I agree. Thanks for watching.

Did you go regular 365 Wilson grip or the 365xl grip ?

@@TheReal_FJB Regular 365. I don't own the XL model.

@@ptortland he’s asking because the the XL grip module works on the standard 365. The problem is your mags won’t work. That’s the dilemma I’ve had. I don’t want to buy new mags but I think I’d prefer the bigger grip module.

@@jagpilotohio thank you for this comment. I was kinda confused if the Wilson p365 x/xl will fit my standard p365. Now I need to figure out the holster will fit the Wilson module.

As always, thank you for watching.

That's the nerd in me. Thanks for watching and commenting.

Tommy, if you love the Wilson P320 grip, I'm sure you'll be happy with the P365 grip. Thanks for watching.

Thank you for watching and commenting.

@@RidersRange what base plates are those ? Looks great

Norm, we live in great times where everyone is bound to find something what works best for them. The days of one-size-fits-all are gone (except for government programs 😢). Thanks for watching.

I just ordered the Tactical Development mag bases that will go perfectly with the Wilson grip module. Thanks for watching.

Thanks for watching and adding your thoughts.

Thank you for watching and commenting.

I'm guessing it was a struggle to get the Hogue on the Wilson grip module.

@@RidersRange I thought it would be brutal, but it really wasn't. It was simply a question of stretching it just a little bit on one side and scooting it up a millimeter, then alternating and doing the same on the other side, until it touched up on the beavertail. It took me perhaps three to five minutes, and required only a moderate amount of patience. The only thing I had to be careful of is either edge of the magwell, which are a little bit sharp, so I made sure I stretch the rubber over that first. I know the Wilson grip is bigger and has a little bit more texturing, but I honestly had no more difficulty than putting it on the factory grip.

@@RidersRange kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7Fjfrqju767ioE.html

Jeff, thanks for watching.

I may have to look into the ZEV mag release. Thanks.

I'll have to look into those. Thanks for watching and commenting.

I'm considering one for my regular 365, also. Thanks for watching.

Thanks for watching.

I haven't seen the grip modules in any gun store, so I ordered directly from Wilson.

Good points. Thanks for watching and commenting.

The AC extended mag release is on my list to get. Thanks for the info on the MagGuts internals. And thanks for watching.

The Wilson module is a compromise between the girth of the original grip and the Hogue HandAll. I put several mags of ammo through it the other day and I really like the texture and how it handles overall. Thanks for watching.

I agree. Thanks for watching.

Thanks for the suggestion. I never heard of that company, but I looked them up and the mag release looks promising. Too bad they are out of stock.

I had the Hogue HandAll sleeve on both my P365 and the XL. While the Wilson grip is a tad smaller than the Hogue, I like the feel a little better.

I should add up all the comments where a viewer said they were going to buy the grip module, then send a bill to Wilson. Thanks for watching and commenting.

The P365 is a good choice for concealed carry, but remember, your little finger is very important for recoil control. Pretty hard to do with the flush mag.

Thanks for watching and commenting. The "rail" on the P365XL is proprietary, so I'm just guessing that Wilson has an agreement with Sig to not change that part of the grip module.

JB, I took it to my local range and put 100 rounds through the gun. A couple of the store employees shot it, also. We all concluded that it fits the hand better and feels better than the stock grip when shooting. I have not committed to a range review - so many guns, so little time - but I added it to my list of possibilities this spring. Thanks for watching.

@@RidersRange Awesome! Thanks for the update. Ordering one for myself. BR

The 365 upper on the 365XL grip module makes the new P365X. Thanks for watching.

Thank you for watching.

Thanks for watching and adding your thoughts. It was difficult to get the Hogue on my 365XL grip, so I can only imagine how hard it would be to get it on the Wilson grip. After putting 54 rounds through mine, I'm happy with it as is.

Thanks for watching.

Thank you for watching and for the kind voice comparison to the late Paul Harvey.

I just checked the Wilson website again and they still don't list the tan grip for either the 365 or the XL with the manual safety - black only.

The mag bases for the Wilson grip are from Tactical Development.

Thank you for watching. I hope I adequately covered the important points.

I may look into that. Thanks for the suggestion.

Glad you like it.

Wayne, as always, thank you for watching and commenting. And Walther is one of the many brands I haven't added to the stable - yet.

Yes indeed.

Not difficult. Thanks for watching.

That's the purpose, but in a properly designed holster, inadvertent mag release isn't a problem.

Bill, they list the weights for the regular 365 only, not the XL, and they are out of stock. My trigger is Armory Craft, so I'll have to check them out for weights.

I like Armory Craft products, so I'll have to look into the mag release. Thanks for the tip, and thanks for watching.

I have the mag pinky extension they make. love them.

You wouldn't remember me, but I worked at MPEC, but I remember you!

It's been a LONG time since I was in there. I was saddened to learn of Bill's passing a couple years ago.

Thanks for watching and commenting. I have both and I prefer the P365XL over the Shield plus, but that's just my preference. Your preference may differ.

Wilson just announced the P365.365XL grip module a little more than a week ago. The trigger is Armory Craft. As always, thanks for watching.

I shoot with a real high grip and I don't notice the right side safety pushing into my hand at all with the Wilson grip module.

Chris, that may be why Wilson didn't offer an extended mag release. Thanks for watching.

The mag release that is included with the Wilson grip module is a Sig factory item, so any extended mag release from Sig, Armory Craft, GrayGuns, etc., should work.

Ah nevermind, just watched another video of yours that explained things. Staccato, Wilson EDC, etc. Would love to carry something like that but they're a bit out of my price range (looking for 1k and under). Anyway, great channel you have and keep up the good work!

Looks like I don't need to answer this, as you already did. Thanks for watching.

The mag baseplates are from Tactical Development.

Richard, that's an Armory Craft trigger. It only replaces the stock Sig trigger, not the trigger mechanism, so it doesn't lighten the pull, but I think it does feel better.

You are living proof of the formula "N+1".

@@RidersRange you have to keep looking for perfection, till you can't look any longer...lol

I want a standard module too .if the price isn’t too high on this one it looks good. Before seeing these was thinking about an exclusive slightly darker brown replacement offered by optics planet .try the contrasting colors look. & maybe even give stippling a shot on one of them. Both if it turned out to be a good thing. Honestly like the xl as is -stock.4-5 00 rounds through it right from the box with no cleaning other than wipe downs with remoil on a rag & dry toothbrush on sights & whatever I can reach easily without breaking it down. Did the same with a little LCP 22 light rack. Put a brick of old mini mags through it. Didn’t have any problems. Maybe five ammo related failure to fire. Darn good for rimfire.. Sig intended these guns to constantly scream for more. The money train must keep rolling! I get it. Poor little Ruger never made a peep. So of course I completely disassembled it and replaced the guide rod with a stainless steel and upgraded the main pin that holds the gun together that wasn’t necessary(380s.. necessary.. at least the pin) but better is better. Right.?. Could’ve been done with it at that point but couldn’t help myself. I had to have the replacement trigger that does away with the magazine disconnect on that pistol. The trigger itself was just fine, disconnects are a pain in the butt. Can’t stand them. On a rimfire especially.I couldn’t find my punches so since the back ordered Traeger was finally in the mailbox,I went at it with an old drill bit I should’ve been patient and gotten my tools. For some reason the trigger came un assembled. I did request and un anodized one , That’s why is my guess.To make a long story short, everything was going pretty good but mainly because of the unassembled trigger that I needed my tools to do properly, I messed up a roll pin, possibly damaged the trigger, attempted to align the soon to be damaged roll pin with a paper clip that was in arms reach. Which promptly broke off inside of the role pin. Have some new pins and everything is bagged and tagged but it’s in a cigar box and I haven’t shot it sense that evening. Learned a lesson. if a product comes in the mail in pieces that should be one completed unit , small pieces and springs with no directions and you don’t know what you’re doing, Stop and pick up the phone and get a replacement or something.Better yet just don’t start any job that is unfamiliar to you at 11 PM after a long day . But if you must, at the very least,have the right tools. Got the XL the next day. Unplanned, 2 had just come off the truck. I’ll get back to the LCPll soon. As a matter of fact I’m going to call them now and ask about that trigger and tell him what happened. Maybe they’ll send me another one. Or something.?.If not the other one I have is fixable. Never made a kydex holster before. The 22 is So small it’s going to be riding in a OWB with 4 spare mags. 51 mini mags on tap . ulti clips.xl ‘smaybe. Quick on and off and good for romping around in the woods, canoeing etc. grab it and go. Back to the Sig. don’t care for IWB very much. I believe the standard grip long slide version 365 Will be quite a bit better strongside or a little further back.10ish degree cant leather pancake. Not too bad as is and maybe I should give IWB a chance with such a small pistol. Holsters ughhh. Anyhow enjoy. I’m going outback to shoot a couple mags r now. It’s been a while and thinking about that 22 upset me a little bit. Need to knock the edge off a little and get my fix. Be safe

Thanks for watching.

I am in your same situation and was wondering the same thing myself.

@@samprizzi1159 Hey I found a video with the manual safety. It's the same process, but here in the link to the video since you are in the same situation as well. Hope it helps! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bNtifLKItN-xY6s.html&ab_channel=AZTrigger

@matt32 and @Sam Prizzi, you convinced me - I'll order one for my other P365 and do a video on the swap. Stay tuned. Edit: I just ordered one, but they are backordered. Keep watching.

Being mentioned in the same sentence with the great Massad Ayoob is one of the highest compliments. Thank you for watching.

The OEM mags will fit, but there will be a gap at the rear of the baseplate/grip area. I highly recommend a mag baseplate that is designed to go with the Wilson grip module.

@@RidersRange Thank you very much for getting back to me. What do You think would be the best Base Plate to go with the Wilson Combat Grip?

Tactical Development now has mag base plates specifically designed for the Wilson grip module. I just ordered a few. Thanks for watching.

@@RidersRange Well... that was fast. Only FDE left - no black. I'll check back. I have their 'old' style base bads for 12 and 15 round sig 365XL mags. They're excellent and the 12 round pads look great with the WC grips.

I ordered two of the TD mag bases for the Wilson grip in black and one in FDE for my 15-round mag - only because I wanted one and they didn't have black in stock. They should be here in a couple days.

@@RidersRange Thx, will do.

This was listed as out of stock when I ordered it from Wilson, but it showed up less than a week after I placed the order.

I haven't tried the Hogue grip over the Wilson grip module. Getting it on the standard grip was tough enough. I can only imagine the frustration I'd go through if I tried to put it on the larger Wilson grip frame.

Thank you for watching and subscribing.

I don't notice any difference with access to the safety with either grip module.

The grip module for the 9mm and .380 are the same. Only the mags and the slide are different.

@@RidersRange sweet thanks! Thinking about getting the regular P365 then getting a WC XL grip, so I can switch between them 😁

@@phukka_feelings I built a .380 XL for my wife. She loves it! Was able to locate and purchase 12 round mags as well. Great little shooter.

I have and I like contour and the fact they are billet aluminum, but at $250 to $275, I haven't found a way to justify the cost. And right now they are sold out for the P365XL, plus a 4-12 week lead time for modules for the XL with a manual safety.

I haven't measured the Hellcat. I don't own one, but I I have a friend who does. I'll try to remember to measure his next time he comes over.

@@RidersRange thank you..I own one. I can measure it. I thought since you had measured the sig, maybe you had compared the two and I missed it. I guess I was being lazy..lol. thanks for all you do. To me the hellcat fits my hand better. I am looking forward to the Wilson frame coming in. Thanks again.

The fit the stock mags, but the baseplates should be replaced to better fit the grip contours. Tactical Development makes mag base plates - regular and extended - to fit the Wilson grip.

@@RidersRange does that include the 15 round extended i use with my xl?

No. Ships to your house. Serial number is on the fire control unit.

The Wilson grip module doesn't come with any parts other than the mag release.

I think it's only a 3 part kit to add the safety comprised of a spring, pin, and the ambi safety switch. I thought the cost was less than $30 (my guess). I purchased my 365x with safety because there is no trigger safety like the Shield Plus has.

@@emblems4life726 I ended up ordering the manual thumb saftey parts separately, it was pretty much plug and play

The Wilson grip module for the P365XL measures 1.18" at the widest point of the gripping surface and 1.197" at the magwell. That is a hair wider than the factory grip, but it isn't any more noticeable when carrying concealed.

The regular P365 mags won't work in the XL grip. However, the stock XL mags work just fine, though a new baseplate makes it look and feel a little better.

@@RidersRangewhat pinky extension base plate are you using on your 365xl magazine in the video?

Get tactical development mag bases to get you 365 mags to work with xl

I like the Icarus Precision module because it's made out of aluminum, not polymer, but at almost $300, buying one is not in the cards for me.

The Wilson grip module doesn't fill my hand quite as well as the Hogue HandAll, but to me, the Wilson feels better when shooting.

Any mags that fit in a standard 365 or 365XL frame should also work in a Wilson grip module.

@@RidersRange ok thank you for the information and the response

Javora Tree, thank you for watching and adding your thoughts. You may want to pass your thoughts on to Wilson. If you select your grip module and scroll down to the bottom of the page, there is a place where you can leave a review.

Update: Having taking it to the range, I can say that it shoots better than the original Sig grip. Pleasantly surprised by this as I was ready to sell it. Still believe that the WCXL is vastly inferior to the Walther PPS. There is a lot more that Wilson Combat should have done. But it works well enough for now until I can find something else.

That's the 12-round mag with a Tactical Development base plate.

@@RidersRange thank you!

Let us know how you like after you shoot it.

I didn't get the weights, but I'm very happy with how it shoots without the extra weight.

I've been checking the Armory Craft website periodically and the safety has always been pending. I just now checked and I see the black nitride one is now shipping. Looks like I need to get one.

Thanks. I put 54 rounds through it this evening and I'm very happy with the grip.

@@RidersRange Glad to hear that the performance was good! Looks are nice, but a product needs to perform. Thanks.

That’s an Armory Craft trigger.

12 & 15 rd mags work perfectly

Again, as @Fighting Solves Everything replied, the standard 12 and 15-round mags work just fine in the 365XL module.

@@RidersRange I have the standard p365 not the XL

@Wayne Kelly, I was looking at possibly the same issue. I have the standard p365 (tac pac), which came with three 12 rd. magazines. I noticed you can remove the sleeve of the 12 rd. magazine therefore making it so you can use them in the XL frame module. However, I believe I am going to have to purchase new baseplates (extended). I don't think I'll be able to reliably insert the magazines in the WC XL frame without this modification. I hope this helps anybody out there wondering.

Hmm...I'l have to go back and look at that. I guess that's one of the disadvantages of working off notes, rather than a script. Thanks for letting me know.

You can order new magazine releases now for them

The Hogue "grip" is just a rubber sleeve, which fits over the stock grip, there is no Hogue grip. Maybe you meant the stock grip vs. Wilson ?

I haven't made a shooting video since changing the grip. However, I need to do one since I just added a Wilson grip to my original P365. Maybe later this summer.

I use the Sig 12-round mags and base plates from Tactical Development that are a better fit for the Wilson grip module.

@@RidersRange thanks!!

That's a Holosun 507K.

thanks,

@@RidersRange not just any 507K, but the first version with big buttons. Not easy to find now.

Feels great, also. Thanks for watching.

That's an Armory Craft trigger, though I didn't change any of the internals, so it's still a little "spongy".

The mag baseplate is from Tactical Development.

I bought pinky extension plates from Armory Craft for my 10/12 round mags. Perfect for me big hands and Hogue grip.

Hey Guys thanks for the leads. I ended up getting a mag extention from Tactical Development. They didn't have any black available so that's a little wonky. I ordered a grip module from Wilson even though they say sold out. I ordered it this past week and received notification yesterday that it's due to be delivered this Friday.

@@jeffreymelber9582 you should've gotten the baseplate from MagGuts. I think it looks better than the TD version, plus it comes with a replacement spring and follower that turns your 12 round magazine into a 14 rounder that is easier to load.

I installed the Wilson grip today. It fits real nice it's a tighter fit than the stock and the grip is slightly larger. It feels real good. Haven't shot it yet. So far very nice and a little more aggressive stippling. Mine did not come with a mag release.

The trigger is the "slightly curved" trigger from Armory Craft.

I use the stock Sig P365XL mags, but changed the base plates for Tactical Development bases that are designed to work better with the Wilson grip module.

The trigger is by Armory Craft and the mag bases are Tactical Development.

@@RidersRange Is there any utility of the AC trigger or is it for aesthetics?

Mike, those are good points. For me, the Wilson grip module was entirely worth the cost. But you are right, you could buy three boxes of 9mm for about the same price.

Jimmy, those are from Tactical Development.

Oh ok I use his base pads as well thank you sir

Tactical Development.

@@RidersRange ty vm

My guess is that Sig required their rail. However, there are many lights that will work on that grip module, with a list on the Wilson website.

I'm guessing Sig wouldn't let Wilson make any changes to their proprietary rail.

I think I just answered on your reply to another comment. Tactical Development.

@@RidersRange thanks!

So far, everyone who has shot the 365 side-by-side with the original grip module and the Wilson module has preferred the Wilson. That slight additional grip circumference and contour does make a difference in "shootability" without detracting from concealability. Thanks for watching.

@@RidersRange thanks for that reply, that I think seals the deal for me. Going to order one as soon as I can 😀

supposedly hickock45uses the 365 or 365xl as his carry. the reason i went with it was due to large hands like his. out of the box i can smack at 21 feet with iron sights. i push it back 9 more feet to 10 yards and my groupings fall apart. decided old eyes plus target acquisition, went to holosun and it seems to be getting me out there better, need more rounds. i hope the wilson doesnt give me a problem bringing the red dot over....good vid, like the preso, i liked and subscribed to this channel

@Tom Ubl so, I have to say after having the wilson combat grip for a few months, it's NIGHT AND DAY difference in how much better it is over the factory grip. I went XL grip on my regular 365 slide, and it's incredible. No more snappy feel, I can drill the target at 30 feet now. I do plan on adding a dot sight on there this spring, I enjoy the speed of a red dot on my g19. The grip, even though XL size, also doesn't print any more than the regular frame did. Solid win with the Wilson frame. Especially for 60 ish bucks. 1000% recommend