The Voice of REason: Electronic Sign Stealing Is Worse Than Steroids | The Rich Eisen Show | 1/17/20

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@m.3591
@m.3591 4 жыл бұрын
You really need smarter sidekicks
@zacr6564
@zacr6564 4 жыл бұрын
Even if you never played baseball, play a video game... When you know what pitch is coming it becomes a hell of a lot easier...
@joeygonzo
@joeygonzo 4 жыл бұрын
that's what changeups are for. bald dude is clueless.
@petoskey_stone
@petoskey_stone 4 жыл бұрын
@@joeygonzo Except when you know a changeup is coming lol
@joeygonzo
@joeygonzo 4 жыл бұрын
@@petoskey_stone then it's no longer a change-up. Like the one Altuve hit off Chapman. He knew it was coming.
@benl9775
@benl9775 4 жыл бұрын
Jack Ridge it was a shitty pitch, that doesn’t help
@romiarkan450
@romiarkan450 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I deliberately miss the swing in those video games
@dylanspurlock6150
@dylanspurlock6150 4 жыл бұрын
A pitcher has a way better shot at getting a roided up guy out than a guy who knows exactly what pitch is coming. You can still fool a guy on steroids. You can’t fool someone who knows what you’re about to throw.
@gjchawks17
@gjchawks17 4 жыл бұрын
The best is the people that argue that's not true even though multiple MLB pitchers have said this. Why wouldn't a guy who probably hasn't played baseball past high school know more about what's a bigger advantage in the MLB than active players?
@spencervanhauter
@spencervanhauter 4 жыл бұрын
The fact Chris doesn’t understand the difference between a 98 mph fast ball and a 79 mph breaking pitch is hilarious.
@bigbodybenzy
@bigbodybenzy 4 жыл бұрын
Chris clearly has never played baseball at any knowledge attainable level.
@littlesame
@littlesame 4 жыл бұрын
Not surprise Chris the pats fan find the cheating no big deal 😂
@TheACM22
@TheACM22 4 жыл бұрын
Also a Red Sox fan
@austinyoung242
@austinyoung242 4 жыл бұрын
I am both a Pats and Sox fan and I think Chris is a moron.
@lmenzol
@lmenzol 4 жыл бұрын
Austin Young you obviously don’t get the joke. The patriots are a dirty franchise
@mrxxsesshomaruxx9642
@mrxxsesshomaruxx9642 4 жыл бұрын
TheACM22 Oh that explains a lot.
@jasondaley718
@jasondaley718 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I almost spit my coffee out
@garrettsasser4565
@garrettsasser4565 4 жыл бұрын
Altuve has pictures right now of himself with his shirt off with his wife right beside him on Instagram.
@johncurry456
@johncurry456 4 жыл бұрын
You sir are exactly right, I'm 68 years old been rooting for the cardinals for 60 of those years , this is the biggest scandal to hit MLB in my lifetime. I just hope they press on and go after players who were involved in this
@djmetcalf3815
@djmetcalf3815 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why anyone would be confused by Chris’ view on this. Of course the Patriots fan would be defending cheating.
@neugey
@neugey 4 жыл бұрын
Chris out here trying to get a 1-year ban from the Eisen show 😂
@shuatreee
@shuatreee 4 жыл бұрын
Your cueball friend needs to work on his argument.
@joeygonzo
@joeygonzo 4 жыл бұрын
Argument. Baldy is clueless.
@shuatreee
@shuatreee 4 жыл бұрын
@AsSeenOnTV and yet nobody else wondered who I was talking about lol
@yragoam6886
@yragoam6886 4 жыл бұрын
Let's put in terms Chris will understand. One of the many reasons Tom Brady is a great quarterback is his ability to decipher defenses pre-snap and know which receiver will be open. Even if he's extremely physically gift (like many quarterbacks out there) but he can't decipher defense pre-snap in any way, then he probably won't be a great quarterback. Knowing information is way more valuable than physical strength, especially in a sport where physical strength isn't as important.
@MrSharkJB23
@MrSharkJB23 4 жыл бұрын
And after he crossed home plate, he immediately went into the dugout and then into the locker room and came out in a different shirt. Instead of celebrating on field with his teammates.
@JustMeELC
@JustMeELC 4 жыл бұрын
MrSharkJB23 They all changed into ALCS T-Shirts lol But yes sketchy he didn't just throw it on like everyone else. & went into the tunnel to change before his on field interview.
@blucy10
@blucy10 4 жыл бұрын
On his show, Pat McAfee said the same thing.
@brodssn
@brodssn 4 жыл бұрын
Chris’s justification about this is mind boggling.
@Drago2600
@Drago2600 4 жыл бұрын
And the MLB pretty much sold a world series for 5 Mil.
@tantalus3881
@tantalus3881 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly, worth it
@davy1972
@davy1972 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is just disagreeing to be the one disagreeing.
@JustMeELC
@JustMeELC 4 жыл бұрын
D13 Either that or he's an Astros fan or a complete moron.
@Windupchronic
@Windupchronic 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Chris has never actually _played_ baseball.
@gregsomebody7247
@gregsomebody7247 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@johnfarr2738
@johnfarr2738 4 жыл бұрын
Nope
@waynefinnicumbb3701
@waynefinnicumbb3701 4 жыл бұрын
He probably never held a baseball
@spence61
@spence61 4 жыл бұрын
Wow Chris has never played baseball before in his life it sounds like...and I 100% agree with Rich
@FSamuels20
@FSamuels20 4 жыл бұрын
Agree!!! Who the hell sits on a Chapman off speed pitch?
@CIARUNSITE
@CIARUNSITE 4 жыл бұрын
Cheating at baseball is still better than dumping a magazine in your girlfriend's general direction and somehow convincing the cops not to charge you for the 8 bullets you fired at the house she was in.
@FSamuels20
@FSamuels20 4 жыл бұрын
BeaterWRX wtf does that have to do with this topic, L O L
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 4 жыл бұрын
@@CIARUNSITE Someone should drop you into a woodchipper.
@shannysalcedo3627
@shannysalcedo3627 4 жыл бұрын
Floyd Samuels did you not watch the game. Chapman had no control of his fastball. I was screaming at Boone to take him out or walk altuve to face marisnik
@moliver8295
@moliver8295 4 жыл бұрын
My guy said no matter how trapezoidal your head is I'm dead
@VeN0m88
@VeN0m88 4 жыл бұрын
Chris never picked up a ball or a bat in his life.
@DucksGamedayBreakdown
@DucksGamedayBreakdown 2 жыл бұрын
Amen Rich!!!
@itsalwayssomething7490
@itsalwayssomething7490 4 жыл бұрын
It's not just about knowing what's coming and hitting it. It's about knowing what not to swing at, which moves the count in the batter's favor and increases the chances of the batter hitting a ball in which he already knows what's coming.
@mclew1234
@mclew1234 4 жыл бұрын
The best way you could summerize it to the guy saying well you still got to hit is performing an emergency stop and being drunk. The drunk is going to be slower than someone who is sober, but if you know that you will have to do an emergency stop in 5 seconds you'll stop faster than both
@gregsomebody7247
@gregsomebody7247 4 жыл бұрын
Chris is hopeless.
@vanash4
@vanash4 4 жыл бұрын
It's the run to the dugout that sealed it.
@TheRealParker
@TheRealParker 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously Chris has never swung a bat
@nickregalado8641
@nickregalado8641 4 жыл бұрын
Why isn't the AL west being compensated? The Asssstros had to implement that system during the regular season so it could work in the postseason.
@khure711
@khure711 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, everyone wants to complain about the playoffs. What about the team the assholes played the most (AL West). Seattle was actually trying to make the playoffs in forever and just missed the wildcard. That year the assholes ran James Paxton off the mound by the 3rd inning and made him look like a double-a pitcher
@Ezzcare
@Ezzcare 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, you still have to hit the ball if you know what pitch is coming, but at least you know what pitch is on its way instead of swinging at any and every pitch.
@kicknadeadcat
@kicknadeadcat 4 жыл бұрын
Not only do you a get a better shot of hitting it, but also which pitch to lay off. Which means more swings and more chances too get that hit. Which also means you don’t have to hit it at all. A walk is as good as a hit...... some people don’t get?
@IkePhillipRuffin
@IkePhillipRuffin 4 жыл бұрын
If I know an offspeed pitch is coming after getting 2 fastballs, that's a huge advantage for a batter. I just don't know the pitch location, but I know it's offspeed, so I can adjust my reaction time.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 4 жыл бұрын
This Chris guy is clueless.
@derianalfredodominguezpere88
@derianalfredodominguezpere88 4 жыл бұрын
The piece of hat your friend ate is affecting him more than we thought if he's really supporting this thing.
@eddiesanchez551
@eddiesanchez551 4 жыл бұрын
did he ever really eat a piece been looking for that video
@derianalfredodominguezpere88
@derianalfredodominguezpere88 4 жыл бұрын
@@eddiesanchez551 Yeah, I don't remember the name of the video but he did
@kennymcburns7843
@kennymcburns7843 4 жыл бұрын
@@eddiesanchez551 I only know the video of Werner Herzog eating a shoe...
@alexdaniels7646
@alexdaniels7646 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not a fraction of a second. I bet they have over a second from the buzz til the pitch is released. From the catchers sign til the release of the ball has to be at least 4 seconds, so the he probably had 2 seconds standing in the batters box knowing it was a change up
@emforwardslash_em4570
@emforwardslash_em4570 4 жыл бұрын
Preach Rich!! I've been saying this since jomboy posted the vid of the White Sox pitcher. this is going to be the worst case of cheating in American Sports history.
@Eijianthony
@Eijianthony 4 жыл бұрын
Chris FAIL
@marcramirez2790
@marcramirez2790 4 жыл бұрын
That guy was truly using a movie as his argument.. how can you not think knowing what pitch is coming is not an advantage.
@shannysalcedo3627
@shannysalcedo3627 4 жыл бұрын
He probably doesnt know about strike zones
@philliphodson2602
@philliphodson2602 4 жыл бұрын
Do you want a Jedi playing baseball? I agree with RE, knowing what is coming is the ultimate way to enhance your performance.
@kellymartin8090
@kellymartin8090 4 жыл бұрын
This is the second video I’ve seen where Chris basically supports this type of cheating and I’ve come to the conclusion he is truly stripped of any ability to tell right from wrong.
@bcask61
@bcask61 4 жыл бұрын
If he doesn’t know much of a difference it makes knowing what pitch is coming, he has never played baseball.
@johnlona1
@johnlona1 4 жыл бұрын
Chris is clueless!
@TheMythkyl
@TheMythkyl 4 жыл бұрын
you just going to wait till its off speed much easier to hit a curve or a change up when you know.
@treefiddy209
@treefiddy209 4 жыл бұрын
This is why Dodgers players rip the jersey off each other during a walkoff. No buzzers here
@chaosawaits
@chaosawaits 4 жыл бұрын
Buzzer could just be in the pants
@chaosawaits
@chaosawaits 4 жыл бұрын
@Marcus Guzman okay!!
@carlosenriquez9852
@carlosenriquez9852 4 жыл бұрын
It's totally believable because I don't know what to believe anymore.-Rich Eisen-
@leesmith4813
@leesmith4813 4 жыл бұрын
Ur a funny guy Rich , hi from the U.K
@bryanreilly4117
@bryanreilly4117 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ has Chris ever played a single sport in his life?
@wreckim
@wreckim 4 жыл бұрын
If one of the best 50 hitters in the world know an off-speed pitch is coming over the plate, the hitting percentage is crazy; like 0.500.
@roningaijin7701
@roningaijin7701 4 жыл бұрын
if you have someone throwing 100mph heat, Chapman, and followed it with an 85mph change up... good luck. BUT if you know it's coming, the pitcher is the one that needs luck.
@EddieCCanegetitin
@EddieCCanegetitin 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think you could break the hit streak record if you knew what pitch is coming?????
@spycam56
@spycam56 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris.....if knowing what pitch is coming not a HUGE advantage, then why would the Astro's do it in the first place!?!?!?!?!?!?
@Genjo_N_Mojave
@Genjo_N_Mojave 4 жыл бұрын
It's as old as the civilized world, not since 1919!
@jaycee990
@jaycee990 4 жыл бұрын
I’m nowhere near a regular to this show but I’ve watched clips all weekend and have been really impressed......until now. I don’t know who this guy Chris is, but I know he’s an absolute fool! Sorry Rich, I can’t trust this show for an intelligent point of view on anything with such a clueless voice included. Wow
@shannysalcedo3627
@shannysalcedo3627 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Cee the show would be boring then if everyone agreed with each other. There is a reason the skip and shannon show is so popular on undisputed
@bcask61
@bcask61 4 жыл бұрын
“I got a piece on” WTF does the
@wsopmcgee
@wsopmcgee 4 жыл бұрын
Trapezoidal head 😂😂😂😂😂
@iamCoachEddie
@iamCoachEddie 4 жыл бұрын
It's obvious Chris never played the game!!! It's extremely hard to hit a baseball but if you are a professional hitter and you know the pitch your chance get extremely better.
@larryjordan23
@larryjordan23 4 жыл бұрын
You can power thru any pitch on steroids. We had three guys break the home run record that wasn't broken for dam near 100 years. But knowing the pitch is more deadly............smh
@chaosawaits
@chaosawaits 4 жыл бұрын
How far back does this go? Because the 2017 Houston Astros weren't the first team to systematically steal signs. They were just sloppy and arrogant about it, which makes me think this is more widespread than MLB is letting us know. This is a huge deal.
@maxwest6169
@maxwest6169 4 жыл бұрын
How are you supposed to hear a trash can in that loud stadium though
@kennymcburns7843
@kennymcburns7843 4 жыл бұрын
Just take a look at the videos / games and you will hear it by yourself!
@paulieb2000
@paulieb2000 4 жыл бұрын
Every single batter knew exactly what was coming when they faced Mariano Riveria and he was still unhittable. Sometimes for 3 innings straight!!
@moonlightmelodrama
@moonlightmelodrama 4 жыл бұрын
Buzzergate. Can't wait to hear from the Astros that the equipment manager has been promoted to head baseball scout in Outer Mongolia.
@dandougie363
@dandougie363 4 жыл бұрын
I believe this to my CORA .. lol... and it was 2019 this all went down too so exactly 100yrs 🤷‍♂️
@metalplanet-moreonmetal5444
@metalplanet-moreonmetal5444 4 жыл бұрын
THE PITCH IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SURPRISE.
@Chris-xp9df
@Chris-xp9df 4 жыл бұрын
If u can sit off speed and don’t have to worry about 96 mph fastball in the bag of your mind timing will be better and a lot easier
@Rinzler03ny
@Rinzler03ny 4 жыл бұрын
When did Altuve's teammates ripped his shirt off after walk off homerun?
@johnanthony2333
@johnanthony2333 4 жыл бұрын
Chris says he was joking about bringing up the comparison of real-life cheating to the movie major league, but if you look at his face you can tell he was being serious AF.
@heygar1881
@heygar1881 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe Altuve was wearing lingerie under his jersey. Ala Bull Durham. 😆
@lamelama22
@lamelama22 4 жыл бұрын
If he came out and used that excuse... it would probably kill all of this talk lol
@theseventysevenmileroad
@theseventysevenmileroad 4 жыл бұрын
How bout no steroids and no electronic sign stealing. Can we have both?
@romiarkan450
@romiarkan450 4 жыл бұрын
With steroids they still have to try hitting the ball
@jrangel101
@jrangel101 4 жыл бұрын
As a Dodgers fan, I feel violated.
@JustMeELC
@JustMeELC 4 жыл бұрын
Jocsan Isaac Rangel Smh... as a BASEBALL fan ugh. This is bigger then just a team!
@NeilTruick
@NeilTruick 4 жыл бұрын
*IF* electronic sign stealing is worse than steroids (and I completely agree), then Pete Rose's ban needs to be lifted tomorrow and he needs to be exactly where he belongs--in the Hall of Fame. We have officially discovered *TWO* more egregious violations against the spirit and integrity of the game than what Pete did. I'm not condoning what he did at all. What I am questioning is whether his punishment actually fits his crime, given their recent stances. Major League Baseball personally invited him to be on the field during the All-Star Game when it was played in Cincinnati, even though he hasn't been allowed to get a job in baseball as a single-A batting coach. If they stayed consistent and treated him as the stain they claimed he was which necessitated his complete removal from the game during his lifetime, then I would have no problem saying he needs to remain _persona non grata_ and remain banned. However, MLB will weigh the profit-making opportunity to the need to adhere to the principles _they define_ and, too many times, they chose profit over principles and temporarily lift that ban, which brings into question the effectiveness of the ban and the hypocrisy of their enforcement. Bottom line: Pete needs to be in the Hall. The 2017 title needs to be vacated, because the Astros got caught. Hopefully, that will make teams think twice about pulling anything like that in the future.
@wareagle8635
@wareagle8635 4 жыл бұрын
Then he runs off into The locker TO CHANGE HIS SHIRT FFS
@gr8st2323
@gr8st2323 4 жыл бұрын
Chris...just wwwwwwwow
@BIGHAMZA
@BIGHAMZA 4 жыл бұрын
That chick at 5:04 in the background. Damn...
@nick3850
@nick3850 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!!!! far worse then steroids and I think even worse then betting like Rose, who is still banned and now the players get a pass?
@acottonshirt
@acottonshirt 4 жыл бұрын
Is chris on the astros payroll?
@chrisweidner2617
@chrisweidner2617 4 жыл бұрын
Steroids were about sport survival. I remember the times. College and NFL players looked like men thanks to steroids. Baseball players looked like little boys. They needed to grow to have an audience. The Astros Players need to be suspended without pay and the WS vacated.
@DoubleRR44
@DoubleRR44 4 жыл бұрын
Altuve should be banned for life period! If you did it to Pete Rose you have to do it to him.
@timbobjustthefacts6712
@timbobjustthefacts6712 4 жыл бұрын
MLB will probably close down the investigation after they're through with the Sox, but know this, these two teams weren't alone. Glass houses and rocks. Even Rich brought up the possibility that Beltran, as a Special advisor to the Yanks, may have brought his "system" with him in 2019. It's, in my opinion, foolish to believe this was isolated ONLY to the Stros or Sox.
@Red1Revival
@Red1Revival 4 жыл бұрын
if you've ever played baseball at any level you know the difference between knowing what pitch is coming and not is fucking absurd. It's the difference between live baseball and batting practice.
@Arms1234
@Arms1234 4 жыл бұрын
Fire Chris
@scottywayne
@scottywayne 4 жыл бұрын
Are these sports guys!? I cannot believe this guy doesn't get it. When you know what's coming you do not get fooled a pitch, you don't take bad swings at breaking balls out of the zone, this is a pitchers bread n butter. It means the hitter either drills a ball in the zone or takes a walk. There's way LESS of a chance of striking out or hitting a weak groundball. Basically the hitter is locked-in, and when a Major League hitter is locked-in, has the pitch speed timed (because he knows whats coming), --he can drill the ball.
@fireice9422
@fireice9422 4 жыл бұрын
Beyond the pale!
@gjchawks17
@gjchawks17 4 жыл бұрын
It's not even the ability to hit an off speed pitch. It's the knowledge that the low outside strike is about to break 9+ inches down and away for a ball. Laying off every breaking ball out of the zone, get into better hitter counts, get the pitch you know you can hit. The Astros went from one of the highest strike outs per game teams to the lowest in 2017. That's where the cheating happened. They all stopped swinging at breaking balls that are in the dirt that normal batters swing at. How hard is that to understand? Sure the signal can help you sit on a hanging breaking ball, some of the best hitters can crush those anyways, and then you get a situation like the 2019 ALCS. Altuve is good enough to hit a hanger but now we will never truly know. Why would a team stop cheating after it work and gave them a championship. People aren't known for stopping when they are ahead, they always push further.
@KidSillyFresh
@KidSillyFresh 4 жыл бұрын
Chris, this is not the hill you want to die on dude.
@velder22
@velder22 4 жыл бұрын
The New England Astros LOL I stole that from somebody else
@jimjames8501
@jimjames8501 4 жыл бұрын
In fact, you can go one step further...were all the players this past season tearing their shirts off on game winning hits as proof they weren't Altuve?????????????????? In other words, the players started doing it to show up Altuve????? I'd certainly like to believe it was so.
@KurtsMaine
@KurtsMaine 4 жыл бұрын
Has Chris ever played baseball?! Are you kidding me 60% of hitting is guessing the right pitch. If you are sitting on a curve and you get a fastball your going to be late, if you expect fastball and get a curve you will look stupid. The dude has never picked up a bat and stepped in the box and it shows
@VeN0m88
@VeN0m88 4 жыл бұрын
I cant wait till Chapman beams Altuve next time they face
@kimehunt4501
@kimehunt4501 4 жыл бұрын
Reinstate Pete Rose. Yes he gambled on baseball but if Cora and Beltran are only getting a year suspension Pete's 30 years is more than time served.
@shuatreee
@shuatreee 4 жыл бұрын
Altuve is the opposite of shy about opening his jersey, just Google Altuve abs. So which is it? Is he shy or did he get in trouble with his wife the last time? Seems weird to get 2 excuses and laughter about it. Unless there was another reason to keep his jersey on...
@velder22
@velder22 4 жыл бұрын
Look at his home batting average compared to his away batting average, Jose was definitely cheating
@ogmangler8820
@ogmangler8820 4 жыл бұрын
Chris has obviously not played any sport other than pocket pool
@TheRealParker
@TheRealParker 4 жыл бұрын
Houston should be banned for a season
@neilbaldwin1492
@neilbaldwin1492 4 жыл бұрын
Chris is being purposely obtuse.
@bulldawgslays3724
@bulldawgslays3724 4 жыл бұрын
Chris needs to play mlb the show and guess pitch correctly and incorrectly
@ramontiongson5566
@ramontiongson5566 4 жыл бұрын
MLB the Show. Guess a pitch.
@kennedyjones4039
@kennedyjones4039 4 жыл бұрын
Rich is 100% right and this Chris guy is an absolute fool. This video was so hard to watch. I, like most tune in to RE for intelligent sports discussion. Can't recall ever seeing Rich this frustrated trying to get a point across. Ugh.
@anonymousopinion6209
@anonymousopinion6209 4 жыл бұрын
Chris. Stuff
@TheBatmanjb
@TheBatmanjb 4 жыл бұрын
He's guilty go look at the replay if you stop it a the Right time,you can see the tape on his chest,an he's afraid that he will be expose,gulit needs to be suspended indefinitely.
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