S.I.’s Albert Breer on What to Expect from Sam Darnold as Vikings’ QB1 | The Rich Eisen Show

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Sports Illustrated’s Albert Breer and Rich Eisen Sam Darnold’s outlook as the Vikings QB1 after the departure of Kirk Cousins.
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@robe2504
@robe2504 18 күн бұрын
At last someone that has actually watched Darnold in the last 3 years!!! Remember also that Sam is only 27. Kirk was 30 when he arrived at the Vikes. Darnold was very efficient in the Ravens game, and the week 18 game vs the Rams. Sam actually had a very strong finish to the 2022 season, inheriting a 3-8 Panthers team from Baker, and finishing 4-2 and almost got the Panthers into the playoffs. Darnold had Brady and Evans pulling out record breaking performances to hold the Panthers out.
@laudanum669
@laudanum669 18 күн бұрын
In Darnolds' first 4 years in the NFL he started 50 games. In those games he was sacked 133 times, then add in how many times he was pressured. There are few starting NFL QB's that would do well in that situation. He will be just fine as QB #1 in Minnesota.
@oel734
@oel734 10 күн бұрын
Reminds me a bit of David Carr's doomed NFL experience with the Texans. The only difference is that at least Sam could run away from the Defenses and even make a play or two on the run so he wasn't ruined mentally like David was where HE was a human pinata.
@RandomUsernameGenerator
@RandomUsernameGenerator 18 күн бұрын
It never occurred to me before that the NFC West is where AFC QBs go to rehab their careers
@EvilTheOne
@EvilTheOne 18 күн бұрын
Donald, ball out this season, then we (Vikings fans) don't have to worry about starting a rookie at all this season.
@oel734
@oel734 10 күн бұрын
Is it really that difficult to spell Sam's last name? D-A-R-N-O-L-D? Unless you think he's Donald Duck or something. lol
@EvilTheOne
@EvilTheOne 8 күн бұрын
@@oel734 Truly sorry, my bad. I always spell words incorrectly, so that wasn't the first time...won't be the last no matter how hard I try. And as people have been spelling my actual name wrong my entire life, I usually don't get affected by misspelled words/names...that's life.
@TheJalinmyles
@TheJalinmyles 11 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂 gotta love the player positivity
@karenhardie1132
@karenhardie1132 17 күн бұрын
Sam is a vet. He had a few crappy teams. He learned a lot in SF when he was on a good team. Let JJ sit and learn. Look at the success GB has had. Don't throw JJ in too quickly.
@Tony_in_Montana
@Tony_in_Montana 19 күн бұрын
Josh Allen was fortunate to go to a team with a good new coach and gm, but had a terrible o-line and no weapons to throw to his first two years. Not quite the same as Lamar and Mahomes situations
@FatDolo47
@FatDolo47 18 күн бұрын
yea idk how Josh situation was anything like the other 2 lmao. confused me a bit
@natelombardo
@natelombardo 18 күн бұрын
Yea Albert is all over the place..Allen had a first time head coach who primary focus is defense.
@austinnasser
@austinnasser 18 күн бұрын
Putting the situations of Lamar and Mahomes in the same sentence is funny. Lamar MADE his situation, Mahomes was blessed with sitting for a year in an Andy Reid system with Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill to get the ball to. Lamar’s situtation pales in comparison.
@Tony_in_Montana
@Tony_in_Montana 18 күн бұрын
Lamar went to a tram with John Harbaugh as the head coach. A veteran coach that had won a Super Bowl. He had a great offensive line and a good defense. I don't remember the receivers he had, but he utilizes tight ends way more anyway and he had two good tight ends. His situation was a lot closer to Mahomes' situation than it was to Allen's
@mike1mike135
@mike1mike135 18 күн бұрын
Albert got some SUN on his face 😂
@rollerr
@rollerr 18 күн бұрын
Situation is crucial to QBs, bad coaches and GMs don't want to admit it to cover their own asses but some of these guys are set up to fail
@oel734
@oel734 10 күн бұрын
A Cup of Coffee in the NFC West? Funny how Rich neglects his time in Carolina but I guess that would destroy his "Baker Mayfield admiration society" kick he had going on here.
@BuddhaLove77
@BuddhaLove77 17 күн бұрын
Hmmmm somehow the Jets starting Sam as the youngest QB in NFL history was somehow going to help the Jets win with a poor OL, bad skill position players and mediocre coaching at best. Amazing how that didn’t work out!
@cadepierson8892
@cadepierson8892 18 күн бұрын
Andrew Luck got massively screwed over
@doniajahaan4029
@doniajahaan4029 19 күн бұрын
Burrow did, Bengals were terrible team before Joe Burrow joined them.
@tedmich
@tedmich 18 күн бұрын
Texans too before CJ!
@darrinleeedwards9
@darrinleeedwards9 18 күн бұрын
Played the last few min. Took a couple of sacks, one in RZ and a pick. I believe in Darnold though. Skol!
@suncatblue
@suncatblue 18 күн бұрын
Best case scenario: Darnold balls through week 8 and McCarthy forces his way into starting role due to readiness. Trade a starting caliber Darnold to a QB needy team for high draft picks.
@2Evil2Hope
@2Evil2Hope 18 күн бұрын
IF Sam Darnold is 'balling out' there is 0% chance they replace him with a rookie mid-season.
@justinjohnson5049
@justinjohnson5049 17 күн бұрын
Hopefully darnold plays great and jj can sit for 2 years. Then super bowl 2027
@madtownangler
@madtownangler 18 күн бұрын
Let the rookie QB sit back for a year. The Packers do it all the time. KC did it. It's not like the Vikings are gonna be any better than they did last year
@jimough2441
@jimough2441 19 күн бұрын
Darnold's time in SF has set him up to succeed. The question is can the Vikings make the best use of his talents?
@pmc1727
@pmc1727 18 күн бұрын
Not this season. The NFC North is a buzzsaw
@hitman9198
@hitman9198 18 күн бұрын
​@pmc1727 I think alot of teams in the North are massively overrated. I may be wrong
@user-yc6pt6wu7o
@user-yc6pt6wu7o 18 күн бұрын
​​@@pmc1727top 10 defense that got better Top 10 weapons on offense. Top 15 pass blocking line. The North isn't decided. There could be a lot of games traded this year. All falls on if Darnold falls apart under pressure or not on whether they are competitive.
@robe2504
@robe2504 18 күн бұрын
KOC seemed to do pretty well with Dobbs and Mullens - I'm sure he'll cope with Darnold. What KOC did with Cousins will probably look pretty good soon when the Falcons find out that they've bought a lemon.
@oel734
@oel734 10 күн бұрын
@@pmc1727 Sam Darnold in 4 games vs the Bears, Lions and Packers: 7 TDs 1 INT 942 passing yards 110.42 passer rating At least he has a history of playing well against them. Yes, he's 2-4 record-wise but remember the teams (franchises) he was on.
@lastpme
@lastpme 18 күн бұрын
Not much…keep the seat warm for 6 to 8 games before the rookie gets his shot.
@user-yc6pt6wu7o
@user-yc6pt6wu7o 18 күн бұрын
If he fails, it will be epic. Shanahan last year. KOC, McCown, and now Palmer this year. Jefferson, Addison, Tanyan, Hock, A Jones/Chandler/Aikers Top 15 pass blocking line. He's in about the best situation a qb could ask for coming in, just about ever.
@oel734
@oel734 10 күн бұрын
If he fails, he will have no one to blame but himself. Up to this point, it's been the Jets, Panthers (first season), and him not getting to start for the Niners (aside from one game). Now he's starting, has all the weapons to throw to, has the coaching. Put Up or Shut Up time, Mr. Darnold.
@user-yc6pt6wu7o
@user-yc6pt6wu7o 10 күн бұрын
@@oel734 exactly, but he hasn't been vocal. He's been shutting up this whole time. He wants it, that's for sure. I'm just worried about when he has 300 lb men chasing him.
@oel734
@oel734 10 күн бұрын
@@user-yc6pt6wu7o Well he's no Michael Vick (football-wise) but he's no David Carr either. He can more often than not run for his life and even make some plays on the run.
@user-yc6pt6wu7o
@user-yc6pt6wu7o 10 күн бұрын
@@oel734 well, if you're referencing the Jets and Panthers, you're taking his experience from the worst two teams in the league. He's had nothing but top notch coaching since where he had none from those two dumpster fires.
@natelombardo
@natelombardo 18 күн бұрын
Im sure Albert is smarter than talking about how a QB came in and played when the team was dowm 33-12.
@Andrew_M_Ward
@Andrew_M_Ward 18 күн бұрын
I lost all respect for Albert when his take on Josh Mcdaniel's coaching performance with the Raiders was all on the Raiders player level talent and not that Josh is actually not a very good head coach, it was a stupid take when he said it out loud and it's aged even worse (he's kind of a hack) he's likable and seems friendly but 50% of his "insider takes" are terrible
@robe2504
@robe2504 18 күн бұрын
Watch the game and you might see what he saw. Then watch his start vs the Rams, Then watch him finish the 2022 season with the Panthers. If you actually analyse the games instead of living on tired old Jets takes you may notice that Sam has continued to learn and develop. Don't be surprised if the Vikes start 4-0 and have all the experts back tracking.
@oel734
@oel734 10 күн бұрын
I'm sure you're smarter than talking as if you know more than Albert Geer.
@albertmolina1781
@albertmolina1781 7 күн бұрын
Drew Brees made a comeback.
@craigsiegrist6120
@craigsiegrist6120 18 күн бұрын
Hi. Gentlemen. Nice to see you !😊
@hoople0320
@hoople0320 17 күн бұрын
Sam had a ruff rookie year with the pitiful jets ....three years of crap to start his career...he is a vet now with experience ...college he had 39 tds 8 ints we need nice ball security from him and everything will be alright ....
@trentholio
@trentholio 14 күн бұрын
If Sam Darnold is the best qb on your team don't expect to win many games.
@DJWillyGMPLS
@DJWillyGMPLS 15 күн бұрын
He is just not a game day QB and with the 3 back ups there is no pressure to play McCarthy until he is ready
@tim4cn759
@tim4cn759 16 күн бұрын
I think that Sam Darnold has the ability to be a stable quarterback..and has a good scrambling ability a strong arm and the brain 🧠 to make things interesting.. he did look really good in the 49rs offensive scheme and he is going to have to learn the different ways to call koc's offense.. the 49rs and vikings offensive schemes are very similar a lot of motion.. different packages shotgun formation and now rpo.. and Jones and Akers will help take some weight off his shoulders as we need to be able to establish the run game and be more balanced than the previous two years.. we want to get Justin the ball and Addison but forcing it all the time is so predictable that I'm willing to bet that they are changing things around to become more 2 dimensional instead of 1
@Krawllll
@Krawllll 18 күн бұрын
Al needs to pony up, and buy a decent cooling system. He looks way too hot, while giving hot takes.😂
@Anthony-hu3rj
@Anthony-hu3rj 7 күн бұрын
4-13.
@take5DD
@take5DD 17 күн бұрын
JJ is soon going to find out that there's a difference between a 70% passer and a 60% passer. And he's going to realize he cannot make up the 10% even with his skills.
@joemorris2886
@joemorris2886 13 күн бұрын
Did Rich call Trump Hitler???
@IncogNegroGaming
@IncogNegroGaming 16 күн бұрын
its crazy how Darnold still gets excuses for being bad.
@oel734
@oel734 10 күн бұрын
It's crazy there are fans out there that can't see the forest from the trees. (oh hi there, fan)
@heiliger1000
@heiliger1000 19 күн бұрын
By all accounts Sam Darnold seems like a good guy and a good teammate. However he is way too inconsistent. In his last year in college he had more turnovers than anyone else in the country. I beileve one of his first pass attempts his rookie year in the NFL resulted in a pic 6. There is no reason to think it will be any different now. McCarthy will be the starter in Minnesota sooner than later this season. Darnold is a back up and nothing more.
@GaviLazan
@GaviLazan 19 күн бұрын
His first pass in a regular season NFL game was a pick 6, but then he had a pretty fantastic game bringing a W.
@Squannor
@Squannor 18 күн бұрын
I think it's safe to assume that Darnold's inconsistency is due to a lack of weapons and poor offensive lines throughout his career, rather than him as a player. And if we're going to bring up college days (which for Sam was 7 years ago) McCarthy threw for over 300 yds just once in his last season of college. In Sam's last season of college he threw for over 300 yds 8 times. Minnesota is a pass heavy offense, and to ask a rookie to effectively run an NFL caliber pass heavy offense when they were in a run heavy system in college is flat out unrealistic and unfair to the player's development. Let's not be impatient, best case Sam starts the whole year and JJ. starts next year.
@ryanbanez7926
@ryanbanez7926 18 күн бұрын
That was like 6 years ago. And if I’m not mistaken that jets team has been a mess for like 10 years plus
@matthanneman7511
@matthanneman7511 18 күн бұрын
I think it could be better for him. He focused on the fundamentals the last few winters.
@tedmich
@tedmich 18 күн бұрын
so he's Baker 2.0 an needs major seasoning and a HC to play to his strengths? Maybe!
@TheJDough1
@TheJDough1 19 күн бұрын
Expect the same thing we’ve always seen. A guy who should be good and isn’t go to another team to collect another in-due contract for millions
@johnnyledford5029
@johnnyledford5029 18 күн бұрын
The nfl is a now league who to say the vikings Owner ship going resign koc or the gm so lets be upfront about the vikings then have some good player but i wouldng be shocked if the end up being last in the nfc north so then do we resign koc and Kwesi Adofo-Mensah then have done nothing one good season running back with zimmer and traders ricks team
@nnjjee1
@nnjjee1 17 күн бұрын
Incoherent
@oel734
@oel734 10 күн бұрын
@@nnjjee1 More like "Holy Run-on sentence, batman!"
@jikan-tabi-1888
@jikan-tabi-1888 18 күн бұрын
GSmith is better than SDarnold on most Sundays. SD is a career backup at best.
@scottfisher352
@scottfisher352 18 күн бұрын
Nope
@robe2504
@robe2504 18 күн бұрын
Geno Smith took 10 years to be adequate. Sam has reached that level already. He managed to go 8-9 with the Panthers. Baker went 1-6 then won the division with the Bucs the next year, including a win over the Vikes. Bryce Young went 2-15 with the same team. Geno might be flat to win 5 or 6 games if he was playing for the Panthers. It's easy to get locked into cliched takes.
@Jiff321
@Jiff321 17 күн бұрын
Geno also is a career backup lol
@Rashomon69
@Rashomon69 11 күн бұрын
@@Jiff321- You’re right… and I’m a Geno fan.
@oel734
@oel734 10 күн бұрын
@@robe2504 Here's something else to chew on, robe : What is the Jets record without Sam at QB? Horrific, right? With Sam, they were just bad. So in that regard, Sam made chicken salad out of chicken sh-t and there was plenty of the latter that he couldn't make it totally salad.
@PAINTnPONG
@PAINTnPONG 18 күн бұрын
Kirk knows he will never be remembered for success, the only thing he has is his ability to pull money out of owner’s hands so he went wherever he would be paid most, nothing else mattered and it secures his legacy as among the most overpaid mid qb’s of all time
@jamesmerritt3267
@jamesmerritt3267 17 күн бұрын
He never had success? Look how many seasons he was a starting QB in the NFL? How many mid level QBs pass as well as him? He lead a team with nothing on defense to a division title. Not many have done that.
@karenhardie1132
@karenhardie1132 17 күн бұрын
​@jamesmerritt3267 The bar needs to be higher than one playoff win in all those years. That's not good enough. It's about winning playoffs and superbowls. Kirk fleeced the vikings. If I fail at my job, I get fired.
@lonesoldier4789
@lonesoldier4789 18 күн бұрын
This is pure delusion. Darnold is a backup tier QB.
@PJ-fc2hf
@PJ-fc2hf 16 күн бұрын
You’re the one who’s delusional. Situations matter in the NFL. If Albert Breer would’ve talked like this about Geno Smith two years ago, I guarantee you would have the same sentiment. Sam Darnold finally has a team around him and he will surprise many people this year with his play.
@oel734
@oel734 10 күн бұрын
Well we're going to find out now that the excuses being made for him are gone. He has weapons surrounding him and he has Coaching. And HE'S STARTING (which is the most important) unlike in San Francisco. If he still fails, you can go right ahead and pat yourself on the back there, bud. But I don't think he will fail and will re-establish himself as a Starting QB in this league.
@PJ-fc2hf
@PJ-fc2hf 9 күн бұрын
Well said, man. This is how I feel as well. Darnold went number 3 in the 2018 NFL draft for a reason. This dude has great arm talent and is very mobile as well. If people would’ve said that Geno Smith would have a breakout year two years ago, they would’ve been called crazy. Heck, if people would’ve said that Baker Mayfield would have a great year last year, some people would’ve called that statement obnoxious as well. After all, NFL is full of surprises every year. And I’m willing to bet that Sam Darnold will be the great surprise this year with his great play this upcoming season. I think Sam Darnold plays so well with the Vikings that he might become a pro bowler this season and potentially become the Vikings starters for years to come. Obviously the Vikings have JJ McCarthy, who I believe will get traded in a year or two.
@andrewbird57
@andrewbird57 18 күн бұрын
Sam Darnold will have a long career in the NFL as a back up. But he will never be a starting caliber QB for a team that has playoff ambitions. Sorry Vikes fans, I see a 5-7 win season this transition year, battling the Bears for last place in the NFC North.
@robe2504
@robe2504 18 күн бұрын
Don't be sorry. We're very happy to take the +800 division odds.
@drbenway4
@drbenway4 18 күн бұрын
Bears are going to playoffs. Leaving the Vikqueens last. Wait to till you realize Cousins made KOC and not the other way around...🤣🤣🤣
@oel734
@oel734 10 күн бұрын
@@drbenway4 Now THIS is pure Delusion. Falcons are going to find out they signed a Lemon. 😏
@martyenglishiii5099
@martyenglishiii5099 17 күн бұрын
Sam Darnold = Last place!
@karenhardie1132
@karenhardie1132 17 күн бұрын
Sam is a vet. He had a few crappy teams. He learned a lot in SF when he was on a good team. Let JJ sit and learn. Look at the success GB has had. Don't throw JJ in too quickly.
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