another thing is that community servers are full of tf2 veterans so if that is the only safe option from bots then you better clim the tf3 skill curve real fast.

"Someday, this will all be a bad memory." ~Half Life 2 citizen

Quite funny how the class that "heals people" Is trying to revive the almost unplayable game, Good for them.

please let people know about this terrible issue this game has had to workaround, it breaks my heart to know that a small dev team can't do anything about the bot issue and we the players have to direct them in the right direction to where they can fully experience the game without it being ruined by bots..

6:25 Fun fact: That "Outdated UI" was actually what kept the Bots controlled prior to meet your match, as the UI forced the bots to have to pick through a list.

Nice to see a calm and collective explanation of the situation. Refreshing from "VALVE HATES US AND THIS GAME! MASS EMAIL THEM TO FIX THE PROBLEM!" Glad to see there are still people in this community that believe calmer heads will prevail. Also. HOLY SHIT THAT WAS THE SNIPER VA!

With all these people calling out to Valve like this, there is still hope. This video was perfectly worded to explain the situation and help others understand the issue at hand. Thank you

I feel really disappointed that I missed out on many of the main events as I joined very late (March 2021) and I am also 15 so I couldn't do much anyways. I feel like I just joined a party only to realize that everyone is already leaving.

Feels weird that the last major update will be 5 years old this October

4:14 Chat: Valve doesn't care about you but I care about you. What a nice guy.

The server browser is even older than that! It's essentially the same as the one from Half-Life

I got into TF2 in 2012, sadly after that they started to kinda neglect slowly Screamfortress, but on the bright aide they shortly after did a lot of cool stuff for both balance and story with the comic… and what about now 10 years later? it feels abandoned, scratch that, is abandoned,thrown to the side just to focus on 2 competitive games and Steam, sigh…that Christmas update gave us so much hope that now is just as dead as the dev team is, how did one of my favorite games for relaxing (not ever having to strictly play seriously as I could just dance around and make a server friendly, till a ubercharged soldier destroys the friendly zone and we go into a war) became a bot fest where I cant get out of the spawn zone without being snipped, other players cheat blatantly, there is song spam and so many more wrong things? , I miss how the game was before with the map only changing after the time was done and you could chose any map easily, tryharding and then just being friendly, achivement hunting, looking forward for the next comic, why did this game had to…die

I like the server browser, my only complaint is the disgusting scaling on larger resolutions. Feels like I need a magnifying glass to read.

I'm a veteran. I've been playing Team Fortress 2 since October 18th, 2007. My Grizzled Veteran proves it. I have never been so saddened by the state of a videogame and the company's neglect for it in my life. I can't summon the words to describe it, after all that I have seen of this game. Every period of time. The disaster that Meet Your Match was. It's just...so depressing that it's now sadness and vitriol bottled up between MvM toxicity and a casual that can't make up its goddamn mind on supporting the game or not. If you're not playing community, you just aren't playing, or you're playing painfully. And the company doesn't care. Because they're still getting their paycheck.

Valve deserves every last bit of negative press over this. It's also great that youtubers, "news" outlets, and thousands of people are voicing their aggravation towards the bot problem. Only problem is- Valve has zero incentive to fix TF2, other than earning the respect of their consumers. TF2 is a semi-annual hands-off money printer. They put in zero nearly work for millions of dollars a year via micro-transactions. Since corporations care more about profits than consumer respect, we can expect nothing to change. SO, if you REALLY want Valve to listen, hurt their bottom line- revenue. Stop opening cases, stop using the Mann Co Store, the community market, etc. Use 3rd party sites for items so Valve doesn't see a dime. They no longer earn my money, nor yours. Being vocal won't change anything.

Then aside from the bots overrunning casual, the rest of the game is broken. Many of the upgrades on MVM aren't balanced or are so broken they're useless. I love training mode, it's good to get away from the bots and practice, but the training mode bots get stuck. too frequently. Then there's a limited amount of maps to choose from. All the little weapon glitches, updating things like the menu, and poor quality updates, makes this game old. It's worse that the community has to do SO MUCH just to make it worth anything. It makes me wonder how playable the game will even be 5 years from now, if I can't even play training mode alone. The art style saves it from looking old but its functionality is embarrassing, especially compared to Portal and L4D.

Reminder: Team Fortress 2 Classic was killed off by Valve due to radio silence about copyright issues about a year ago now and was superior in every way to TF2. Valve needs to pay more attention!

3:43 that scout ragdoll omfg xD

Hey, so I'm brazilian and I have to say that there are literally no bots in brazilian servers. I play on the casual queue and at most I'd find a single bot every like 10 or so matches, which would quickly get kicked before having a massive impact on the game

can we stop for a second and admire the heavy at 8:17?

Team Fortress 2 Classic has been for many months my favorite way of playing TF2. The only reason its still playable at all is that Valve's legal teams (mercifully) did NOT totally DMCA and C&D the project, but the treatment they've shown instead is nearly as bad. Requesting official download links to be taken down until an unspecified date and opaque agreement is made between the modders and Valve is, in essence, a slow and agonizing death sentence. Its a miracle it has a dedicated player base at all, and even more miraculous that occasionally new players can figure out how to play. It's been multiple months and there has been zero communication from Valve. It's fucking embarrassing, frankly.

A fast way to make a big impact is to stop putting money into the game. Yes, it will be hard for those with money burning in their wallet, but it will make a impact.

I joined in 2020. I grew up watching all sorts of tf2 videos when I was younger, and I was super excited to finally play when I got a PC to call my own. But when I got tf2, I soon realised that lots of folks were essentially packing up, and I was too late. I never really got to play that game that I dreamed of playing for so long. I wish I was able to play sooner, to play the tf2 I grew up watching, but I was too late...

8:25 when tf2 calls for medic and the medic actually comes to heal it

My jaw dropped when I heard that 2017 was 5 years ago

3:43 I'm not the only one that saw that scout ragdoll shoot across the floor, right?

This is a perfect TL;DR of the bot issue.

3:42 WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT SCOUT

That set of rhymes at the very beginning of the video is gold

6:20 To be honest, I like this server list UI. On some games with multiplayer (Minecraft, Terraria) you cannot even search up servers, you have to look up servers and then PUT in the IP address to the server. It's not great, but it's better than some server systems I've seen, and to be honest, I like it for nostalgia reasons. I remember playing HL2: Deathmatch and using this UI.

Elegantly worded, my friend. Here's to hoping that, some day soon now, Valve will finally acknowledge the issues.

One thing i learned with sniper bots is that when you have that slight line of viability, its possible to crouch and miss the bots shot, giving you an opportunity to fight back- but not much of one

1:59 Nice flying pyro in right side

Good video. Also 8:18 that heavy is just chilling, angrily.

That screenshot you showed right when you say "timeless gameplay" floored me. That was hilarious. Perfect portrayal of the game.

If Valve pulled the plug on TF2, people who have spent THOUSANDS of dollars on cosmetics are going to be extremely unhappy

I have seen some bots on Russian 2fort community servers. One time there was only one bot, and the other time it was something like a raid. I came to the game half a year ago, I talked a lot with old players and they say that it makes no sense to go into casual because of bots. Even though I haven't seen everything that's been happening these 15 years, I really like TF2. I want to believe that everything will be fine and the game will continue to live. #savetf2

One way Valve can fix the bot crisis (or attempt to) is to just sue the bot makers up the butt. It shouldn't be too hard to find them either since they openly say "hey! Pay $20 for a Tf2 bot!"

3:43 that scout is on several gallons of bonk

very well done video, i will use this video as a way to teach my friends about this situations (if they show interest)

I disagree that they should pull the plug if they aren't going to address this. I would very much miss it, even in this broken state.

Thank you for another awesome video!

did... did crates in TF2 make HL3 a "nevermind, we have money" project that got lost? this is a lot of history, good job!

I've been saying this for a while so at this point so I've resorted to copy pasting my suggestions in hope that maybe they gain some traction. My goal is for the simplest and easiest(for lazy valve) and least obtrusive(for players) solutions for everyone(but bot hosters) involved. 1. Remove matchmaking from casual and return to the quickplay server indexer. Even community servers can benefit from this as as long as they conform to vanilla standards i.e. random crits and bullet spread on and stock maps, they show up in the index results and get traffic. 2. Create a soft reporting system for bots specifically that with enough reports places a block on accounts joining servers without solving a quick captia on a popup page on a website hosted by valve. This way even if bots hosters try to abuse the system by mass flagging legitimate users the worst that happens is you have to go through a few quick clicks or typing to join a server and the bot hosters get bogged down trying to get bots into matches on top of not having a matchmaking system to automatically funnel them into servers with players to harass. 3. Lower sniper's base headshot damage from 150 to say 100 or 75 while keeping his maximum charge headshot damage at 450 so sniper actually has to slow down and be vulnerable before being lethal to key classes that are supposed to be his counters ( _Spy_ ). Also increase his rifles total charge time so hoards of sniper bots also aren't a huge menace and sniper fits more inline with his 'patient assassin picking key targets' archetype. If you've kept reading to here, thanks 👍 u a real G. I hope even some of these or similar solutions are implemented so we can keep enjoying TF2.

It's crazy that the last proper update we had was Jungle Inferno... five years ago.

I wonder if Valve could give the community TF2, like since they aren't working on it let the people who want to work on it work, now Valve could still get money from it but parts of the community who work on it could also get a cut, though this would probably not happen it would be a win win. (If serious parts of the TF2 community gain some type of access to the game.)

Commenting for the algorithm, but I'm looking forward to this thank you so much guys!

yoo nice that the sniper va was at the end. didnt expect that ngl.

That outro song made me feel so many emotions at once.

Thank you for this video!

Ya know, a part of me fears the worst, that once we do get valves attention they will just flat out announce cutting all support for TF2 and officially kill off the game for good.

6:22 correction that ui's roots date back to QuakeWorld (released in 1997 but the ui's were likely initially from 1996 or earlier) and was only really updated by valve to have better mouse navigation as it was originally for arrow key and tab navigation. Classic Valve, never changes. They even STILL use part of Quake's code in Source 2 for timing flickering lights.

amazing video😤

holy shit, an actual meaningful video, great work richter

8:17 amazing deathcam

speaking of hats, i love how their guidelines used to be that you must be able to recognize someone by the silhouette. now that's practically impossible.

I play casual now and I barely see any bots.

this video will be really helpful for anyone who not part of the tf2 community . good work .

was looking at the kill-feed and recognized so many players

Amazing video! Well put. 🙏 #SaveTF2

Victim of the Moon outro? Hell yeah.

I kept thinking that after the drop of the Steam Deck and it's bundled Portal-universe game that we would see some more activity from Valve, hopefully in the fields of Half-Life and Portal, but seeing the game Team Fortress 2(which I don't play) getting fixed would rock.

Amazing! A year later and nothing has changed

Mic seemed to be going up and down in volume input. Might wanna check that next time.

It's sad how I quit this game in 2017, due to how I couldn't handle the community since I never like experience I have from some of the players I encountered from different Community server though, but of course I came back to this game in 2022 just to try to have fun playing team fortress 2 again by just playing on the casual mode but only To see how that mode is unplayable! because of the bots which I find it sad I return back to team fortress 2 but only to come to this mess..

3:42 are we gonna ignore the scout that just went flying?

What saddens me is the fact that this was 2 years ago and still a problem now

3:43 That scout scared the hell out of me

we all blamed tyler mcvicker and then he tried to clear his name but it's still pretty much his fault for having someone that volatile as well his fault for open fortress and tf2c being (temporarily™) taken down since he gave them the source code which they never got permission to use.

Crazy how watching this 18 months later, it's received some big updates and the playerbase has boomed up to over 100k daily

3:43 nobody talking about that scout...

1:05 what in gods name is this soldier corpse doing

Honestly it kinda surprised me, I was wanting to play TF2 for years and when I finally could, the game had already entered a phase of war against the bots (basically right before the whole crisis started) Edit: training mode and MvM (from last time i played MvM) are safe to use, with no bots in sight, besides MvMs enemy being bots and training mode being filled only by bots (which can be edited to your liking)

"TF2 community, we hear you! We love this game and know you do, too. We see how large this issue has become and are working to improve things.” -May 2022 :)

3:43 I like how he gives no care about scout's dead body

0:25: "The TF2 Casual Experiance : spy gex" i feel him.

Man 2017 was 5 years ago

One year later and still Valve has done nada, zilch, zero to fix the bot problem

Been playing TF2 on the Steam Deck and I'm happy to say that I haven't run into any bot problems! IDK if Valve just silently took care of the issue or if I've just been insanely lucky, but either way I'm glad.

2 years. 2 fuckin years ago

When the Payday 2 Twitter account said Wakeup or whatever he said some people made jokes about a Payday 2 Heavy update heist, where the gang has to make someone release the update

what's the outro music

alas 1 year later and the sniper spinning bots are still in 9/10 lobbies

Also client disconnect, a bug which makes it really hard to join community servers, which kicks you before you even join for no reason

I like to think this is the sequel of MvM

Patch Notes: Removed "Constantly Updated" from the game's description Updated localization files

hahahahahah i love the ragdolls and your sorta professional tone

What mod is he using to make the ragdolls like that?

For anyone looking for a really good TF2 experience, I have had an absolute whale of a time with the Team Fortress 2 Classic mod. It was modelled around TF2 circa 2009 (which most people consider the golden era), ran much smoother, the combat was much more balanced, and IMO it even looked better than modern TF2 currently does. I still play the last release that they put out before Valve told the devs to remove the downloads in about September 2021, and there are still a decent number of people on the servers. Rumour has it that if you can find anywhere online that claims to act as a, well, archive of the internet, then it might be worth some digging.

Bro you showed the leaderboard thing with the bot names at 4:11 and seeing OMEGATRONIC gave me flashbacks

That happened to me 5-6 days ago, Had two bot snipers where no matter where you were in the map they would kill you instantly, It was on the frontier map.

Is this THE Richter Overtime?

Is a good summary

we need a future where "finally its here" is the only reply you can find, all comments 500 replies instantly

I remember I tried tf2 a while back for lot's only to have someone mid-match change their name and profile picture to mine on the other team. I dipped out so fast and never touching tf2 again

Good video

I've been playing since 2013, and it's just sad to see all this stuff happening to it. Sure I don't have too many hours, around 500, but the game is still my favorite today. And no matter what happens, I don't think I'll ever stop. I'm hoping all this stuff online about the bots will push valve to get off their asses and finally do something.

It's still happening today

3:43 Don't mind me, just passing by.