Rocket Science also y do I lose so many of my 50v50s?

Thank you

Same

Me too

yea any solution for that ?

@@TunedMk3Gti no but if u find one please tell me

@@chillaxdude5275 it's so annoying, ping gets high completely random 4-5 times in a match

just makes me sadder :/

Thanks

Rocket Science I wish you luck in getting GC 👍! And nice explanation of that topic. I look forward to watching more upcoming video. Keep up the great work.

RL sends way more data than gta or r6 because there are more physical interactions (i.e. ball to player, player to player) and the speeds that the objects are traveling at are way faster. A man moving an inch too far in a shooter because he lost a packet isn't the same as a car moving across half the field because he lost a packet.

OutOfRangeDE hey just wanna let you know, you’re actual ping hasn’t changed, it’s just calculating the extra time that was previously on input lag.

Shin-no-Ken i think only yours is effected as the others show the same for all players. The client sends the ping data, so that everyone can see it. When its wrong (not 60fps) then everyone will see the wrong number for that player.

This makes sense, but it is also possible that the server pings the players itself and then sends those accurate pings to the other players; this would be slightly more efficient for networking as it would be less information per packet for each client to send to the server.

Shin-no-Ken yeah right but then it would also only effect the players ping with the "wrong" fps

Great question! Forgot to talk about it in the video but we did test this. OutOfRangeDE is correct. The client sends the ping data back to the server, so when I locked the frames to 15FPS, everyone was seeing my ping at 0.

I'm in the Netherlands and I mostly play on very fast internet speeds. I always play on 144+ fps but I usually don't get more than 24 ping, with it often being 4 or 8. Did you test this deeply enough? It does not seem to apply to me. Maybe it has something to do with hz settings too?

Erkin honestly I don’t blame them. There are so many ignorant people blaming the server for their latency variations

Tyro yeah but I live in germany have a 12ms ping in some games but in RL it just doesn't feel good.( Considering me and my friends who do scrimm 2s alot together ) All of us have 16ping on 60fps (We live in the same Area). How come ? Bad routing and bad servers.

Erkin maybe it’s just in your head, but it might be because your internet speeds vary up and down a lot and a quick change in internet speed can cause some of the worst lag

no no they dont. We have very stable connections but the virtual servers are absolute garbage 50s feel strange and in ranked its even worse so it is the opponents sometimes but also the server.

Connection settings worked for sure in the beta and the first day of the update. When I set all to low, the game was an unplayable mess in 3vs3. When I set everything but client rate to high, my game felt the best it ever felt, I had no rubberbands and people didn't accelerate in an impossible manner. Few days later it stopped, I thought it was because people have started to use correct settings, but it looks like Psyonix simply disabled them.

i recall seeing a GDC talk, the server saved last inputs back in time as well as client send not just the latest inputs, but several inputs, and if 2 cars hit the ball at same time, the server recalculated the physics using the "new" information from the 100ms client. that's why you can sometimes see the ball bounce/jerk in 50/50s at high ping.

Um Patch 1.43 rum hatten die Server wirklich für ein paar Wochen schlimme Probleme. Das klingt einfach so als wärst du davon betroffen gewesen. Mittlerweile laufen sie aber wieder normal.

No, that's exactly what this system tries to prevent. Your simulation will try to predict ~90ms ahead of the server (based on data lagging 90 ms behind the server) so that lag compensation is unnecessary. Your inputs should arrive in time at the server and if they don't then you're screwed because the server doesn't accept them anymore. The player with low ping will only predict very slightly ahead of the server and will get corrections much quicker.

Rocket Science ok thanks. That make sense. Also is it to possible to test if all the servers predict the same way? Say if on different server that has the same ping. For doing the same hit on the ball do they predict the same way? Sometime when I play with 160 ping on different server, I feel some times other play hit the ball really far away but some time closer with really high car speed

I forgot to say that I only have a 60hz monitor

And when I play with vsync I can play at play nearly highest settings without any problems but I want to play with less input lagg

OTZ MDR 3 ur internet

Same

If you are on xbox, check the amount of clips and screenshots you have. Delete all to most of them if you have a lot and you will quit lagging.

Daniil Zotkin I do

It can't have anything to do with the opponents based on how the netcode works. That part has to be placebo. It does sound like your getting small spikes of latency variance or packet loss on your download. As far as I know, the indicators for those issues take a bit of time to show up on the screen so they might never show up if you just have a very short spike where you drop a couple of packets and then it's back to normal. It's pretty hard to test something like that so it's just a suspicion.

in the video: objective explanations in the comments: gotta be placebo lol

Well, I was a bit too vague with my initial post, I see now that it's not easy to tell what I meant, so I will rephrase myself. I do not see any lag indicators when my issues happen. I sometimes see people accelerating in an impossible manner(more often than not it happens in meaningless situations, fortunately) or making small teleports and hitting the ball pretty much at the beginning of the flip animation like in the video,, often times people seem to be too far away from the ball and they make a contact with it, making 1v1 situations too hard for me, as it's often impossible to know if people are going for the fake as it can look like they do but they end up hitting the ball when being too far away from it. Also something that is probably quite normal, but I often get rubberbands, people seem to go through the ball and then the ball quickly changes the trajectory. Kickoff timer also gets desyncd rarely which made me concede quite a few kickoff goals. It sounds like I have some packet loss or out of order packets, but I have used tools to try and measure it without success. For packet loss, I used ping plotter with UDP packets. For out of order packets, I played some unreal engine 3 games(Chivalry;Medieval Warfare, Natural Selection 2) and enabled net stat. According to these, my connection is very stable in terms of packet loss and out of order packets(both at 0 all the time) with 1-3 ms jitter. In addition, all these issues pretty much vanished in the first day of the update with connection settings. I used client send rate at medium, rest on high and my game worked so well. Few days later it went back to how it was before the update. They stopped working because Psyonix disabled them on their end?

Do you play with wifi?

No, I use ethernet cable straight to the router.

Decent? If you're playing within city you should have 0 ms.

The server doesn't measure the ping. The client does and sends the ping data back to the server.

Rocket Science so does the Client measure ticks received per frame or something like that?

Probably something per frame, this is all I know: www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeague/comments/8m1aed/netcode_lag_explained_with_lots_of_examples/dzkgnam/

what

like, you cant blame the massive inconsistencies that are present on "we cant do better guys" because other games have done it better in the past.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by poll rate? I talked about packet send and receive rate in the video. If you're talking about something else then you'll have to explain what.

Sorry, I haven't made an update on this yet but they fixed that issue in Patch 1.48 so your ping should always be correct now.

he probably meant that you should call your ISP when its not rocket league that is the problem, but your connection. So i'm from germany and every evening between like 7pm-22pm i get a 120 ping because terrible lines and too many people in my area are using it. Sadly "kabel deutschland" wont fix it, they don't care. I still get close to the 200 down and 12 up that i should, just ping is terrible...

Yes, that's the most stable connection you can have. "Powerline" adapters are usually a bit better than WiFi, so that would be worth a try if an Ethernet cable is not an option.

Rocket Science alright thanks man! Love your vids! They're so dense it gives me a lot to think about!

Higher tick rate = higher cost on servers = negative impact on servers. And that's literally what they are doing for prediction, can't predict last millisecond decisions though, which is what causes the ghost hits

Darkness Volt they usinf 64 tick rate atm, they could go higher without the negatives, but only to 84

HamHat my ping is always 150 and up 😂

@@michelabuzaid same here

That's not it. You can have a high FPS and a low ping, and they're not connected. He's just pointing out that the rate of packet-sending is a little bit above 60, varying up to 75/sec, and therefore theoretically you *might* get a tiny bit of additional stability if you're playing at 60fps (but that doesn't mean playing on a higher FPS monitor will actually cause problems). My ping is about 20ms, and used to be 8ms in my old city, so it can certainly be lower. Yours simply is what it is. As he said, the rate is a compromise. If it was faster, it would be more vulnerable to instability. Packet-sending isn't even the whole picture (the ball has a physics tick rate of 120/sec).