Taking the Sudbury-White River train, the last of the Rail Diesel Cars in Canada, into the back-country east of Lake Superior. A How-To video. www.hadfield.ca Song: "The Budd Car" (c)2003 by Dave Hadfield
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@sbirnstiel2 жыл бұрын
This is sooo cool, absolutely love this! Thank you for sharing! Just got into winter camping this season and now can't wait for next season.
@PineMartyn2 жыл бұрын
I first heard about this about a decade and a half ago in the winter camping section of the Canadian Canoe Routes forum and later on Hoop's Winter Trekking forum, but this video is the clearest description of the logistics I have come across. Great job and thank you for making this video. Cheers, - Martin
@vmitchinson Жыл бұрын
Now I understand. In the 60s when I lived in a small village in Alberta we had passenger service by a "rail liner". It was also called "day liner". Now the trains are no more and the tracks have been removed.
@cryorig_transit052 ай бұрын
It's a shame they're removed, it should've stayed
@billblair39412 ай бұрын
I first started working for the CPR in 1968 on The Canadian. The train used the same route as the Budd car but unfortunately it didn't stop if you wanted to get off like the Budd. The train continued on to Thunder Bay and part of the route was on the north shore of Lake Superior which was spectacular.
@therandomytchannel43182 жыл бұрын
I used to take those Budd RDC when Via had "high speed" service from Edmonton to Calgary, speeding along at 75 Mph, good times and great memories!
@user-kp2rr8xf7x10 күн бұрын
I grew up in Sudbury and always thought of it as Northern Ontario until I once worked as a relief telegrapher on Canadian Pacific Railway in the mid 50's between Sudbury to White River. What a wilderness, how remote, how eye opening. Back then, the only way in or out was to arrange in advance with the train dispatchers for a freight train pickup or drop off with a caboose. Then BUDD was introduced and although it was a midget compared to the mighty big freight trains at least it would toddle along like a toonerville trolley and do pick ups and stops. I never forgot the vast wilderness north and west of Sudbury and grew to appreciate just how big and vast the province of Ontario was and is. It's 2/12 times the size of France.
@forrestphoenix3182 жыл бұрын
I am going to do this one day. Thanks for the video. Riding into the wilderness on a train to go camping, seems too good to be true.
@alcopower57102 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely amazing……..never knew this existed. Thanks for sharing 👍
@gcorriveau68644 ай бұрын
Our last passenger service on Vancouver Island was with the Budd Cars ... sadly - no more. It's great to see this service is still operating. Thanks for posting this, Dave. Cheers!
@davehadfield59064 ай бұрын
My pleasure Grant! Hope all is well.
@suddenlysolo21702 ай бұрын
I used to ride from Courtenay to Duncan every week back in the early 90's
@James_Knott2 ай бұрын
I rode on that train once. Even though I was a CN employee the CP conductor still honoured my pass
@mattymieds2 жыл бұрын
We missed the return train back in 2016...the train was actually on time! We were able to flag down a couple on a service road in Bisco and 8 hours later after getting the truck from Sudbury we were heading home :) I hope this train doesn't stop running when my kids are older.
@A350flyernyc Жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to do this someday. Canada has some excellent trains, from the mighty Canadian to the Budd Car! It would be so cool to ride this into the wilderness and see views of the night sky that you just can’t get where I am.
@coastaku1954Күн бұрын
Canada doesn't have excellent trains. The Corridor is the only place where trains are somewhat useful but their frequencies and timeliness leave much to be desired, plus the amount of cities in Canada completely unserved but are on a rail network or were even previously served by VIA is staggering. Calgary has no service, neither does Sault Ste Marie or Thunder Bay, or the lack of trains going up north like to Yellowknife and Whitehorse.
@James_Knott2 ай бұрын
I used to be a technician with CN Telecommunications and worked in Northern Ontario back in the mid 70s. CN had a similar service called the "mini train", though not with Budd cars. However, I had been on Budds elsewhere. Back then, I also had flag stops, but not your way. As an employee, I had access to the dispatcher's phone. In fact, my work occasionally included fixing that phone. When I needed a ride, I'd get on the phone and ask for a stop, often on a passenger train, including the Super Continental, but more likely a freight. Some of the places I was in also had a food stash and a bunk, just in case it was a long wait. There was one trip where I came back to Capreol on a gas car, of the type the track crews used.
@islandman58029 күн бұрын
June 2024 - My 13 year old son and I just took the budd car from Sudbury to White River and back. We stayed the night in White River. It was such a cool experience! My son keeps asking when I’m going to book tickets again!
@davehadfield590618 сағат бұрын
Great!
@suddenlysolo21702 ай бұрын
I used to ride a Via Rail Budd Car from Courtnay to Duncan on Vancouver Island every Sunday in the early 1990's
@brendatrenhaile1085 Жыл бұрын
Rode the Budd car many, many times as a young child and teenager from Sudbury to Biscotasing. Loved every bit of it.
@davehadfield5906 Жыл бұрын
Did you live in Bisco, or nearby?
@brendatrenhaile1085 Жыл бұрын
Yes I did Dave. Lived with my Aunt Mary Kohls from the age of 6 to 15, then moved to Sudbury and lived with my Uncle Gordie and Aunt Vi Kohls to go to high school.
@PineMartyn2 жыл бұрын
I first heard about this about a decade and a half ago in the winter camping section of the Canadian Canoe Routes forum and later on Hoop's Winter Trekking forum, but this is the clearest description of the logistics I have come across. Great job on this and thanks for uploading it Dave. Cheers, -Martin
@user-cf1se1kk5x2 жыл бұрын
We used to have these on Vancouver Island on the E@N (Esquimalt to Nanaimo) line. They have been gone for about a decade now.
@hcevrim5 ай бұрын
Dave, your songs man! Just touching to my heart everytime, and anytime.
@davehadfield59065 ай бұрын
Thanks Halil!
@tgv00182 ай бұрын
@@davehadfield5906that song is amazing! is there a full version on youtube
@davehadfield5906Ай бұрын
@@tgv0018 No, I haven't properly recorded it yet. I just played a few bars into my cellphone for this video.
@tgv0018Ай бұрын
@@davehadfield5906 oh alright
@tgv0018Ай бұрын
Do you perhaps plan on recording it any time soon?
@aliceherculson8645 Жыл бұрын
YOu have a great chuckle Dave! My dad and uncle were CN signalmen. I spent a lot of time in a siding as a young child. Parked waiting on dad to fix stuff. Food came in on the train ... ordered via dispatch. I love Train stuff! Also love the wilderness.
@TheCanadianFisherman2 жыл бұрын
I'll be taking the Budd Car to MarMac Lodge this summer!
@rainbowrailroadcrossing7798 Жыл бұрын
This is something I definitely want to do! I’ve been on a non powered Budd car at lake Winnepesaukee. But uniquely camping from the train and the wilderness is on my bucket list!
@peteaplin83243 ай бұрын
Rode the Bud up to Pogomasing area for some winter camping in 2005/2006 with a bunch from MNR, Smoky and the WCA bunch...nice area and it was cold!
@davehadfield59063 ай бұрын
Was I on that one? I joined a few of the Deep Freeze trips.
@flynorthprod6 ай бұрын
This was a great video! I love this train. 👌👍
@michaelbruchas66638 ай бұрын
Rode Budd car consist from Montreal to Quebec City and back - circa 1988. Ride was okay but little care for the interiors. The train back had a closed lunch counter!
@RobertSanders-mp2ef9 ай бұрын
Different approach, NICE
@robinsquires7309 Жыл бұрын
Great job on the video. Well done.
@lifeoutside12912 жыл бұрын
Love It! Now on my personal bucket list
@paulknisley64392 жыл бұрын
I love this idea and thanks for sharing!! Great idea for a small group of like minded experienced group or family 🤠
@waynemerlo7448 Жыл бұрын
Nice if the Government would support rail on Vancouver Island in the same way.
@MrPhilippeBrun Жыл бұрын
Although operated with a different equipment, that video reminds me of a VIA Rail trip from Montreal to La Tuque on the train bound to Senneterre. The train would stop, past Joliette, to remote bush areas at passengers' request. Was an interesting experience for a guy who usually ride VIA's Business class between Montreal Ottawa Toronto :) Nice post and long and prosperous lives to the Budd cars!
@davehadfield5906 Жыл бұрын
Yes, VIA is actually required to allow you to do this on many routes, as I understand it -- but they sure don't advertise it.
@ride-paddle-repeat2 жыл бұрын
Great video and information, thanks for sharing. Would love to try this sometime for some crown land camping
@loydtromblay4112 жыл бұрын
That was probably the most informative video. Asked and answered all my questions with no filler or unnecessary. Bla bla bla……..my hats off to you. Very well done. Thank you so very much
@davehadfield59062 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it -- hope you'll ride on it!
@loydtromblay4112 жыл бұрын
@@davehadfield5906 oh i will be i just have to figure out the best lake for Pike
@93kronic2 жыл бұрын
Great video. 👍
@clovehitch185410 ай бұрын
Excellent. Useful information, entertaining, and good music too. Still some hope for old-timers.
@hikeCANOEcamp2 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks for sharing!!
@64pmd2 жыл бұрын
That is so awesome!
@TrainBrain-yg8tl24 күн бұрын
I love the RDC
@hughjassole83612 жыл бұрын
Nice! I was dropped at Nicholson and picked up in Dalton on the Budd Car back in the 90's. Pure Canadian Wilderness!!
@DerredmaxTRIAX Жыл бұрын
That is so cool!
@clemensziegler10883 күн бұрын
thank you for that video :)
@annjuurinen6553 Жыл бұрын
So interesting. Thanks for this video. Seems like a great solution to exploring the North.
@peterrouleau5992 Жыл бұрын
What fun. What great people.
@reyzarut82211 ай бұрын
History record, appreciated for my.the factory, of Budd company. rey
@CampingAcrossOntario Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is awesome, thanks for sharing! Would love to do this someday...
@Up_north_with_Mike Жыл бұрын
what a fantastic entertaining video. Thank you!
@cynthiamoreau87482 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@lorenjackson896110 ай бұрын
They have the same type of train service out of Talkeetna, Alaska.
@nikiknox13692 жыл бұрын
Such a great video! Enjoyed watching!
@darcygibbons3836 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic! thanks for sharing!
@nominalbutchery5086 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, that Budd Car song is legit as fuck. Thanks for that. Big fan.
@coastaku1954Күн бұрын
What they should do is add a service from Sudbury to Sault Ste Marie, why an obvious route like that doesn't exist doesn't make sense to me
@CanoehoundAdventures2 жыл бұрын
Great little video Dave. I have taken the Budd Car several time from Sudbuy and Cartier as high as Missinaibi... It is an incredible time. I would love to know what the rates are now to take a canoe on the train. I remember it was $20.00 per cane and it has risen in price quite a bit. If you know the current rates, can you post it please
@davehadfield59062 жыл бұрын
No, sorry, I don't. But it's vastly cheaper than driving on logging roads for 4 hours and destroying the suspension of your pickup. Which was how my 2004 canoe trip ended up...
@Daryl4092 жыл бұрын
They said it's a $40 luggage fee for a canoe and they can be rented in sudbury.
@davehadfield59062 жыл бұрын
@@Daryl409 Yes. They don't like to charge it. It depends on who's watching.
@Daryl4092 жыл бұрын
@@davehadfield5906 and I thoughts it couldn't get any better! Lol
@prayfornathannatureshow2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Very informative. Have you ever taken the Budd car for summer trips or just winter?
@davehadfield59062 жыл бұрын
Summer, yes, hence the canoe pictures. But in recent years my summers have been booked, so to get my wilderness-fix I have to go in winter.
@budasterisk2167 Жыл бұрын
Dave any suggestions of an easy couple day canoe camp trip locations? Would love to take my kids but dont want to paddle 30 km a day as an older fart....
@davehadfield5906 Жыл бұрын
The Bisco-Ramsey Lake complex. A thousand bays in there. Some small boat traffic, but not much.
@PeterNGloor3 ай бұрын
nice report but why was it filmed in portrait format in parts?
@davehadfield59063 ай бұрын
Because you matter how many times you ask your friends to turn their phones sideways, it doesn't always work.
@gregjname72273 ай бұрын
where to stay over in White river?
@davehadfield59063 ай бұрын
I don't know. I've always got off the train and camped somewhere along the line.
@BlackcloudRailways Жыл бұрын
Lovely, but it would have been so much better if filmed in landscape instead of portrait.
@davehadfield5906 Жыл бұрын
Yes, and no matter how many times you tell that to your tripmates... ;)
@joedingman3696 Жыл бұрын
Cummins diesel engines power these cars not Detroit diesels
@davehadfield5906 Жыл бұрын
My research says Detroits, but I have not looked directly at the engines.
@joedingman3696 Жыл бұрын
@@davehadfield5906 they had Detroit's from the factory but via rebuilt the in service cars with Cummins engines because the 2 stroke Detroit's were lower horsepower and were no longer being built.
@davehadfield5906 Жыл бұрын
@@joedingman3696 Thanks for the correction, Joe.
@reyzarut82211 ай бұрын
My comment is about the experience that I remember from my Country. was excelent, during the years1955 ,they was acquired by the plan to restored the communication thought all states, and today they have some coach running with new motors acquired foreign country, not USA, or by traction from engines Diesel . rey