Do You Agree or Disagree with Giannis Antetokounmpo’s Definition of “Failure”?

Do You Agree or Disagree with Giannis Antetokounmpo’s Definition of “Failure”? | The Rich Eisen Show

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Жыл бұрын

Rich Eisen Show guest host Kirk Morrison and the guys react to Giannis Antetokounmpo’s heated exchange with a reporter following the 1-seeded Milwaukee Bucks getting bounced out of the NBA Playoffs by Jimmy Butler’s Miami Heat.
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@clumsysmurf8109 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, Giannis deserves a lot of credit for in a tough moment having such a well thought out response to a question that gave the journalist a ton more than the tired old traditional responses. He also was incredibly respectful to the journalist. Big props.

@teejaye6226 Жыл бұрын

The fill in host for eisen has some real skills... usually they talk too fast.. he takes his time, let's words resonate... well done.

@hulioortiz6988 Жыл бұрын

Truth

@pfunk1992 Жыл бұрын

Yes

@Lannerii Жыл бұрын

brilliant answer to a loaded question, he instantly turns it around to show exactly how reductive and simple-minded the question actually was

@rileyhaley3848 Жыл бұрын

They were the 1 seed and lost to the 8 seed they failed... there is no way to spin it....If I broke all of the sales records for a year and lead my entire region in sales and I didn't get a bonus or raise yes 100% that is a failure lol

@r8td Жыл бұрын

@@rileyhaley3848 That’s how YOU see it. Not everyone in the world sees things the same. If you led in sales and didn’t get a raise or promotion the next year but got it the year after that, then some people wouldn’t see it as a failure because the goal was NEVER to not fail, it was to get the raise/promotion which you ultimately ended up getting.

@rileyhaley3848 Жыл бұрын

@rated that's literally the only view and I know every single Bucks fan feels the same way lol but keep trying to talk yourself out of that lmao

@rileyhaley3848 Жыл бұрын

@@r8td they weren't a random lucky team to make the playoffs... THEY'RE THE 1 SEED AND FAVORITE TO WIN. Lol

@Lannerii Жыл бұрын

@Riley Haley bro if you actually feel that way I have pity for you fr but not all of us are fairweather fans tryna ride the bandwagon to titletown and trying to reduce the entire season to 'did they win a chip' degrades the whole sport tbh

@caseykiesling4348 Жыл бұрын

I thought it was weird how Giannis brought up Jordan. Michael would consider a 1st round loss as a One seed a catastrophe

@Durag__bandit98 Жыл бұрын

Kobe did an interview where he said his wife told him since he devotes so much time to his craft he better win a championship anything else was a failure

@caseykiesling4348 Жыл бұрын

@@Durag__bandit98 the thing is Kobe definitely had that mindset, but I wouldn’t consider a tough loss in the semis or eastern conference finals a failure. A 1 seed losing 4-1 to an 8 though is a failure though at least in my view and it’s okay to fail and use it as motivation for growth.

@amehta23 Жыл бұрын

I think without saying it, he said it.. that he missed 3 games

@r8td Жыл бұрын

@@caseykiesling4348 There are upsets in sports, it happens. You’re telling me Jordan NEVER lost a game he was supposed to win? It happens. To some people that’s considered a failure and to some it isn’t.

@caseykiesling4348 Жыл бұрын

@@r8td let me preface by saying I agree with everything you said (except there's a difference between losing a game and a series), but the reporters question isn't about what an ordinary person would think in regards to a first round loss by a 1 seed, it's about the response of an elite athlete who is currently one of the top 3-5 players in the NBA. And for someone in that position given the mindset it takes to get there they would consider in a failure. Also Jordan and the Bulls never lost a series when they were the number 1 seed in the east.

@kurtrogers9658 Жыл бұрын

Loved his response

@marcusgarcia5089 Жыл бұрын

"That's what sport's about: you don't always win" damn man, feels.

@joanhutchinson4767 3 ай бұрын

I admired that part of Giannis' definition of a successful season was taking care of his family and providing for his parents. Spoken like an adult.

@acestone84 Жыл бұрын

I can understand Giannis’s point of view. He is looking at the macro process for success. Failure doesn’t exist , just results - in the macro sense Like how Dirk Nowitki’s losses in 2006 and 2007 helped him prepare for 2011. Lebron’s 2011 , helped him prepare for 2012 and 2013. Even though Dirk won in 2011 , we still consider 2006 and 2007 as failures as singular seasons. Even though Lebron has won multiple championships , we will see 2011 as a failure as a singular season. Giannis can come back next year and win a championship , it still won’t erase the fact the 2023 season was a failure. In essence , failure is both a destination and a process. Giannis is half right. He can use this season to get better and yes the Milwaukee Bucks failed this year

@poppessimsticonpistons1978 Жыл бұрын

Lol. Failure is a common stop along the road to success. Clearly it's also a word that triggers butthurt for Giannnis.

@r8td Жыл бұрын

He doesn’t see it that way though, and that’s perfectly fine. Everyone has their own way of seeing things. You’re saying if he wins a championship next year that this year would still be a failure right? His goal was never to not fail, it was to win a championship. Winning a championship is all that matters to him, so if he loses 10x in that process, it isn’t a failure to him because if he ends up winning one then that’s all that matters. Just like in football plenty of teams would absolutely pick winning a ring and then sucking for the next 5-6 years. Why? Because winning a ring is all that matters and if that makes you lose the next few years then it wasn’t a failure because the ultimate goal was to win the championship no matter how long it took

@Vincent-im9kg Жыл бұрын

Great answer. Some like a Man with a positive mental attitude, who knows the way The 🏆 hunt goes.

@ChiseledAdonis Жыл бұрын

If you're the Detroit Pistons you can make the argument that giannis made... But you're the Milwaukee bucks, a FAVORITE to win the NBA championship, the BEST record in the NBA alongside a top 3 defense in the NBA... With a 2 time MVP against an 8 seed without their #2 scoring option & undersized, undermanned that conqueref not one but TWO double digit FOURTH QUARTER deficits... This season was not only a failure... It was an absolute meltdown

@PakRT48 Жыл бұрын

MJ played 15 yrs, won 6 championships. The 9 yrs he didn't win was NOT a failure. Except for the 2 yrs he played with the Wizards.

@jaketerpening3284 Жыл бұрын

MJ never lost as the favorite though, but I think he probably would consider those 9 years he didn't win to be failures.

@gsp3428 Жыл бұрын

@@jaketerpening3284 what does that mean, those years he wasnt the favorite means they werent good enough

@PlyrMava. Жыл бұрын

MJ is one of the most toxic, overrated players ever. He couldn't do it without Pippen, and he acts like he was God. Screw him.

@Da13iG5eung Жыл бұрын

That's SIR Himothy Butler.

@joetigo2928 Жыл бұрын

It is a failure if your ambition is to win a ring, it is not a failure if you are happy to just make it to the playoffs. It is a perspective from your goal. Accepting failure is not a bad thing either. It is part of success. Let's call spade a spade, failure a failure. no need to sugarcoat.

@PlyrMava. Жыл бұрын

100% agree with Giannis. Yes, the ending to the season was disappointing because Milwaukee had a chance to go deep but Giannis got hurt. Anybody would be upset about feeling like they let their team down. But a failure? Absolutely not, and that term needs to go away for stars who don't get as far as we expect them to. Failures are reserved to teams that tank, front offices that trade in their future for a couple years chasing rings and don't get there. Brooklyn was a failure, the Sixers are a failure. The Bucks, 2021 Champs, are not a failure.

@aaronblackstone5743 Жыл бұрын

Great guest host

@Kirbystare1992 Жыл бұрын

Lol when Westbrook lost to a rookie Donovan Mitchell if he sat up there and said what Giannis said no one would be co signing it.

@keenannorris3309 Жыл бұрын

In argument, there's something called ethos, which equates to "standing" in our lexicon. Giannis has far more ethos/standing than Westbrook, which is why people are taking his thoughts more seriously.

@papifuego5273 Жыл бұрын

Its only a failure to fans because of the expectations yall have but when it comes down to it the playoffs are fun for a reason whats expected doesnt always happen

@parrishharris3008 Жыл бұрын

Your right

@xaevius5319 Жыл бұрын

so you telling me the bucks are happy that they got bounced in the first round considering they were the 1 seed? why even work your way to being 1 seed and being the best record in the nba if you're just fine with this? 😂

@papifuego5273 Жыл бұрын

@@xaevius5319 I didn't say they were okay with it Giannis was clearly pissed but are you telling me you like watching basketball because you know exactly what's going to happen every night and who is going to win. Lmao the best stories in sports are guys like Jimmy Butler bouncing the 1 seed bucks because he went nuclear. That's why we watch

@xaevius5319 Жыл бұрын

@@papifuego5273 really? cuz im pretty sure you said "it's only a failure to fans". if you weren't expecting my reply then I don't think you know what the word "only" means. " Lmao the best stories in sports are guys like Jimmy Butler bouncing the 1 seed bucks because he went nuclear. That's why we watch" ofc, I liked it when jimmy went nuts the final 2 games. I liked that the 8th seed heat upset the 1 seed bucks. when did I say I didn't? you're the only one putting words in my mouth that "i like basketball when i know what's going to happen every night". both things can be true. It's fun seeing the heat embarass the bucks, while also acknowledging from the bucks perspective that getting embarassed in the first round is a failure. cuz, just like your original comment, if you don't consider it a failure, then im assuming you consider it a success right? that's the only thing there is if you consider it not a failure.

@papifuego5273 Жыл бұрын

@@xaevius5319 you're so mad lmao I don't believe the players see an entire season and losing in the playoffs as a failure doesn't matter your seed or your record once you hit the playoffs. Anyone can win. True champions understand that sometimes you have to fail to learn how to succeed. You just want to be so right that you can't see how everything they went through is a stepping stone. Get the salt our of your wounds

@michaelseeton5006 Жыл бұрын

That’s why you play the games just because you are the best team doesn’t mean you always win the championship

@nachc6459 Жыл бұрын

Completely agree.....

@DeeMcMunda-zk3hs Жыл бұрын

Totally agree with him.

@vinztheprinz8752 Жыл бұрын

Giannis was asked if THIS season was a failure. He wasnt ask if he is a failure, or his career in basketball is a failure. This is sports. Its a competition yearly. Win or lose.

@rileyhaley3848 Жыл бұрын

Ya sports are binary you either win or you lose and winning = success and losing = failure there is no in between...

@mkcinc23 Жыл бұрын

Amen !

@sadawazoo86 Жыл бұрын

I agree with him.

@justinterry7853 Жыл бұрын

They did fail at this one season but that doesnt mean they will be a failure in the next season or season after next Each season is a chance and clean slate to win or lose that

@KC-bv9kf Жыл бұрын

Who was that who said: “Show me a good loser, and I will show you a loser”? Bear or Vince? Or someone else?

@AugustusMcMillan Жыл бұрын

the Bucks playing good all season long isnt finding anything out about themselves. the Kings playing good all season long is finding something out about themselves. two different expectations for two different organizations. Giannis gave the participation trophy era answer. this season was a failure for the Bucks.

@gsp3428 Жыл бұрын

Imagine being up three to one and you are a 13 point underdog.

@TheJuice70 Жыл бұрын

All these losers in the comments lol. At no point did Giannis say “it’s totally ok to lose as a 1 seed”, but he’s saying you can’t win a championship EVERY year.

@Kirbystare1992 Жыл бұрын

This is disingenuous though cause we know every team has different expectations which is why he’s asking the question. You can’t use the obvious “no one wins every year” excuse to dodge losing to an 8 seed.

@parrishharris3008 Жыл бұрын

All these loosers are mostly Heat fans talking nonsense.

@mamebonsu2560 Жыл бұрын

Lots of people that can’t understand the gold in his response will never be ones to grow from not achieving all of their goals.

@TheJuice70 Жыл бұрын

@@Kirbystare1992 did Giannis say that was okay? Ofcourse not. He knows it not acceptable, but you’re a total loser if you only look at failures in your life.

@xaevius5319 Жыл бұрын

because THAT'S the question being asked essentially 😂. the reporter wasn't asking him questions if this was a failure because he didn't win the chip. he asked it because they got fucking bounced in the first round to the 8th seed. lmao, and you out here calling these other people "losers" for getting what the reporter was trying to say? lol

@doctorkhumalo7730 Жыл бұрын

Yes. Failure was the wrong word to use and it's ironic considering a reporter is asking the question, he should have a better vocabulary, like Giannis said as a reporter does he get promoted every year and if he doesn't is that year now a failure? Choose your words wisely folks.

@poppessimsticonpistons1978 Жыл бұрын

Lol. If that reporter was in line for said promotion for all year, yet specifically did something to blow it in the final month leading up to it, he'd probably consider it a failure. Giannis twisted the context to fit his own narrative. Not a crime, but it's not as noble and thought provoking as some are trying to make it out to be either.

@gsp3428 Жыл бұрын

It isnt a particular goal, its the ultimate goal. Those other goals are kind of meaningless. There is one real goal for a team like the Bucks with the best player in the world, to win it all.

@rob3988 Жыл бұрын

🎉 Failure is not but steps it is 😊

@gsp3428 Жыл бұрын

Giannis is right in a sense, and wrong. I think a 1 seed losing to an 8 seed 4-1 is kind of a failure. But he is right, you have to just come back stronger and learn from your mistakes.

@ThePlumbum1 Жыл бұрын

Failure is an event, not a person.

@Tim_Dunkin Жыл бұрын

Disagree THIS SEASON they did...He literally said the definition of failure, while saying it doesn't exist. If failure doesn't exist why do ppl want to win so bad when they get to the playoffs? Why even play? Or how do you enjoy or know success (small or big)? For one you need the other. If it doesn't exist why was he scared get the 🏀 late in gm5? Bc he failed at FTs. Its ok failing isn't permanent. Tell coach who may lose his job & just lost his bro there's no failure or the teammates that sacrifice tor this 1 chance that may be unsigned or traded, "we didn't fail it's just steps to get it next yr or the next', when they won't even be there 😐

@alvaroherrera3842 Жыл бұрын

Not only does he not accept responsibility for the resounding failure. that apart, like every good toxic and manipulative woman, he gets angry and turns things around to make the reporter look bad for asking. What a shame! Much of what defines an NBA superstar is their mentality. And giannis is just too F weak

@poppessimsticonpistons1978 Жыл бұрын

Lol. I think it's more the emotion of a tough loss. He was definitely butt hurt though.

@nachc6459 Жыл бұрын

He accepted defeat, he’s just not a failure. The response is too much for you to handle gringo..... lol

@suvettagreen9547 Жыл бұрын

He is definitely not weak. He is mentally tough. Coming from his experiences and how he got to the NBA is anything but weak. People are judging this man image being asked this question after a major loss. This is a team sport the entire team including the coaches dropped the ball. Put yourself in his shoes.

@poppessimsticonpistons1978 Жыл бұрын

@@nachc6459 Lol. The the reporter didn't ask if Giannis was a failure ... he asked if the season was a failure ...

@gsp3428 Жыл бұрын

Giannis as great as he is, and he could be the GOAT if he ever learned to really shoot, Its his achilles heal, he has only progressed to be a somewhat competent shooter. Shooting is the one thing that can be improved with enough time and work, but as long as he isnt a very good shooter, teams will have a shot at beating him. If he ever really learns to shoot he will become truly unstoppable

@mikerhem1273 Жыл бұрын

Lol yeah that's probably true for thousands of retired vets. Just makes sense you cant have everything. Agility, acceleration, Height, and Ridiculous athleticism. It seems that every single one of these NBA Builds have the same flaw. Lack of soft touch shooting ability'. Also This is why Players like Giannis and Westbrook should not be considered superstars. You should not be able to expose a superstar like that.

@gsp3428 Жыл бұрын

@@mikerhem1273 I think thats pretty absurd to say Giannis isnt a superstar or Westbrook in his prime. Does Giannis have a weakness as pretty much everyone does except maybe Lebron. His strengths are so great he is almost unstoppable, just being able to shoot would make him truly unstoppable.

@mikerhem1273 Жыл бұрын

@@gsp3428 False. The NBA's real superstars don't really have a flaw. Kevin Durant is the anomaly that has Every ability I listed while Also being one of the greatest shooters. Curry can do everything for the PG position yet still hes the best shooter. A true superstar. Excluding injury, Kawhi Leonard can Also do everything I listed while Being one of the NBA's deadliest Mid range shooters with a great outside shot range as well. A true superstar. Labron Goat #2 nuff said. Forgot about Jokic but I don't really know where he fits in. But that's about it for current NBA superstars. Everyone else should fall into the glorified all star category. NBA IS A SHOOTING LEAGUE, No excuses for Giannis.

@gsp3428 Жыл бұрын

@@mikerhem1273 Giannis is bigger than Kevin, stronger, more athletic, better passer, better defender, way better finisher at the rim, better ball handler. Just cant shoot like Kevin, if he could shoot like Kevin, the Bucks may never lose again. Curry doesnt have any weaknesses in his skill set, his skill set is perfect, but doesnt have great size and below average athleticism. Kawai can do everything to a moderate degree, he is a good athlete but not exceptional, he is a good shooter but not exceptional, not a great passer Every player can actually do everything, its how well they do everything. Luca has a great skill set, shooting passing ballhandling but lacks athleticism, just like Jokic, Jokic can shoot and pass but has way below average athleticism,and cant really take you off the dribble, maybe at times. Even Micheal Jordan, had exceptional athleticism, couldnt be stopped going to basket, could shoot but wasnt an elite shooter, or passer or ball handler.

@anthonyanderson9303 Жыл бұрын

@@mikerhem1273 you said all of that yet Durant has never won a title as the man and Giannis has

@dustonlindeman3368 Жыл бұрын

Being a #1 and losing to a play in 8. Its not success. They play to win not come in at the middle of the pack. Giannis is a beast. His Bucks are becoming the Peyton Manning Colts of the NBA. Great regular season, got a chip. Not championship bound each year.

@dabiggchill06 Жыл бұрын

I think each individual athlete that competes gets to decide what is a failure.

@LEXIAMBRI Жыл бұрын

Giannis nice guy act is just a front, fugazzi

@EyesOfThePlagued Жыл бұрын

Being the 1st seed losing to the 8th play in seed is absolutely a failure when you have certain expectations of your team

@faze2013 Жыл бұрын

Even if best player misses 3 of those games

@parrishharris3008 Жыл бұрын

Shut up Heat fan Giannis was hurt so now y'all hyped up as a play-in 8th seed lol - u heat fans are trash.

@misterone409 Жыл бұрын

@@faze2013 Choked double digit leads in 2 of the last games. Not like they got dominated without giannis. He has to take responsibility.

@xaevius5319 Жыл бұрын

@@faze2013 and the only game they won giannis was absent 🤷

@tonyxiong6610 Жыл бұрын

To take from what Dan Patrick said about this "Failure is in the eyes of the beholder". That's how I see it, thus it's a failure. Again I get what Giannis is coming from but to me it's a failure.

@joeblackie5336 Жыл бұрын

This is the era of the participation trophy kids, so no one actually loses. 😑😒🙄

@kinsoncooper7333 Жыл бұрын

I don't want to hear these hypocrites anymore.... they lack integrity... they are a bunch of liars.... once they like the player it's all good, but once they hate the player, it will definitely affect their legacy.

@JHC2812 Жыл бұрын

Man who is this dude

@markkoep Жыл бұрын

Not winning a championship isn’t a failure. Losing in 5 to the 8 seed, especially in the way they lost last night, makes it a failure

@faze2013 Жыл бұрын

Dude missed 3 games.. pretty much impossible to win without him

@markkoep Жыл бұрын

@@faze2013 heat lost multiple players too. A 1 seed should beat or at least compete with an 8 even if they’re missing their best player. They got smoked.

@Lee-ic8ln Жыл бұрын

Hard disagree. Bucks season was a failure. Loosing in the first round to a bunch of injured players is a failure. Couldn't even win 2 games.

@d.rock2224 Жыл бұрын

This is ridiculius. Of course its a failure of a season lol. In the NBA you dont get anything for being a 1 seed sor winning a division credit wise. Its all about the playoffs. These bucks won the chip 2 years ago, anything outside of making the finals was a failure. Hell, people been saying since novembrr if the Cs dont win the chip their season is a failure. How is a 1 seed knocked out in 5 games of round 1 not a failure? Its only the 6th time its happened in NBA history lol

@FrostiiVibes Жыл бұрын

Has the best record in the nba, first seed, and gets a gentleman’s sweep against a team without their second star, but it’s not a failure… I love Giannis, but this ain’t it.

@calioumarx4289 Жыл бұрын

I'm giannis fan but I disagree is big time failure

@tanner2238 Жыл бұрын

Giannis is correct especially in a playoff series he was hurt the majority of. Every team in the playoffs is probably going to lose if their best player misses multiple games due to injury

@faze2013 Жыл бұрын

That part

@user-js7mo3wy4z Жыл бұрын

Not to undermanned 8th seed. Stop the excuses, that’s back2back 4th quarters the supposedly best player disappeared smh

@rileyhaley3848 Жыл бұрын

@bonefishgrill6382 Жыл бұрын

This wasant a failure... it was a disaster 😂 Don't ever compare yourself to Jordan when you go 10-23 at the ft line

@donmon808 Жыл бұрын

Wbu are you talking about championships? He asked him that after the best team in the nba losy to a 8th seed its 100% a failure

@nicoalexander774 Жыл бұрын

I disagree with Giannis’ take. First of all, they were the best team in the regular season and they lost to an 8th seed in a Gentleman’s Sweep. Second, Giannis is the best player in the world and he was the main reason why his team lost and got closed out AT HOME! Michael Jordan, LeBron, Kobe, Steph, etc. would not allowed that to happen! ❤️

@nicholassimmonsthomas8504 Жыл бұрын

Micheal was 1 n 9 in the playoffs without Scottie Pippin Just stop talking sports 😂😂😂

@christianacosta3945 Жыл бұрын

@@nicholassimmonsthomas8504 was Michael 1 and 9 as the 1 seed losing to the 8th? No? Then that’s false equivalency. 🤡

@deminioxst6129 Жыл бұрын

None of them played in a market like Milwaukee

@nicholassimmonsthomas8504 Жыл бұрын

@@christianacosta3945 homie do you not understand what 1 n 9 means.... Can you do math? Lol how many games did Giannias start I'll wait 😂😂😂👍 Those statistics alone prove who incompetent you are.. Micheal lost all the time in the playoffs 😂😂😂😂👌

@dwilliams380 Жыл бұрын

So it was an ultimate failure then?

@raja0011987 Жыл бұрын

Being a 1 seed got beaten so badly by an 8th seed is a failure, no matter what you say, it is catastrophe and a meltdown. Giannis should go and practice free throws in the summer. He was abysmal.

@d.rock2224 Жыл бұрын

Not to mention Giannis missed 12 free throws, 12!!! He lost them the game

@beantown4life Жыл бұрын

13 free throws he missed lol

@d.rock2224 Жыл бұрын

@@beantown4life my bad lol

@beantown4life Жыл бұрын

@@d.rock2224 it's cool lol I'm glad the bucks got beat

@gsp3428 Жыл бұрын