SUPERCHARGED 496 BBC-PROCHARGER VS 6/71

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Richard Holdener

Richard Holdener

4 жыл бұрын

FULL BOOST-FULL RESULTS!! After running Nitrous on our 496 BBC, it was finally time for Boost! Check the results of the 496 BBC Stroker, run first with a 6/71 from the Blower Shop & Speedmaster, then a Procharger F1A-94 supercharger (with EFI). Who wants over 1,000 HP? Here's How!

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@Jab-lj3wc
@Jab-lj3wc 4 жыл бұрын
i love the old school look of the roots.
@jklivin2007
@jklivin2007 3 жыл бұрын
.....gotta love the look & whine of an old skool huffer, especially in a boat!!! 😉
@twinturbo496
@twinturbo496 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Thank you for posting so many good engine summary videos.
@AnselGaddy
@AnselGaddy 4 жыл бұрын
The best channel on KZfaq!!! Keep it coming!
@maxlink3914
@maxlink3914 4 жыл бұрын
Fun to see the uphill power curve that never stops.
@wadebordelon7286
@wadebordelon7286 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt that motor was pulling hard
@georgem.6136
@georgem.6136 4 жыл бұрын
That thing is a beast, it loved the pro charger!!!
@EricErnst
@EricErnst 4 жыл бұрын
Wealth of knowledge again. Thanks for the great content!
@kwik440
@kwik440 4 жыл бұрын
Another AWESOME VIDEO !!! THANK YOU!! the only thing I would have liked different , see the 6-71 run overlaid with the Procharger.. thank you!
@bdugle1
@bdugle1 4 жыл бұрын
You keep bringing us amazing info! The 6-71 results were very interesting, that could be a great street combo. Going back to part 1, that “little” 496 NA torque curve is a thing of beauty! I want one for my 71 C-10!
@Bartman747
@Bartman747 Жыл бұрын
This four ninety six in my fleetwood right now stock 325 hp 38 rpm. It's got 488 Dana Not sure about the converter. I've got everything in this rv to make one hell of a race car. Need a 4 link
@johnsmith-qz4bv
@johnsmith-qz4bv 4 жыл бұрын
awesome power numbers ....great video..
@mannyr.2756
@mannyr.2756 4 жыл бұрын
Always happy to see anything you you put out Richard of course I've had a few drinks so it's all good bring it on keep it coming!.... P.S. thank you...
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
drinks help
@fascistpedant758
@fascistpedant758 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I told an old girl at the bar last week. Except her name wasn't Richard.
@rayc5916
@rayc5916 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is so much better than the comp cam videos. Glad you started your own channel. Subbed!!
@JohnMartin-eb7jn
@JohnMartin-eb7jn 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Richard. Do you have a video of the actual 496 build and what parts you used? I looked through your video collection and did not see one.
@alexakin9845
@alexakin9845 4 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the content you put out, this is very average guy combination that work and can be attained for the do it your self guys! The variety of combinations is great and gives good information to what someone could expect from a engine combo there looking into!!!
@Bartman747
@Bartman747 Жыл бұрын
Good thing about those things as you can run. Pump Gas.maby 60/40 100L lead av
@stephenmitchell3569
@stephenmitchell3569 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for wisdom!!!
@tahoejones6762
@tahoejones6762 4 жыл бұрын
love your vids dude to awesome !!
@stevekarr4613
@stevekarr4613 4 жыл бұрын
"...1050 Dominator, which is awesome". I love it.
@tomcampbell4414
@tomcampbell4414 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great info!
@chrisgeorge6321
@chrisgeorge6321 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍
@norbertestrada8182
@norbertestrada8182 4 жыл бұрын
Now to combine the nitrous with the procharger. Thanks for the testing. I'm considering a similar combo for my 96 camaro.
@MississippiDan1
@MississippiDan1 4 жыл бұрын
Liked, shared and subscribed to the best, no nonsense KZfaq channel around! Another awesome test series!!
@brentkirkland85
@brentkirkland85 4 жыл бұрын
Keep them coming!
@rossswanson1082
@rossswanson1082 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos bud!! Not trying to brown nose but u answered more questions then I ever expected!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@craxis3
@craxis3 4 жыл бұрын
Love this channel
@Blood04
@Blood04 4 жыл бұрын
Turbos next Richard, TURBOS!!
@BotelloPerformance
@BotelloPerformance 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the 496 with twin 80s. love the videos keep them coming. what kind of timing u have on procharger setup
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
28-29 degrees
@Hitman-ds1ei
@Hitman-ds1ei 4 жыл бұрын
Would like to see you install piston squirters like one avail from BTR and see if affects the timing you can run from decreased piston t temps
@keysautorepair6038
@keysautorepair6038 4 жыл бұрын
Do some twin eBay gt45
@javierrivera2664
@javierrivera2664 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Holdener What was Compression ratio on the n/a 496? I ask because I like what you build and I am running a 496 running 11.4 all motor 71 el camino 4100# all metal car ,the CR is 10:5:1 ,all forged internals AFR 305 cnc heads , can I build a twin turbo with this parts and CR? keep posting excellent explaint ,much much better than most Universitys Profesors ,Hope to hear from you soon .Saludos fom Hot Puerto Rico,Be safe blessings to tonand Family members.
@javierrivera2664
@javierrivera2664 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Holdener JAVIERCJR@HOTMAIL.COM ,if I need to buy parts and you sell them please email me with the parts list thanks
@captainboose8788
@captainboose8788 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, reminds me of Monster Trucks, running a 540CI BBC with an 8:71, 10% underdriven and cranking out 1450+
@donellmuniz590
@donellmuniz590 4 жыл бұрын
On methanol.
@tomcrosby6332
@tomcrosby6332 3 жыл бұрын
good video . Thanks
@bobdobalina8910
@bobdobalina8910 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Video - tons of information Talking BB, I am very curious as to GMs Original L88 427 - their ZL1 & their Reproduction Updated ZL1 Crate (19166392) for comparisons. Fords 427, 428 & 429, then Mopars 426 & 440, all stock of course. Thanks & keep up the great work
@curvs4me
@curvs4me 3 жыл бұрын
They are heavy but so sweet! Wider bore and canted valves super unshrouded torque beast.
@cc23001
@cc23001 4 жыл бұрын
Gosh awesome numbers right there
@nova467spanker
@nova467spanker 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Holdener Good videos man. I was thinking, you should do a test between a 6-71 or a 8-71 with carburetors vs the same blower with the EFI set up like Cletus McFarland has in his 632 in his 3rd Gen Camaro. It would be interesting to see the differences how the curves are and if the EFI is worth buying. Thanks , Matt
@nicolasroth101
@nicolasroth101 3 ай бұрын
That was awesome I’m trying to run a pro charger on my 496 blue print
@juliovaldez5468
@juliovaldez5468 3 жыл бұрын
Richard, your videos are great. Can you do a video on the 8.1l that will consider torque increases for hauling and stay smog legal for us truck guys?
@riellypethybridge1293
@riellypethybridge1293 Жыл бұрын
Id love a 632 deal , im building one now all n/a untill a shot of 400 of giggle gas , pump fuel , your a good guy and id love too see a bigg cube bbc
@lukedrakogiannskis8386
@lukedrakogiannskis8386 Жыл бұрын
Your amazing mate
@stlchucko
@stlchucko 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely would have like to seen a 8-71 on it. Roots blown big blocks make so much brutal torque, it’ll break the 4L60e in the car next to it.
@BustedWalletGarage
@BustedWalletGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Would you do a series on the history of speed part manufactures ? Some of those guys were wilder than the motors they built i.e. Don Hampton Superchargers , the Lunati family , etc.
@donellmuniz590
@donellmuniz590 4 жыл бұрын
Gary Bower (not Dyer----different guys) had the best advertising in the early 70s: buxom bombshell Carol Lang in a Bowers Blowers crop top! Underboob city! My 12 year old reptilian brain was so impressed, I remember her name 45 years later!
@georgegrimm4952
@georgegrimm4952 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! How about a video pertaining to a 75 hp nitrous shot to help spool a big turbo. Can this be done in a off idle acceleration test on a dyno?
@curvs4me
@curvs4me 3 жыл бұрын
It's really so cool to see the difference between positive displacement and a centrifugal supercharger! The huffer was making 725ft-lbs at just over 3500rpm when that pull started. The centrifugal is still below 700ft-lbs starting and punches through 725ft-lbs at 4150rpm. Of course the centrifugal cruises past the Huffer peak torque 250rpm later. Procharger is rising torque at 45 degrees well past. Would love to see an 8-71 vs F1-A! You don't have the supercharger water to air intercooler plate I don't believe? TBS has an advanced teflon stripped 3 lobe high helix rotor design in a hard anodized case. Supposed to be 60% better efficiency and capable of higher differentials without causing the atmosphere to spontaneously combust lol. That, combined with the TBS 5050 intercooler might just make the old school as capable as the new school. Which is amazing and then some for anyone going with a rod or something coming up through the hood.
@SS454JF
@SS454JF 6 ай бұрын
It would of been cool if you included prices $$$. Your dino combos are great 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@londonman8688
@londonman8688 3 жыл бұрын
can the pro charger intercooler pipes go downwards to fit into smaller engine bays ?
@Luis-fk6es
@Luis-fk6es 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have any hemi stuff at high RPM?
@dj280zx
@dj280zx 4 жыл бұрын
you give great information could you up the anti by doing a 14-71
@jyminewtron1416
@jyminewtron1416 4 жыл бұрын
Love the vids. Just a request. If you gst your hands on a W112 off of a Mercedes and can make a manifold adapter for an LS that would be awesome lol
@Phil-rs5wl
@Phil-rs5wl 4 жыл бұрын
How will the stock 454 bottom end hold up under boost?
@Bartman747
@Bartman747 Жыл бұрын
I got a 496 in my Fleetwood. RV when I'm done with the RV. I'm gonna put an 871 on it. They're in my 68 Camaro.
@cloudrhezii
@cloudrhezii 3 жыл бұрын
Could you point out rotating assembly and heads & cam for the pro charger set up ?
@MrOgre1110
@MrOgre1110 4 жыл бұрын
Only thing missing? The turbo supercharged nitrous equipped version lol turbo blow through carb 8/71 port wet nos system setup lol
@jblack5323
@jblack5323 4 жыл бұрын
He’s probably editing the video for that as we speak 😂
@Knightmare-gz9ls
@Knightmare-gz9ls 4 жыл бұрын
Guy at the strip " what power adder you running?" "...........yes?" 🤣
@donellmuniz590
@donellmuniz590 4 жыл бұрын
I love an old school Rootes blower on top, you can't beat the looks. But would an 8-71 make more boost or power than the 6-71, on a 496?
@Darkhalfcustoms
@Darkhalfcustoms 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, @RichardHoldener, how about a test on one of the junk yard Gen 6 big blocks motors to see best torque and HP NA on 89 octane.
@bigredracer7848
@bigredracer7848 4 жыл бұрын
243rd 👍's up guys thanks for taking the time for us all
@BlueCollarBen
@BlueCollarBen 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Holdner Do you have any plans to do a twin charging video? I would love to see what a big cube V8 would do with a twin screw supercharger and a big turbo
@jackdaniels2657
@jackdaniels2657 4 жыл бұрын
Its like u read my comment about doing blowers great vid
@whtchevelle
@whtchevelle 4 жыл бұрын
My current 10.5 to 1 496 has a long rod 6.535 so my piston skirt is short. Would that be a problem when adding a pro charger?
@johnwoodworth248
@johnwoodworth248 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a bbc dude myself I have a 6-71 ( refit GMC ) , ive got a Weiand 8-71 and a SSI 14-71 for the alcohol combo . All bbc great combos
@wadebordelon7286
@wadebordelon7286 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm a bbc also but I picked up a 6-71 sbc on a good deal come to find out it's a large journal my boost is coming in at 4200 @5_6 psi, it's my first blower motor , now I'm kinda glad I spun #8 bearing on the big block,I might just put a blower on it now that it's apart any suggestions just short of alcohol?
@allenjames7359
@allenjames7359 Жыл бұрын
Does your go to cam in a 496 bbc have a choppy idle sound
@menoaz
@menoaz 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else have this speedmaster kit and the idler bracket not line up to top pulley? I'm gonna have to really long spacers on. Don't want to. I've been told having the pulley flipped that way is bad for snout bearing.
@tonkatoytruck
@tonkatoytruck 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, you can get a crate motor bbc with a warranty that makes 1000+ hp on pump gas normally aspirated, if that is your ultimate goal. If you are going C screw, then you should run methanol for cooling and larger tuning window. ProChargers seem to be the trend, directly driven from the crank. Take your 1000hp NA motor to 2000+ if you decide that you want to take to the next level. A good CGI treatment on an iron block works wonders.
@datasailor8132
@datasailor8132 4 жыл бұрын
What would that BBC do with compressed air supercharging?
@Wormser_mcfrazzleweiner
@Wormser_mcfrazzleweiner 3 жыл бұрын
How many hours in the dyno room do you have in this 3 way test?
@sschevyboi454
@sschevyboi454 4 жыл бұрын
What size injectors and throttle body you use ?
@Crysmatic
@Crysmatic 4 жыл бұрын
do you have any Whipple 245 superchargers laying around?
@jamest.5001
@jamest.5001 4 жыл бұрын
I have a stock 7.4 with high rise and carb, and headers, I'd like to add boost someday, 5-10 psi, it's already just shy of 500ftlbs TQ, a couple turbos, and it would run like a diesel,
@RealSteelStreet
@RealSteelStreet 2 жыл бұрын
ProCharger FTW🤘🏼
@Charlie_Prinz
@Charlie_Prinz 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome content. Thank you for your effort. Two thumbs up!!!! Are IATs relevant with that type set-up?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
not really at these boost levels-carbs cool the 6-71 and ATW on the Procharger at only 11 psi
@shitbox7413
@shitbox7413 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll always be a nitrous guy at heart, but pro chargers are the ultimate street/strip power adder in my opinion.
@shitbox7413
@shitbox7413 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Thomas, I’ve ridden in some cars with pro chargers, they didn’t need nitrous. 👍🏻
@LunarOutlawsGarage
@LunarOutlawsGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Two videos in two days heck yea
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
Don't make me put up a 3rd!
@zacha1408
@zacha1408 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a third.
@tomcampbell4414
@tomcampbell4414 4 жыл бұрын
Dare you bruh
@LunarOutlawsGarage
@LunarOutlawsGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Campbell I double dog dare him 😂🤘
@ThePeoplesFabricator
@ThePeoplesFabricator 3 жыл бұрын
Super informative! Thanks for sharing. What compression pistons did you use?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
10:1 or so
@javierrivera2664
@javierrivera2664 4 жыл бұрын
What was the N/A CR of this 496 ?
@owinkorf9747
@owinkorf9747 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering...im gonna get a 2002 gmc 2500hd 8.1l anf that comes with a 5 spd allison 1000 trans. I cant seem to find anything on building that trans for more hp and tq thats not for the duramax version. Considering its the same trans as the duramax, will a build kit work fine in the trns with an 8.1l?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
NO IDEA ON TRANSMISSION
@mongoosebootrrider
@mongoosebootrrider 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the 8.1L
@keysautorepair6038
@keysautorepair6038 4 жыл бұрын
Is that a scat lightweight 4.25 cast crankshaft.
@bigredracer7848
@bigredracer7848 4 жыл бұрын
How about the pro charger feeding the blower and the blower feeding the motor add in a shot of nos on top of it please
@johnbehneman1546
@johnbehneman1546 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO RICHARD!!!! I NEED TO BUILD A 496 ALSO !!!!!! THANKS FOR SHARING!!!!
@glenngamboa9224
@glenngamboa9224 3 жыл бұрын
How about Turbo blow thru carb single plane air intake?
@backyardbuilttrucks1
@backyardbuilttrucks1 4 жыл бұрын
What was the starting static compression ratio. I am at 9.6:1 would love to do a roots blower .
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
over 10
@Steve-cc8zg
@Steve-cc8zg 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Richard, I'm curious if you have any videos where you are comparing the two types of superchargers where the boost is equal. I'm just curious what the roots blower would do at the same 11 psi the centrifugal was at, approx. Thanks.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
TAKE A LOOK AT THE MOD MOTOR VIDEO WHERE I RAN ALL 4 FORMS OF FORCED INDUCTION AT THE SAME BOOST
@speedycpu
@speedycpu 4 жыл бұрын
F1A-94 or F1X will probably be my next supercharger. D1sc spinning close to max, need more power! :) Richard, ever do any P1sc vs D1sc vs D1X, also testing various pulley sizes getting up close to max rpm? I think if I spin it more it will just dump heat.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 жыл бұрын
I have done some comparison with D1SC and F1A-94
@daveg5847
@daveg5847 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I find a 454 lol there not easy to find for me
@billshannon8429
@billshannon8429 3 жыл бұрын
Can you tell us what cam you ran with this combo. Rocker arm size and length of push rods
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was the comp br300-14
@rayw8177
@rayw8177 3 жыл бұрын
i just found your channel as want a truck and not able to buy new (they costing way too much now days), so looks like have to find older truck that may need rebuild. between the 2, blower and procharger, which would be more fuel efficient? will be looking at more of your vid's for information, been long time out of building motors, like 25 years if not more. maybe can say what BBC is best for building, parts avail, dependability? thanks.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
procharger would be more fuel efficient but a blown big block wont be great with either
@coronetfabz28
@coronetfabz28 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Richard I would like to see what kind of horsepower a 468 with a set of 990 rectangle port iron heads and a turbo would make ,this one would be for the guys that have some of these basic BBC parts laying around,or low budget!!!
@Bartman747
@Bartman747 Жыл бұрын
My sixty eight camaro convertible came with a Forty over three ninety six rectangular port heads steel crack ten and a half one. Put 2 125 shot nitrous plates in the day .2 bottles. Wired it all together. 410 12 bolt stock rs. Man that thing never won a race blew the tires off every time. All over the dam place. But most fun
@jamesunderdal8976
@jamesunderdal8976 2 жыл бұрын
Blower for me nothing looks or sounds as badass and a blower on a big block
@lyzadavis543
@lyzadavis543 4 жыл бұрын
Please build a efi 460 and try the different boosters
@Belktronix
@Belktronix 3 жыл бұрын
I got lost in the details, but is the current 8.1L basically the same bottom end as the 454 with a stroker kit? or are they vastly different? Thanks for the vids, I learn a ton, but still looking for 5.3L easy...
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
different engine family
@grumpy1962R
@grumpy1962R 18 күн бұрын
Am I restricted by my camshaft selection? If I have a more aggressive cam, would it keep me from switching from a single plane manifold and incorporating a blower
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 17 күн бұрын
what is your cam
@xozindustries7451
@xozindustries7451 4 жыл бұрын
I'm building a 540 with a b&m 420 mega blower with dominator EFI angry drive by wire throttle bodies and LS coils, I wish you were on the east coast to make some pulls with it!
@xozindustries7451
@xozindustries7451 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Thomas true, and I have access to a few good ones, but having someone time a efi blown big block that has experience doing it is hard to find. Paying someone to figure it out on my $20k motor and hope they don’t lean it out and hurt something is daunting
@horaciocotignola3323
@horaciocotignola3323 3 жыл бұрын
Hi ! I have 496 put in my dragster and take out the injection and know i want to put in on 671 inside but my problem is i dont have idea where buy intake for supercharger 671 you have idea place to find IT?
@horaciocotignola3323
@horaciocotignola3323 3 жыл бұрын
Becouse 496 engine Is not easy for performance parts
@bradpittman5075
@bradpittman5075 4 жыл бұрын
I am not a Chevy guy but the big block Chevy is a really ideal engine. It’s good.
@jimmy_olds
@jimmy_olds 4 жыл бұрын
Lawdy... the transmission that would need to be behind this beast and survive
@donellmuniz590
@donellmuniz590 4 жыл бұрын
Monster, Kilgore, Rossler, they're out there.
@CWEEzL95
@CWEEzL95 2 жыл бұрын
After seeing these power adders, how much more would it like a bigger hit of nitrous?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 жыл бұрын
IT WOULD TAKE MORE
@3vFox
@3vFox 4 жыл бұрын
Do a procharger test with the blower at XX psi, then pulley it for max rpm and add a wastegate set to XXpsi and see what it changes in the powerband. Hmmm
@mightyfinejonboy
@mightyfinejonboy 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a screw supercharged engine with a big turbo on it at the same time.
@cc23001
@cc23001 4 жыл бұрын
Gale Banks is doing that to a 7L duramax right now
@Knightmare-gz9ls
@Knightmare-gz9ls 4 жыл бұрын
The 671 graph looked like the most useful. If it just continues to climb till you got flow through ventilation in the block, did you ever really enjoy it's full potential ? Think a big block blower motor in my 86 as Monte would be sweet.
@231mac
@231mac 4 жыл бұрын
Are you crazy? The Procharger murdered it in torque from 4500 and there was no comparison in hp, lol
@menoaz
@menoaz 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed you did not use blower carbs. Did you just jet up a lot and run a 10.5 power valve?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 жыл бұрын
on the dyno it is easy-just jets
@RumblestripDotNet
@RumblestripDotNet 4 жыл бұрын
What I saw was NA this was only up 40-50 from the 408 LS stroker motor, and the LS weighs significantly less, so the loss in HP doesn't matter.
@donellmuniz590
@donellmuniz590 4 жыл бұрын
Some of us just want a big block or don't like LSes. I have my reasons, which are my business.
@etross72
@etross72 3 жыл бұрын
Would like to see the limits of new gen 8 1litre on twins
@SoGoodRc1
@SoGoodRc1 2 жыл бұрын
I'd guess a 10-71 would be better suited for near 500 cubes... and a superchiller to make it more comparable the the f1 intercooled
@johnparrish9215
@johnparrish9215 4 жыл бұрын
I think there is a lot of tire purchases with any of the combos.
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