Rich and Ric discuss the difference in mg's and strengths of the older steroids compared to today's inflated strengths. Very interesting and factual
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@nixazizu4 жыл бұрын
My favorite videos were this two guys talking about bodybuilding. Everything comes to end but those videos will stay forever. Rip Rich and Ric i will always remember you.
@oxon1on4944 жыл бұрын
Yeah... I miss that time😕😔
@ivo35983 жыл бұрын
cant believe they are both gone....they gone too soon mainly rich piana....
@ivo35983 жыл бұрын
still remember when this video comed out new...those were times Ric and Rich videos together
@steroidsR4losers2 жыл бұрын
ROIDERS are FAKE & UNHEALTHY! NATURALS are LEGIT & HEALTHIER! Stay natural buddy!
@kosanstanojevic2 жыл бұрын
Da, i mene su pokrenuli. Tad sam se vratio u trening kad sam ih gledao.
@maxxxmodelz40614 жыл бұрын
It's hard to believe both of these great men are gone now. RIP both Rich and Ric. Sad times.
@mura03 жыл бұрын
Fuck i didnt know Rics gone. :(
@maxxxmodelz40613 жыл бұрын
@@mura0 Yeah, it was quite sudden too. I know he'd been sick, but I didn't think it was like that. Really bummed me out because we are losing all the real pioneers and true men of the world now.
@steroidsR4losers2 жыл бұрын
ROIDERS are FAKE & UNHEALTHY! NATURALS are LEGIT & HEALTHIER! Stay natural buddy!
@mayhemmedia8118 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, these 2 were absolute gentlemen and supercool!
@remitto836711 ай бұрын
It's not hard to believe, but it doesn't make it suck any less. Two great personalities
@oak6845 Жыл бұрын
So wonderful that we all can go back to these heart warming videos and see both of these great men teaching their life lessons. Thank you Ric & Rich!
@optimus1212 Жыл бұрын
I liked both of these guys but there is nothing virtuous about doing drugs. I have been a bodybuilder since 1980. I'm still healthy and look young and can outperform the younger version of myself by far. Steroids are drugs and using them makes you a druggie. Ridiculous to even bother with them. Just my opinion after 42 years of training.
@christianbolt57614 жыл бұрын
In the late 80s, I remember putting on 25 pounds in 6 weeks from 50mg of deca every 5 days. The gear was properly dosed back then.
@lavrinpristazh49559 жыл бұрын
Rich is trolling. Everybody knows he's natural
@natgainz64068 жыл бұрын
+Lavrin Pristazh Yea he just jokes about his cycles.
@aljosalukic90625 жыл бұрын
A vegan natty
@meika69275 жыл бұрын
Does that look natural to you?
@marniemarnie26294 жыл бұрын
Kuisma Tossavainen r/woooosh
@tmoney02123 жыл бұрын
@@meika6927 you are stooooopid
@kosanstanojevic4 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace guys :( Both of you really inspired me when I was at a low point of my life
@steroidsR4losers2 жыл бұрын
We see how FAKE these STEROID users REALLY are when they finally can't take their STEROIDS because they got ARRESTED/in PRISON or the doctors tell them to come off because of health PROBLEMS...there goes those FAKE STEROID muscles they been HIDING behind! ROIDERS are FAKES!!! Stay natural buddy!
@kosanstanojevic2 жыл бұрын
@@steroidsR4losers Its none of your business...If someone chooses to take steroids that is his business, ming your owb fuckin business. Btw these people are dead, you shouldnt be shitting on them... I mean you can, its your karma... And none of my business.
@steroidsR4losers2 жыл бұрын
The ROIDERS are too SCARED to come off of the STEROIDS because they would LOSE all their "size" and "strength"! This just proves that the ONLY difference is the STEROIDS between someone that uses and not uses! The difference is NOT because they lift weights, eat and sleep. People that lift WITHOUT STEROIDS do that! You are NOT FOOLING us!! Lift weights WITHOUT STEROIDS and let's see how "big" & "strong" you REALLY are! Stay natural buddy!
@Baxter9110 жыл бұрын
1000 Anadrol. Imagine the pharmacists face.
@walternimroski99559 жыл бұрын
This might be the most candid, real talk about steroids and usage I've seen anyone do on KZfaq. You guys have big balls to come out freely like this and talk honestly about past usage. I respect the honesty here, especially on part of Rich, because he's still very active in the BB community, and has a lot more to lose by being honest.
@Disneymagic2410 жыл бұрын
Those pictures of ric and arnold are so sweet!
@johnbell74567 жыл бұрын
Body building has become a sub-division of drug addiction.
@martinez.partnership5 жыл бұрын
This guy roid usage caused his early death
@sugarsingh49515 жыл бұрын
Yuri Martinez yeah like that was gonna get him eventually unfortunately, but ultimately I think he overdose on coke. I don’t think he was like a cokehead or anything but sometimes it just happens randomly you never know.
@davidlynch90493 жыл бұрын
@@sugarsingh4951 Nope. No evidence he ODed. Coroner determined his heart and liver were twice as big as they should have been, and he had very advanced heart disease caused by steroids.
@timidater48033 жыл бұрын
@@davidlynch9049 ya HGH makes anything in your body big!!
@timidater48033 жыл бұрын
I agree!!!!
@jimcortez329310 жыл бұрын
80s to 150s in 10 days! Imagine what that will do to the tendons, and ligaments. This is one of the issues with steroids, that young people should understand. The muscle will get bigger, and stronger very quickly, but tendons take years to develop properly. In 10 days tendons that can normally only handle 80 pounds, are now hoisting 150. It is like taking the rigging, motor, cables, etc. off of a steel crane, and putting it on a wooden crane. The motor can handle it, but the crane will collapse. There definitely is something different now days, as back in the 80s guys were huge with v tapers, now days gyms are full of guys who look like someone put a garden hose up their ass, and filled them with water.
@WetPig5 жыл бұрын
When I started training I went up about 40lbs in a few months and I barely got stronger, but what happened was I stopped having any joint pain and could do more risky moves without feeling as if my shoulder was about to rip out. I'm still a super newbie as I rarely go to the gym up still. It was really nice to have a strong feeling body for the first time :)
@bryanfrombuffalo76855 жыл бұрын
Not w deca it helps w collagen n cartilage
@ensabanor99395 жыл бұрын
dang, I never thought about that, thanks for the insight
@blastofo4 жыл бұрын
Guys take steroids. Their bodies become dependent on it and the body stops making its own testosterone. Then the guys eventually cant afford it, or they lose their connections. They go cold turkey off it, and they get such severe depression they commit suicide.
@glo-brain4 жыл бұрын
Not exactly true. Winstrol will weaken your tendons or possibly contribute to uneven tendon growth - and is probably the source of a whole lot of pectoral tendon ruptures. Corticosteroids will also weaken tendons over time, which is why sensible physicians will only give an injection into the same area no more than twice a year. Although corticosteroids are great for getting rid of nagging inflammation, and inflammation over long periods of time can be dangerous. So breaking that inflammation cycle is an easy decision to make. Of course, there is always R.I.C.E. (Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation). Equipoise, on the other hand, will strengthen your tendons.
@GetOnWithItGaming7 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace rich miss you already brother x
@arsenalmanic4 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this. Now both are gone. A bit surreal, but this happens all the time. It's life & death I wasn't a big follower of their channels, but knew them well off youtube.
@larry48daley3 жыл бұрын
Two dead guys talking drugs.....
@davidlynch90493 жыл бұрын
@@larry48daley who both died because of it.
@steroidsR4losers2 жыл бұрын
We see how FAKE these STEROID users REALLY are when they finally can't take their STEROIDS because they got ARRESTED/in PRISON or the doctors tell them to come off because of health PROBLEMS...there goes those FAKE STEROID muscles they been HIDING behind! ROIDERS are FAKES!!! Stay natural buddy!
@chestnutsev79 жыл бұрын
Did my first cycle of gear in 83 ,just 100 Anapolon 5mg tabs from syntex labs . Then my second cycle in 85 i did Anapolon again with Halotestin 5mg tabs (upjohn). up to 4 tabs of each per day .I had 10 amps of Organon Deca-Durabolin-50 and took 2 per week . I was more than happy with results. In later years 90s, Pronabol-5 was a favourite here in uk ,i used it a few times on its own and was well impressed .
@criticalbil1 Жыл бұрын
How are you doing now?
@chestnutsev7 Жыл бұрын
@@criticalbil1 Fine thanks!
@RobsonLovecraft8 жыл бұрын
Rich is a great guy but its crazy, seems he got 10 years older the past two years.
@leart785 жыл бұрын
look at him now..
@bigguy39004 жыл бұрын
Robson his ex wife sara got him into recreational drugs. Not a good mix with steroids
@masajistafitness3 жыл бұрын
@@bigguy3900 he fucked himself she did the resto and he wasnt honest at all
@DavidBro-vz2zi3 жыл бұрын
Rick is dead or alive
@steroidsR4losers2 жыл бұрын
We see how FAKE these STEROID users REALLY are when they finally can't take their STEROIDS because they got ARRESTED/in PRISON or the doctors tell them to come off because of health PROBLEMS...there goes those FAKE STEROID muscles they been HIDING behind! ROIDERS are FAKES!!! Stay natural buddy!
@cshans0710 жыл бұрын
Ric, Your show is only getting better the longer you keep producing it. Keep them up, you're doing a great job! Thanks.
@PaulBodyBuilder10 жыл бұрын
I like when u talk about Steroids. I need more. I'm all natural but its very fascinating topic.
@ensabanor99395 жыл бұрын
exactly why i'm here, it's a thrill, a look into an unknown world that i'm too much of a f***cking chicken to explore myself, i'm grateful for anyone who takes steroids and post their results, very entertaining, it's magic I can never create myself
@libertarianation17 жыл бұрын
Mentzer competed at 212 lbs. For Rich P. to say he was big and massive speaks well for the old look!!
@nunomc28152 жыл бұрын
Drugs are exactly the same, problem is their source. Only "licensed" (FDA or equivalent outside US) pharmaceuticals are "trustable", in terms of drug's composition. Nowadays many people gets all these substances from unknown eastern factories/sources.
@scottnorman4085 жыл бұрын
I remember parabolin back in the late 80's. It was in ampules and you snapped the top off 76mg /ml.
@JAKOB19777 жыл бұрын
good video, im certainly not pro steroids or thinking about gambling with them myself, and perhaps leveraging basic problems in ones genetic..but I do cherise such a video here, where people re being truthfull and honest without being an big excuse for them self and certainly not the only one feeling that, hence the low minus counts.. gonna miss Piana..
@philxavi91938 жыл бұрын
U don't steroids kali muscle takes 1000mg top ramen 500mg tuna 200mg honey and he's huge no need for no steroids
@HCBCHEMISTRY4 жыл бұрын
I remember the time rich and ric were both alive and they did this video. I modeled my saltwater business as rich's products and supplements. Rich was like modern day Arnold and carried a crew like a gangster during MUSCLE shows. You can learn a lot from both men. Rip.
@AngelOliva30210 жыл бұрын
Hello Ric, Can you please do a segment on Mike Mentzer when you can. Thanks.
@farazahmad929310 жыл бұрын
Where is a good and trusted place to get steroids
@mikestewart84128 ай бұрын
I considered juicing when i plateaued after years of working out, right around the same time these videos were coming out regularly. Happy I decided to stay natty. Rich was an absolute gem of a human being but was unfortunately addicted to becoming a monster, at all costs. And now he's gone. It becomes an addiction like any other.
@huss033 ай бұрын
One of these guys died at 46...the other at 76. I wonder why...
@poeup84805 жыл бұрын
Rich really changed my life great content he is too real
@georgeanastasopoulos58655 жыл бұрын
Why take steroids, and human growth hormone? Consider the side effects that could endanger your health. Why not natural bodybuilding, especially if you've got the superior genetics, time, and opportunity?
@richbrake9910 Жыл бұрын
These two were so funny and knowledgeable.....damn I wish they were still here....
@TheRogueMonk10 жыл бұрын
by my experience taking non bb medication is that if your body sees something too much it will give side effects and it might not work very well too so i think ric has a very valid point.
@ScottNoren8 жыл бұрын
I was a power lifter and converted to OL at age 37.. Starting back OL now at 55.. Never juiced but I will tell you I got up to 120 lb dumbbell flys for 3 reps at my best...I quit powerlifting partly because of having to compete against juiced opponents. I love OL though and wish I started in my teens.
@zen8558 жыл бұрын
+Scott Noren sounds really ghey
@FacelessOfficial18 жыл бұрын
8:20-8:22 now that's one of those genius bad ideas....
@nataliewang7987 Жыл бұрын
Watching this takes me back a way.. really liked Rick and really liked rich both together was just like going to the movies. You could really sit down and watch because you new it was going to be a good show.
@youssef.sarhan11 ай бұрын
It's true. Same thing happened with pre-workouts. In 2005-2010, pre-workouts were wild. Now, it's just a sweet drink and a few tingles.
@Sami-hm9kq9 жыл бұрын
I mean no disrespect , but who the fuck would wanna look like Rich Pianna ? Isn't it too much ?
@cjam36602 жыл бұрын
I admire Rick for his passion, he wasn't that great to speak of far as being some kinda renown body builder. He'll my Uncle never lifted a weight in his life but Dam was he naturally amazeing, he was an actual natural muscle body fanomon, honestly would have made Rick look weak. Rick put himself in the game because he loved the commerodery and passion for it, thats what made him famious it wasn't his body build...passion goes a long ways. We miss you Rick
@JosephBarnett-oj5uqАй бұрын
Sucks these guys not being here .
@ae74689010 жыл бұрын
Arguably the best "lifter tandem" on KZfaq
@gregchapman61902 жыл бұрын
These 2 guys together were great
@PinyataSpirit5 жыл бұрын
nice observation about Mentzer, he, like others realized how its far healthier increase your metabolic use of energy(mitochondrial efficiency) instead increasing food dose.
@robertgladden98704 жыл бұрын
With all due respect Ric, why interview a guy about working out and "getting big" when he had a doctor inject his muscles with liquid glass gel PMMA? Doesn't that just feed into his illusion or body dismorphia? Did you ever discuss this with Rich?
@mlong7312710 жыл бұрын
Love these videos! Keep em comin Ric!
@stuartsmith5010 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work man I really enjoy your videos and will be recommending them to all my friends. I pretty much share all of them via a link after watching!
@appv1210 жыл бұрын
***** lol...
@khronin5 жыл бұрын
Is anything they are talking about now legal for human consumption in order to gain muscle--without a disability.If this stuff is ordered online--how do you knw it is what it is--even rich at one point said he took something and was not sure what it is.
@evilqtip70983 жыл бұрын
Love your show RIC Miss seeing you guy's man have to go back in time..
@WATCHINGthisthing9 жыл бұрын
250 pounds at 19 ? fuckin hell
@samb2025 жыл бұрын
Damn I wish I would have seen this years ago. Ric said with his Canadian pharmacy you could write in any amount of refills so you could get unlimited pills off one script. I just saw an article about this and how Canadian pharmacies had to change thier practices.
@bbehzadi4132 жыл бұрын
Two legends we miss you guys
@HerpDerp819610 жыл бұрын
He went from 80's to 150's on incline in 10 days, holy fuck.
@josuvaroy0074 жыл бұрын
RIP both of U😔🙁
@TeaDoogun10 жыл бұрын
Lol, i thought 'Doc Schwartz' was a myth XD Love these vids.
@LuKe311976 жыл бұрын
Hey Ric, given the relatively little information and knowledge there was about steroids back in the late 60's and early 70's, how common was it for you guys to experience side effects like gyno and low sex drive and how did you guys deal with it since I'm assuming post cycle therapy or testosterone to avoid estrogen wasn't a common practice.
@t_ho174410 жыл бұрын
Rich is a perfect example that steroid users don't die in their "Mid 40's" the man is 70 years old and looks great and healthy!! Good for you man!
@t_ho174410 жыл бұрын
Ric***
@MrRossT110 жыл бұрын
Bob Clapp. 40 years roid user. It's the OTHER drugs that kill folks. www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2002-08-15/news/roid-warrior/
@garrettord33046 жыл бұрын
RIP Rich
@donkeyballs33075 жыл бұрын
I gain 18 lbs in 6 weeks, on half a cc a week of test
@holt270610 жыл бұрын
Love the videos as always,just 2 guys chewing the fat,awesome,keep it up rich n ric!
@zxtenn10 жыл бұрын
Ric-- instead of Celebrex maybe you could try 'gabapentin' ?I used to take Celebrex many years ago until it was taken off the market so my Doctor put me on Gabapentin-- been taking 7-9 daily, 300 mgs , I take 3 times a day- morning, evening and at night with my Lipitor-- so 2100-2700 mg daily
@FollowTheWhiteRabbit3335 жыл бұрын
RIP Rich...you were a great man with a big heart
@classact91444 жыл бұрын
volleyballcrew Literally
@stevenflanagan72064 жыл бұрын
It was a pleasure to listen to Rich when he was with Ric. Terrible to listen and watch Rich on his own channel when he was playing a character.
@Jeff-sp7bg Жыл бұрын
Terrible? I thought Rich was great on his own channel. He was being himself. Love it or hate it....
@jacksongents49933 жыл бұрын
Ric rest in peace. I was 1 of the guys holding the capitol record standing next to Draper & Arnold...Ric you came into the gym told all of us, one of your kidneys were not functioning..in the 80's..you were taking 2 di-bole everyday since 1963.......Why Ric.?.......Arnold had open heart surgery 3x........HEALTH IS #1carlothemovie
@kennymac19118 жыл бұрын
Love the show. Great info. very interesting.
@Coachkieranhalfy10 жыл бұрын
Great video, lot of respect for you guys.
@jmurray2279 жыл бұрын
Excellent videos true and knowledgeable many need to know talks about peptides.
@SuperBenjamin20097 жыл бұрын
you can get big without doing drugs. a shortcut now may look good now. but in the long run naturel is the way to go. btw i have done 150 dumbell press without doing any drugs
@erickelly41076 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not there are ways to use steroids without hurting yourself somehow. This idea that there somehow must be a "negative" to every "positive" (drug assisted help) one receives is utterly absurd / completely unfounded BS. Just because something is of great benefit doesn't somehow make it inherently evil in someway. There are countless drugs out there that have helped improve the lives of people without corresponding "negatives" some morons assume should be coming.
@SuperBenjamin20093 жыл бұрын
@@erickelly4107 IQ + 200
@FOKUSXLS10 жыл бұрын
Love out honest these guys are !!
@onthe14816 жыл бұрын
These are too very honest intellectual men. They should be speakers and educate the public about steroids and the good old days and how things have changed you know give speeches at places like Princeton University and the like.
@gpipeline5 жыл бұрын
Gino Rossellini your drugged up idol.
@onthe14815 жыл бұрын
@@gpipeline you're pathetic as those two talking. All three of you are stupid
@tomek84pietowski9310 жыл бұрын
Another important thing which Ric and Rich didn't mantion (probably even more important than gear) is Food. Back in 70s everything was much better quality, organic without all chemicals we pomped into animals and veg. to make it grow faster...and cheaper.
@jacobmcdowell9518 Жыл бұрын
Miss these guys
@Vitalbowhunting5 жыл бұрын
7:45 sounds like an Alex Jones impression lol
@Superpity073 жыл бұрын
Rip guys... Still enjoy these vids
@lanekearns36009 жыл бұрын
It took me a minute to realize that he missing a pinkie.
@robertarnold71877 жыл бұрын
Tren cough put me right down on the floor thinking I was gonna choke to death...lol....got used to it after awhile.:)
@michaelbroad62947 жыл бұрын
Robert Arnold tren cough isn't a good thing it means youve nipped a vein and a bit of the tren has mixed with your blood.. Really not a good thing it should be absorbed threw muscle. so next time go a mm or 2 to the right or left because your clearly near a vein
@robertarnold71877 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know tren cough isn't cool, but not going to kill you. I don't use tren anymore as the side effects are too much for me. Night sweats, headaches, aggression, etc..it does work though.
@SoIoCreep8 жыл бұрын
WHOA! I am just now noticing that Ric is missing half a finger "right pinky finger".
@jgrm44434 жыл бұрын
SoIoCreep; Ask the Japanese Yakuza about it.
@slbrick10 жыл бұрын
Why did they shut down Rich's youtube channel?
@freewheelministry37204 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Love this content
@06livefast10 жыл бұрын
2:54 POWERFUL Ric Drasin in the house!!!!
@1deagr10 жыл бұрын
I need to inject myself with water after watching this
@PNL_King10 жыл бұрын
Companies just try to get you to buy/use more of their product.
@BKDDY3 жыл бұрын
RIP to both of them.
@OrangeDiamond3310 жыл бұрын
WHERE DID RICH'S CHANNEL GO?!?!
@coachgumby142110 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't surprise me if a 10mg UG dbol are actually only 1mg.
@Tonal.Harmony3 жыл бұрын
Would he have gotten big on 1 dbol/day instead of 2?
@gregbrown97659 жыл бұрын
You have some very good underground labs out there but I think the problem is all the powders come from China. So who really knows how potent they are. A lot of labs do test potency but I find it hard to believe they do it for every batch.
@SAagreedSA9 жыл бұрын
Serious question, if you got in a fight what would your game plan be? Put 'em away quick, or could you last and make it a brawl? How good are you at moving that impressive mass around? Answer the age old question once and for all, what would a bodybuilder actually do in a fight?
@MagaKoz5 жыл бұрын
It's just mind blowing to me people still take all that shit or put garbage in their bodies. I Just learned about this rich guy a few hours ago and he seemed like such a smart guy too. Very sad he probably could have done alot more good in the world if he got off it.
@EverDayBest9 жыл бұрын
More likely that resistance to the drug is the reason. (Aside from people selling products undermine wrong name).
@funkymonk7010 жыл бұрын
Great that people can be real honest to keep it safe.
@nameandaddress8 жыл бұрын
cam somebody tell me what a doc in the 60's write a script for dbol for??
@SuperCanuck7779 жыл бұрын
not necessary to blaspheme Rich to make you're point....
@mrmurphypiers12414 жыл бұрын
Yes it is
@alexcostello51785 жыл бұрын
With any drug u can not belive the cc. The cc per unit of measure is never what u think it is per dilution of product!
@ScottNoren8 жыл бұрын
I did drug free powerlifting way back..dumb sport but my max on the fly, just an exercise for fun that was part of a workout, I got up to 120 lbs per hand at a body weight of 80-85 kg
@forrestmunden78778 жыл бұрын
+Scott Noren Who even says that?
@ScottNoren8 жыл бұрын
drug free lifting is the way to go..the people who use drugs just feel they cannot be happy without certain results, goals...snatching 231 lbs at 43 years old was amazing drug free..can only imagine what I would have done at 23 years old if I had known about OL.
@brianriddell84254 жыл бұрын
They both will be missed 😿
@johndoe-ie1be6 жыл бұрын
Miss Rich. :(
@PoppysGuitar3 жыл бұрын
Ric is dead?? I just saw a vid where he is talking about Rich and his death.
@Christopher25S8 жыл бұрын
If ml & cc are the same thing why are they being discussed like they are different? Am I missing something ? Milligrams = cubic centimeter
@dolphin0698 жыл бұрын
mg = mass, cc = volume
@Christopher25S8 жыл бұрын
Daniel Earle What's the difference ?
@neoanderson3675 жыл бұрын
Remember back when lifting weights was about lifting weights?
@davidlynch90493 жыл бұрын
When?
@whatdidyousay14558 жыл бұрын
Mr Oilympia 2016. Synthlord!
@junkrat110 жыл бұрын
love the videos as per usual!
@ronjames61285 жыл бұрын
First off...if the steroids ARE LEGITIMATE...than THE dosage on the label has to be, BY LAW, what's in the drug...again, are they truthfully legitimate and pharmaceutical steroids made by legit companies. That is a law by our government regarding ANY MEDICATION that people take. If they are made by someone than all bets are off.
@picketf10 жыл бұрын
why buy street stuff when you can get the pure stuff at the pharmacy? depending where in the world you buy it 250mg of test costs like 4 dollars