In 1993 i was for three or four days in Malaysia near the Kuantan AB to see Skyhawks, but I was only able to see one of these birds at two traffic patterns. This was'nt so succesfull... 😂 But since a few years we have in Germany some former Israel and now civil Skyhawks for target practice of the german air force at Wittmund AB. I live in Bavaria and Wittmund is sadly at the other end of Germany, but yeah, I was there now two times for watching skyhawks and maybe this September or next year in spring I will go there again...

And those of us on the ground can throw rocks and insults at any enemy, now that we have been disarmed....The army and airforce certainly aren't going to be able to help us

It was probably the mic crackling from the noise of the jet

Yes it is when clean and in a dive. I personally heard the sonic boom when serving at Ohakea !

***** they are still flying just not in NZ

They have big bro Australia. I don't see in what scenario would Australia just stand by if a hostile country somehow got it in their head to threatened New Zealand. Not that there's anything in NZ worth embarking on such a venture anyway. Did NZ have territorial dispute with anyone worth mentioning? With the People's Republic of Antarctica maybe?

Fadly A. Rahman the point is we should have to rely on australia or the us or the uk. Its humilating and lazy to burden them with our defense

Thing is, we had already paid a deposit of tens of millions for brand new F16's which PM Helen Clark cancelled, and then spent 5 times that lease deal on the NH90! We could of got surplus refurbished blackhawks for a fraction of that, and still leased the F16, and with budget surpluses over the last ten years bought extra frigates and new C130 J, C17 even. Not poor by any means,Treasury is just blind, stupid to the dangers we face and tight fisted with cash.

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We have a very similar problem in Ireland. We once had the Light Strike Squadron consisting of 6 Fouga CM170 Magisters. Now they weren't much but they were better than nothing at all. They were retired in 1999 and never replaced, leaving the Irish Air Corps with no jet combat aircraft to this day. As you mentioned, the FA-50 would be perfect for both Ireland and New Zealand's needs, i.e. air policing, interception etc. Capable of Mach 1.5 and cheap to buy.

Nz missed the deal of century with the F16s basically 20 aircraft for 30million.

Have you ever seen a Skyhawk in the flesh? They're great.

Yes, Blenheim.

Cinnabun NZ should buy Australia FA 18 A/B hornets they are still a very capable aircraft many had upgrades to them while Australia gap wait on F35 A JSF fighter. Australia will have 24 of F18 F super hornet and EA growlers electronic jamming aircraft, as also 100 F35 A JSF stealth fighters serving by 2018 till 2045 Australia older FA18s would make a good replacement of the NZ A4 skyhawk till 2035 it will give NZ time to come up with money for a modern fighter jet, at least the F18 hornets will protect NZ till its end date the F18s still match enemy aircraft and are good dog fighter, add a few upgraded anti ship missiles and AMX9 sidewinder missiles and free fall bombs NZ will have a good aircraft for anther 20 years. Australia is only getting rid of them because the ADF required a later air craft that is 5th generation and larger for upgrade bombs as the older FA18A/B hornet cannot carry as much weapons as the super hornet can or the F35 A JSF, though it is still a capable fighter and would be perfect for NZ

Anchialem Gale problem is, NZ doesn't like military spending, we're very anti-war and any military spending is frowned upon, especially with the growing child poverty in the country, would be a bad time to invest in jets.

Cinnabun​ it is good NZ anti war after ww1 and ww2, and korea and Vietnam who can blame you, though every country needs to have a active military , even though you try to avoid war sometimes war comes to you even if you don't want it. It is better to be able to defend then be defenceless, there is to many dictators today and to many other allies who can pull us into a war unexpected and unready to make that mistake to be defenceless. I know Australia will fight to save NZ to our last man if we had to, as USA had told Australia take a shear of the burden and arm to defend before asking help, it may suck financially though Australia is arming our military. 

Anchialem Gale Yeah, I think it's because people feel we're so isolated we're at no risk and dont pose any threat.

Cinnabun​​ Russia Navy made it's way down to our warters there is no such thing as isolated as to be to far, it is 2015 not 1945. The point is, it is better to arm then not to, just think of the consequences just if it does. Who knows if one day Indonesia decided to try to attack Australia and New Zealand ? Australia will have a defensive retaliation though will New Zealand ? What if Indonesian try to invade NZ just to cause a second flank on Australia, it could happen, Australian radars are not protecting NZ as also NZ have no air defence to even put up a defence. Crazy thinking mate, it is better to inspect the uninspected than to not. All I can say is NZ you are crazy to let your guard down, especially when growing concerns with China North Korea and Indonesia, let alone Russia Iran and the jealous nation India. many of these countries I mentioned above are only waiting for us to disarm while they build there's , then watch out allies, and you know what, it will be our fult to trust them and to let our guard down. Our old diggers will be shaking there heads at as, as the fool.

US govt said they couldn't be sold to private owners. So that was that.

Styan Barron Yes, but that only applied to buyers in the US, in the end they did manage to sell some of them to a private company in the US, was just alot of paperwork and bureaucracy.

nzoomed None are allowed to fly in NZ as there are no US approved operators, and the fact that it is to much of a capability for a civilian to operate.

A good number of the A-4Ks and MB-339s were purchased by Draken International, a private contractor firm for aerial adversarial training here in the US. To honor the origins of the aircraft, they still sport the distinctive dark green camo and even RNZAF kiwi roundels.

I think that was a harrier

Yes they were Skyhawks, I remember because I was obsessed with Skyhawks as a kid.

The most ironic thing to me is those “clapped out” a4s are still harrying american fighter pilots in the us at redflag every year

Yep its good option

Australia will be getting rid of load of F/A -18s as the F35 enters service.

We almost did. Jenny shipley ordered i think 30 of them during her tenure as PM in the late 90s but then the ex-pot smoking anti-vietnam war protesting hippie comrade helen became PM cancelled the order then scrapped the entire air combat wing in an unforgivable act of treason.

No one does. It was utter madness by a marxist lunatic who cared more about a future job in the UN than her own fucken country

Hahaha how did that work for you? Look at the mess nzfirst made of the county

zero chance. sellout winnie has cuddled up to the marxists.

@@themadmgtow5196 Labour are a capitalist party if you look closely. Calling them Marxists is an insult to real Marxists.

It would buy us time though till we get some help. A small determined force can be a big pain in the ass for an invading force

@@LogieT2K if anyone was going to invade they would have a container ship stacked high with jets and lav in containers then roll into a port after it was taken by paratroopers or marines

Then find out that the local people were only the worst pack of cunts they'd ever seen then decided to call it a day and *Fuck Off!!!* The End... 🖕🖕🖕🇳🇿🇳🇿🇳🇿

You and all your mates with rifles would be easy meat for a foreign fighter jet.

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@@douglasnakamura6753 we would never bloody know unless we tried. How about a M107A1 50 cal rifle with high explosive rounds chambered might do it? Albeit a massive fluke but other than that you are right my friend.