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11 ай бұрын

Nick Wright, Chris Broussard and Kevin Wildes discuss LeBron James after Rich Paul’s comments saying LeBron can play for “as long as he wants” and his comparison to Karl Malone.
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@FirstThingsFirst
@FirstThingsFirst 11 ай бұрын
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@johncampbell7417
@johncampbell7417 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@naasiftyson8542
@naasiftyson8542 11 ай бұрын
I’m in tears yo🤣😂🤣😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😅😂😂😂😂😂😂
@davidyoung4637
@davidyoung4637 11 ай бұрын
@@johncampbell7417guyFF
@mykustomzdiecast962
@mykustomzdiecast962 11 ай бұрын
No thanks LOL..i have enough of NIck's ludacris take on this very short clip :)
@matolaugh6167
@matolaugh6167 11 ай бұрын
🤡s
@xander908
@xander908 11 ай бұрын
Lebron built a school, Karl Malone shouldn’t be allowed within 100 feet of one
@shafiksunderani4230
@shafiksunderani4230 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@genocidehero9687
@genocidehero9687 11 ай бұрын
Stole that from the other vid huh? 😂
@byroncameron6503
@byroncameron6503 11 ай бұрын
Karl was delivering mail to that school!! 😂😂 idc, idc 😂
@Jay3rd313
@Jay3rd313 11 ай бұрын
Mmmmmmm Barz
@craigugulini3409
@craigugulini3409 11 ай бұрын
No one really talks about him getting a really young girl pregnant back in the day……
@kingbirdIII
@kingbirdIII 11 ай бұрын
Malones midrange is extremely underrated
@alexnewkirk4526
@alexnewkirk4526 11 ай бұрын
Money from about 13 feet out
@Mithrandir523
@Mithrandir523 11 ай бұрын
Missed it when it mattered tho lol, that's what was so frustrating about him
@iwishiwasthomasshelby
@iwishiwasthomasshelby 11 ай бұрын
You mean mid ranged teens?
@seanadachi9795
@seanadachi9795 11 ай бұрын
LeBron doesn't know what mid-range is
@barakesmith-washington6946
@barakesmith-washington6946 11 ай бұрын
@@seanadachi9795 don't need it
@tweezy5804
@tweezy5804 11 ай бұрын
To say you could take someone's athletic ability away and they would still be Karl Malone. That is an amazing compliment.
@JosePremo0813
@JosePremo0813 11 ай бұрын
Right that’s what I said
@tono6621
@tono6621 11 ай бұрын
Without Lebron, rich Paul would be working at t mobile rn
@JosePremo0813
@JosePremo0813 11 ай бұрын
@@tono6621 sellin drugs somewhere 😂
@evflorybarnes
@evflorybarnes 11 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@BeatByMars
@BeatByMars 11 ай бұрын
I was thinkin the same lol Karl Malone was a muthafuckin beast
@Dondissimo
@Dondissimo 11 ай бұрын
In the 96-97 regular season the Jazz scored 103.1 ppg In the 98-99 regular season the Jazz scored 93.3 ppg. This gives us an avg of 98.2 ppg. Karl’s 26.1 ppg during those seasons has him scoring ~ 26.6% of his team’s points. (Strictly per game..not a total number stat) The Lakers over the last two seasons have scored 112.1 ppg and 117.2 ppg respectively. This gives us an avg of 114.65 ppg. LeBron’s 29.6 ppg during those seasons has him scoring ~ 25.8% of his team’s points. (Strictly per game..not a total number stat) Brou’s point about the volume of scoring is technically correct, but probably isn’t a significant enough difference to be up in arms about the disrespect of Karl Malone. Their scoring numbers are comparable. He should’ve focused less on the volume and more just on the fact that LeBron can score at volume from the outside. He’s Malone’s size, but they play nothing alike. Hard to actually compare
@jacobsamano9761
@jacobsamano9761 10 ай бұрын
Finally someone who knows what they are talking about. I thought these people had gone extinct, especially in the age of Twitter and KZfaq comment wars.
@thomaslee2558
@thomaslee2558 9 ай бұрын
and it’s way easier to score now
@thomaslee2558
@thomaslee2558 9 ай бұрын
plus lebron has ball 70 percent of time
@genocidehero9687
@genocidehero9687 11 ай бұрын
Lebron - Four Rings Malone - Four(teen) year old old knocked up
@mzilber1
@mzilber1 11 ай бұрын
lmao!
@LembeckIsStaying
@LembeckIsStaying 11 ай бұрын
Sad part is she was actually 13. 🤮
@NightCrawler810
@NightCrawler810 11 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ckq
@ckq 11 ай бұрын
@@LembeckIsStaying 12
@sup9542
@sup9542 11 ай бұрын
And he was 17 or 18 and it gets into the realm of poverty and race.
@dhruvit_s
@dhruvit_s 11 ай бұрын
Lebron James in 2013 and 2014 vs 2022 and 2023 PPG: 27.0 vs 29.6 RPG: 7.5 vs 8.3 ASG: 6.8 vs 6.5 FG%: 56% vs 51% FT%: 75% vs 76% MPG: 37.8 vs 36.4 By Nick's argument, Lebron is a better player now than he was in Miami
@MannyTwice
@MannyTwice 11 ай бұрын
At his age now offensively he is....his bag is much bigger (obviously not the same athleticism). It's the defense that's the problem
@rpthepresident4654
@rpthepresident4654 11 ай бұрын
Miami Bron is just a younger defender not a better one dude just don’t sit in the chair anymore
@aaronclay4665
@aaronclay4665 11 ай бұрын
Timo be fair, he us save for stamina and def..... Also let's ve real he had 3 other stars on that Miami team?
@Misaki11111
@Misaki11111 11 ай бұрын
Not better, smarter.
@BasicBodThor
@BasicBodThor 11 ай бұрын
@@MannyTwice That and he shoots way more 3s which to me is why his points have gone up a bit but his FG% has dipped a bit
@Nickvanexel23
@Nickvanexel23 11 ай бұрын
Karl Malone only missed 10 games his entire 18year stint with jazz that’s crazy
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution 11 ай бұрын
Should have been in prison the whole time
@siba2379
@siba2379 11 ай бұрын
Those teens kept him rejuvenated
@lisarollins4880
@lisarollins4880 11 ай бұрын
@@mitchtherevolution 😆😆😆😆😆😆
@leroysanders3564
@leroysanders3564 11 ай бұрын
And how many rings did he get out of that🫣🫣🫣
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution 11 ай бұрын
@@leroysanders3564 I strongly believe that Utah will never win a championship as the Jazz. You can't be the Mormon capital of the world, and call your team the Jazz, and expect to not be a cursed franchise.
@1jdr127
@1jdr127 11 ай бұрын
This show is PERFECT! Brou vs Nick = Platinum!!!!! Wildes = Comedic Gold!!!!
@tysoncaves420
@tysoncaves420 10 ай бұрын
Wildes in the background: geeee willikerrz
@joseboyer-zk7qg
@joseboyer-zk7qg 11 ай бұрын
Broussard calling out Nick was gold
@jerrodgarland2604
@jerrodgarland2604 11 ай бұрын
Nick wasn’t wrong
@dbz_feats7723
@dbz_feats7723 11 ай бұрын
@@jerrodgarland2604 he admitted he was
@mr.e347
@mr.e347 11 ай бұрын
Malone played 19 seasons. Never missed playoffs. Led Jazz to 18 playoffs when Stock was already washed. Never missed playoffs. Malone longevity was way better than Dirks, KGs, Chucks. Chris has a legit point.
@boatfromvsg8062
@boatfromvsg8062 11 ай бұрын
Lebron played 20 seasons and went to 17 playoffs
@zaywilliamson8347
@zaywilliamson8347 11 ай бұрын
@@boatfromvsg8062dick riding ain’t you
@mkpm1304
@mkpm1304 11 ай бұрын
​@boatfromvsg8062 you forgot in year 2 he actually had a winning record and somehow misses playoff?!
@mkpm1304
@mkpm1304 11 ай бұрын
Yes Malone was incredibly durable, but so was LeBron until a few years ago. Also, I repeat this constantly but LeBron took 4 different teams to the Finals. FOUR. And only had 1 good coach. Imo familiarity goes a long way. And Sloane was an all time great coach imo..
@jonathanbrown3046
@jonathanbrown3046 10 ай бұрын
Last time I checked 🤔🧐 Stockton the ALL TIME assist leader is the reason the Utah jazz made all those playoff appearances .
@jsoul99
@jsoul99 11 ай бұрын
How come its not ok to throw up a bunch a numbers when it comes to Malone and Lebron but its ok to throw up those same numbers to disregard everything else about Lebron.
@insidejah9293
@insidejah9293 10 ай бұрын
Right! Or to minimize his numbers and just say "Longevity Longevity". The 2016 Finals being the most egregious example.
@shamelessjt1758
@shamelessjt1758 2 ай бұрын
Lenron averages 2 more pts per game than karl malone for his entire career... more assists less rebounds.
@IvanRandomDude
@IvanRandomDude 11 ай бұрын
Based on Nick's logic Luka is better than 93 Jordan. Just look at the numbers. Giannis, Jokic and Embiid are all better than 00-02 Shaq, look at the numbers. God, SGA and Dame are as good of a scorers as 07 Kobe Bryant and OKC Durant, they average similar numbers. Comparing numbers from an era when the pace was the slowest in history to now is silly
@tednockowitz7749
@tednockowitz7749 11 ай бұрын
Exactly. Part of me feels like Nick knows that this point, they just have to find something to fill the time.😂😂
@thisnewnamesystemisdumb
@thisnewnamesystemisdumb 11 ай бұрын
Context matters. He compared a 37-38 year old to a mvp winner in their prime. You didnt. 🤦‍♂️ Please get smarter.
@lWingSpanl
@lWingSpanl 11 ай бұрын
@@thisnewnamesystemisdumbI don’t understand why they just keep skipping over that🤣🤦🏾‍♂️
@BooHefner
@BooHefner 11 ай бұрын
If due to how slow the pace was can we stop over exaggerating how good the defense was based purely on numbers?🤔
@BooHefner
@BooHefner 11 ай бұрын
​@@thisnewnamesystemisdumbThat was Malone's 13th and 14th year in the league I believe so I wouldn't consider that as prime.
@Robrr89
@Robrr89 11 ай бұрын
Nick is the type of media personality Barkley talks about when it comes to making it personal
@holymolythejabroni9040
@holymolythejabroni9040 11 ай бұрын
100%. He’s Skip Bayless in different clothes.
@agtjackbauer
@agtjackbauer 11 ай бұрын
Nick just wants to get in LBJ's pants so bad. He's like the nerd that wants the hot girl and embarrasses himself and never gets her.
@thisisnotmyname8766
@thisisnotmyname8766 11 ай бұрын
At least Nick is funny
@jetblkm3112
@jetblkm3112 11 ай бұрын
I mean Nick is a clutch sports guy🤷🏾‍♂️
@Robrr89
@Robrr89 11 ай бұрын
Nick has some great takes on everything other team and player in the NBA not name Lebron James. Everything tied to LBJ he over exaggerates or straight up paints everything out of context to make LBJ look greater than he is.
@mos8558
@mos8558 11 ай бұрын
Wilds is surprisingly very likable now unlike when he started... good job wilds I'm happy for you
@Camefromnone
@Camefromnone 11 ай бұрын
Facts he used to be annoying af
@randallmarcum9998
@randallmarcum9998 11 ай бұрын
The game is at a far faster pace nowadays Nick meaning more possessions and thus more opportunities to record counting stats and thus those numbers are never quite fair to players that played in eras with a slower pace
@TheFantasyDad
@TheFantasyDad 11 ай бұрын
Wrong. Another brain washed fan.
@marcusstrinidad
@marcusstrinidad 11 ай бұрын
It’s not too much different. Pace during Malone’s MVP years were 90 and todays pace is 98. The game was actually faster in the 70s and 80s but that’s unimportant. So the question is can Karl Malone make up the difference in stats if there were 8 more possessions per game when he played? Odds are, probably not. He couldn’t get enough assists, points and rebounds with 8 more possessions to make up the difference of what LBJ does with about 98 possessions per 48 minutes. The biggest difference is offensive rating where teams have an offensive rating of 115 league wide whereas during Malone’s years were 105 league wide. Offensive rating (points per 100 possessions) disregards tempo and number of possessions in a game. So really todays NBA outscored Malone’s NBA by 10 points per 100 possessions. The league’s offense efficiency might be a bigger explanation of why LBJ’s stats look so much better.
@theronwright1413
@theronwright1413 11 ай бұрын
The 80s were identical
@McGomezAddams
@McGomezAddams 11 ай бұрын
"If LeBron's ceiling would be Karl Malone, he'd be a bust" - Chris Broussard 2003
@TheGoatLocker
@TheGoatLocker 11 ай бұрын
Mic drop
@waltertaylor44
@waltertaylor44 11 ай бұрын
This is the research we need
@chrishaswell4405
@chrishaswell4405 11 ай бұрын
But they aren't talking about LeBron Ceiling there talking about year 20 LeBron nice try though lol
@onidtubes
@onidtubes 11 ай бұрын
That is not what they are talking though.
@chrishaswell4405
@chrishaswell4405 11 ай бұрын
​@waltertaylor44 but its not relevant to this debate .. this wasn't about LeBron ceiling it was about Malones ceiling and LeBron floor lol
@ClareAmel
@ClareAmel 11 ай бұрын
It’s actually so INSANE hearing Broussard defend Malone so passionately. Doing a better job than Malone’s defense attorney
@mr.mr.4772
@mr.mr.4772 11 ай бұрын
Louisiana Pride
@buzziinmarciano5709
@buzziinmarciano5709 11 ай бұрын
Gotta hold on to that 90s/Mj lure
@hooligan5381
@hooligan5381 11 ай бұрын
this corny cause thats 30 years old and the girl didn't want press charges lol
@danielphagans2066
@danielphagans2066 11 ай бұрын
I see l showed up on 8mile today not prepared with bars Yall are dropping these Malone bars are funny!😅😂
@justindwarika2523
@justindwarika2523 11 ай бұрын
He's defending his ability to play a game, not his character. This a sports show, not Law and Order
@erikpuka2627
@erikpuka2627 11 ай бұрын
Malone had an actual mid range game and actual post skills. Could actually guard people too. Most big defenders just protect the rim. He could guard bigs.
@coryburns9161
@coryburns9161 11 ай бұрын
And have s ex with underage girls
@TheDamis360
@TheDamis360 11 ай бұрын
Lebron could guard in his prime like any top defender
@wesleymiller3830
@wesleymiller3830 11 ай бұрын
@@TheDamis360no he couldn’t
@anthonyauthentic7934
@anthonyauthentic7934 11 ай бұрын
@@wesleymiller3830he could tho… what?
@JustinJohnson-tq7wr
@JustinJohnson-tq7wr 11 ай бұрын
@@wesleymiller3830 He literally locked up Prime D-rose in a playoff series. "locked up" as well as anyone could
@REALJayDOTWill
@REALJayDOTWill 11 ай бұрын
LeBron and Stockton not going to the finals is an extremely crazy take lmao
@waynebell246
@waynebell246 8 ай бұрын
I was waiting for this!!!
@pharma2546
@pharma2546 11 ай бұрын
Nick wright is signed to Clutchsport, it’s unprofessional for him not disclosing that info
@noobgonebad9860
@noobgonebad9860 11 ай бұрын
Best show on planet earth. Fox needs to get this crew paid. They fit so well together
@ajrivera1993
@ajrivera1993 11 ай бұрын
I scrolled down to the comments, was not disappointed.
@hot2chocolate
@hot2chocolate 11 ай бұрын
Chris’ face at 3:27…lmao 😂 my man’s was sick😂😂😂
@Mr123Parka
@Mr123Parka 11 ай бұрын
This is the most stat bending performance ever by Nick Wright. Never seen someone use stats and ignore pace and era this much. Actually sick but them klutch boys are paying well
@Person-gk5ee
@Person-gk5ee 11 ай бұрын
Plus how many games lebrons missed
@stopjordan4193
@stopjordan4193 11 ай бұрын
Lebron scored 25.8% of his teams points and Malone scored 26.5% of his teams points in those two seasons on a per game basis. Another factor was that Malone was a FT merchant and Stockton carried him.
@Person-gk5ee
@Person-gk5ee 11 ай бұрын
@@stopjordan4193 now bring up average points per game for their teams in both those seasons
@BeeKay2715
@BeeKay2715 11 ай бұрын
@@Person-gk5eewhat does that have to do with the percentage of points they scored?
@davidkang6267
@davidkang6267 11 ай бұрын
@@Person-gk5ee 117.2 & 112.1 for lebron's season, 103.1 & 96.5 for Malone. yea pretty similar in terms of percentage, so pace shouldn't be an issue
@CalebAlucardtheHagan
@CalebAlucardtheHagan 11 ай бұрын
The blind reveal is silly in this instance because Malone was playing in an era where BY THE VERY RULES OF THE GAME it was significantly harder to score. If the roles were reversed, we'd see Malone with better numbers in his twilight years unquestionably. But who am I kidding? We're just filling airtime in July... Still watching and loving every minute, though. XD
@SadSinStory
@SadSinStory 11 ай бұрын
" BY THE VERY RULES OF THE GAME" so he was built to be the best he could be for the rules but somehow he would get even better if his build wouldn't be perfectly fit and the rules would be different? 🤣🤣 based on just what ur saying you already dismantled that assertion yourself. not to mention other slew of problems with what ur saying.
@user-cs1pi8zg1n
@user-cs1pi8zg1n 11 ай бұрын
​@@SadSinStorypeople say anything to discredit any Lebron accomplishments. It was harder to score then because outside of the superstars the league wasn't nowhere near as skilled as the players of today.
@Cooleyhyh
@Cooleyhyh 11 ай бұрын
@@SadSinStoryfrom what I read you clearly missed the point 😂
@Truthorfib
@Truthorfib 11 ай бұрын
The 8% from three in Malone's MVP years was crazy though 😂 I think a lot of old guys back then would have issues to adapting to the shooter league we have now. Shaq for example one of the greatest ever only made one three point his whole career. In today's NBA all the top big men can shoot. Jokic, KD, Embiid. Not being able to shoot as a big man is a flaw that can be exploited like how they exploit Giannis in the playoffs. Giannis lucky he has Middleton to bale him out but Middleton is just not that consistent
@shido1716
@shido1716 11 ай бұрын
By rules of the game it’s harder to score now… being able to double and triple team as much as they want… playing zones… illegal defense calls… just cuz they allowed goons to foul hard doesn’t mean the entire league was like that or that the entire league was elite defensively…
@moldydonut27
@moldydonut27 11 ай бұрын
I dont know why, but the drumroll Nick does at the beginning pumps me up everytime lol
@jdbarnes5987
@jdbarnes5987 11 ай бұрын
“Josh, still employed” was some beautifully subtle shade at ESPN lmao
@terrencemoore8739
@terrencemoore8739 11 ай бұрын
I almost imploded when they said it was Bru's last day...this week😂
@davidkeith6907
@davidkeith6907 11 ай бұрын
So is he (bru) leaving the show soon?
@dskwared2u610
@dskwared2u610 11 ай бұрын
When Karl came in the league he was strictly an athletic dunk guy. He worked on his game to develop his shooting. He averaged nearly 80 games per season in 18 of his 19 years in the league.
@mikemars7888
@mikemars7888 11 ай бұрын
He also avg 80 teens in those years sooo
@Wisestomatoe
@Wisestomatoe 11 ай бұрын
@@mikemars7888corny , get a life
@iwishiwasthomasshelby
@iwishiwasthomasshelby 11 ай бұрын
He also worked on his pickup skill. Around an elementary school.
@Jbcomedystl
@Jbcomedystl 11 ай бұрын
@@Mithrandir523so players aren’t great without a title? I hate you new dudes
@youdub7926
@youdub7926 11 ай бұрын
@@Mithrandir523 Thats because he had to face MJ, if LeChina had to face MJ he would never have a title either.
@popcrnshower
@popcrnshower 11 ай бұрын
Malone made all defensive first team both of his MVP seasons.
@TechyCatz
@TechyCatz 11 ай бұрын
This is the only channel that keeps me invested for almost 20 minutes
@94feelmeflow
@94feelmeflow 11 ай бұрын
Wildes is unintentionally hilarious
@glasnoirx
@glasnoirx 11 ай бұрын
I know - I died and rewound that aside he made after Brou said he probably didn’t take 100 3’s in his whole career, and without a beat’s worth of time, wildes jokes about how he probably shouldn’t have, if he’s only making 8% of them. Lol wildes is the hero we don’t deserve
@matchhunter7012
@matchhunter7012 11 ай бұрын
And delusional most of the time
@fluff975
@fluff975 11 ай бұрын
not unintentionally--he is a certified clown. world class troll. gotta love him
@LSmoney215
@LSmoney215 11 ай бұрын
Wildes is dumb af
@joeyc4633
@joeyc4633 11 ай бұрын
Wildes is f’n cringe
@SuperSonic_868
@SuperSonic_868 11 ай бұрын
In 1990 Malone played all 82 games and put up 31/11 on 56% shooting. Off court, he's a scumbag, but on the court, dude was a monster
@davidrobertson4010
@davidrobertson4010 11 ай бұрын
The most sensible comment so far
@RJTham-wq9eo
@RJTham-wq9eo 11 ай бұрын
I agree, he's a Monster on and off the court.
@TheLeaderOfAunthenticity
@TheLeaderOfAunthenticity 11 ай бұрын
Difference is bron still a monster goin into yr 21 😂
@notimportant3686
@notimportant3686 11 ай бұрын
so then don't you mean, on the court, dude was a monster.... off the court dude was a monster
@johnnybaxter1953
@johnnybaxter1953 11 ай бұрын
What was Malone in year 21 though
@GlueRecords
@GlueRecords 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Josh!!! Was the best sentence in this entire argument.
@ktpast
@ktpast 11 ай бұрын
When wilds said, josh… still employed 🤣
@eloyzamora8422
@eloyzamora8422 11 ай бұрын
Lebron only played 110 games the last 2 years. Karl malone in 19 seasons played less than 80 games twice.
@sindilacion
@sindilacion 11 ай бұрын
Karl malone didn't have to cover as much ground as players do today. Playoff mileage is a factor also.
@_SIRENITY_
@_SIRENITY_ 11 ай бұрын
You can put Stockton in that bracket too
@anudesignsbynkrumah9081
@anudesignsbynkrumah9081 11 ай бұрын
@@sindilacion what????v you guys gotta stop this. malone was in the vpaint banging against big men. lebrick scores by running over smaller players
@antoniobridges6209
@antoniobridges6209 11 ай бұрын
@@sindilacion19 seasons, multiple long playoff runs. For the longest time the only player that scored more points than Malone was Kareem. There’s your mileage. Y’all can talk about lebron without shitting on other legends. This is just a bad take, Malone was athletic and had a waaaaaay better post arsenal. Lebron would be warriors iggy if he lost his athleticism
@edredding
@edredding 11 ай бұрын
He ain’t have to move lol.. he stayed at the top the key and pick and popped. He wasn’t running an offense he wasn’t playing deep into the playoffs for majority of his career and he also had a Pg
@Blackbolt-411
@Blackbolt-411 11 ай бұрын
Malone led his team to 64 wins was all first team offense and defense
@xxtooshiestyxx8756
@xxtooshiestyxx8756 11 ай бұрын
Bron led his to 66... MVP 1st tm all def and all nba 🙄
@orkidokomlan8544
@orkidokomlan8544 11 ай бұрын
@@xxtooshiestyxx8756THANK YOU…. I was about to say the same.
@prolific1518
@prolific1518 11 ай бұрын
​@@xxtooshiestyxx8756got his DPOY stolen
@willjohnwick6911
@willjohnwick6911 11 ай бұрын
@@xxtooshiestyxx8756but didn’t make the finals that year Malone made the finals lebron got spanked by the magic 😅
@atraina6921
@atraina6921 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@willjohnwick6911Lol, didn’t Malone lose? I thought it was about winning? Cause all people like you do especially in the Jordan debate is bring up 4-6 and make it seem like LeBron should get punished as a 22 year old for being able to carry a team to a finals and more trash teams after that. Make up your mind 😅😅😅😅 . Also FYI in that series where he got “spanked” LeBron averaged 38, 8, and 8 and I don’t even think I need to pull Malones stat to know he didn’t do that in the final.
@lightsout6552
@lightsout6552 11 ай бұрын
And it was harder town core in the Jordan Malone era. The hand check and physicality was a huge difference maker. Much harder town core back then taking a pounding every time you hit the paint
@captencourtney
@captencourtney 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Chris
@benharris2496
@benharris2496 11 ай бұрын
Nick the biggest LeBron Stan out there
@adayinthelifeofJB
@adayinthelifeofJB 11 ай бұрын
Nick: "I'm gonna do a blind reveal..." Brou & Wildes: moans and groans... LMAO
@lopaka526
@lopaka526 11 ай бұрын
Like, oh, I wonder if Nick found numbers that favor LeBron…
@sebastianellis3678
@sebastianellis3678 11 ай бұрын
my guy said "feelings emotions thoughts" lmao
@jonathanharvey7940
@jonathanharvey7940 11 ай бұрын
We don’t f with km13
@theprofessorjg
@theprofessorjg 11 ай бұрын
The Lakers the last 2 seasons, their pace per game was 102 whereas the Jazz in those 2 years Wright is showing had a pace of 89 so a difference of 13 possessions. That means with Malone's stats as is he'd average more point rebounds and assists per game than LeBron. Wright just throws numbers out sans context.
@quentondaniels8536
@quentondaniels8536 11 ай бұрын
-🎯🎯🎯🎯
@DeadSezSo
@DeadSezSo 11 ай бұрын
While youre somewhat correct, Karl Malone in no universe would get more assists than lebron. While it's true pace was slower back then, that also meant players needed less cardio conditioning and got hurt much less often. So you can make several different arguments for or against eras which is why it's no use trying to compare stats.
@TheBossyMango
@TheBossyMango 11 ай бұрын
@@DeadSezSoAlso help defense/ zone was considered illegal Defence which resulted in a lot of dudes standing around while one player goes iso on the opposite wing. Imagine what LeBron could’ve done with that “illegal defense” rule, people aren’t ready for that convo tho lol
@theprofessorjg
@theprofessorjg 11 ай бұрын
@@DeadSezSo not necessarily when it comes to cardio. Players then played more games, more minutes and shorter rotations. 8-10 players with the roster at 12 max and 3 on reserve. Now, players play less minutes, less games, and longer rotations...9-12 players. 15 players with 18 max. Yes, I understand the pace is more but a similary paced late 70's to mid '80's had guys again playing more minutes per player per game. While I'll concede Malone would average less assists however it wouldn't be by much.
@mattwhitely1067
@mattwhitely1067 11 ай бұрын
They took around the same amount of shots those
@bryanfahey3144
@bryanfahey3144 11 ай бұрын
Why don’t they do a revised comparison based on the average point increase? For instance - if teams score 20% more points per game in this era - add 20% to that stat.
@JoshuaWSiegel
@JoshuaWSiegel 11 ай бұрын
I always say, go back 20 years, and 25 points in the 90s-early 2000s is equal to about 30 points today.
@browneyez8600
@browneyez8600 11 ай бұрын
#7 rebounder is a surprise greater player in that area than I thought
@galarook6151
@galarook6151 11 ай бұрын
"I belong here, on the bench" 😂
@martindominguez1518
@martindominguez1518 11 ай бұрын
“To the guy that impregnated a teenager” left that out Broussard.
@mr.mr.4772
@mr.mr.4772 11 ай бұрын
Two teenagers.
@jacklumsden7444
@jacklumsden7444 11 ай бұрын
In fairness. So did lebron. Granted he was also a teen.
@brotherLee340
@brotherLee340 11 ай бұрын
Why would he put that in?? He is talking about what he did on the court. Malone was a beast
@hooligan5381
@hooligan5381 11 ай бұрын
thats 30 years ago fool you wasn't even born how you speaking on some you know nun about
@eduardoarancibia169
@eduardoarancibia169 11 ай бұрын
​@@mr.mr.4772two!?
@Aivern
@Aivern 11 ай бұрын
It's true, even the FTs match up
@c2cbullies857
@c2cbullies857 11 ай бұрын
Chris at 15:26 😂😂
@cashflodigitalsportsnetwork
@cashflodigitalsportsnetwork 11 ай бұрын
9:22 Karl Malone shot 27.4% from 3pt line for his career and he took 310 for his career.
@cashflodigitalsportsnetwork
@cashflodigitalsportsnetwork 11 ай бұрын
@@1newme425 naw it’s correct based off basketball reference…
@forkobe7544
@forkobe7544 11 ай бұрын
He also shot 100% at 13 year old girls in his career
@erikpuka2627
@erikpuka2627 11 ай бұрын
Karl Malone was a much better defender. Probably the best legit post defender I ever seen. Most defenders that defend the paint are shotblockers. Like Gobert. Malone could legit guard centers and power forwards. Could even switch to smaller players. 6th all tome in defensive win shares
@ubong5172
@ubong5172 11 ай бұрын
Couldn’t guard his lust fit minors.
@lisarollins4880
@lisarollins4880 11 ай бұрын
@@ubong5172 🤣
@TheDraso1987
@TheDraso1987 11 ай бұрын
Chris was outraged 😂😅
@markwellcapuyan6560
@markwellcapuyan6560 10 ай бұрын
I think you forgot to mention stockton contribution who lead on assist points overall nba. He contributed a lot as well on team offense and defense
@mackniffy
@mackniffy 11 ай бұрын
Nick is completely discounting stat inflation of this era
@Versatile300
@Versatile300 11 ай бұрын
Brou doesn't have coffee in that cup🍇😂😂😂😂
@nocodekevin
@nocodekevin 11 ай бұрын
There has to be some way to adjust for inflation for scoring.
@samuelwilliams3044
@samuelwilliams3044 11 ай бұрын
That’s why I don’t understand why he don’t want to play in the post. Karl Malone was an absolute unit. And he was a great athlete in his prime
@Yeshuaspupil
@Yeshuaspupil 11 ай бұрын
He could extend his career even more if he did that on top of the HGH.
@cyberbron2077
@cyberbron2077 11 ай бұрын
These two know nothing about basketball^. You're asking a 38 year old man entering his 21st season that he should be banging in the post more often. Ya'll do the math everyone.
@TheLeaderOfAunthenticity
@TheLeaderOfAunthenticity 11 ай бұрын
How many rings did playin in the post get Malone 😂
@TyroneNBAFan
@TyroneNBAFan 11 ай бұрын
Tell me you don't know about the modern NBA without telling me 😂
@danielphagans2066
@danielphagans2066 11 ай бұрын
​@user-gh2df6fk3w You mean the LeBron 1st year in Miami and Dwade remember the league started testing and how the boats buddies all cut and lose weight even Melo back then. Yes LeBron spends millions on his body BUT BACK THEN ALL OF THEM WAS ON THE HGH
@jayomar6054
@jayomar6054 11 ай бұрын
Lol comparing LBJ to anybody but the goat sounds disrespectful to me.
@magicjohnson5733
@magicjohnson5733 11 ай бұрын
To Malone, not to lebron
@demodiums7216
@demodiums7216 11 ай бұрын
​@@magicjohnson5733are you blind?
@rodbiagtan4250
@rodbiagtan4250 11 ай бұрын
You tell him, Mr. Broussard!
@Bw.e
@Bw.e 11 ай бұрын
I love when brou and nick really get into it
@edwinp.martinez151
@edwinp.martinez151 11 ай бұрын
Here Nick go being outta pocket 🤣🤣
@flowaroundtherock
@flowaroundtherock 11 ай бұрын
The fact that Broussard tried to use a 40-point LeBron game as an argument against LeBron shows the insane standard that we hold LeBron to.
@jstino779
@jstino779 11 ай бұрын
He’s making the argument for empty stats vs effective stats.
@flowaroundtherock
@flowaroundtherock 11 ай бұрын
@@jstino779 I guess 40/10/9 on 60% shooting with only 1 turnover is empty stats 🤷‍♂️
@andrewnguyen9085
@andrewnguyen9085 11 ай бұрын
@@jstino779 He has no argument. The lakers got further in the playoffs than the Jazz this season than the Jazz did in Karl Malone's 1999 season. Makes more sense for Karl's to be empty than Lebron's if your point is about stats correlating to winning lol.
@Bama2ohio
@Bama2ohio 11 ай бұрын
@@flowaroundtherockis that the game where he scored like 2 points in the second half? Just curious
@escobarrizzay3599
@escobarrizzay3599 11 ай бұрын
​@@jstino779use that same standard against everyone team who ends up losing the game not just LeBron. You won't because you just don't like LeBron. Your brain can't move past that 😂
@henrikntrl
@henrikntrl 11 ай бұрын
LOL Nick, you are so funny yet correct! Love from LA
@LonerP
@LonerP 11 ай бұрын
Wildes with the Bru leaving fake out 😂😂😂
@maxwellgrant124
@maxwellgrant124 11 ай бұрын
For all those wondering... On the 2 season nick showed, Lebron scored 30.3 & 28.9 / 117.2 & 112.1 (25.8% of team points) Karl Malone scored 25.5 & 27.4 / 103.1 & 96.5 (26.5% of team points) Lebron absolutely did score at a very comprable rate & efficiency
@owtkvst
@owtkvst 11 ай бұрын
Finally somebody said it
@sjwilliams5883
@sjwilliams5883 11 ай бұрын
Bron also better passer an defender bc he can guard 1-4 an sometimes the 5 depending on who the 5 is
@Channelnamehere100
@Channelnamehere100 11 ай бұрын
Bruh, the thing isn’t that lebron is miles ahead, it’s that those 2 seasons are MVP seasons for Malone and the 2 seasons from lebron are age 37 and 38 that’s why the seasons are comparable with the averages still being ahead in lebrons favour because of the assists
@ericthurman1050
@ericthurman1050 11 ай бұрын
Again context. the pace ans scorin, rules and philosophies are drastically different. stats mean nothing without context. go back and watch players from the 70s and 60s shoot from steph curry range. it still counted for 2pts. how many people would have better stats if these rules and pace of play were allowed in their eras?
@4yze
@4yze 11 ай бұрын
At the risk of sounding like a Bron hater, none of this is the point. It isn’t about the player. It’s about the game. It’s like saying Jordan averaged 45/9/8 against the Monstars but only 30/5/6 against the NBA. In the offense that the Jazz ran, with the skill set that the game told Malone he SHOULD and MUST have, in the overall backdrop of the game that Malone played in, The Mailman did X. In a completely different backdrop, with a mandatory skill set that had already changed drastically even by the time LeBron was drafted and more so since (which to his credit he has largely adapted to), Bron did X. You cannot compare the two X’s.
@Prince-cz5qy
@Prince-cz5qy 11 ай бұрын
Imagine if Karl Malone teamed up with micheal Jordan & Hakeem Olajuwon like Lebron did with wade & bosh in his prime.. ridiculous argument
@isaiahsmith8523
@isaiahsmith8523 11 ай бұрын
Are you saying Wade is equal to MJ? Are you saying Hakeem and Bosh are the same?
@georgeparker8198
@georgeparker8198 11 ай бұрын
DON'T SCARE US LIKE THAT WILDES!!! 😂😂😂😂
@filltheglass2618
@filltheglass2618 11 ай бұрын
I think Wildes should have his own program interviewing athletes. Asking question on performance, routine and mental fortitude
@omartahboub2900
@omartahboub2900 11 ай бұрын
Back in Karl Malone's time the was much physical, teams were more physical and scoring was much more difficult. And as Cherry on top, the probability of getting injured was much higher impacting the players longevity in the League.
@Catinthehat-kq3pk
@Catinthehat-kq3pk 11 ай бұрын
The true meaning of Power Forward he doesn't have Malone's Heart.
@poly_g6068
@poly_g6068 11 ай бұрын
The probability of injury is statistically higher today.
@jackass541
@jackass541 10 ай бұрын
yea that last part is just a straight up a lie
@RelentlessMocha
@RelentlessMocha 11 ай бұрын
It's already stated its easier to score in this era so the LBJ numbers are inflated. LeBron is more athletic but Malone would bully LBJ on the block.
@lennybeason1110
@lennybeason1110 11 ай бұрын
Definitely would bully LeBron in the paint!
@noodlezworld3627
@noodlezworld3627 11 ай бұрын
He def cam in 03 when the league was still rough am i not mistaken 😂 yall b pushing it
@willjohnwick6911
@willjohnwick6911 11 ай бұрын
@@noodlezworld3627dude we’re talking about now not in 2003 🤡 reading is fundamental
@lennybeason1110
@lennybeason1110 11 ай бұрын
@@noodlezworld3627 Nick and Rich Paul are comparing prime Malone to year 19&20 LeBron. We know that it’s been easier to score the last 5 years of this era than any era before it! Prime Malone is definitely better than these last 2 years of LeBron!
@94mikless
@94mikless 11 ай бұрын
Nick comparing stats from 25 years ago is crazy
@raph30bawe
@raph30bawe 11 ай бұрын
26 pts per game in the 90's its like 32 now
@alvaroalfaro9478
@alvaroalfaro9478 11 ай бұрын
Karl Malone is athletic. End to end he was faster than some guards. Lebron would be more like later years Magic Kohnson if he lost athletic prowess
@ehhyomikey7738
@ehhyomikey7738 11 ай бұрын
Karl Malone 😮google him before you compare him to anyone else 🤔🤔
@clootscalhoun9481
@clootscalhoun9481 11 ай бұрын
They’re load managing Broussard hahahaha
@jimmyromeinaday8428
@jimmyromeinaday8428 11 ай бұрын
This was a good debate 😮
@byron2099
@byron2099 11 ай бұрын
Everyone let’s Brou get his point across once nick speaks brou cuts him off a lot sometimes …. Still the best show ever
@canarynino84
@canarynino84 11 ай бұрын
Lebron compared to Karl Malone is like comparing Reggie Miller to Stephen Curry.... Accept this generation of players does everything better.
@xerospades
@xerospades 11 ай бұрын
They surely don't defend or stay healthy in comparison to back then.
@bayareayackem100
@bayareayackem100 11 ай бұрын
Not defense.
@langanhlakanipho
@langanhlakanipho 11 ай бұрын
You say this cause you watching them now... watch 90's ball, the game was different (doesn't necessarily mean better) also unfair comparing a top 20 guy to a top 2 guy
@canarynino84
@canarynino84 11 ай бұрын
@@langanhlakanipho I thought the same thing how can they compare lebron to Karl?? There's really no comparison.
@diquananderson2876
@diquananderson2876 11 ай бұрын
Why do we even keep track of the numbers 😂😂😂
@JGoGetta20
@JGoGetta20 10 ай бұрын
Wildes said Load management 🤣🤣🤣
@abluminberg
@abluminberg 11 ай бұрын
FYI, in 97 and 98 he went through Shaq both times
@MC-ej4to
@MC-ej4to 11 ай бұрын
Yeah but what they don't understand is that MVP Karl Malone was doing those numbers when the league was also averaging like 91 points a night lol. This is very disrespectful of Karl Malone a very great player. We don't have to disrespect one player to prop up another.
@guitarlearningtoplay
@guitarlearningtoplay 11 ай бұрын
Better stats would be % of the teams overall stats in each category and their plus minus when in the game vs. out of the game. Then you can compare stats
@tayvalid
@tayvalid 11 ай бұрын
nick be glazing hard
@robertwilson9528
@robertwilson9528 11 ай бұрын
With no shame
@natecrumbs
@natecrumbs 11 ай бұрын
Wildes is the best thing about this show.
@timothymoore2966
@timothymoore2966 11 ай бұрын
Real talk I didn’t like him at first. I compared him to skip because they both like to troll. Wildes actually knows wtf he is doing
@pmodi1104
@pmodi1104 11 ай бұрын
Broussard is correct, context is everything, possessions, pace, and style of play impact stats
@kingp2245
@kingp2245 11 ай бұрын
The disrespect of Karl Malone is beyond ridiculous
@JD-xr3gi
@JD-xr3gi 11 ай бұрын
LeBron in the past few years clearly only care about offensive stats. it's the combination of he knows 99% of the fans only care about offensive stats, AND father time that he knows he can no longer use energy on both ends of the floor like he used to.
@Mason_23
@Mason_23 11 ай бұрын
Because he’s 38 he can’t give you both end of the floor.
@1vaultdweller
@1vaultdweller 10 ай бұрын
2020 Lebron was a beast on the defensive end tough.
@deniyii
@deniyii 11 ай бұрын
Watching Broussard destroy nick (pause) is half of what makes this show awesome. That Malone segment was a blowout sweep.
@kylewilloughby1983
@kylewilloughby1983 11 ай бұрын
Cal Ripkin did in fact play baseball
@iggyN
@iggyN 11 ай бұрын
8:20-8:35 LMAO
@lovey019
@lovey019 11 ай бұрын
These segments where Nick sets up numbers and makes huge assertions show where Nick is a absolute prisoner of analytics and his love for Bron.
@crosswiz6
@crosswiz6 11 ай бұрын
People like Nick are a CANCER to sports media
@juliolara274
@juliolara274 11 ай бұрын
This take really showed Nick’s Lebron bias, which hurts his objectivity and clouds his other arguments about Lebron (which he has great takes on Lebron) … The comparison of Lebron’s last two years and Malone’s MVP years based on numbers is what we call playing the numbers and shows that you can find numbers to argue anything you want… if there is no context… anything out of context is a pretext…
@erikpuka2627
@erikpuka2627 11 ай бұрын
He doesn't have great takes on Lebron. Thats false.
@loser277
@loser277 11 ай бұрын
Is it just me or does Nick look like he's auditioning to be a low level mobster in the next Batman movie with that suit?
@MrBloom-mh4li
@MrBloom-mh4li 11 ай бұрын
I believe that Lebron in possibly his last year or two should really look at or study the game of ... wait for it ... Adrian Dantley. Adrian Dantley was a mid-range and score around the bucket extraordinaire. Adrian Dantley was a small forward at 6'-5" and around 210 pounds and he played and just about lived in and played in the paint during much of his career and that open mid range shot was at times deadly for teams would leave him open occasionally outside the paint. Lebron is bigger and has a natural knack for passing which would help too in extending his health and play.
@cashflodigitalsportsnetwork
@cashflodigitalsportsnetwork 11 ай бұрын
5:52 Karl Malone was also playing 80-82 games back then even when he was old, until the year he got hurt with the Lakers.
@darronarnold3526
@darronarnold3526 11 ай бұрын
“You can’t just throw up a bunch of numbers and say he’s just as good” Literally the sports analysts entire job
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 6 ай бұрын
No, that's what the official keeping statistics does.
@25mL
@25mL 11 ай бұрын
“I know you can’t just do that!” Yet, Nick does that. 😂☠️
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