Risky Business From COBRA! Is It Worth It? We Test the Cobra Fortis 17B Cylinder Mower

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Risky Business From COBRA! Is It Worth It? We Test the Cobra Fortis 17B Cylinder Mower

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Cobra have made huge strides in the UK garden machinery market over the past 10 years and this is their latest introduction, the Cobra Fortis 17B Cylinder mower. We compare this new machine against the Allett Kensington 17B. With interchangeable cassettes for scarifying, aerating, brushing, verticutting, de-thatching and 10 blade cylinder. Is it good? What is the warranty? Should you consider one?
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@jossmith1990 Жыл бұрын

The cobra looks a smart bit of kit, good strong metal construction!

@Paul_C_Music Жыл бұрын

Great review! I’ve just got the 17b after my Allett Classic went bang. It’s a different league to the Allett Classic, really solid well made piece of kit. The blade is really thick too

@donjohnson3701 9 ай бұрын

This is a whole new world for us in the states-rotary cylinder mowers, rollers...fascinating technology! It seems like these mowers are commonplace in the isles. Cheers mate from across the pond. Thanks

@HughesEllis Жыл бұрын

I've had the Cobra Fortis 17 for about a month now and love it - have the verticut attachment too

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

Awesome to hear the feedback, thanks Ellis 👍🏼

@KensSmallEngineRepair Жыл бұрын

Great video James. It seems even Allett employees are commenting about it (Laura/Tara) Interesting!

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ken, yeah seems so. I hope you are well sir 👍🏼

@grahamhowland566 2 ай бұрын

To me the Allet is and always has been a rebranded Atco and the Atco was kinda the cylinder mower a homeowner bought because they couldn’t afford a Ransomes. Now the Cobra has come along looking much closer in spec/weight to a Ransomes but at a fraction of the cost of the Allet I can’t see how Allet can compete, it was easy enough for them when they were pretty much the only ones still doing cylinder mowers but now they have some very strong competition

@MachineryNation 2 ай бұрын

Sounds about spot on mate. They do now have competition. I’m sure they will up their game to compete 👍🏼

@Jordan.E Жыл бұрын

The cobra's definitely taking the lead against the allet by the looks of it, woupd be good to see how it holds up long term

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jordan. Yes that is always the big question for new products. Cobra have always been pretty good with the back up, so I would be confident 👍🏼

@eddiecotter7201 Жыл бұрын

Great video lads thanks for that,very interesting machine and nice to see a bit of competition in the cylinder mower world,i just wish they could cut higher with these machines as its a bit harder to see the stripes when grass is cut so low and it shows up any little defects in the grass also,allett make great machines but they are so expensive,my god the new battery powered allett stirling is near 5 grand so its great that a company can come along and give them a bit of competition,time will tell how the cobra holds up but it all looks pretty impressive from what james has shown us

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

Thanks Eddie! Yeah 100% great value. Cylinder mower just don’t work well in long grass, hence why they don’t cut higher I guess.

@michaeljames7472 11 ай бұрын

Great comparison video, thankyou - does the cobra have fold down handles for storage. Thanks 🙏

@DJC995 Жыл бұрын

Hi James Looks good with my limited experience of cylinder mowers Thanks again

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

Thanks Darran 👍🏼

@russellpetrie119 Жыл бұрын

be interesting to see how well the verticut works on them and if any goood on deep grass

@themowerman Жыл бұрын

Good honest review.. Allett didn't have the budget for me to review one apparently......

@TARAWELSH Жыл бұрын

We don’t pay people to do product reviews . It’s very fake! Of course you’re going to say it’s good when you’re being paid

@themowerman Жыл бұрын

@@TARAWELSH I don't get paid.... I did mine for free... And the mower is going back...

@thehcuk6061 Жыл бұрын

Hi Laura (@TARAWELSH) Can't see any problem with a bit of healthy competition in any market. I cant see anyone here bad mouthing any Allett products. Its up to the consumer to decide at the end of the day.

@themowerman Жыл бұрын

Well said... Allett have been around for a long time and have definitely leads the way forward... Even into the battery range for both home users and commercial .. and with the lawn academy knowledge will be shared around...

@RogerB-ey1nh Жыл бұрын

Nice review thanks. Maybe Allett will revert their prices back to 2019 levels now.

@jokeaaaa Ай бұрын

Not a chance

@topconker2909 Жыл бұрын

Great info vid James.

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

Thanks Phil 👍🏼

@dazza14778 Жыл бұрын

As a commercial gardener the cobra range running kawasaki motors are awesome they not a brand to be frowned apon,

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

Yeah their Kawasaki engined handheld machines are pretty good value.

@fixitorstripitGardenmachines Жыл бұрын

Both nice machines.

@titianobsidian6549 4 ай бұрын

I've had a allett Kennington for a few years now, it's always been lightweight for a cylindermower, plus it's an old design. They are a useful machine if you can pick on up second hand at a good price but there are better alternatives around these days.

@FriendsOfTheRoad 6 ай бұрын

Had alook in the cobra website, the prices of the mowers and more importantly the accessories are sooooo much cheaper then allet equivalent.

@tinkeringtaylor3053 Жыл бұрын

Great review James, lines are that straight you will get a job at wimbledon next year 👍👍

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

Thanks Nev! Yeah they seem to be getting better, don’t tell anyone but I had the GPS turned on 😂😂

@tinkeringtaylor3053 Жыл бұрын

@@MachineryNation 🤣🤣🤣straight to the pub

@RJLgardens Жыл бұрын

Nice review. I do like my alletts, but those cobras sure look good. I know what i would be picking given the £800 price difference, Team grey all the way. 👍

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

Yeah they are a popular machine, I think they now have strong competition. 🤩🥳

@Funknwanker Жыл бұрын

Any chance this will be available in the US?

@jossmith1990 Жыл бұрын

I can see the cobra being perfect for a quality machine for cricket clubs and sports surfaces. A lot of village and small clubs have a limited budget but want something that will stand the rest of time. If cobra need a club to test these… I know one 🤪😉

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

Bang on Joshua! The amount of times these small clubs end up buying an old dog to do the job, now an affordable quality option is available 👍🏼

@derrasenmaher9730 Жыл бұрын

The Cobra seems to be a well built machine, if you keep it maintained it could be a real alternative. Time would tell us how long it last. But I think the real key to reliability is maintanance 👍🏻

@themowerman Жыл бұрын

I have to say it ... The cobra Fortis is a great mower... And it's going to be a challenge for Allett to match it..

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

I agree Mick. I have your videos to watch this evening 👌🏽🤩

@themowerman Жыл бұрын

@@MachineryNation lol don't bother..... It will send you to sleep 😴

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

@@themowerman I doubt that! I had to hold back watching until our video was complete 😂

@TARAWELSH Жыл бұрын

Match it mick? They copied ALLETT Even copying the stripes competition The best form of flattery!!

@TARAWELSH Жыл бұрын

@@SCC842 can you link me to this? Allett have been doing it since around 2012 where they worked with the telegraph under a marketing agency .. you may be thinking of britains best lawn

@Premier_lawns_official Жыл бұрын

Nice review, but your lawn 😱😱😱 Nice to see more more competition on the market. What's the support like for break downs with Cobra?

@peterchaloner2160 Жыл бұрын

Cobra have a nationwide dealer network, so wouldn't be a problem, but just about any specialist dealer will be able to help.

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

Not my lawn, haha! With all other Cobra machines, they have been pretty good with back up, better than some major guys of late 👍🏼

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

@@TARAWELSH Ok thanks Laura 👍🏼 I’m guessing you didn’t watch the full video then? I compared cartridge change time on both and I showed how to adjust the height of cut on both. I’m also guessing you didn’t read the video title.. as this video was about testing the Cobra Fortis, being that it’s a new machine to the market and we compared it against the most popular on the market, quite standard stuff really. The Allett cartridge I used was your offering for Aeration and the Cobra cartridge I used was their offering for Aeration.. As this video was about the new Fortis machine, I picked the cartridge that was the most different from the others, if it was the other way around, I recon you would of done the same. It’s a shame you have deleted a lot of your other comments on this video as I was going to reply to another one of them. Anyway let’s leave it there, as it is what it is.

@roberthamilton2334 Жыл бұрын

Bought a 14 inch suffock punch wish I had of knew about this cylinder mower prior.

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

Sell the Punch! And get this!

@roberthamilton2334 3 ай бұрын

I agree ,I'm very impressed with the Fortis

@Big_Johns Жыл бұрын

Nice review James, you're making me want to try one of those, will I have to mow from the left side of the yard since its from the UK? 🙂

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

I will ship one over to you John 😂

@Big_Johns Жыл бұрын

🤣Just throw it to me like you did for Steve.

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

@@Big_Johns that could work… i’m off to the veg garden, I’m guessing if spinach worked for Popeye it can for for me 🔋🔋

@Big_Johns Жыл бұрын

LoL!!! Worth a try 🤣🤣

@TARAWELSH Жыл бұрын

its from china.. not the UK

@petefroud5308 Жыл бұрын

Allet Kensington is a Atco Balmoral SK . The Cobra nice looking machine . Works well.

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

Yeah, when ATCO sold to GGP years ago, Allett purchased the cylinder mower, plans, tooling and engineers at the same time I believe. I hope you are well Pete 👍🏼

@petefroud5308 Жыл бұрын

All good thanks James.

@WildlifeClips365 Жыл бұрын

thanks. I was the first person to like this video. I think I should get a reward. 👍

@10titanic10 10 ай бұрын

Did the weight difference make a difference? I have an alley but find it to be too light.

@MachineryNation 10 ай бұрын

Yes for sure! The weight will defo aid the quality of the stripe as well as when using any cartridges to hold them into the ground especially when using on spongy think thatch areas.

@GregsMowing Жыл бұрын

Austin won't be happy. Didn't some Allett guys go to hentons thus this coming out? Good comparison, huge weight difference.

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

I’m not sure mate, thanks for the feedback 👍🏼

@mr1pearl Жыл бұрын

Besides its got such a cool 😎name 👍

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

Yeah for sure Bill! It is pretty cool!

@danefredrickson5682 4 ай бұрын

Is this available in the United States?

@russellpetrie119 Жыл бұрын

it is nice to have more than 21 inchs mowing but they realy need to work on an easier way to change the cassetes

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

The Cobra Fortis range goes up to 25” 🤩and as you can see from the video, changing the cylinder was about the same time as the allett, if it was not for the awkward Allen bolts.

@sweeyong7756 Ай бұрын

I gonna catch the all.

@adamhormbrey388 3 ай бұрын

Would the cobra be good enough for a bowling green?

@FrankEdavidson 2 ай бұрын

Try the Fortis20FTB / 25FTB with a 10 bladed cylinder? An Allett sports model?

@richardportelli1983 Жыл бұрын

An upgrade from the Allet for sure. Keen to see if they export to other countries. Allets are a bit overpriced for my liking.

@themowerman Жыл бұрын

A friend of mine is exporting them to Germany

@TARAWELSH Жыл бұрын

ALLETT are made in Britain and not China

@roger4880 Жыл бұрын

@@TARAWELSH You sure every part in the Allett mowers is British? Nope they are not, so clearly state that before making ridiculous comments. Ego motors, handle bars and batteries are not made in the UK but Allett uses them. Greenworks batteries in the Liberty are not British. Where are the plastic cogs in the drive mechanism made? What about the steel in the blades? How about the rubber in the rollers? What about the paint? Please do explain we are waiting to hear.

@TARAWELSH Жыл бұрын

@@roger4880 you’re welcome to come and see ALLETT mowers being made in Britain.

@roger4880 Жыл бұрын

@@TARAWELSH Maybe I'll take you up on that. Who do I contact? Will you show how the Ego batteries are assembled on site? Can I film my visit and share with my Instagram Lawn followers?

@noelcahill6707 Жыл бұрын

How much is the cobra and can you get it with a wider cut

@themowerman Жыл бұрын

They do. 20 and 25inch

@HughesEllis Жыл бұрын

I just picked up the cobra 17 inch for £1040.00

@noelcahill6707 Жыл бұрын

@@HughesEllis was looking on line the 25inch is 1900£ thats not bad at all really

@canalboating Жыл бұрын

impressive stuff from COBRA, I have the atco balmoral (earlier version of the rebranded Allet) and to be fair underneath all the hype the allett is pretty poor on build quality at these prices the cobra is a no brainer

@themowerman Жыл бұрын

You will not be disappointed

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

It has a better build quality underneath for sure.

@TARAWELSH Жыл бұрын

your mower is 15+ years old so an old design.

@jonathanpalgrave1972 Жыл бұрын

The alletts are largely the same design they have been since the 1990s. Cobra has moved the game on

@TARAWELSH Жыл бұрын

@@jonathanpalgrave1972 the qc range are yes with slight adaptions over time.... the stirling is a new mower from allett from the ground up with innovative features eg quick cartridge change... a better comparison to this model

@s.kxx1956 Жыл бұрын

£800 difference!! 😮 wow !

@themowerman Жыл бұрын

@@TARAWELSH unless I'm mistaken.. cobra Fortis under kaaz. Made in Japan... Not china.. big difference.. I'm not saying Allett is bad , far from it . Allett is a name you can trust and I have had the pleasure of working and using some... I had a problem with the new cobra mower and within 5 mins someone rang me back to confirm my issue and the support/service is in place in the UK.. you have to look at it both ways.. not everyone can afford an allett and the choice is for the customer.. have you tried a Cobra Fortis yourself yet..? I'm telling ya... It's a good mower..

@themowerman Жыл бұрын

@@TARAWELSH I stand corrected.. it's still a good mower.. having used one myself

@s.kxx1956 Жыл бұрын

@@TARAWELSHit may well be, but at over £2k for a compact cylinder mower is really pushing it no matter where and who its made by. I remember seeing i think atco royale a very large machine for around about that price

@roger4880 Жыл бұрын

@@TARAWELSH Allett jacked up their prices over the past 3 years, yes we have high inflation but this does not account for the increases and now there is the Sterling cash cow mower, what a joke price. At that price I'd buy a Dennis or Toro everyday all day over an Allett and so would any experienced greenkeeper/pro/lawn nut. Allett had good mowers at good prices, now not. Accept it or keep up the moaning comments.

@roger4880 Жыл бұрын

@@TARAWELSH True, but I have the costs for Allett and Hayter, the Hayter mowers went up but far less than the Allett's. Everyone's costs have risen, the question/point here is that Allett are in the camp of lets rise above inflation.

@PBRF77 3 ай бұрын

I really want a cylinder mower and I'm probably a bit of mower porn lover. I have a hilly garden though, so is a Cylinder mower going to work. I really don't want to spend £1k and then up with something I can't use. Any advice. Currently have a Stiga Twinclip 55 S-R H BBC Self-Propelled Rear Roller Petrol mower

@Clearanceman2 Жыл бұрын

Eventually Harbor Freight will make one $249.99.

@richardportelli1983 Жыл бұрын

Already have cheap ones from several companies, but they are toys compared to a proper machine.

@jasperedwards2713 Жыл бұрын

allett near truro

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

Allett are based near Stafford I believe 👍🏼

@jasperedwards2713 Жыл бұрын

@@MachineryNation allett a small village near truro i know because i used to live in redruth i go by bike all over

@TARAWELSH Жыл бұрын

Hixon

@jasperedwards2713 Жыл бұрын

i dont like spindle mowers i prefer flail mowers

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

Yeah they do two different jobs to be fair. Cylinder mowers for fine turf and flails for rough. Cylinder mowers work like scissors and flails rip the material off at speed.

@FIamingMoeBUBU Жыл бұрын

Very poor comparison on the cut. The lawn tested on was very poor as anyone thinking of purchasing either of these machines would surely have a lawn if a much higher standard. The quality of cut didn’t get the a detailed comparison it deserved as this would be the main reason for parting with a four figure sum for a mower. Are you being sponsored by Cobra for this review?

@MachineryNation Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your feedback. The video was fundamentally about the Cobra as mentioned at the beginning of the video. We had the Allett as the best known for comparison. To summarise the Cobra could do everything the Allett can with like for like results when mowing, but the cobra is £800 cheaper, is of a better build quality and offer a commercial warranty. Hope this helps you in your purchasing decision 👍🏼