How to Make High Voltage Capacitors - Homemade/DIY Capacitors

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How to make DIY high voltage capacitors. I start by showing a few different high voltage capacitors I've made over the years followed by an explanation of how denser electric field causes breakdown of the capacitor dielectric/insulator. I then show what the voltage rating on commercial capacitors means. I next show how to find breakdown voltage, also known at dielectric strength, online and use it in calculations for how thick your dielectric should be. That's followed by a breakdown voltage test with a homemade high voltage power supply, an analog volt meter and an ammeter. I then show how the shape of capacitor plates influences breakdown voltage, as well as the effect thin plates has on ionizing air. That leads to using corona dope, resin or wax to insulate the capacitor plates. In the final breakdown voltage demonstrations I show the use of current limiting resistors and lastly how standard breakdown voltage tests are done.
Also watch "How to Make Capacitors - Low Voltage Homemade/DIY Capacitors" video,
• How to Make Capacitors...
To make higher capacitance capacitors, for around 62 microfarads see my "How to Make an Electrolytic Capacitor" video here:
• How to Make Electrolyt...
And for even higher capacitance, 580 microfarads, see my "How to Make a High Capacitance Electrolytic Capacitor" video here:
• How to Make a High Cap...
The webpage with details on how I make high voltage connectors,
rimstar.org/equip/hvwiring.htm
Details of how I made my homemade high voltage power supply for up to 30kV are here:
rimstar.org/equip/30kv_pwr_sup...
Here's a link to the Super Corona Dope I use in this video:
www.mgchemicals.com/products/p...
Other high voltage sources...
For a Wimshurst machine see:
• Wimshurst Machine - Ho... (how to make one)
rimstar.org/equip/wimshurst_27... (a commercially bought one)
For a Van de Graaff generator:
• How to Make/Build a Va... (how to make one)
rimstar.org/equip/build_make_v... (more how to make)
For a high power high voltage one, up to 75kV:
rimstar.org/equip/hvg10.htm
3D capacitor animation done using Blender 2.63.
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@TheKingofRandom 11 жыл бұрын

Great video! Thank you!

@maxwelledison1464 3 жыл бұрын

The King of Random RIP

@mykulpierce 3 жыл бұрын

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@roykoffi7942 3 жыл бұрын

Genius squad 🙂.RIP The King of Random. ❤🙏

@johnnycash4034 3 жыл бұрын

RIP Grant

@Chemanic1 2 жыл бұрын

Rip grant

@521cjb 7 жыл бұрын

Breakdown voltage ratings also include a time factor - a cap that can hold X volts for a few minutes may fail after a few hours, day, weeks or months. The book ratings are for dielectrics that can hold indefinitely. Supposedly. I've replaced many factory made caps that were rated for higher voltage than their actual situation in-circuit. Nothing is foolproof, and everything has a lifespan. Thanks for a great video, very informative.

@hadleymanmusic Күн бұрын

This is one reason why home made time machines are dangerous the reliability of the caps are a safety hazard

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad to hear you're enjoying them and super glad to have helped.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

For voltage you can use a meter with a suitable probe. In this video, since I'm measuring high voltage I'm using a high voltage probe connected to my analog multimeter. Some meters, like my Fluke digital multimeter, can measure capacitance. You can see me do it in my "How to Make Capacitors - Low Voltage Homemade/DIY Capacitors" video at 5:01 into it. There's a link to that video in the description below this video and you can find it on my channel page.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

You can find details in the Equipment section of my website, rimstar.org. Look for "30kV DC power supply (homemade)". I also just put a link to it in the description below this video.

@angeloc700 2 жыл бұрын

Seemingly, the information available to a curious mind in the 21st century is bounded only by the knowledge available by man. Thanks for posting!

@Taran72 6 жыл бұрын

Finally! a video that shows me how to make a homemade capacitor that actually works and I can make from materials that I can find easily. thank you very much.

@AssExtinction 10 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking your time and replaying. I really do enjoy your videos about capacitators.

@1HayesEng 10 жыл бұрын

It’s refreshing to find someone on KZfaq who knows what he is doing..

@999manman 11 жыл бұрын

WOW!!! I had no idea this was even possible on a kitchen table level!!! Great video, Rimstar! I am floored!!!

@bandoman59 11 жыл бұрын

Great now I'm gonna be spending lots of time watching your vids. Even though I understand electronics. Been in it for years, still amazed by the physics of it all. I think you do a great job on explaining and showing it all also. And lastly you just helped me out with a project I've been working on.

@alocin110 3 жыл бұрын

One of the best video on capacitors, capacitor testing, and workable design. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with others. \keep up the good work. Your lab set up is so professional that tells you have a good hand-on experience. Thank you again. I liked your video.

@victoryfirst2878 3 жыл бұрын

Congratulations Sir. This is the best video on capacitors making I have seen on KZfaq. Nice work fella.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Interesting take on it. I gave basics like talking about breakdown voltage and how to figure out how thick to make it for a desired breakdown voltage and how to test it. I gave basics on materials like wax and resin for insulating and avoiding sharp edges and why. And I did show you the steps for one with two copper plates starting at 7:28. But I guess this is more of a "all you need to know to make one of your own design video" than I "step-by-step only for one capacitor video."

@ArtyMars 4 жыл бұрын

This was ten times as informative as i was expecting, thanks hahaha

@JSambrook 3 жыл бұрын

I’m working on a magnetic loop antenna for 20m. This video is super-helpful. Very well done. 73 and thank you, John, KJ7RDV.

@Ezio-Auditore94 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, well documented and explained. Just awesome

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That's partly why I like making these videos is to show just what's possible on the kitchen table level. You'd be amazed at what you can do.

@sadunnakipoglu9471 Ай бұрын

Thank you and appreciate your effort. Greetings to you from Turkey .

@roccotinitali1544 6 жыл бұрын

I admire you and your experiments. Thanks for your efforts sir.

@OK2BCK 11 жыл бұрын

videos like this are VERY appreciated, thanks!

@johnrouse6957 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for taking the time to share your knowledge and build skills/ design ideas. I'm currently working on building my own capacitor discharge device for magnetizing. I want to experiment with a diy foundry and try some different alloys etc. the goal is to use raw materials/ easily attainable materials for alternative energy experiments. I can't thank you enough for your videos!

@RimstarOrg 8 жыл бұрын

+John Rouse That sounds like a great project, made up of interesting sub-projects, like the foundry. Have fun with it, and thanks for watching!

@ericbelistan6591 11 жыл бұрын

Big thank you from France. Your work is very interisting and well explain. Eric

@Deliriousintentionsprojects 11 жыл бұрын

Wonderful description and testing. Good work! well done.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

A capacitor won't help you get from under 12V to 50kV. For that you'd need a high voltage power supply or some minimal circuit. Also a Van de Graaff generator or Wimshurst machine will do. But a carefully insulated capacitor like the two I show at the beginning of this video will hold 50kV once you have the high voltage power supply to make it. See the links in the video description for various high voltage sources.

@directeeccks 11 жыл бұрын

This is a very good video. You sir get a tip of the hat on the detail you went into. This information is really good for eco types. We could upcycle what most consider trash to this. Good work sir!

@vickyheriyantodarmadi6469 2 жыл бұрын

Very good video, very easy to understand

@MrVaneurin 6 жыл бұрын

Tanks for the very educational video, well done.

@Eddygeek18 10 жыл бұрын

Im very new to electric applications the most i have done is built a small kinda hovering motor thing using very basics like a motor an ac 16v adapter and a few cables with propeller blade mounted to the motor. I found this video extremly interesting and it has definatly expanded my knowlage atleast abit. Thank you great video :)

@Slider2732 11 жыл бұрын

Great video, learned a lot there. Heck of a bang a few hours ago here, from a substation a couple of blocks away. The power dipped off in the house and a second later heard the boom...I bet they were down to 1 sheet after watching your video LOL

@RCengineFAN 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for getting back to me. Will keep that link.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

To get those ratings I just did a google search for the dielectric strength of polyethylene. If you do that you'll find a bunch of tables on different websites. All they say is "polyethylene", nothing about any grade. So I don''t know what grade the numbers were for. Also, for mine all I know is it's used for putting on floors under carpets to act as a vapor barrier. And thanks, I'm glad you find my videos and website helpful. Sorry about speaking fast.

@burkegreg 6 жыл бұрын

My new favourite channel

@dfraldas 3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah! Corona dope for the corona pandemic time is the best combo!

@mitchellrose2940 6 жыл бұрын

you're the best...you must do this for a living.

@RimstarOrg 9 жыл бұрын

+Nathaniel Charles Put a resistor in the circuit in the discharge path. PS There's no Reply button under your comment because of your Google+ settings. - go to your Google+ page, - in the top, right corner click on your thumbnail icon, - in the popup that appears, click on "Settings". - for the 2nd question down "Who can comment on your public posts?" set it to "Anyone".

@gametrue2229 5 жыл бұрын

RimstarOrg ?

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! I really appreciate you're watching it! So thanks right back.

@paulojesus8573 4 жыл бұрын

This was sooo good man Thanks alot Good infos Old video but aloot of good infos Working to make graphene capacitors and this video help me to make good ones

@saturn5tony 8 жыл бұрын

To quote the fellow from vulcan..... Fascinating!

@TheFecesGuy 7 жыл бұрын

saturn5tony are you out of your Vulcan mind -McCoy

@TheCactusMad 11 жыл бұрын

Love the videos keep up the good work

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I'm glad to hear you got something from it.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I'm glad you like the video. I'll leave it to you to do the dielectric strength tests... now that you know how! :) Make sure to put up a video of the tests. No kidding I'm busy too. Woke up in bed this morning going back and forth on the details for three different videos!

@badassredskin 10 жыл бұрын

Great video. You just got a new subscriber!

@hartyguyton3800 11 жыл бұрын

You are phenomena ^_^ . it is illustrated in High Professional way. Keep going!

@rumamaryam6617 11 жыл бұрын

Love it! Definitely subscribing.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm glad you found it helpful!

@morganchandler5126 6 жыл бұрын

RimstarOrg hello I'm not sure if you'll ever see this or reply but I'm working on some things and I would like you input... a high voltage project

@virginiaeichholz4894 10 жыл бұрын

Great stuff thanks a lot for great video

@tompeterson9607 7 жыл бұрын

The online rating is probably dependent on exposure time, if you were to do a longer running test at a bit of a lower voltage you'll probably find that the plastic will degrade and breakdown.

@JamesBiggar 11 жыл бұрын

great info! nothing helps me to understand something better than watching someone break it down or build it, thx for sharing! could the thickness of the polyethelyne be causing the discrepency between your test and the breakdown info that you found online? general purpose poly is quite thin, whereas construction poly is many times thicker. the poly you used seemed quite dark like construction poly - maybe it's thicker than the poly that the site gave a rating for?

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Cool! Looking forward to what Buddy has to say!

@JamesBiggar 11 жыл бұрын

just checked out the video again - with coffee in hand - and noticed the 'volts per mil' chart, lol. don't mind me

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

The sell them in sort of large rolls here too. I have a roll that's around 80 centimeters tall but I don't know how much area is rolled onto it - a lot.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I hope you enjoy the videos.

@TickyTack23 11 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, gave you another subscription!

@RimstarOrg 10 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, the shape makes a difference. That's what I was trying to illustrate in the video at 6:00. What you're seeing with your wire is what I'd expect you to see. Try it with flat plates and you won't break it down as easily. I don't have any derating factor. I doubt that you'll find derating factors for breakdown voltage. You can find breakdown voltages for different materials, but they're tested with standard shapes. To know for certain with your plate shapes you just have to test.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Good idea. Thanks. Much, much bigger topic than capacitors though.

@Cityj0hn 10 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@rogeronslow1498 5 жыл бұрын

The dielectric strength of a dielectric such as Mylar decreases as the film thickness increases. This means that you can't simply double the dielectric thickness and expect double the breakdown voltage. If you download the datasheet for Mylar you will see that the dielectric strength decreases substantially as film thickness increases. The reason is that the electric field does not distribute evenly across all the layers of dielectric film. A solution to the problem is to use a technique refered to as dielectric stratification. This involves placing floating tinfoil between every layer of film (but not right to the edge). This stabilises the electric field between each layer and allows you to stress the dielectric to it's published value. Also, you have to test the capacitors in oil if you work above the corona inception voltage (about 10kV) or they'll fail from corona and not dielectric breakdown.

@50hh05 5 жыл бұрын

this is a very interesting (and logicaly explained) piece of information but i cannot find any source for "dielectric stratification". Is there another term for it ?

@MrJohhhnnnyyy 11 жыл бұрын

Your vid is great! I subscribed :)

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad to hear it!

@kontaktronik 11 жыл бұрын

Thank for uploading!

@jerryuhte1284 2 жыл бұрын

That is so clever om, i built a 20 m cu loop but never could get it to resonate ! I had coax and a split rotor cap , never did figure out why ! You have hit on something ! Lets hear it work ! 73 K9UT Jerry Uhte

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it. Thanks.

@RimstarOrg 10 жыл бұрын

You may be new to electronics but it sounds like you've done some cool stuff. Thanks for watching!

@edemircmenezes6402 7 жыл бұрын

muito obirgado! gostei muito do seu video!

@jimawhitaker 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, I just subscribed. I'm here after blowing 3 cheap Chinese 1000 nf caps and deciding either I'm going to spend way too much or build some myself. I found some teflon sheets used in heat transfer I'm going to tray as my insulator. Do you have any experiance with that material?

@johnrobinson4445 7 жыл бұрын

Great stuff.

@RimstarOrg 10 жыл бұрын

No, I don't know. I've heard of run or start capacitors but I don't know how they're used or what type are needed.

@RimstarOrg 8 жыл бұрын

+Sanskruti Mohanty I'm assuming you're referring to when I said "1 mil = 1/1000th of an inch". The mil I'm referring to is not the metric millimeter. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thousandth_of_an_inch.

@caseyd471 7 жыл бұрын

So in order to make it larger do I just repeat the layering process? |\|\|\|\|\|\|\|?

@RimstarOrg 7 жыл бұрын

That depends on what you mean by larger. To get a higher capacitance you want less layers, but that means it won't be able to withstand as high a voltage. And vice versa, to make it able to withstand a higher voltage without breaking down you add layers, but that will result in a lower capacitance. You need to figure out what your capacitance needs are and how high your voltage will be and then go from there. This video talks about the voltage part, the capacitance part is talked about in my other video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fdyVfJyYva_XeKs.html.

@SirArghPirate 11 жыл бұрын

Very informative! What do you use the capacitors you make for?

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks! And welcome!

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! And I never get tired of the feedback, so thank you. Yeah, capacitors are my favorite electronic component. Go electric field!

@democracyforall 4 жыл бұрын

When the current is off the scale how much is the max on the scale?

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

I just checked. It's 13 picofarads. And thanks! I'm glad you liked the video. Thanks for watching!

@Bashnja1 2 жыл бұрын

At only 13pf it has very limited useability, to make a useable value of several hundred or thousands of Pf the thing would be unmanageably large.

@AssExtinction 10 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@spectrospirit 9 жыл бұрын

Hi, would You be able to check out how graphene performs and if it can be a possible replacement for traditional car batteries?

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

I got it from a carpet store. They used it as a vapor barrier under carpets. Though it might also be used in walls during construction for the same reason.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Welcome to my channel!

@JustinHallPlus 9 жыл бұрын

I saw a really cool video where a capacitor made of a glass jar, and two pieces of foil was charged. The foil was removed while it was still charged, and then touched together with no discharge, however when the foil was replaced the capacitor was still charged. This shows that the charge is not held on the conductor, but on the outside of the dielectric, at least with a simple leyden jar.

@RimstarOrg 9 жыл бұрын

Justin Hall Yeah, the charge is sprayed onto the dielectric as the metal electrode is removed. That might have been MIT's video or that might have been my own video. Here's mine about dissectible capacitors kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nbaIqZNnmLWZcmw.html

@MongrelShark 11 жыл бұрын

Good video! Very informative. Thanks for uploading. Could I request you test the dielectric strength of some common household materials. Like Cling wrap (good quality and super cheap), Disposable cups (plastic and polystyrene), Plastic freezer bags, Rubbish bin liners etc etc? I'll be doing some more testing with Cup-caps and some other ideas sometime, First I need high voltage. Few other things on the go. I know your busy too. Look into lanolin oil if you get a chance. Keep up the good work.

@Eddygeek18 10 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the reply :) yeah i had a big idea of making an electric gyrocopter type thing using car batterys transformers and massive motors, i then realise the weight to lift ratio wouldnt allow it to fly but i'm still working on it lol :)

@dalenassar9152 6 жыл бұрын

After looking at your page on making high voltage capacitors, I thought that you MUST see (if you haven't already) the standard on making a simple splice (to connect two wires together) to NASA specs.It would go very nicely with your connection and it is ULTRA-SIMPLE...just about five or six simple requirements. Also, now I see that it looks like it is designed to prevent corona leakage...a way I never looked at it before seeing your link. I don't have a link (there are many) at the moment, but you can just google the likes of "wire splice to NASA standards" or "linesman's splice to NASA standards"...etc. This is something everyone from the beginning hobbyist to professional electrical engineers must see!

@RimstarOrg 6 жыл бұрын

The technique I use, the one I show a bit of in this video at 8:55, has worked well for me up to 75kV and high current without measurable leakage. I talk about it more on this page rimstar.org/equip/hvwiring.htm. But mine is more for temporary connections, sort of a way of plugging and unplugging high voltage components. The NASA one looks great for permanent connections. Thanks.

@ikel6253 7 жыл бұрын

It's funny when u type of people make these video's, and explain/show thing's like we all have these electrical instrument's/machines in our kitchen etc... And ur speedy talk like were all robot scientist's!

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

You're welcome and merci, Eric. -Steve from Canada

@mathhuemcmahon 11 жыл бұрын

Awesome videos. Would you be able to do a video of what's inside a microwave ac cap?

@ExoticHacksXD 11 жыл бұрын

thx for the reply but i was really aiming for what type would be best for a Marx generator

@edwinbickel 8 жыл бұрын

RimStarOrg, Great info! Do you remember what your camera settings were to catch the corona on film?

@RimstarOrg 8 жыл бұрын

+Edwin Bickel Thanks! And no, I don't remember the camera settings. Though with the high current from the power supply I used here I may have just had it all on automatic. The corona from this power supply is easily visible to the naked eye. With the low amperage from my Wimshurst machine however, for example, it can be faint to see with the naked eye and I sometimes have to turn up the camera Exposure to get the corona visible on camera. I had to do that when filming my corona motor version 1, as well as turn up the blue and red in the video editor.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

If you mean the place in the video where I'm showing leakage at one of my connections (5:32) those are positive ions since they're at the positive wire. I don't know about positive ions being toxic but I know ozone can be produced in this way. Ozone gives off a pale blue light. It's not an ion since it's a molecule of three oxygen atoms. Ozone can be harmful in over a long period of time. My test was pretty short but anyone exposed to it a lot should do so in a ventilated room or outdoors.

@TheSecrecyOfFrequency Жыл бұрын

Kapton / Polymide for a 10-20 x Higher Voltage per mm alternative to polyethelene. Great video thankyou.

@forrestmorgan3222 9 жыл бұрын

Sir You are Genius. I wind large Ruhmkorff Coils, and started with Layered, at 9 years old. My Coils work fine. Finding the "best" capacitor, is more trial and error then math. Oh to have a brain like Yours.

@RimstarOrg 10 жыл бұрын

I won't make a video of it but what capacitance are you trying to get? How much voltage? A low inductance mineral oil one is tricky (on first thought) since for low inductance you'd want to connect along the entire length of each capacitor plate, not just at the ends of the plates. Since for mineral oil you'd likely be submerging the plates, only one end would be sticking up.

@vusiliyK 11 жыл бұрын

I love this.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Ah, thanks for clarifying. And I agree that adding layers of insulation between the electrodes changes the capacity. But if you're going to be using a certain voltage range then your capacitor will have to be able to handle those voltages. Since it affects the capacity, you'll have to change something, like increase the surface area, to increase the capacity at the same time. That's why at 1:11 I refer to my video that talks more of the variables.

@TrashcanScienceStuff 5 ай бұрын

hi first thank you for the simplified explaination that i could not have found anywhere else on the internet, and i have a question please, that capacitance formula is there a similar formula for batteries i am trying to make a salt water batterie using zink and copper electrodes and i wonder if there is a similar formula to calculate the estimated capacity and voltage 🙏🙏🙏 and thank you

@999manman 11 жыл бұрын

Most appreciated....I shall look them up...sadly, our local Radio Shack just turned into a US Cellular store..sigh....

@saritalowynevin 9 жыл бұрын

hi i like your video so much. is it possible to modify a power inverter to power up 75 volts and 500 amps. gadget from a 12 volts battery??

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

It's used for this purpose quite a bit; it wasn't my idea, I was just following common practice. From wikipedia it's used "in transformers where it is known as transformer oil, and in high voltage switchgear where mineral oil is used as an insulator and as a coolant to disperse switching arcs." It's not considered flammable because its flashpoint is above 100F/38C, but is considered combustible for the same reason.

@RimstarOrg 10 жыл бұрын

You can definitely find it, but just made by a different company. It's use in electronics for helping prevent voltage breakdown. Look in electronics stores and electronics supply websites for "corona dope". It has a very high dielectric strength/breakdown voltage. Look in electronics stores and electronics supply websites for "corona dope". I just put a link for you in the description for this video to the webpage of the manufacturer, MG Chemicals, part number 4226.

@ExoticHacksXD 11 жыл бұрын

what would be the best kind of capacitor to make to charge to a very high voltage then release that energy. basically use a AA battery (or any dc voltage under 12v)to charge to 50Kv

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@dalenassar9152 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for making all of these great videos--you are a natural. I really enjoy the math and physics that you use. I had ti write about something in this video that I briefly saw at about timestamp 3:30 ...It was too quick for me to be sure but that reddish variac there looked like one in a large group that has a very dangerous flaw. In the ones with an outlet (and perhaps others too) the HOT and NEUTRAL lines are reversed! Just set it to about 115v and test it with one of those home mains testers. Do you have any plans on using the N2 laser as an energy source for the photo-electron emission in the photoelectric effect. I remember briefly discussing it some time back.

@RimstarOrg 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip. I'll check my VARIAC. It's been leaking magic smoke lately anyhow so its due for an overhaul anyway. Re the N2 laser and the photoelectric effect, I do recall our discussion about it and have it on my todo list. Just haven't gotten around to it.

@stijntje111 11 жыл бұрын

As a test of dielectric i put the electrodes of my 9000 Volt transformer to a sheet of 3mm glass. The glass din't break but I hear a buzzing. Do you think there is energie loss between the electrodes?