Without knowledge a man will perish

@@thomthompson9217if you run out of ammo you’re screwed.

Where can we find that target?

I wish i had a KD course in my backyard. Semper Fi, Marine!

You’re old like me.

RLTW

It's better for out to 200..... Then drops 9+in for 300yds. The 36yd zero is superior to 300. SLIGHTLY more deviation out to 200 but still a dead hold at 300. With less than 6in total deviation in between.

I can hold at the base of the neck and still hit center sternum at 300. Much more likely you'll have to shoot at closer ranges where the 50 has a lot less hold. How many times are you going to need to shoot at 300.. I'll stay with the 50 yd zero.👍

He is using a 10.5" barrel.

Actually honestly for 200yd and less the 50yd zero is superior. It's a tad tighter out to 200, the issue issue is the 9in of drop for 300yds with the 50yd zero. The 36yd zero has SLIGHTLY more deviation to 200 (you'll be 4-5in high at 100-200 typically)but remains essentially dead on at 300 as it drops in. So if your course only goes to 200 at most, a 50 yard zero might be best. But especially for shooting at unknown distances real world, 36yd is my choice and what I use. Because you can't always dictate the range. But if I knew for a fact I would only shoot to 200, 50yd zero is what I'd use

💥 That’s exactly what I based it off of. 🙏

Haha Amen. Good one

I mean a 2 MOA scope covers 2” so the ability to align the dot to a tighter grouping is harder. It has nothing to do with the barrels ability. Just alignment. Imagine a 6 MOA. It covers a lot of space so naturally it’ll be harder to hold a tighter group. 🙏

Andrew, if you have a rifle and a shooter cable of shooting 1 moa, a 2 moa red dot will not cause a decrease in the rifle's accuracy. With consistent and solid fundamentals, holding a 2 moa group at 100 yds, is an easy day in the office. Not flawless marksmanship.

And experience 💀

@@kenwheelock2740yep.

Same here. A2 zeroed at 25yds. Former Army.

@@kenwheelock2740experience in Spades, I don’t question SEALS.

@@EngineersQuestaim at the belt, you’ll be on. One way or the other.

Thanks, will do!

You're very welcome 🙏

🙏

Thank you! God bless. 🙏

You’re welcome. 🙏

Would be cool to see that my 300 blackout I am dead on at 50 yards and like an inch high at 100 yards and only drop like 5ish inches to 200 yards

I liked the 25/250 zero that we used in the Army as well. Now I really love the 36 yd zero

No, the optic mount isn’t backwards. No, the optic isn’t mounted on the rail itself. No, environmental factors do not play into your zero. No, the barrel length does not determine your zero as it has no bearing on your accuracy. No, bullet weight has nothing to do with your zero rather the harmonics of the barrel. My friend. Your entire comment is 100% inaccurate. You can simple google these things to see if they are or are not accurate before you comment. It’s super important you don’t assume things. You mislead others and that is why most can’t shoot. They believe this nonsense. 🙏

Pin of shame? 📌

Are you regarded?

Look at the numbers for that round at the range you have and adjust POI for that amount of elevation above or below. With a 36 yard zero on a 25 yard range, POI is about an inch and half low from POA. Then, verify the dope

Thank you. 🙏

At what bullet weight, BC and muzzle velocity? Thanks

Exactly! Good input. 🙏

Lol no. 25 is NEVER best. That is an ABSOLUTELY TRASH zero. The whole point of a carbine is the ability to shoot at distance. You can go from CQB inside but the second you step out the door you might be in a fight at 200yds..... 25yd zero is utter garbage. And 50 is WORSE for longer distance than 36...... And the 100yd zero is really only best if you're using a scope with BDC that REQUIRES a 100yd zero.... 50 is best for 200 and in....and only slightly... With significant drop past 200 (which isn't necessarily bad you just have to understand that) 36 is best for all around shooting. where you might be shooting at unknown ranges anywhere from CQB out to 3-400+yds... Only SLIGHTLY more deviation inside 200 but allowing dead holds center mass out to 300 with everything from 5yd to 300yds all inside a 6in impact zone Essentially a 50yd zero is a little tighter at 100-200yds (about 2in at most in deviation) but drops 9+in to hit 300yds. Great zero for general use if you're in a setting where shots past 200 would be rare anyways But if you live in an area where you might have longer sight lines out to 3 - 500 yds, the 36yd zero is the best general purpose because there is no thinking involved until PAST 300 which is useful because it can be very difficult to guesstimate range, and targets will only very rarely be fully exposed once a fight starts.

Your wife is spot on.

🤣🤣🤣

You're using the cm (correct measurement) right?

My 14.5 using 77gr OTMs or 62gr Bonded soft Points disagrees with you 😂 If you're only going to be using peashooter 55gr FMJ your not exactly wrong tho

Yeah. Barrel length, weight of the bullet, .223 vs 5.56, height of the optic, velocity of the round, etc. Is 36 yds a viable zero sure, but so is 50, and 100 depending on application and the stated variables. The 2.26" mounts call for a 67yard zero for the smallest groupings out to 300 center mass, again dependent on other variables. That's the only thing that drives me nuts with this channel is the statements of certainty, despite the consideration of variables at play. Also he misses the point of the battle zero, it's when there is unknown distance what is going to give you a hit holding center mass. Sure through practice and experience and tricks you can learn to gauge it but it becomes more and more guesstimate math past a certain distance. Hence why scopes and reticles become important. Right tools for the job.

Yeah, that ☝😉

Same but I like the 300 for longer barrels.

@@frogmantactical I started running my 11.5" rigs with the 36yd zero after that class you did in Central CA. I got comfortable with the 200yd zero on the longer barrels I have from doing benchrest competitions. I know my holds and it's easy for me. I'll try out a 300yd next range day.

No we don’t because it’s not going to be accurate for your gun and ammo. You can download a ballistic calculator, input your info, and your chart will be constructed.

@@frogmantactical I figured. I haven't had luck with ballistic calls since Strelok was taken off the play store. TY anyway, and God bless.

@@patrick70335 Write the numbers on paper and tape it to your stock. That’s what we do.

Agree with you 100%

Yes 50 is flatter overall.

Right I saw that and was like what is that kid doing during filming lol. Must be his kid.

I mean with a 2 MOA dot it covers up 2” so it’s a bit harder to line up on target to maintain a tighter group is all. It has nothing to do with the MOA of the rifle itself.

Depends on sight height but I’d say no more than 1/4” low or so. Not much.

Mountains,mullets,merica does a great video on the 36 yard zero.The closest he shoots is 25yards with it and it was 1/4 inch low .

Ok so I’ll take a few shots, if I’m about 1/4” low I’m good at figuring I’m zeroed at 36 yards.

I’d just snapshot it. I don’t have it to where you can download it per say.

No. The larger the dot, the harder it is to align over previous impact points. A smaller dot is easier to manage for precision. Just like a scope. The larger the cross hair, the more it takes up on target. 🙏

Good catch. That was me. I pulled the shot. Every now and then I don’t catch verbal mistakes but that’s some good ears 😂 🙏

Oops…thought I saw yer watch on yer left arm….straight up lefty

🤦‍♂️ You’re more concerned about your opinion than scientific data.

@@frogmantactical No. The fact I

@@frogmantactical Are you stating that the targets are on an incline? The 300 yard target is higher in elevation than the 200 yard target, etc.? Or are you saying that they are at the same height, but at 300 yards the bullet is traveling upward at an incline to meet the zero based on optic height?

Because they don’t know the basics is what leads to being good. Everyone wants to operate and are impatient. This is also why most will never accomplish much. They want it now instead of investing time to grow. 🙏

50 for a 5.56 is the flattest out to 300. Good zero as well.

😂 The spotter always gets dibs on the sunflower seeds.

@@frogmantactical haha yeah I saw that. Classic move.

25-36.

@@frogmantactical 🇨🇿👍

@@davidmecham9676 lol. 1st of 327th batallion ft benning GA.i dont thing you have a clue what your are talking about because you dont know who i am sir. but hey go and assume things. the callsigns where the actual calligns for the particular excersice, and the event was a shitshow for the recruits. but you know better right?

Nonsense. This is not precision. It’s combative measures. The difference between a 10.5” and 16” barrel velocity and drop is not significant enough inside 300 yards. You can zero at any point from 25-300 yards and still impact at any given distance inside 300 yards on a human size target. It’s not even a debate. It’s scientific and proven time and time again. 👍