Beautifully written

Very well said. Thank you for sharing. I relate to that as well.

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Or you will see him in heaven. I just can't see hiking alone and taking a risk just for the fun of it. But yeah, my risk while hiking would be at the time when it's a do or die situation or when I realized I was lost. It would be a risk choosing to go left or right.

I can't thank you enough for your brilliant and succinct analysis. PS: I saw the short in which you introduced your wife. That was a touching tribute to the beautiful person you chose to make your adult journey through life with. Too few of us acknowledge or give credit to our better halves on a regular basis. Your knowledge, presentation, and genius are a rare combination of higher cognition, neutrality, empathy, common sense, and really good advice. I recommend you to everyone when the subject of you tube content is discussed. I wish there were more Dr's with your insight and obvious intent to help people navigate more consciously and thereby successfully through the myriad of life's most intense circumstances. Love, a grateful fan. XxxOoo Thank your wife please. I appreciate her also.

How do you know he was lonely?

I know he was lonely because I am very wise and very old. I can"t imagine not having the comfort of another human by my side when or if I ever die!

Introverts find being alone revitalizing and being around people draining.

@@indiaandrews6996I’m a pretty extreme introvert but still need SOME human interaction. We aren’t robots.

​@@diane4094 I pray that he is happy in heaven 🙏😞

And like any unsafe situation, let someone know where you're going and your estimated return time/date.

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@DynV that's the #1 correct step. Stuff like bear spray and PLB and modern map are extra layers.

The extremes, no? Wilderness versus metropolis? There are treks that offer solitude without death.

@noway-uf7pe :)

If you’re weak minded it can affects you. Most people got bullied even the bullied got bullied and even growing up people get bullying all their life. And the victims also bullying others weaker ones. It’s really part of life that people should navigate through it and not use as an excuse

You're a lot stronger than you think my friend. Stay strong!

Good decision. While you are slowing down you can use the time to think out your more thorough preparations for future hikes.

Yes please get a beacon also ❤

My husband loves to hike in remote places that never have cell reception. I understand his need to connect with nature, my only request is that he takes a GPS tracker with SOS capabilities. I don’t want him to feel trapped, but I need to know he’s safe. I’m glad you found your way out of a sticky situation. Maybe a GPS system would help you, too? Stay safe. 😊

Wow glad you made it okay.

I'm the same.

Maybe this was the best way for him to go? Doing what he loved.

@@oleopathic I can sometimes understand this, but on the other hand I think it’s really tragic for something that once brought you peace and happiness to turn on you and be the cause of your death. Fully aware of what’s happening, slowly. Idk.

@@oleopathicit’s a horrible way to die.

@sba8710 death by starvation surely is.

Canadian here . . . I am baffled by this man's death. This is totally survivable.

I've done multi-day backpacking trips in the snow when it would get sub zero overnight. It's absolutely awesome, no bugs, so quiet. That said, you have to be completely prepared or it could get dangerous very fast. I usually had enough warm clothing that I would be sweating if I didn't take layers off. At night you'd be sweating in your layered sleeping sacks, then freezing as you let in a little air to cool down. It was funny, we'd be completely covered by our mummy bags, just leaving our nose and mouth out to breathe. You'd get frozen condensate on your tent so you'd basically wake up in an igloo. This was pre cellphone days, but I'd never go solo, and we always had multiple people that knew our location and expected return time.

I'm a novice mountaineer, no seriously big climb or anything, but I've bivied at elevation over 10,000ft on occasion in unheated tents during the Winter Season at near 0 Fahrenheit. Even with all my layers on and wrapped like a mummy, its painfully cold at night, had to cuddle my water bottle so it wouldn't freeze. I can't imagine how agonizing Mr. Olshansky final days must have been as his supplies ran out. While awful, his lack of preperation was fatal, I take it his clothing may not have been adequate and neither were his boots insulated since he complained about his toes often.

Death by exposure takes three hours or less.

Lol Canada over here not understanding that peoples bodies have varying capacities of circulation and body fat levels, musta been a ghost that done did him in;;; So right, his mistake was not being in Canada/Canadian, thank you for your insight.

You have my admiration. I am so glad I live in Australia though!

Yeah out here if you don’t have snowshoes or cross country skis, you better hope to find a snowmobile trail or it becomes a fight for survival.

@noway-uf7pe ....I wonder how much it would cost for a good pair of light weight snowshoes. As a kid in school in the late 70s, our little city would have Winter Festivals. Using sinew and wood to make snowshoes. And us kids would have to learn how to wear snowshoes. They are like wearing tennis rackets.

Thinking at age 60 he didn't possess the requisite stamina is probably not the issue. Maybe a stubborn old fool embarking on a foolhardy trip and ill prepared going against the advice of his friends even. May he RIP🙏

@@mangafq8 ....clearly you've never trudged thru waist deep snow with 50lbs of gear up a mountainous terrain at the age of 60....while wearing improper foot wear. Yes he was 100% unprepared for the experience, These extreme hikes will make, break you, or even kill you. But he had to find out the hard way.

As in…(when leaving civilization). I’m Otter here.

@@AnarSchism. It's a big ol' RV-accessible ROAD! If he was able to find Lagunitas from his campsite three miles away, surely he could follow a ROAD.

Would the road have been visible with all the snow?

@@jordanlyd8691 Absolutely. An RV-accessible road in the wilderness is pretty hard to miss. Plus, stop the video he took (4:42) when he was still at his campsite 3 miles from Lagunitas. You can see his footprints there, and the snow looks to be no more than about ankle deep. The sun is shining brightly. Yet he stayed there almost two weeks "waiting for someone on a snowmobile to come along." (Had he no idea how VAST the Carson is?) I could almost wonder if this guy wanted to commit suicide, but also wanted to soften the blow for his family and give them closure (dying in a place he was BOUND to be found). In any event, NOTHING he did suggests the work of an experienced outdoorsperson.

@@pricklypear7516 The problem was he had been stuck at his first camp too long before he got to Lagunitas. He was likely out or nearly out of food. He wouldn't have had the reserves of energy to both hike and do the camp prep. It might be an RV capable road, but it sounds like two to four feet of snow. You can make snowshoes, but if you have to keep adjusting and repairing them, that's another drain on energy.

You are right, I didn't see any deep snow cover either. @@pricklypear7516

Ya it’s not like you get a badge of honor for preferring to be a lone wolf in a mind controlled sick society….

Christians and religious people are the biggest bullies

Huh I’m a little puzzled why he wasn’t better prepared and didn’t survive. Set traps forage push that SOS on your Garmin. TA DA saved. And get a map, mark it out the route your going to take. Leave that back home. I’d make skies out of wood not flexible tin. I went for a hike and found springs a cinnamon colored blackbear, a spring filled up an area shaped like a doughnut, where all the trees all the wood was taken off of them. There’s just long tree trunks going straight up to the sky and it was a sanctuary for all these birds in beaver and deer and they never seen people they weren’t scared and didn’t run away, I found old moonshine bands where they had the drums to keep the moonshine in and old jars and bottles that were at least 100 years old. When prohibition was I made a man who lived on an island not a picture of his dad sitting in the kitchen with Al Capone doing his moonshine run. I found magazines that were over 100 years old old stoves I guess the worst thing about camping and hiking bugs, but even bugs can be managed. Sloping and falling is the biggest problem. Emergency blankets are light. As an experienced hiker he should have been more prepaid. Leaving high probably contributed to him not being prepared.

He chose his own poison. To me it seems like he wanted to take that risk. Him saying no to take a map with him, was an indication of that. Maybe he wanted to die in the wilderness, but started to regret it as it was about to happen. Maybe he at the end got what he asked for when he started that trip.

They did look for him when he failed to contact Ben as they previously agreed, right? Only, they don’t know where he was. 💁

@@MadeByChinkee oh for sure. Not saying Ben didn't. I'm saying he must have believed Ben didn't look for him, or failed to notify authorities, etc.

Can't blame anyone for getting stuck into dessert. I like dessert myself, especially cheesecake.

@@Orion3Tafter midnight I was stuck in a glass of milk and cookies.

@@Orion3THe probably turned to the dessert because of an existential crisis....that's what I usually do.

Is he the one who went looking for the M shaped cave entrance. And probably fell into a mine shaft.

He did this one a couple months ago 😊 just scroll back to “Area 51 mystery”

Yeah I bet perv

Stop flirting, cat lady.

Very interesting and thought provoking comment!

A friend and myself actually got lost for about 20 minutes, just a few feet from the trail. Fortunately two ppl showed up and we could get out. They were the only two ppl that showed up, because we got back on the trail and wandered around for about an hour before heading out at dusk.

Good. Stay out of the woods then. Less people to ruin it for the rest of us.

If you’re prepared and don’t take silly chances all will be fine. Sounds like this guy wanted to die.

If you acquire the right knowledge and skills and make sure you have the right boots, cloths and gear, you will in reality never be really lost and never in danger. Get the knowledge, get the skills, have the right gear and you have nothing to fear.

Then it might help to just not go into the wilderness. Or at least not without a competent adult.

Nothing up north here other than mountains and trees. Nearest towns would be Chama, Taos, Red River, Cimarron, Raton. Blips on a map. Carson is fucking huge

The wilderness anywhere is no joke, not just in NM.

I get the point, but respectfully disagree in this case.

I do this all the time and have done since I was 15 years old. Both totally alone and with a friend or two. When you have the skills and know what to do, is if far from as dangerous as many things that you most likely do all the time. Like driving your car. Crossing a busy street on foot. Being in areas where crimes happen. Or a lot of other things. I can survive for weeks or even months in the wilderness with only what I can carry with me. Of course you need to accept that you might die if something very serious happens, even if the risks of that are very low unless you are a complete idiot.

And not look at a weather app or anything

@@The_Judge300- And realizing that you may be putting in jeopardy the lives of search and rescue crews.

Or if you have one of the last several years worth of iPhone models, you already have a locator beacon with you. They have a satellite emergency feature that kicks in if there’s no reception, allowing you to let someone know your location without needing a cell signal.

@@The_Judge300 - I guess I’m just not a risk taker.

There is a big difference between walking around in a local bush or forest area or hiking in the wilderness...!!

You are overreacting. I suggest you get professional help with overreacting. You are far far more likely to die from lifestyle choices like a poor diet and lack of exercise or from an accident like in a car. You are 99.999% going to live to see home after a hike if you take basic precautions like the ones listed in this video. Carry a PLB, hike prepared both with materials and training, and leave a detailed itinerary with friends who will call SAR if you fail to return. Being a triple crowner, meaning he completed all the AT, PCT, and CDT, probably made Otter complacent in terms of taking basic precautions, which as Otter would have admitted was his mistake.

Happy Thanksgiving! 🍁

@@smooth_pursuit Thanks! You too!

@@cht2162 What?

Wow that is quite a menu!. That must have taken days to fix.

Must be nice to have a family, and so many foods at one meal. Wow.

My daughters, english so unused to such places, went to angels landing, one went blythely up and the other didn’t, crying and begging her sister not to go. The one that didn’t go is the wild one, full of daring. She was just so scared for her sister. Said tame sister afterwards doid more and worse terrifying things!. You can never tell really which one is the nutter.

Yes, a suicidal move I thought

I sold my gps too and I'm not suicidal. 🙄 It's beyond obnoxious when people say things as if it was a fact, when they are actually just speculating.

@@AdelineCowgirl Yeah, but did you go on a winter mountain hike alone right after its sale?

He was just low on funds. Also he was super high on weed, which impaired critical decisions, and may have gotten the flu... that's not suicide. He was an extremely experienced long distance hiker who perhaps got too comfortable because of his extensive, excessive of 4000 miles, of trail hiking on the AT, PCT, and CDT, deciding on almost a whim to head south on the cdtin alpine areas way past the time of year that he should have.

@@steveshea7725 Steve: You appear to make my point. All very tragic.

I came across that story a short while back - I'd second your call for Dr Grande to feature Keast in an episode as I'd like to understand what compelled his actions. In that awful weather, too.

Yes I agree but the policy to punish the child being bullied if he fights back or even if he doesn’t along with the bully is all wrong

​@@marymorningstar6832That is probably why, growing up, my dad always told my brother and me that if anyone were to ever lay their hands on us, to knock em out. Luckily we never faced those issues, but my dad faced those issues within his own home growing up, and one of the lessons he seemed to have learned was what you are saying in your comment: don't punish people for finally standing up for themselves.