrong, thanks for opening my ears.
@dadduorp5 ай бұрын
I got them all right. 👍🏼 However, one popular tune with a distinct EP sound that I’ve always had trouble discerning which one is it, is Santana’s Black Magic Woman.
@JimmyFields-rm2zo2 ай бұрын
Pretty sure that was a Hohner piano, as used by the Beatles, Chicago and others.
@takcus3 ай бұрын
Thumb up for the song! And actually I can hear the difference in the sound more confidently - thanks!!
@user-kw4ht4bi5t6 ай бұрын
grreat job
@ofkhod3638 Жыл бұрын
I might be ignorant saying this but it kinda feels like if you add some drive to the Rhodes they'll be harder to differentiate
@Levi_SkardsenАй бұрын
On Roland digital pianos, they're called "1976 Suitcase" and Wurly 200" which is probably the closest they could get without infringement.
@HYDRODUST67 Жыл бұрын
thank you !!
@HDpiano Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@gingerfreak0118 күн бұрын
Interesting and informative, what more do you want from a vid? I now know which one I'm listening to.
@Rocketos2 жыл бұрын
nice video!! can u teach us about effects used for wurli and rhodes? thanks
@uberbeast113 Жыл бұрын
A bit of phaser and tremolo always goes down well with a Wurli. Chorus warms Rhodes up a treat. Reverb is always great with both. And....oh man....check out the studio version of The Noonward Race from Inner Mounting Flame album by Mahavishnu Orchestra, to hear what a ring modulator does for electric piano. That's Czech keyboard player Jan Hammer on keys, he whacks on the ring mod half way through his solo.
@HotspotsSoutheastКүн бұрын
I can easily tell the difference. I have a Wurlitzer Electronic Piano. The Rhodes sounds similar but not the same. I love hearing a new song come out and finding it has the Wurlitzer in it. Nora Jones does a lot with that keyboard. Pink Floyd used it. The Beach Boys. Dancing in the Moonlight is a great example of what the Wurlitzer sounds like, or Sheep from Pink Floyd.
@greigclement90814 ай бұрын
As a kid during the 70s I first heard Rhodes through the Charlie Brown animated specials and Taxi theme. Late 70s I heard Goodbye stranger and Logical Sog from Supertramp. I love the sounds of both these two keyboards. To my ears, the Wurli sounds a tad fuller & brighter, whereas the Rhodes has a tighter shorter attack. Of course both have their own vibrato & choreus effects. Love exploring the famous songs that use both pianos
@ibdense2 күн бұрын
I had swirling in the late 70s. It was tan, wooden, and had a flat top. Crunchy!
@F3nd3r282 жыл бұрын
Before this vidéo i've didnt hear anything about the Wurli. Now i Can Say, "Nice job on the Wurli" instead of the Rhodes. Thanks you for this vidéo. Very clear and cool and instructive 👍🏽😁
@HDpiano2 жыл бұрын
Ayy, thanks!
@nellysagundo663424 күн бұрын
Great video - love both keys, but Supertramp sounds breathtaking on the Wurli!
@oto.designtchav10416 күн бұрын
nice video!
@robertclymer6948 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Devin! Got the first comparison wrong!!! Dang it! I thought I would do well, NOT. Lol but love both of them. Is there a portable affordable keyboard out there that mimic both fairly well? thank you. Cheers from Motown!
@monteiro410017 күн бұрын
The Wurli sounds naturally more compressed and the Rhodes more expressive. Both sound amazing and without effects they are very unique, I use the "Reed" most of the time
@emmanuelgire8513Ай бұрын
I love both
@flyerbeyer5 ай бұрын
I love the versatality of the Rhodes, you can easyliy add some grit by adding saturation with the amp or any guitar effect. The sweet-spot where dynamic playing leads to break-up is pure gold.
@robertgrafton96821 күн бұрын
I only guessed wrong once (a song I didn't know). The bell-like, pure tone of the Rhodes is my favorite.
@ultimobile3 ай бұрын
yeah ! I haven't touched either for maybe 40 years - but I still remember preferring the Wurli - notice the Hammond off to the side there - so covering all the bases - good video thanks. I got most of them right.
@TryptychUK8 ай бұрын
I got every one right, but then I've been working with both for over 40 years. :) I describe them as "tinkle" versus "boing." The Rhodes has a very distinctive bell-like quality, particularly in the upper registers, whereas the Wurli is rather more muted, but has that distinctive bottom-end growly springy sound notably heard on a lot of Supertramp. They both have their roles, but personally I would call a Wurlitzer 200a every time.
@vakula55006 ай бұрын
amazing. thank you =) that was funny
@rikuzenith2 жыл бұрын
Well done, thanks! I've wondered about this. I think the samples also confirm to me that Wurlitzer has something about its timbre that, if it had to be described as abstractly as synth sounds are, it could be described as 'plastic'. A plastic electric piano, while Rhodes falls more under 'bells/mallets' as a sub tag to describe the timbre or what you recognise in the tone.
@HDpiano2 жыл бұрын
Good descriptors!
@uberbeast113 Жыл бұрын
Wurli, I think "woody"
@rikuzenith Жыл бұрын
@@uberbeast113 Oh yeah that will do!
@miropribanic55813 ай бұрын
2:48....Richard Tee of course, with MB on sax....epic!
@fucu412 жыл бұрын
I hope ur not to disappointed if people get it mixed up. Honestly knowing one or the other gets you respect.
@zaqareemalcolmАй бұрын
it probably really depends on the settings but it sounds like the rhodes has a more softer/hollow sound while the whirly feels slightly more overdriven
@schaddalton4 ай бұрын
To me, the Rhodes sounds more like a set of bells or, with some trem, a vibraphone. The Wurli, meanwhile, sounds simply like a piano run through an amp. However folks separate them in their minds, this was a great video.
@Hammerman483 ай бұрын
Both classics in their own right!
@1881Gordon3 ай бұрын
Wurli =Tangy, Woody. Rhodes= Bell like. With effects either can mess with your mind and confuse you. Both give beautiful sounds.
@SamT9873 ай бұрын
Not to mention the Hohner Pianet. Whole nother kettle of fish. ;-)
@Jukebox300Minecraft2 жыл бұрын
To me, the Rhodes sounds closer to a vibraphone and the Wurli sounds closer to an organ.
@HDpiano2 жыл бұрын
👌
@jammystraub4882 жыл бұрын
Yup
@robertjosephkeil Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@charlespetersohn6780Ай бұрын
You're right. In a way surprisingly. I am a Fender Rhodes sound addict. And although you gave us very good examples, I failed. Minimum 3 times on the Rhodes, same with the Wurli. Thanks!
@dontmesswiththeman2 жыл бұрын
Great video, also wanted to let you know that you were great as Hodgins on Bones.
@ashfaq19992 жыл бұрын
Great video. Both are keyboard legends 🎹
@HDpiano2 жыл бұрын
🎹🚀
@ashfaq19992 жыл бұрын
@@HDpiano Thanks 😊
@gabrieleponticiello68422 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demonstration. One question: what are we hearing here? The sound of the Wurly is from the internal speakers? What about the Rhodes? I can see a speaker cabinet below it... could you please shed some light on the actual sound capture for the video? Thank you very much!
@NDawgHoyt4 ай бұрын
I've been trying to figure out how to translate a piano score for a musical I'm playing (that asks for both these instruments) to be played on my humble little Yamaha keyboard that only has like 14 pre-built patches (3 for e. piano sounds). This video was very helpful. As soon as you explained it as tines vs. reeds I was able to easily hear the difference. I've still got a lot to learn on piano compared to my primary instrument but this is definitely gonna help me get the sounds I need. Now I just need to figure out what the score wants when it says "RMI". I think it's shorthand for Rocky Mountain Instruments but who knows? lol
@mariogallardo374311 ай бұрын
This is most definitely an awesome video comparing renowned classic vintage electric pianos. In today’s practicality, most musicians use portable keyboards to replicate the sound of the Fender Rhodes and Wurlitzer Wurli Bird. In your professional estimation, what are the top three keyboards (make and model) and keyboard amps (make and model) that come closest to replicating the original sound of the Fender Rhodes and Wurlitzer Wurli Bird? Thank you in advance for your response.
@colinbudd584012 күн бұрын
Thanks for this…. the guy that 1st got me paying attention to the Wurli sound was Ian McGlagan in the Small Faces.
@HisXLNC5 ай бұрын
One way I’ve always been able tell the difference is that the Rhodes is more bell-like. More like an electric celesta than an electric piano. The Wurli definitely has more bark and crunch to it.
@MrCanto792 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where to get great Rhodes or Wurli VSTs?? Weird spot to ask but it’s worth a shot
@Chris-qn6pr3 ай бұрын
With the Hammond in the background, you have the Holy Trinity right there.
@SamStormsKBD6 ай бұрын
Just recently I kinda got the idea of how to tell them apart but was still lost in how to define them in words 😂 tnx for the vid
@darwinsaye9 ай бұрын
I don’t generally have any trouble telling them apart, Rhodes: bell-like, Wurlitzer: barky, growly. But I play a Hohner Pianet T (Not the more well-known “N”), and THAT can really confound people, haha.
@LeifES9 ай бұрын
There's a thunderstorm outside right now and eerily just when you started playing Riders on the Storm (07:35) there was thunder joining in.. Roland sometimes call them 1976SuitCase and Wurly 200.
@garyssimo2 ай бұрын
too funny im in no california and we never get t storms but. predicted TOMORROW INTO THIS WORLD WERE THROWN....
@eyeball2263 ай бұрын
When I was young I found that sometimes I like the sound of EP more than other times. Eventually I worked out that I like Wurlis and don't particularly care for Rhodes. I got every example right in the test.
@tangyorange6509 Жыл бұрын
Okay, so I took your advice and listened to the Paul Simon song, and I really like it. But my issue is-WHAT LIVE VERSION? The Central Park show just didn’t hit the same to me, is it something else?
@edcolins5498 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, I'm a Wurli guy !
@SteveJones172pilot3 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this.. I never knew there was such a difference, and have always generically called both sounds "rhodes".. I could tell the difference though, especially in the higher tones..