The Station Toronto Needs

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Few transit projects offer as many benefits at a cost as reasonable as a second downtown rail station for Toronto, which is why in today's video I make the ultimate case for Cityplace Station at Front and Spadina. Check it out and share it!
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@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

If you enjoy this video and think this is a project, we should build here are some steps you can take to help. 1) share this with your local politicians city counsellors and MPPS 2) share the video! The more people that see it the more people that send it on!

@localareakobold9108 Жыл бұрын

ever seen the Antwerp central station ? it has multiple layers of departure stations underneath.

@kc-nv5yi Жыл бұрын

Surely there’s a way to get this in front of Phil

@zenvd04 Жыл бұрын

Love that you addressed the need to "protect for the future" and I understand the prioritization of the Lakeshore, Kitchener, and Barrie lines as they are currently in the process of being upgraded. BUT the Milton line will be upgraded to 2-way all-day (2WAD) at some point and it would be a huge miss to not future proof the station for the inclusion of that service - heck service could even begin without 2WAD as many of your arguments still apply even if the line currently only runs 1-way during rush hour.

@brunhildevalkyrie Жыл бұрын

While I fully agree with you about this new station, all that density is somewhat misleading, as most skyscraper condos are left unoccupied because they are owned by greedy investors who only use them as investment items, not housing.

@AMPProf Жыл бұрын

BRFORE this all Dies.. TRY ANOTHER responce Video!

@sjokomelk Жыл бұрын

As a Norwegian, I approve the use of "a Norway" as a measuring unit of number of people. 😁

@davidreichert9392 Жыл бұрын

I think that we should call Reece's proposed station "Little Norway"... because there is a park not too far from there actually called that.

@japanesetrainandtravel6168 Жыл бұрын

@@davidreichert9392 that’s neat, I am actually down there right now so will check out this park

@davidreichert9392 Жыл бұрын

@@japanesetrainandtravel6168 Enjoy! There should be a plaque or something in the area explaining the history of it.

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

I’m happy to hear it 😂

@kevinlove4356 Жыл бұрын

@@davidreichert9392 After the Nazi occupation of Norway in 1940, this became a training base for the Royal Norwegian Air Force. After the war, it was converted to a park. The King of Norway came to the official park opening, and gave thanks to Canadians for our contribution to winning the war and liberating his country.

@charlesalexg Жыл бұрын

You must have put so much work in this video, it's excellent. And this is very much the station Toronto needs.

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

Thank you it was months of work! But I care which is why I spent the time!

@ButteryBao Жыл бұрын

I’ve been saying this for decades: the city needs to buy 2/4 TBMs and have a goal of building 2-4 stations every few years. Over a decade or two you’d get a solid rapid transit network that is properly interconnected. The fact that the well exists where it does now is a slap in the face

@sanjarsocool Жыл бұрын

and an addiction to filling up every pocket of development with a station lol

@illiiilli24601 Жыл бұрын

@@sanjarsocool based

@pinnacull Жыл бұрын

@@sanjarsocool that should be the goal, and would reduce car dependency which is desparately needed in canada.

@dennislittlefield4169 Жыл бұрын

I've worked at Union Station, and this vision is exactly what would help.

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

I agrée! 😂

@abubakarmaster Жыл бұрын

amazing as always, which local politician should I call to make this happen

@BrandonSchleifer Жыл бұрын

Probably Caroline Mulroney, Ontario Minister of Transportation

@peachulemon Жыл бұрын

@@BrandonSchleifer we should send them emails. 🤷🏾‍♂️ Better then nothing

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

All of them! Especially Councillor Malik as this is her ward, also your MPP!

@appa609 Жыл бұрын

Mayoral elections start today

@bradypotter8237 Жыл бұрын

Gong.

@funsohng Жыл бұрын

"Skydome" I felt that.

@JustinJamesJeep Жыл бұрын

As an Aldershot to Union rider that exits union and walks west i highly approve of this message!

@Fan652w Жыл бұрын

Thank you Reece for an extremely well-presented and argued video. Just one footnote from a Brit brought up 55 kilometres north of London. The THAMESLINK north-south line across London is just as important as the east-west Crossrail/Elizabeth. Note, too, that both lines have no less than FIVE city centre stations.

@KingFinnch Жыл бұрын

also, london has 14 terminus stations for full size trains

@KaiHenningsen Жыл бұрын

@@KingFinnch That, however, is not something you want to emulate.

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

Yep! Tons of coverage of the urban core! Thanks for watching!

@jan-lukas Жыл бұрын

@@KaiHenningsenwith a city as large as London, it kind of becomes necessary to have multiple. 14 is too much, but like 5 should be enough. Because you don't want that many people on only few stations

@frafraplanner9277 Жыл бұрын

@@jan-lukas Tons of city center mainline tail stations isn't a bad thing if they're all connected, like an S-Bahn or on the Yamanote Line

@tdb7992 Жыл бұрын

You could easily build a deck over those tracks as well, and sell some of the air rights above tracks for new towers. In that way, the project has paid for itself. If you deck over the area, you could create a new public square (like Federation sq in Melbourne) to better activate the area.

@rantingrodent416 Жыл бұрын

There was a lot of noise about creating a rail deck park not long ago, but that seems to have died off in the public consciousness.

@TheTroyc1982 Жыл бұрын

The air rights are already sold and a developer will build around 10 towers there

@TheTroyc1982 Жыл бұрын

@@rantingrodent416 air rights were already sold and the approval process for 10 towers there is well on its way

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

@@TheTroyc1982 could definitely approve more density with a big Station though!

@innosam123 Жыл бұрын

@@TheTroyc1982 Do you have a link for that please?

@bradkarsh6022 Жыл бұрын

You should run for office. Great idea! I hope those in power pay attention to your smart ideas.

@TheTroyc1982 Жыл бұрын

Toronto council has very little say on transit projects in the city and no say for GO projects. All these decisions are made by the province

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

I’m not sure office is for me, but I’m always open to sharing ideas!

@j134679 Жыл бұрын

Reece for governor general of Canada!

@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un Жыл бұрын

"A SkyDome" ah yes, my favorite part of Toronto when that building was called the SkyDome was when Meilin Lee's mom wreaked havoc on the area during a 4*Town concert and absolutely destroyed the whole place because her daughter was attending said concert. But hey, glad to see it's back to normal after they raised a charity in the Lee Family's Temple to accumulate enough money to rebuild it! Billy Bishop is definitely a solid and unique airport. Don't have to take an express train to Union or a pricey taxi from Pearson because you're already in downtown, you get to the airport by either tunnel or one of the shortest ferries ever, the views are wonderful, it's named after a beast of a Canadian flying ace from WWI who had 72 victories, and it's ranked one of the best in North America!

@ClairvoyantTruth Жыл бұрын

The thing with the overcrowding at TTC stations, Union, etc. I never see discussed by politicians or anyone is what happens when there is a fire or shooting causing a mass panic? There will be a stampede into small staircases; it's a tinderbox that needs a single spark.

@WillGallagher1 Жыл бұрын

Just recently visited Toronto for the first time in many years and was surprised by how overwhelming Union was and also how much construction is happening all across the city. Toronto is truly BOOMING. I didn’t really remember from my past experiences just how massive that gash created by the rail lines is in downtown, severing the city from the waterfront. I know it wouldn’t be cheap, but I do think filling in the area above the tracks would make downtown feel a lot more connected to the lake & pleasant overall. Especially if that “filling in” includes more public gathering spaces and a new secondary station. Things I do love about the TTC include the ultra wide cars & platforms (I’m used to the claustrophobic Chicago CTA). Also, Toronto gave me serious street car envy. They are so much more pleasant than riding busses, especially on busy routes, but I totally see your point about how some of them could be justifiably replaced by a full metro line. They’re a bit slow so I could only see seriously riding them for for the last km or two of a journey to connect with the heavier rail.

@ergosteur Жыл бұрын

This is really makes so much sense, I hope people in charge are watching.

@WilliamChan Жыл бұрын

Eloquent, well-thought-out videos like this are what actually promotes change. Will do my part to advocate!

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the kind words!

@rudivandoornegat2371 Жыл бұрын

Often great ideas are simple, but somehow nobody in charge has come up with that before. Worse is when the idea is known, but still no movement to implement it.

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

I agrée, it’s quite disheartening

@alanthefisher Жыл бұрын

If only there was another dense North American city with a through-running rail system with multiple major downtown stations, also with fare gates and EMUs 🤔🤔🤔 Either way I hope that Toronto gets this built

@yazanmowed Жыл бұрын

Is it Philadelphia?

@stevepellerin8629 Жыл бұрын

Naw, it's Detroit.

@carpanatomytony Жыл бұрын

I like how you called it the “SkyDome”! ❤

@hammerth1421 Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised this didn't come up in your video on Hamburg because the situation at Hamburg Hauptbahnhof is really similar. With 550,000 passengers a day, it's the second-busiest train station in Europe and it isn't built for it. Since 2010, the German national rail company DB classifies it as an overencumbered railway section. Trains have as little as 4 minutes of stopping time, leading to terrible cascading delays if they start missing their time windows.

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

I did mention how it’s extreme centrality was odd

@timothyamancioau Жыл бұрын

Love your videos and your analysis of transit in Toronto. I really hope you are lobbying Metrolinx and sharing your videos with our policy makers. What you propose makes TOO much sense. This needs to be shared with the politicians and decision makers!

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

You should share it too!

@AverytheCubanAmerican Жыл бұрын

I was just about to bring up NYC as an example of a place with more than one termini! In addition to operating at Penn Station and Grand Central Madison, the LIRR also has service at Atlantic Terminal in Brooklyn. Service to/from Atlantic Terminal is mostly a shuttle between it and Jamaica as the result of Grand Central Madison and of course it's not in Manhattan, but it still serves an important area: Downtown Brooklyn and its proximity to Lower Manhattan. Thus, the Atlantic Branch serves not just Brooklynites but also those who work in the Financial District. Not to mention, on top of all the subway services that stop there, Atlantic Terminal is also next door to the Barclays Center so it's useful for events at the arena as well! And while not a terminus, there's also Jamaica station in Queens, with "Change at Jamaica" a quintessential part of living on Long Island. Exhibition's design reminds me a little bit of Jamaica, and I think that design would indeed look great for a CityPlace station! Toronto has an opportunity to make things a whole lot easier for people going into Downtown Toronto, and Spadina-Front station...is not it.

@felixtv272 Жыл бұрын

I think a station there would be really great, but I am strongly against any kind of development above train tracks. It makes reconfiguring the tracks or changing/expanding the station so much more difficult. You may think 'just build the station right the first time, so you won't have to rebuild anything later', but you never know what the future will bring, and you always need to remember that planners that designed our current infrastructure probably thought it their plans would be how to build it right.

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the towers and development are already happening

@mdhazeldine Жыл бұрын

TOTALLY agree with your vision/idea. Toronto needs it's own Clapham Junction / Vauxhall / Stratford. I don't love oversite developments, as I think they may stations dark and depressing and make it difficult to move stuff around underneath once you've built them, BUT, if that's the only way to get a station built, then I'm all for it, because a station with oversite development in an area like that is better than no station at all.

@AL5520 Жыл бұрын

As a non Canadian this is basic in many places, but adding ine station is only a temporary solution as a long term solution should be a RER/S-bahn type thing - making Union Station a pass-through station, and add a few stations along the main corridor (I wouldn't dream suggesting a new tunnel going through the city itself) with meaningful connections to other transport means.

@barryrobbins7694 Жыл бұрын

It looks like East Harbor is getting ahead of the NIMBY problem. Maybe new station coordination should be a requirement before major housing and business developments are constructed.

@sjappiyah4071 Жыл бұрын

I love your insistence on saying “Skydome” instead of “rogers centre” 😂 True Torontonian spirit

@drdewott9154 Жыл бұрын

This project really should be a nobrainer! Heck several more GO stations in the downtown area should be no brainers like Bathurst too! Heck in Copenhagen we have 4 stations right in the heart of the city for our S train network, 3 of which also serve regional trains from further out. We have Copenhagen Central at the southern end which opened in 1911, Østerport at the northern end which opened in 1897 as the terminus of a railway to the north, Nørreport which is fully underground and opened in 1918 along with the Boulevard Tunnel, a large Cut n Cover tunnel with 4 tracks through the city. Between 2002 and 2020, Nørreport was even more heavily used than Copenhagen Central, and finally Vesterport just a few hundred meters north of Copenhagen Central, built in 1934 exclusively for the S trains upon the opening of that system.

@SpektakOne Жыл бұрын

13:06 Finally! I’d love an update on the Dundas West/Bloor connection! As someone who missed the train to the airport last week due to me needing to run the full length of the subway platform westward and then navigate that distance back eastward, any update would be appreciated! Funny, while I waited for the next train, I started Googling info about this connection, and the only thing I could find beyond the Wikipedia page was your channel’s video from the pre-COVID days.

@veonnisual Жыл бұрын

The bidding for the contract to build the tunnel closed 2 months ago. Construction should be starting shortly.

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

@@veonnisual it’s really exciting!

@earthsteward9 Жыл бұрын

Interesting. You might want to get maps of housing/job density plus projected density for downtown to supplement your proposal

@brennan_ Жыл бұрын

Whenever I take the Lakeshore GO from my parent's place, I get off on at Danforth and hop on the subway to skip the union busyness. More stations to give more options like that would do wonders for commuter rail in the city.

@vlorpflash112 Жыл бұрын

yep i do the same often on the kitchener line but at bloor go (dundas west)

@davieee1168 Жыл бұрын

I can vouch for this. Visited Berlin this summer, took the train from the airport to my hotel in the city center. My stop was one station before the Central station. This was awesome, because I could walk to my hotel from my stop, and at the same time I didn't have to ride further to the central station, thus avoiding being stuck in a crowd in Europe's largest train station...

@MaxCheng95 Жыл бұрын

That broken voice of “sucks” in 8:25 says a lot about just how bad it could be without actually looking at the ensuing inages

@pindermf Жыл бұрын

Awesome proposal! You’ve laid out the policy and customer experience case quite well. Would love to see Metrolinx respond with some technical analysis.

@KyrilPG Жыл бұрын

This proposition makes me think of Paris' Bibliothèque François Mitterand station (M14 & RER C) which is located on the tracks heading in/out of Austerlitz mainline (and suburban) train station in the 13th district. After the RER and metro station was built, they covered and built up a large portion of the tracks with new mixed-use and high density buildings. The rail tracks / yards area covered and built up is now a little over a kilometer long. That created / completed a whole new and booming neighborhood. The tracks' "beam" continues to be covered & developed and will probably be almost entirely covered in the near future, only leaving the very last bit closest to the mainline station as open-air. So, I think your idea is great and should be followed by a project the sooner the better ! Let's root for CityPlace station !

@xfinity319 Жыл бұрын

As a daily GO commuter I completely agree!! Another station like union should’ve been built years ago! Toronto is a massive city.

@kabongpope Жыл бұрын

We need this so badly!

@dznrboy Жыл бұрын

the Go platforms at Union can get very scary at rush hours they are so narrow and over crowded, you have to stand back and wait for people to clear to get to the concourse below otherwise you risk getting pushed onto the tracks, there is a huge need for 2 more relief stations for downtown Toronto near Union. With all of the development happening it's going to get very inadequate very quickly in the coming years. They should also ban cars in that area and give transit priority.

@EdwardChan.999 Жыл бұрын

"It's the station Toronto needs, but not what Toronto deserves." -Batman probably

@bearcubdaycare Жыл бұрын

This highlights a flaw with hub and spoke from a center. When I visited Paris, the metro seemed relatively centerless, with each line making a big arc, interesting each other line two places, so that one could get everywhere to anywhere else with, typically, one change. This worked well. Hub and spoke systems seemed congested, and they limited frequency due to the constrictions of a central station.

@douggray169 Жыл бұрын

Great video. I was just up to Toronto last week for a charity bike ride. I took the go train from oshawa and got off at exhibition. Union would have been more convenient, but I just didn't want the hassle

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

Indeed, more options would be great

@vap57 Жыл бұрын

Your research always astounds me! You make a good case here.

@TheLiamster Жыл бұрын

I think this is a brilliant idea and it should definitely be built

@OntarioTrafficMan Жыл бұрын

To enable frequent services through Union, we need much wider platforms, and therefore fewer platforms. To fit the number of trains within the limited number of platforms, it is critical that trains have much shorter dwells than they do today. Which means that we need to drastically reduce the number of boardings/alightings per train. Exhibition and East Harbour will help somewhat once the Ontario line opens, but they might not divert enough ridership on their own, and a larger Cityplace station would complement them nicely.

@vtubermasterchef9045 Жыл бұрын

I love these videos, I will do my best to get the attention of politicians by sending them this video.

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your support 😊

@ianallaby9276 Жыл бұрын

How about calling the station Canoe Landing, since it's close enough to Canoe Landing Park. The GO tracks run where Toronto's shoreline used to be. That's my suggestion.

@harrisonthorburn7415 Жыл бұрын

9:00 I grew up in the suburbs of Toronto and commuted to Downtown everyday for work for a very long time. And I can tell you that every single day I got a little lost in Union Station, it really is that bad.

@widgetb Жыл бұрын

I've never been so aware of a problem and so uncertain about the solution. This video is great! I often travel Hamilton to Toronto and then do a myriad of things... while some of them would be easier if I didn't have to come into Toronto at all, most of them would benefit from the option to get off at Spadina. Amazing.... now if only that was the plan.

@StressingBabies Жыл бұрын

Man, I live in CityPlace and the fact that the Well didn’t have transit in mind really is the epitome of Toronto.

@lilfur Жыл бұрын

I appreciate sooooo much that you call the Skydome by it's proper name. 😊

@coachbobbarnes8715 Жыл бұрын

Very persuasive. One comment in particular struck a chord with this Montrealer: protect it before somebody builds something else in the way. You brought my mind to the Centre Bell, stupidly built where train tracks used to be, and now separating three commuter lines from the beautifully historic Gare Windsor. So sometimes, we already have amazing infrastructure and we STILL manage to make a mess of it! Sigh...

@VerWRLD Жыл бұрын

You read my mind! I visited Toronto a couple of weeks ago, and we were staying on the west side in Parkdale. Arriving using GO, we had to get off at Exhibition, but it was still a 25 min walk (with all of our stuff) because there was no transit between Queen St and the station. The nearby Queen St and Dundas St streetcars were our lifeline, but the subway was essentially obsolete for us unless we were already in the middle of the city. There is so much going on at Spadina, it felt perfect for a place for another hub. The west side seemed to live or die by the streetcars, as the subway and Union were simply inconvenient.

@JGGNGHS Жыл бұрын

Very good proposal!

@Da_Big_G Жыл бұрын

With HS2, they chose stations for London that largely to different transport lines. If you are going to have a "secondary station", this is the best way of doing things, as it can help to spread things out.

@engine42 Жыл бұрын

Thanx for all the videos. And the impression of interchange in Union Station. I think you need more sub-hubs and interchanges in this city (like you said). Best in each direction of traval / corridor, so some ppl can change trains heading outside before congestion in the inner part. I dont' understand why all this unserved businesses especially the mall do not demand a subway-connection.

@Kevin_C_Leonard_63 Жыл бұрын

Lost in the discussion of why Boston has 2 rail terminii, North and South Stations, that aren't directly connected to each other is that the city does have a 3rd major rail station. Many of the same trains that serve South Station, including the Acela (!), also call on Back Bay Station, which connects with the Orange Line subway that also serves North Station. The Back Bay area has developed into Boston's 2nd CBD with offices, shops and residential areas around what amounts to the city's only attempt at an orderly street grid, laid out when the neighborhood was first conceived from filling in what in colonial times was literally a bay, part of the tidal estuary where the Muddy River joined the Charles.

@ompurnam108 Жыл бұрын

Some of your best work Reece!! 😍 👏 🙌

@eternalcanadiandevyt Жыл бұрын

Great video as always! I'd like to hear your thoughts on the planned Durham BRT through Pickering and Whitby. I don't think you've made a video on it and it would be the first addition of "rapid" transit to a large part of Durham region.

@tomdarling-fernley3178 Жыл бұрын

Informative video. Great idea. A couple of thoughts: 1) Wouid it be feasible to pair different lines so they shared island platforms? The interchanges mentioned could be improved if they didnt need a change of level. 2) Releasing capacity at a station like Union is always a good idea. 3) No integrated fares?! That's unacceptable.

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

Pairing. The other lines is possible, but would require some complex flyovers.

@Skip6235 Жыл бұрын

Anyone who says that Toronto isn’t big enough for a second downtown commuter rail station should look at Chicago. Comparable sized city, three downtown commuter rail stations.

@eriklakeland3857 Жыл бұрын

Chicago has LaSalle St, Union, Ogilvie and Millenium. All serve Metra lines terminating there.

@Skip6235 Жыл бұрын

⁠@@eriklakeland3857I forgot about LaSalle, even! 4 stations!

@Skip6235 Жыл бұрын

@@peterc2254yep! I used to make the transfer from Ogilvie to Union every day for 5 years.

@wheeliebeast7679 Жыл бұрын

Chicago Union is the main, and the only one with potential for through routing, something that should have been done when it underwent a massive renovation back in 1969 (nice). Especially given that there's no direct connectivity to the 'L' from there, and that all but one Amtrak routes pass in close proximity to 'L' stations on their way into the Loop. (And the lone Amtrak exception did pass close to the 'L' until about 30 years ago, a segment that was torn down due to the complaints of a NIMBY megachurch)

@jasongibbons9373 Жыл бұрын

This is possibly my favourite video you have ever made! 🎉 Great insights, common sense, blunt commentary, and great solutions suggested! Keep up the great work Reece.

@gim-bp6fu Жыл бұрын

here in the hague we have two very large main stations serving the city center and 3 main stations all throughout the city. Toronto is a larger city and absolutely should get a second main station imo

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

And the Netherlands is pretty good for its railways 😊

@stevendurick9441 Жыл бұрын

Another fellow Aussie city with multiple inner-city stations is Brisbane. We have Roma Street Station, Central Station, and Fortitude Valley Station which all of the Suburban and Interurban rail lines serve while Roma Street is the primary terminus for regional trains. With Cross-River Rail coming, the inner-city will also get new stations in Albert Street Station, and Exhibition Station (Exhibition already exists, but it's rarely used now and will be getting upgraded as part of the project). Additionally Roma Street will get a new underground station as part of the project

@jackwynne19 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic video as always

@Mellowcat. Жыл бұрын

I agree Spadina would be a good one. I think we also need a hub of sorts near Pearson, either near the Malton station or Woodbine. Not sure any other would really work but Malton would make for a great hub to YR, Brampton and Mississauga as well as to SWO with the Kitchener line.

@stefanspasojevic9106 Жыл бұрын

I'd love to see the GO trains to go all the way to Windsor, crazy idea but I think it would really be awesome and the current VIA Rail service is awful

@drgwdrgw Жыл бұрын

As a test, you try the GO train to London to see how well you'd endure four hours in a commuter car.

@stefanspasojevic9106 Жыл бұрын

@@drgwdrgw I have and I didn’t mind it. I’ve taken trains in europe for the same amount of time and it isn’t as bad as you make it.

@TeriyakiJack Жыл бұрын

Extremely well done and researched.

@noone101 Жыл бұрын

This is great and you are absolutely right

@kriswarren2469 Жыл бұрын

You are 100% correct on this

@theendometriosiswarrior Жыл бұрын

great video! so well done. here's hoping the city will one day take great suggestions like this into consideration!

@wallydall8570 Жыл бұрын

We have something very similar here in Dublin. Heuston station mainly serves intercity trains down to the cities of Cork, Waterford and Galway, along with commuter trains on the Hazelhatch/Celbridge line, while Connolly station serves most of Dublins commuter routes and the services down to Rosslare and the enterprise up to Belfast. Its also very easy to get to and from one another via the Red line on the Luas streetcar.

@tylerdotapp Жыл бұрын

i’m genuinely surprised Toronto does not have a a “City Circle” or “City Loop”

@zephaniahgreenwell8151 Жыл бұрын

Sounds awesome! 😎👍

@charlesdundas9490 Жыл бұрын

Loved your views on having a second station in downtown Toronto. Please let our political leaders know what your vision is for our city. I really believe you should be apart of a NEW team that advises our transit leaders how to build new transit for our 21st century. You've got my vote Reece.Thank you. You're a great advocate for transit.

@zzRider Жыл бұрын

Wow! You really put a lot thought into this video.

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

Glad you think so!

@abdullahrizwan592 Жыл бұрын

another great idea Reece!

@newsjunkie7135 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's so annoying that the platforms at Union station are so narrow!

@harrymain9467 Жыл бұрын

In a way it sorta reminds me of a slightly larger version of Edinburgh's Haymarket station, the central rail corridor runs from just west of Haymarket to just east of Waverley, the main station. Both have tram connections and are under 2km from eachother, only real difference is Haymarket serves all trains except sleeper services, has only 4 through platforms getting ~48tph in the peaks and one terminating platform used for events or maintenance on the main station. It also gained significantly more traffic since the closure of one of Edinburgh's terminus stations (Princes Street) in the early 60s

@toakodan Жыл бұрын

I think a better name for a new station would be Blue Jay or Billy Bishop Station. It probably wouldn’t take much to create a more direct link to the airport while having a station that exits people more or less directly in front of the SkyDome/Rogers Centre would be insanely helpful. You could even have trains stop separately at union and the new station, like ones coming from the East going to Union as LSE-A and the ones going the new station bypassing Union completely as LSE-B. The inbound west ones would simply be LSW-A and LSW-B as well. As someone who frequently goes to Blue Jays games having a GO Station just outside would be amazing and I’d have less feeling to rush. Plus people going to a Leafs/Raptors game wouldn’t cause such a massive wave getting on/off at the same time as Blue Jays fans if they went to different stations completely. And with like you said, it would ease the traffic at Union by quite bit!

@simoneh4732 Жыл бұрын

This is my kind of advocacy. Thanks!

@a.-lp3jv 7 ай бұрын

Excellent video! That proposed station reminds me of Zurich‘s secondary station „Oerlikon“.

@qwazynes Жыл бұрын

Love the videos!

@samuell.foxton4177 Жыл бұрын

I would say that the section where all GO trains run together should have a station about every 1-2km, functioning as a sort of s-bahn for the inner area, and that should be a no-brainer

@camward957 Жыл бұрын

Excellent suggestion.

@jonathanlin7874 Жыл бұрын

Great video! This proposal makes a lot of sense! I just emailed the video to my local MPP

@sjsomething4936 Жыл бұрын

One of the huge misses during the reconstruction of Union was having the subway and the most dense railway lines (in terms of people-carrying volume) arrive at the same level so that it’s possible to walk straight from trains onto subway or vice versa. It’s a disaster right now navigating through Union to get from one to the other. Given the billions and years that were spent, it’s nuts that this didn’t happen. The other station that Toronto has needed for decades (like since the 80s and 90s) is a station *right at* the 401. Quick off ramp from the highway to drop off a passenger who needs to take transit and then the driver can resume the highway travel while allowing a passenger to jump on public transportation would allow a lot of flexibility for carpooling as well as people being given a lift to visit the downtown area, or even people flying out of Billy Bishop. Integrating and making easier interchanges between public and private transit makes public transit a more attractive and accessible alternative.

@hugoboyce9648 Жыл бұрын

Really great video!

@japanesetrainandtravel6168 Жыл бұрын

Yes, Yes and Yes! This is definitely the station we need. As you mentioned, many people tend to head west from Union Station, so I wonder if it would be better to just terminate Kitchener, Milton, and Barrie Trains at the proposed station, terminate Richmond Hill and Stouffville Line Trains at Union and have the Lakeshore Trains as through running services. I really hope city and provincial leaders take this video to heart!

@Spysatuplink Жыл бұрын

I recommend against it. The other station isn't connected to the subway system, which many still rely on. If Kitchener, Milton, and Barrie terminated at the "Cityplace" station, the only fast connection to Union and the subway system is the Lakeshore line. During rush hours it runs every 15 mins at best, and usually 30 mins all day. Therefore they may have to budget up to an additional 30 mins to connect to the subway system if their final destination isn't around "Cityplace". GO Transit already has complaints in a different situation when they rerouted the Milton bus (when trains aren't running) to a train station on the Lakeshore line instead of Union Station - people hated waiting for the connection, which could be an extra hour.

@TheRandCrews Жыл бұрын

I thought they’ll be combining the Kitchener & Stouffville Lines and Richmond Hill and Barrie Line as well as the Lakeshore Lines being all through running trains except Milton of course

@TheHoveHeretic Жыл бұрын

Great analysis Reese. You made a very interesting comment about having the wrong facility in the right place. Could you expand, with a few classic examples? I fear that, too often, it's such wastes of money which stymie schemes and cloud peoples' view of (admittedly eyewateringly expensive) infrastructure projects. One for a future video, perhaps?

@captaintang1 Жыл бұрын

i don't like videos too often but this one 1000% deserves it. Great content and idea....I just hope if it does go forward it will be a bit quicker than the Eglinton LRT (A bit).

@HK6 Жыл бұрын

This makes a lot of sense and seems perfectly reasonable. Which is exactly why it will never happen.

@Quazgar_of_the_North Жыл бұрын

Very tightly argued, well done!

@michaelcolella4760 Жыл бұрын

Great idea - the other issue with just Union Station for downtown is how HFR/HSR gets proper access to downtown Toronto given the constraints at the station (and track approaches too) from the East. this is 10 or more years away but it is not going away unless the HFR procurement comes up with a solution!

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

I’m not too worried about that, there’s a lot of capacity!

@frozeninthesnow Жыл бұрын

Thank you for correctly calling the stadium the SkyDome.

@youtube7076 Жыл бұрын

9:20 "opens directly to spadina" also means direct access to the spadina streetcar with its right of way too! :+D

@johnhope2772 Жыл бұрын

We need to make this happen. Who do we need to call??

@RMTransit Жыл бұрын

Your local MPP and city councillor!

@miesterZD Жыл бұрын

This is the station that’s needed in the city!

@jonathan_careless Жыл бұрын

Incredible video @RMTransit. I'm constantly amazed at the depth of your knowledge on these subjects. Question... I never knew that electric trains could climb steeper grades than diesel trains. Why is this?