It's just not a useful product. People who actually bought it are just wasting their money to look cool or something

​@brendanbudniak2261 Older cars could use this, a car without a screen like many low-end cars, or cars before late 2000s

@@brendanbudniak2261that has to be the worst take on anything ever

@@BBGS11_Lego yeah but U can get a Bluetooth adaptor for like 10 dollars that connects to your phone. It's a cool device but it solves a problem that has already been solved for ages tbh

@@brendanbudniak2261yes and no, Bluetooth/radio absolutely butchers the quality, the only easy way was aux with a car thing

How so? What are the damages? You can get your money back from them if you ask. You haven't lost anything. Edit. For those saying they aren't offering refunds. Look again. At up to date reporting. They ARE offering refunds.

@herranton nope, from a few sources ive seen they are offering zero refunds

@@thedrifter5531 lol, wut? The ACTUAL SPOTIFY COMPANY told engadget last Friday that if you contact customer support with proof of purchase, they will offer a refund.

@@thedrifter5531I can guarantee you somewhere in the fine print of the terms and conditions they covered themselves so they can do this legally. Big companies usually arent that stupid

cope 😂

Nah low-key this product is just kinda meh/useless

@@brendanbudniak2261 like most electronics

I stopped paying for streaming services in favor of self hosting high fidelity music from a raspberry pi in my home

@@brendanbudniak2261what about cars that don’t have displays or advanced consoles, it’s illegal to use your phone while driving in some states, so this is not useless

​@@brendanbudniak2261 it's been an awesome addition to my motorcycle, you're useless

I would highly recommend owning your music whenever you can and switching to an open source version of things like Spotify when you’re not using an iPod

​@@UKsystems like what, exactly?

@@Rederister you’re going to have to do your own research as it depends on how involved you want to get whether you want to purchase servers or not

@@UKsystems In other words, you know it's completely unfeasible but still recommend it anyway because you think it makes you look smart. Willing to be you haven't actually set up an RMS from scratch yourself. Your average end user is not going to have the technical knowhow to run and maintain an RMS. God forbid we talk about how this particular device is intended for use IN THE CAR, meaning it can't even make use of a media server in most circumstances. Or about how expensive server hosting gets, even if you run a cheap optiplex as a local-only server tied into your router. Yes, buyiing your music is better, but these streaming services provide a LOT of utility that just isn't accessible to normal people without them.

@@jtnachos16I like how you called him/her out on it. So many love talking about hosting for files/music/movies as if the ordinary folk know how. I’m a senior OT & IT Engineer for Pharma and even I ain’t got time for that ! They just love those. ”well this is possible didn’t you know ? duh“ statements.

Rare Google W

No, they won't. They already told people to go dispose of it at their closest e-waste centre

@@ThatWorldWideWeb i think it's also because they sold the stuff in places like the EU, and that shit doesn't fly there.

@@cassiuscartland it’s very easy to put another operating system on a device such as these

God that's horrible.

They aren’t breaking any laws

@@calebwilcott9699 Clean that corporate boot, bootlicker.

It will be a civil suit, not a criminal trial, so it is not about breaking a law, it is about violating an implied contract.

@@HarryJarrell They didn't break any contacts. The Spotify Terms and Conditions clearly state they can do this.

@calebwilcott9699 @cassiuscartland Regardless of what you guys think, there's already a class action lawsuit in progress.

Yup! Been screaming about this for years. The people will saw their feet off to RENT boots that walk for you at half the speed.

@@ks_snuggles yeah, big gaming companies have been doing this more flagrantly these days.

“You will own nothing and be happy” 🥲

van moof in amsterdam ahahahahah crazy that people think buying a product and they not belonging to them is okay. my phone my rules. miss the old symbian days

You know what actually sucks? Spotify was free…on everything.

Meh, even the guy in the video knows it's only good because it looks cool. It doesn't actually do anything you can't do otherwise

@@brendanbudniak2261 I drive a manual 2012 honda fit, without this I would be way too distracted on the road trying to change music on my phone..For me I also believe it's an amazing little product.

​@@brendanbudniak2261He said he uses it, let him be.

just get a radio with suport for android or apple carplay. I got me one for 140 bucks. it has an 11 inch touch screen, that tilts, . and it connects wirelessly to my phone. and i can access any android app with it.

Well hey it's running Linux so it's possible

Hell Yeah!!

We will probably get Doom on Spotify Car Thing before GTA 6

You could say it's a Doom thing

They have already "jailbroke" it multiple times so it shouldn't take long

It's going to be bricked because they will drop the support for the device. The car thing can only run spotify

I'm sure they got some vague lawyer lingo in the contract you signed once but constantly changes to protect them in this.

unfortunately consumer rights are a bit of a joke in america. you should really vote for people that will stand up for them when possible

@SCP_BrightAltstill doesn’t make it right

@SCP_BrightAlt the meat riding is strong with this one If you give them an inch they take a mile Corpos are the enemy of the people

Def gonna miss it

Corporate greed

​@@rillotvshouldn't it be possible to install your own version of Android if you root it?

The worst part in my opinion is that when they released "The Car Thing" the yanked a their radio integration. So if you have a non Android auto/apple car play radio, that had a Spotify button, that button no longer works. And then they killed the car thing. Meaning the only functional way to use Spotify in your car is Android auto/car play or touching your phone constantly.

​@@FriedTendi Surprisingly, it doesn't run Android, but Linux. There are ways to hack it, though, and install another Linux OS to it. Probably already a bunch of people working on building one.

Well there are other options that do more than just Spotify

No it does not make sense. Everyone just has a phone today

@@DerSkoff a infotainment system is a different from a phone, it better blends in with a car but yes this specific one isn't too great

Just put a new stereo in the car, whenever my dad gets a used car he just puts one in that connects to his phone

@@beardeddawg8509 Theres a lot of reasons not to touch the factory infotainment system. Almost every reason is specific to every car. Like in a 6th gen civic, the car alarm was run through the radio, which means if you replace the radio you suddenly don't have an alarm system and thieves can clearly see that through the window. In a first and second gen mazda 3, infotainment is responsible for the MPG and DTE gauge in the top screen on the dash. Unless you get a special radio or an extra black box behind the dash to handle that, you lose that functionality. Or in a 1979-1985 mazda RX-7, the radio is an obtuse size and the dash is very brittle, so replacing it is most likely going to mean broken dashboard and parts aren't available for it.

It’s actually very clearly stated in the first line of the terms of conditions that they can disable it and providing the software is only a courtesy

@@UKsystems🤓🤓

@@emiliopena4404 I think it’s important to know that you should read the terms and conditions to a product when they can do stuff like this and you’ve purchased it

Well, that is a joke. There should be a minimum service life for such products.

@@PeterM8987 well when you sign an agreement stating you’re only buying a hardware product service life is suddenly irrelevant

Perfect timing, you'll find plenty for sale soon!!

​@@galloewhere?

And then you’ll have a paperweight by the end of the year

at 29 bucks it is a good deal. at 119 its a ripoff

Even the guy in the video knows the only reason to buy this thing is because it looks cool because it's actually kinda useless

Nah, it's the hyper-controlled digital era. Didn't used to be like this, it's always been super flexible -- and that's still the case if you know what you're doing

@@Greencheez-y well you can avoid all the control if you self host every service and do not pay for subscription

​@@UKsystems Well I do, but only for the things that make sence to do. Own cloud, shared family cooud folder, streaning music and video (all somehwat legally owned). I wish I can do so for my car. Instead - once the servers are down, I will loose quite many useful functions 😮

@@user-qy2wf2lt6v there were definitely a lot of open soul solutions that can sync to a server when connected to the network and function when it’s disconnected with the locally saved variant

😂 it's literally a physical product

Yea,its prob based of android

@@Keaton7320it’s Linux based

it runs on empty linux with no gui, no hud its just spotify on shell launcher​@@Keaton7320

It's open source, but not much interest because it's an extremely underpowered device. It's probably not worth pursuing.

​@@DiscipleDownonly good with its original software right

Bruh it's a useless product anyway. you're wasting 90 bucks just to use Spotify very slightly easier in your car.

@@brendanbudniak2261 Lot's of things are 'useless products' until you happen to need them for a specific use case. Hell even Spotify is a useless product considering you could just buy music. Doesn't justify them intentionally bricking a device that realistically requires near zero support hours from devs.

@@brendanbudniak2261 first of all it does look nice and second of all I drive a old car which doesn’t technically even have a radio. I basically have to use my phone and plug it in to have any music while I’m in the car and sometimes it’s nicer to have something like this instead of having to hold your phone. I also drive stick so you don’t really or you’re not supposed to really have your phone in your hand.

@@Nathan15038 is it just a really bad car or is it a vintage one or something?

@@brendanbudniak2261 old school I have a 80s civic and a 90s civic too. Having a stereo was an upgrade. Also back then a lot of times they would get stolen or people would steal them.

Where can you buy it at

I was already a lux distribution meant for flashing onto these. You can easily put it on if you want.

They're not super cheap? They're $100+ on eBay if you can find one which is asking a lot for what megar specs it has

So your suggestion is to buy one with the hope that it's forced to be made open source?

i have a nokia c5 and a n78 both still working no issues. now the phones they turn off the server and you are done.

RIGHT

You could just use an actual gps as a GPS tho

Phone as a GPS device is merely perfect

@@DonPetrushka but the screen gets damaged as the sun light hits it . Using a phone on the motorcycle is not advisable. Hitting a huge pot hole is going to send your phone for an unscheduled flight.

@@TheINDIAN it 100% won't send my phone for any flight since I've got a really good phone holder locking it from all four sides. But about the sun affecting the phone, fair enough, good point. Especially if you have long trips. Buuut you still can use some "phonebrella" to protect it from the direct sun rays 😏

I bet it's actually because they are going to/have already made a successor to this device. And considering it runs on Android/Linux, they don't want anyone who knows what they're doing with tech to crack it and make it last longer so that they can get morons to buy the "newer and improved version"

@@kennygaming208 I ripped all of my Playlist on Spotify to MP3 and let them suspend my account

Bruh who's gonna waste 90 dollars to use Spotify a tiny bit easier on their desk

@@brendanbudniak2261 if 30-40-50% off. I consider it worth it. I pay a same amount of money for a non touch portable display to open spotify all the time

​@@brendanbudniak2261 it was $30, you can use voice commands, it has 4 different buttons to navigate easily, the volume knob is better than buttons or a slider on my computer screen... You don't have to like it or buy it... Why the hatred

​​​​​@@brendanbudniak2261I don't understand why people would want to do that, when they can literally use their damn phone/laptop/ computer, etc, to do the exact same thing. Is this generation really that fück!ng dümb?

@@brendanbudniak2261 generation Z, they are not very smart...

Probably Spotify wants to change the format of how their site works that'll be incompatible with how the device works currently.

Theyll prpbably let subscribers use it for the durarion of their wubscription

Even if not its only a matter of time for them to do so just to spite spotify lmao

they have, you can sign code to it now

yeah it doesn't even have code signing, Spotify just left it wide open. there's a giant community of people getting them to do things other than what Spotify intended!

I had been comparing several music services about three years ago, and decided to stay with Spotify eventually, bcs it's literally the most user friendly service with an extensive library. And their algos just know my taste as good as it gets, recommendations are always spot on. So I can't say which one might be better right now

This. They've gotten arrogant, forgotten where they came from & who made them what they are today: *Us consumers.* They used to be niche when I first joined them.

So pay for nothing ever?

That's every company ever

You realize companies literally exist only to make money, right?

Relax mate. Spotify is a useful service but this product is just not that useful

So every company in existence then You wouldn't buy anything with your logic mate Companies do only want your money

Genuine curiosity how did they do that? Jw because I had one and I remember I went to use it one day and it just wouldn't do anything. Screen was black but back lit but wouldn't do anything.

Almost nothing. They just need to keep a legacy api, that they don't need to update, like Google and KZfaq does.

Or rather, they don't need to update the car thing ever again, they just need to keep their servers using the same api.

Server+electricity cost at that point. And servers ain't cheap

​@@movingtargetproductions5046 Except this thing doesn't use any servers, it's just a remote for the phone app and can even be used offline. There's literally zero reason to kill it.

@@movingtargetproductions5046they are already paying to use the server space for all their music I don’t believe that they are really saving much

his new single called famous is so good

Yeah like how we got to a world where you can buy disposible vapes with full color LCDs in! A tinkerers dream though

could you link where you found this info? i want to get this on my car thing for when it gets de activiated

@@Rye37 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gciTgpt8nq7ZqmQ.html

It is open source actually, just very little interest since it has a weak CPU and limited connectivity.

Since it's android there's a big chance to fix it

So cool relying on others free labor to keep a paid for device function outside of the service you still pay over $100 a year for 😂 Idk whats worse, Spotify taking advantage of their customers, or that it's blatant and their customers put their blinders on while telling themselves they're getting a great deal and "convenience". $600 in 5 years to own NOTHING 😂😂😂