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Roadside Discovery of Naked Man Leads to Convoluted Mystery | Noah Presgrove Case Analysis

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Dr. Todd Grande

Dr. Todd Grande

Күн бұрын

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@leslievasquez2645
@leslievasquez2645 Ай бұрын
So called friends wiping their phones clean just screams innocence, right?!
@LukeSumIpsePatremTe
@LukeSumIpsePatremTe Ай бұрын
They are innocent until proven guilty.
@leslievasquez2645
@leslievasquez2645 Ай бұрын
@@LukeSumIpsePatremTe I didn’t say anyone was guilty, nor did anyone else
@Noodlepunk
@Noodlepunk Ай бұрын
I think he was in the back of a truck and feel out anf got run over, people panicked and fleed. They migh have even been recording the shenanigans.
@WOWCAT22
@WOWCAT22 Ай бұрын
@@LukeSumIpsePatremTe Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, not in the public's eyes.
@WOWCAT22
@WOWCAT22 Ай бұрын
@@Noodlepunk You're not making any sense. How is that possible? There was no blood trail or evidence of a hit and run that was ruled out no glass, no debris nothing. Stop being so clueless in my opinion. This was no accident this was murder.
@lj7460
@lj7460 Ай бұрын
Noah’s family must be suffering- not only did they lose Noah, but not knowing how he died is horrible. It’s devastating and sad.
@bold810
@bold810 Ай бұрын
Jesus knows what you are saying. He understands perfectly. I am drunk AND stoned right now, I don't plan on switching hirses mid-streamed. No Sir. 🎉
@michaelleigh859
@michaelleigh859 Ай бұрын
We know he was murdered by someone at the house
@charliechurch5004
@charliechurch5004 Ай бұрын
​@@michaelleigh859I would be looking carefully at who's shorts those were. As if that person took them back. I think it has something to do with that birthday girl. She was very pretty probably loved attention and maybe flirted around and the dudes there just went wild. So so sad.
@Lily-wk8kv
@Lily-wk8kv Ай бұрын
@@charliechurch5004that’s true I didn’t even think of that
@deucedeuce1572
@deucedeuce1572 Ай бұрын
@@charliechurch5004 Hard to say without evidence. For all we know it was a random attack (crime of opportunity). Have seen it happen before and we can't really assume anyone's guilt without evidence.
@moriakpotato
@moriakpotato Ай бұрын
With friends like these, who needs enemies.
@alainpreveaux2428
@alainpreveaux2428 Ай бұрын
It is interesting to note that the only member of the party to attend Noah's funeral was the best friend. No one has reached out to console the victim's family
@leslievasquez2645
@leslievasquez2645 Ай бұрын
They’re hiding but they can’t do it forever
@lesliebednar5426
@lesliebednar5426 Ай бұрын
Just demonic
@the.chronic.ironic
@the.chronic.ironic Ай бұрын
Absolutely sickening!!! Very tragic. I feel for his family…. How horrible.
@jonightshade2252
@jonightshade2252 Ай бұрын
And he was supposedly a good looking, popular kid. Only ONE person from the house party he died at showed up? That is just so fishy to me.
@clairecarscallen
@clairecarscallen Ай бұрын
What a lovely bunch of ‘humans.’ Won’t they make great parents one day?
@JustMe-ef7xv
@JustMe-ef7xv Ай бұрын
Sounds like "friends" are lying.
@ammiller3911
@ammiller3911 Ай бұрын
I have a similar story with a different outcome. When my brother was 19 he went to a party with a bunch of people. I got a call at work from the police. My brother had been dropped off at the hospital with severe injuries. The police said whoever dropped him off didn't even stop, they just slowed down and rolled them out of the car. My brother was in a coma for 2 months with severe brain injuries. His "friends" said he fell out of the back of a truck while they were joy riding and that they didn't stop because the driver was drunk and didn't want to get in trouble. The dr said it looked like mu brother had gotten beaten, because if he fell out of a truck his hands would have been injuries. My brother was a loud mouth drunk and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a fight. He sustained severe brain damage and had part of his skull removed. He will never be the same. No matter how aggravating someone drunk is, people need to understand that humans are fragile and hitting someone in the head has consequences.
@sunnynights68
@sunnynights68 Ай бұрын
Oh my god that sounds horrible, my condolences. I hope your brother continues to improve. 😢
@maryd253
@maryd253 26 күн бұрын
I’m so sorry
@katstan7954
@katstan7954 25 күн бұрын
So sorry to hear ❤
@pennwoman
@pennwoman 18 күн бұрын
Those “friends” of his should have been arrested. So awful. Cowards.
@Ryan_Rants
@Ryan_Rants 15 күн бұрын
not too mention alcohol makes people more vulnerable. They may not feel the pain as much at the time due to the intoxication, which masks how severe the injuries can be in the long run. I
@kenrandall5680
@kenrandall5680 Ай бұрын
Alcohol never saved anyone’s life and has caused many heartaches for what ultimate end when all is said and done. What a terrible loss for the family and those that truly cared about this young man. 😞
@doxasophosmoros
@doxasophosmoros Ай бұрын
Lol it's not just the alcohol! Mature adults handle it.. most of us anyway... its a toxin but a 40 year old woman being drunk and being able to handle a whole bottle of spirits vs a 17 year old boy full of testosterone, or even a teenage girl with zero tolerance is a TOTALLY different story. As a teenager I remember 4 people going haywire with a bottle of rum vs as an adult, at most we raise our voices at eachother but it takes a lot of booze to get to that stage. What I'm saying is that teenagers cannot handle booze and lots of stimulation etc, mostly cause of sexual competition between people and they can't handle emotions. Being a teenager or early 20s is already difficult.. but a teenager drunk is the worst... and they were obviously trashy people. What parent allows their kid to have a 4 day drug and sex fuelled party?? Yuck.
@DavidBaker-cx1ni
@DavidBaker-cx1ni Ай бұрын
Ken, that old devil alcohol is never given credit for the damage it does. I don't begrudge the extended partying, but it came at a high cost. Noah, drunk out-of- his-mind, streaking down the highway, got clobbered by a truck ending up in pieces. His friend Jack gets it right.
@Jasmine215100
@Jasmine215100 Ай бұрын
@@DavidBaker-cx1ni For some reason, I think after the ATV accident, his friends had to clean him off, maybe he was hurt? That's how he lost his clothes!
@MrSeanman30
@MrSeanman30 27 күн бұрын
A couple people didn't go to the World Trade Center the day they were hit because of hangovers. I guess alcohol saved them technically?
@mbg140897
@mbg140897 21 күн бұрын
@@MrSeanman30That’s a one out of a million scenario. Alcohol causes far more problems than it doesn’t. This is coming from someone who’s almost 3 years sober that used to defend it heavily and brag about drinking anyone under the table. The shit is no joke. Especially when younger kids are getting involved with it unfortunately. Many tragedies you hear about could’ve/can be avoided had it not been for alcohol.
@carolynsilvers9999
@carolynsilvers9999 Ай бұрын
His clothing probably had blood and attackers DNA...they destroyed his clothes.
@crownlaurus2610
@crownlaurus2610 Ай бұрын
He was barely wearing clothes in the video. Most scenes show him shirtless.
@sandydee8003
@sandydee8003 Ай бұрын
How could Noah receive these injuries that caused his demise but have no serious injuries to his arms and legs? It sounds like he was murdered and moved to the road location.
@janeanjacobs3717
@janeanjacobs3717 Ай бұрын
@@sandydee8003 Dear God praying hard for family.
@Hollylivengood
@Hollylivengood Ай бұрын
Sounds like he got beat up by a bunch of guys, and they got him on the ground and kicked him. All those injuries happen from that kind of thing. And regardless of how it looks in the movies, people usually die from that.
@charliechurch5004
@charliechurch5004 Ай бұрын
Maybe someone was holding his arms or maybe he was knocked out and the attacker continued to strike him 😞
@leslievasquez2645
@leslievasquez2645 Ай бұрын
I seems like he was dragged from a moving vehicle with his fingers shredded like that 😢
@denniscrannie1126
@denniscrannie1126 Ай бұрын
Could be true.​@@charliechurch5004
@captainamerica6525
@captainamerica6525 Ай бұрын
Sounds like murder.
@johrathbun
@johrathbun 29 күн бұрын
Or at the very least involuntary manslaughter, RIP Noah...
@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul
@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul Ай бұрын
Here's what I've learned from Dr. Grande and other True Crime broadcasts: Don't be the class clown, don't be the one who "lights up a room", avoid being "everybody's friend ", and above all don't be the person "who would give you the shirt off his back." These are the people who end up as subjects in Dr. Grande's videos.
@BrooklynBaby100
@BrooklynBaby100 Ай бұрын
Jealousy and envy run rampant. My entire family acts humble and almost stupid so people will leave us alone. They don’t know our true successes. ✨
@rosemadder5547
@rosemadder5547 Ай бұрын
​​@@BrooklynBaby100 does that mean they're not humble people? It's just an act? That sucks to learn about people later on lol that they fake humility... Red flag 😯
@twocents7495
@twocents7495 Ай бұрын
@@rosemadder5547that’s your take away?
@Laurie-qn9yl
@Laurie-qn9yl Ай бұрын
I’m safe 😢
@ben6591
@ben6591 Ай бұрын
Don’t let other people shut you down like that. You’re letting the predators that walked this world win by doing that.
@ThatBobGuy850
@ThatBobGuy850 Ай бұрын
Dr. Grande, I agree with your assessment that Noah was murdered. I mean, why were none of his belongings (phone, wallet, clothes) found? Something's fishy there. Something happened at that house, and the kids aren't talking. But they will. Sooner or later, one of them will crack. Sad story, though.
@jtzoltan
@jtzoltan Ай бұрын
Phone was at the party still
@ayomidel
@ayomidel Ай бұрын
Just sad.
@25Soupy
@25Soupy Ай бұрын
I agree. Plus, 2 of the phones from the party (probably 2 guys) dumped his body on the road side and went back to the party as the phones location and movement describes. I think those 2 people will be key.
@BRUCEYBOY
@BRUCEYBOY Ай бұрын
​@25Soupy I wish there had been more details on those two people, but I guess we will have to wait for an update someday.
@sharoncontini3284
@sharoncontini3284 Ай бұрын
I agree it's all bizarre.
@BabyShark-kd9jl
@BabyShark-kd9jl Ай бұрын
5:50 "In order to explain why Noah was not wearing any clothing, the partygoers said they gave him a shower." In what world, is that an explanation? What a bunch of weirdos.
@discospiders
@discospiders Ай бұрын
Exactly! How weird!
@lewisburton1852
@lewisburton1852 Ай бұрын
Trying to sober him up or Wake him up. Idk 🤷‍♂️
@Puglover130
@Puglover130 Ай бұрын
They said he was really dirty after flipping the side car (or quad runner)
@c.t.2252
@c.t.2252 Ай бұрын
Yep. Saying that they removed his clothing made them look suspicious, making up the shower story to conceal what actually happened. Otherwise, his being found naked would have been just as much a mystery to them as to anyone else. It's not likely that he left the house naked carrying his shorts. It is likely that he did not leave the house alive.
@meloneyparker
@meloneyparker Ай бұрын
I think they were possibly removing their DNA from his body. Everyone who was in that house at any time over those 4 days is a suspect.
@AxelordSMIJES
@AxelordSMIJES Ай бұрын
Every single time I've been naked in public or in situations where it wasnt appropriate to be, alcohol was involved. Just saying... it's one of MANY reasons I don't drink alcohol to excess anymore.
@ursodermatt8809
@ursodermatt8809 Ай бұрын
there must be about 200 other reasons. just saying.
@samaeltheundying
@samaeltheundying Ай бұрын
This is why I quit drinking tequila.
@Fido-vm9zi
@Fido-vm9zi Ай бұрын
How fing embarrassing.
@ELvis348
@ELvis348 Ай бұрын
This story captivated me here from California and it’s bothersome how people from a small town in the US can get away with this crime. I believe you Dr. grande, there will be justice eventuallly hopefully very soon. These kids know something
@DavidBaker-cx1ni
@DavidBaker-cx1ni Ай бұрын
Elvis, please, this happened in Oklahoma, the Wild Wild West.
@ms.nfrmed
@ms.nfrmed Ай бұрын
I am from Duncan, Oklahoma. Many people still very saddened by this case. Hopeful it will be solved soon ❤ Prayers for the family. Another interesting case would be the Alan Hruby case from Duncan, Oklahoma. Great work Dr. Grande.
@Komediennekymd2009
@Komediennekymd2009 Ай бұрын
I agree. Also the case of Jarvis McIntire from St Louis
@luannacook5693
@luannacook5693 Ай бұрын
He's a very aggressive wannabe Podcaster who just looked into this case and has accused the only party goer to come forward, and Noah's own family. Probably hired by the hosts family to distract from the truth. I wouldn't waste any time.
@cindyholloway7441
@cindyholloway7441 Ай бұрын
I’ve been following this case for a few months now and watch everything that pertains to it. A friend of Noah’s on another KZfaq channel reported going to the scene shortly after Noah’s BF Jack announced Noah was dead. This was about 5:15am, before any truck drivers reported Noah’s body on the road. This friend says Noah WAS NOT nude when he viewed him. He says with 100% clarity that Noah had on black shorts. Who removed those shorts and why? Noah was beat in a horrible senseless way. One or more friends caused his death. Party goers phones were wiped clean and no one is talking. Those that are talking are shunned from the rest of the group.
@hannahmitchell87
@hannahmitchell87 Ай бұрын
do you remember the channel or video title please?
@cindyholloway7441
@cindyholloway7441 Ай бұрын
@@hannahmitchell87 The channel is Partners in Crime. They’re a husband and wife team. The episode is, Noah Presgrove- episode 6. Noah’s friend, Kayden Pressy, who was at the party, gives his account of events.
@hannahmitchell87
@hannahmitchell87 Ай бұрын
@@cindyholloway7441 Brilliant! Thanks for that, I'll check it out
@crownlaurus2610
@crownlaurus2610 Ай бұрын
So the BF reported back to the group that he was dead and didn't call the police? They just left him there? Am I understanding this correctly?
@cindyholloway7441
@cindyholloway7441 Ай бұрын
@@crownlaurus2610 Kayden, who is a friend of Noah and BF said that BF came into the party house around 5:15am saying that he found Noah and he’s dead. Claims that he died at 4:00am. Three other friend of Noah( Kayden being one ) followed Jack down to the scene. By this time there was a trucker who stopped after calling 911. Jack was supposedly the first one to find Noah. That’s the story Kayden specified. There were only three 911 calls reporting Noah in the road. None of those calls came from BF, Jack. If this is true, why didn’t Jack call 911? Noah is supposed to be his BF. Now, according to People magazine, Jack gives a whole different version of the story. If you go on People website you can read the article. The stories keep changing. Truths don’t change.
@imtired6104
@imtired6104 Ай бұрын
He was a handsome young man, I can imagine that it may have been the result of someone's jealousy of Noah as a possible cause. Poor thing, and his poor family, so sad.
@chetyoubetya8565
@chetyoubetya8565 Ай бұрын
Sorry men even young men don't operate for the most part out of being jealous of other men.
@cleopatra444
@cleopatra444 Ай бұрын
i thought the same thing , being handsome or good looking triggers all kinds of craziness in people , these monsters were not his friends .
@thomasfairfax4956
@thomasfairfax4956 Ай бұрын
​@@chetyoubetya8565 Other men used to often pick fights with me in bars and clubs because their girlfriend/date would start staring at me. It actually happens a lot when you're attractive.
@marisa8699
@marisa8699 Ай бұрын
Except if they are competing for a girl? ​@@chetyoubetya8565
@tashastarling6573
@tashastarling6573 Ай бұрын
@@chetyoubetya8565 many men have been beaten for being attractive.
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 Ай бұрын
I agree it's more likely homicide, I think he angered someone. It was such a sad & strange case. Great breakdown again. Thanks Dr G😊💚💛
@1summerflower
@1summerflower Ай бұрын
Something like this happen to a young man when I was a teen , hurts me to this day! Hopefully they figure it out and get justice!
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz Ай бұрын
Hey Zena! ❤ How are you doing, and how is your mom? I hope you're both doing well. Miss you, sis. 😢 Maybe try and write to me one more time? It's 'at gee male'. 😘 We need to get on touch. Much love & prayers to you and mom. ❤😍🤟🌹⚘🌷
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 Ай бұрын
@@LDiamondz Hi friend! I always reply here, you don't ever seem to get😔Thx for the prayers🥰💜🙏She's hanging in there👩‍❤️‍💋‍👩Hope you are doing ok...glad to hear from you always sis, miss you too, hug and love🦋🌷🌵⭐️✨️💟ps I don't have your "gee male" lol
@CC-ce6ng
@CC-ce6ng Ай бұрын
How could it NOT be a homicide? He was found dead, naked, and dumped by the highway!
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 Ай бұрын
@@CC-ce6ng what is your pt beyond to argue
@texasterri2002
@texasterri2002 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for covering Noah's case. This case needs national attention.
@magules13
@magules13 Ай бұрын
I bet he was dumped there after an altercation and they believed he was merely unconscious. Then the partygoers all covered for each other.
@111.blackice
@111.blackice 13 күн бұрын
"they believed he was merely unconscious"....part of his skull was showing, magules.
@ruthietreselan
@ruthietreselan Ай бұрын
also we need to know more about these two cell phones that headed out towards him then came back
@MitchBanks-fu6iy
@MitchBanks-fu6iy Ай бұрын
very strange case teenagers getting drunk and fighting for 4 days what could go wrong right
@Throatzillaaa
@Throatzillaaa Ай бұрын
a four day party with drinkings and 40+ attendees ranging from teenagers to 22 year olds? I feel like even at age 21 I would have known this was a horrible idea.
@australien6611
@australien6611 Ай бұрын
Guess you just never had fun growing up
@grace_ajm
@grace_ajm Ай бұрын
@@australien6611 if this is your idea of fun then ok 👌🏾
@TonyCox1351
@TonyCox1351 Ай бұрын
@@grace_ajm”you ain’t never had fun unless you had 4 days straight of underage drinking that resulted in a mysterious death”
@melska
@melska Ай бұрын
The trouble with parties like that is that everything is fine until it isn't.
@gogreen7794
@gogreen7794 Ай бұрын
​@australien6611 If the only way you have fun is attending a so-called party as described here, you have very low standards for "fun." Try something else if you dare.
@MortimerJones99
@MortimerJones99 Ай бұрын
My theory: the ATV accident was worse than they said it was. He rolled the ATV and it crushed him, or someone else riding it ran him over. He was probably still alive but unconscious, and whoever was involved saw how badly injured he was and put him in their car, to take him to the hospital and he dies along the way, or they just don't want to deal with the whole ordeal in general so they strip him and throw him out of the car. Eventually someone will crack and they'll get a warrant and find some DNA or his clothes, or fibers from his clothes in the last car he was in.
@concettaworkman5895
@concettaworkman5895 Ай бұрын
That's an interesting take.
@abqmalenurse
@abqmalenurse Ай бұрын
That does not explain his shorts being removed.
@KristenRowenPliske
@KristenRowenPliske Ай бұрын
I agree with that!
@sherberts
@sherberts Ай бұрын
The ATV had no damage.
@CrusadesOClock
@CrusadesOClock Ай бұрын
I've watched a more in depth video on this and they said his hand was torn down to the bone and earlier in the night a bunch of people wrote their names on his butt cheeks, the names were removed prior to his body being dumped on the highway. I think some of the damage may have been caused post death by being thrown from a moving vehicle on the highway (this explains the tooth and possibly the abrasions on his behind). Also the shorts were apparently folded next to his body. Its all very odd and the fact no one from the party attended his funeral either, or reached out to his family makes it obvious foul play happened.
@OceanJoe-cy8rx
@OceanJoe-cy8rx Ай бұрын
Dr. Grande for president! I'm not saying that he's going to run, only speculating that he should. But only time will tell whether a truly great philosopher actually does emerge from the gathering.
@TopperPenquin
@TopperPenquin Ай бұрын
Unless he was Magically born in Indonesia
@user-vm9we7fs4d
@user-vm9we7fs4d Ай бұрын
Dr Grande is actually a lizard person hired by xenu
@zackbarkley7593
@zackbarkley7593 29 күн бұрын
Schadenfreud is not the mark of true leaders. Smelling dirty diapers and rotting food doesn't give them a kick. The future is written by those envisioning and working to realize something better "for" and "in" everyone...not resting on wilting laurels imagining how good we have it now because someone else doesn't. Lift all boats my friend, otherwise it's crabs in a bucket.
@zackbarkley7593
@zackbarkley7593 29 күн бұрын
Schadenfreud is not the mark of true leaders. Smelling dirty diapers and rotting food doesn't give them a kick. The future is written by those envisioning and working to realize something better "for" and "in" everyone...not resting on wilting laurels imagining how good we have it now because someone else doesn't. Lift all boats my friend, otherwise it's crabs in a bucket.
@Chloe-gh5mk
@Chloe-gh5mk Ай бұрын
Poor guy, he was murdered 😢
@user-vm9we7fs4d
@user-vm9we7fs4d Ай бұрын
Lol
@WOWCAT22
@WOWCAT22 Ай бұрын
@@Chloe-gh5mk Agree!
@javierromero6858
@javierromero6858 Ай бұрын
What I’m gonna say might sound unpleasant and a tad offensive, but at 18 you have no real friends. I’ve seen too much true crime to know this. Those people at the party KNOW what happened
@anitablunt8652
@anitablunt8652 Ай бұрын
Agreed. Looking back at parties when I was that age, seems after lots of alcohol there was always a fight between a group of guys.
@gregevans6044
@gregevans6044 Ай бұрын
There was a time when it wasn’t so. 40 years ago, I had a few close buds that were more like brothers. They’d go to the mat for you, and on occasion did. Today? Yeah. From what I’ve seen the last couple of decades, you’re pretty much spot-on.
@charliechurch5004
@charliechurch5004 Ай бұрын
Bingo, it's ppl afraid of being offensive that cause this sort of mess!! Speak up!!! We need fathers to stand up!!! 🙏🏿
@charliechurch5004
@charliechurch5004 Ай бұрын
​@@gregevans6044things have really gone down hill 😢
@Lisargarza
@Lisargarza Ай бұрын
@@gregevans6044 Totally agree. I feel like male friendships 40 to 50 years ago involved getting in each others face, having a fist fight, then one guy extends a hand and helps the loser up, after which they become bonded for life. Not a guy, so I can’t speak from experience, but saw it happen during high school.
@lindawilson4625
@lindawilson4625 Ай бұрын
His "friends"? Not so much. Sounds like murder...by his friends. Maybe not premeditated, but... My heart goes out to his loved ones.
@golfswingbodymechanicsinte2854
@golfswingbodymechanicsinte2854 Ай бұрын
Too much alcohol can be a recipe for disaster. Know when to say when people. 😊
@Wesley296
@Wesley296 8 күн бұрын
After 30 years I realized “when to say when” is before a single drop touches my tongue
@Chad.H.
@Chad.H. Ай бұрын
Thank you for your detailed information about every case you discuss .you have growing followers here in Australia 👍😁
@ChrissyLove11312
@ChrissyLove11312 Ай бұрын
“They were all just a bunch of innocent angels” His sarcasm is always on point
@louise2467
@louise2467 Ай бұрын
And that girl / so called “friend”, who’s birthday it was, will forever be reminded, yearly, of Noah’s death. Happy Birthday dear.☠
@MisterWhatWhat
@MisterWhatWhat 28 күн бұрын
If I could give this comment an award I would 🏆🏆🏆
@kitty_765
@kitty_765 Ай бұрын
That “friends” ridiculous smile in the Snapchat..
@Flamsterette
@Flamsterette Ай бұрын
*"FRIEND'S"
@discospiders
@discospiders Ай бұрын
His friend Jack did it, along with the girlfriend. Jack’s dad helped them cover it up.
@tyarnold4088
@tyarnold4088 Ай бұрын
Your right
@sunnynights68
@sunnynights68 Ай бұрын
They may have wiped their phones clean, but can’t police subpoena phone records/text message records?😮 I am beyond sad that this family cannot get answers.
@carolynsilvers9999
@carolynsilvers9999 Ай бұрын
This is horrible. It is so tragic, not only for Noah but also for his family and friends who now grieve him.
@gazXspace
@gazXspace Ай бұрын
Not every teen will be able to carry the heavy burden of secrets and lies such as this - inside 1 or more is already crackin up, its only time until it shows on the outside. Watch this space.
@stephaneslec2171
@stephaneslec2171 Ай бұрын
Due to the nature of Noah's injuries to his face, cheeks, mouth and teeth, back of the head, fingers and lower extremities etc. This appears to be consistent with someone laying on his stomach on the hood of a moving vehicle and holding for dear life to the sharp edge of the hood near the windshield. Once the driver stepped on the breaks, Noah went flying backwards and due to his height, his feet would have hit the ground first and smashed the back of his head on the pavement. The other circumstances would also suggest that more than one person were likely involved or know about this case. Let's all pray someone feels the pressure and decides to turn on the others. My Sincere Condolences to the Family and Friends of Noah and May God Bless Them All!
@kardilee
@kardilee Ай бұрын
Wow…that makes sense. They were driving a side by side at the party that got flipped over. Maybe that has something to do with it 🤔
@stephaneslec2171
@stephaneslec2171 Ай бұрын
There are many moving parts and none can be ignored, as every little detail may play a part and culminate into something bigger via a domino effect.
@clake8931
@clake8931 Ай бұрын
WHAT A SHAME, I HOPE THIS CASE IS SOLVED!! RIP SWEET BOY 🩵🙏🏻🩵
@WOWCAT22
@WOWCAT22 Ай бұрын
@@stephaneslec2171 I disagree. I don't think it was a moving vehicle. Where is the blood trail? I think everything happened at the house, and then they placed his body on the side of the road to make it look like a hit and run.
@meloneyparker
@meloneyparker Ай бұрын
His family said Noah's fingers were NOT shredded. Given his massive skull injuries, I think he was attacked by at least 2 people and someone used an object like a baseball bat or golf club as part of the beating.
@earlofcumbrae-Ground_Zero
@earlofcumbrae-Ground_Zero Ай бұрын
It's 1A.M here in France... Happy to be watching da 👑, Dr. Grande #1. ❤️
@playtagwithasemi
@playtagwithasemi Ай бұрын
not much point in speculating in this case, in my opinion. I think it's plainly obvious that the police will solve this with whatever phone data they're able to collect. given the little information that we do know, and because the investigation is ongoing, I think it's only a matter of time.
@benbelzer8303
@benbelzer8303 Ай бұрын
Well said. However, I don't know if Grande is a former detective or criminal profiler, but I do love hearing what people in the field of crime have to say, in regards to speculating. There's a really good book called "What Cops Know" and I studied this case in regards to what that book says (it's an amazing book BTW) and it helped make sense of things.
@25Soupy
@25Soupy Ай бұрын
I agree. The 2 phones that left the house moved to the location of the body and back to the house is key. It's only a matter of time.
@buzzin-hornet
@buzzin-hornet 23 күн бұрын
Speculating may not give definitive answers, but it does open up possiilities that may be overlooked otherwise. Why bother speculating about anything? We speculate about things every day. For instance - "Do you think it might rain today?" " Who do you think is going to win the football on saturday?". Everything we discuss about future events is a speculation. I may not know the weatheer forecast..you might? I may know where a team sits in the league standings? You may not?. Your answer to all these things is just "I don't know, nobody knows, no point speculating, let's see what happens after the event"?? 🤷🤔
@deninevh
@deninevh Ай бұрын
This seems to me a huge part of the answer. 6:25 I really want to hear more on whose phones left, went in the direction of the scene, then returned.
@Traderjoe
@Traderjoe Ай бұрын
It’s still unusual to me that someone born in 2002 could be this age, even though it’s obvious mathematically that they would be. I was born in the mid 1960s, and 2002 seems like yesterday to me. My car is a 2003 car. As far as this case is concerned, I would think that he was bundled up in someone’s pickup truck and held down by a bunch of guys and then tossed out at high speed and died on the scene.
@sherberts
@sherberts Ай бұрын
Same. He was born in 2004 actually so newer than your car. I half agree with your theory - some injuries caused by being thrown out but a lot of the injuries were beforehand because no/little blood at scene.
@13donstalos
@13donstalos Ай бұрын
math
@Jasmine215100
@Jasmine215100 Ай бұрын
I had thought this may have happened after he and his girl got back from the ATV accident, he came out of the shower and maybe his friend who owned the ATV confronted him about what happened! Or maybe after he went off down the road in an angry fit and was confronted there! He's not as innocent as everyone seems to think if he took that vehicle without permission!
@carolynsilvers9999
@carolynsilvers9999 Ай бұрын
Odd party for a nurse to attend.
@ArtU4All
@ArtU4All Ай бұрын
Concept of a “nurse” is very wide. RN? LVN-LPN? CNA? Nursing aide? Even if RN, still young and susceptible to peer influence.
@MayorWilliesSideChick4prez
@MayorWilliesSideChick4prez Ай бұрын
She was a drunk 22 year old cna. Not a nurse
@user-vm9we7fs4d
@user-vm9we7fs4d Ай бұрын
What’s odd is that you’re not making dinner
@kathybuttsarnold3534
@kathybuttsarnold3534 Ай бұрын
There are some wild RNs in the world who put on a good face at work!
@MayorWilliesSideChick4prez
@MayorWilliesSideChick4prez Ай бұрын
@@user-vm9we7fs4d you’re a funny guy! Nice joke! Really good stuff!
@SLIONS-go9wq
@SLIONS-go9wq Ай бұрын
His arms are back! 🎉
@kardilee
@kardilee Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@EmGee410
@EmGee410 Ай бұрын
I kept waiting to hear about who were the two phones, or who owned the two phones, that left a party around the time Noah was killed? One would assume those would be the two main people of interest, no?
@denniscrannie1126
@denniscrannie1126 Ай бұрын
The nurse needs to be interviewed and get her access ment of his injuries after the roll over. The two cellphones that had geodata near where his body was left will be hard to explain away.
@leslieh1485
@leslieh1485 10 күн бұрын
And, why was “nurse” at a party where underage drinking was happening?
@Steveharvey-r3v
@Steveharvey-r3v Ай бұрын
He passed at the house and was moved to the highway
@JayTee2985
@JayTee2985 Ай бұрын
This mystery case reminded me of the cold case of Stephen Smith's death related to one of Alex Murdaugh's sons.
@K1ngx-
@K1ngx- Ай бұрын
Damn people think shit like this only happen in the hood but situations like this can happen anywhere those so called friends he had were just snakes waiting to bite
@WASIV
@WASIV Ай бұрын
It's very disturbing how he died and I hope the people who did this are brought to justice. Also anyone that goes to a "4 day birthday party" is a drug addict and/or severely mentally deficient. I can tell you from knowing a person with a social circle like this- these kinds of incredibly immature, hedonistic people drop like flies in their 20s and 30s.
@Jasmine215100
@Jasmine215100 Ай бұрын
Many of the party attendees were in their late teen years to early 20s! Some people just haven't grown up that much at this age!
@matthewaitken719
@matthewaitken719 Ай бұрын
Here to listen to his theory. His opinion
@jcdenton6864
@jcdenton6864 Ай бұрын
😂
@rachel4339
@rachel4339 Ай бұрын
“…about what could be happening in a case like this 😏” 😂
@misstinahamilton5714
@misstinahamilton5714 Ай бұрын
Only speculating .....
@nanalee1027
@nanalee1027 Ай бұрын
There were only 8-10 people left at the party the night Noah died. Just a small crowd of kids/young adults that knew each other pretty well.
@romktch17
@romktch17 Ай бұрын
I'm speculating that this should be a good video.
@TheDanielRivas
@TheDanielRivas Ай бұрын
Sounds like that’s just your theory…an opinion? I must confess, I’m speculating the same.
@angelabaird7135
@angelabaird7135 Ай бұрын
I think u were wrong. This is a shit take from Dr Grande. To think someone at that party wasnt either involved or KNOW what happened is WILD!
@katmack4215
@katmack4215 Ай бұрын
I cannot imagine how Noah's clothes would be ripped from his body in a vehicle strike..however,the shoes stay on his feet 🤨 that one detail alone convinced me something is wrong with this scene!! I hope his family gets answers. Sending so much love to them,from West Virginia ❤️
@coreychipman
@coreychipman Ай бұрын
Seriously? The evidence is back at the "party house". He was killed there and dropped off by the two that left to the "area he was found".
@australien6611
@australien6611 Ай бұрын
Were the owners of the 2 phones that followed Noah to where his body was found, questioned?
@the_shadow_realm5110
@the_shadow_realm5110 Ай бұрын
His “friends” know a lot more than we are lead to believe.
@lauriepowell3959
@lauriepowell3959 Ай бұрын
Noah was a very attractive young man. This entire situation is very heartbreaking.
@gogreen7794
@gogreen7794 Ай бұрын
Stay away from these huge, sprawling, chaotic house parties. Bad news.
@tyarnold4088
@tyarnold4088 Ай бұрын
When they interviewed 1 of his friends, i could tell they did it. The friend kept having strong opinions which would explain it was some kind of accident. I could tell he was lying.
@raymaharaj4502
@raymaharaj4502 Ай бұрын
It’s just crazy how many of these cases involve victims that were referred to as “class clowns”. Class clowns often evolve into douchey clowns as adults and that definitely sounds like the case here, I know it sounds bad but think about it, he was chattin’ up his BEST FRIEND’S girl, he flipped someone’s atv, got soo sloshed that he couldn’t even locate HIS own clothes or shoes, and the list goes on. This dude seemed like an insurance company’s worst nightmare and definitely not someone you’d want attending your house party, wedding, baby shower, birthday dinner/party, funeral, Bar Mitzvah, bachelor party, or ANYWHERE else alcohol would be served. In my opinion this dude tried talking to the wrong guy’s girl and uhhh…… well you know. I know what I’m saying sounds fucked up but in my opinion that is what this case sounds like to me. I don’t think anyone can say that my take on this case is not a possibility.
@freestang6662
@freestang6662 Ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Trying to crawl in bed with the birthday girl probably caused a scene. Then the white knights to intervene and a fight ensues. Excess alcohol and testosterone can be a dangerous situation.
@sari9645
@sari9645 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately I agree
@Lily-wk8kv
@Lily-wk8kv Ай бұрын
@@freestang6662yeah I think that’s what happened.
@Fido-vm9zi
@Fido-vm9zi Ай бұрын
Like a "daredevil" type?
@maddistone8573
@maddistone8573 Ай бұрын
I think it was something like that too. He did get into arguments with a few different people that night. Maybe the wrong person/people got angry and took things way,way too far.
@pacey5980
@pacey5980 Ай бұрын
Another point not mentioned was the distinct lack of blood around where his body was found. Many medical professionals who have commented on this case have stated that, based on injuries detailed in his autopsy, they would expect large amount of blood loss to have occurred. Where was all of the blood? If he was hit by a vehicle, would that blood not be all over the road??
@onetiredempath
@onetiredempath Ай бұрын
Dr Grande you failed to mention that the white shorts were Neatly Folded by his body. I think that’s an important detail
@luannacook5693
@luannacook5693 29 күн бұрын
One of the truck drivers said he retrieved them from the highway so they wouldn't get run over.
@onetiredempath
@onetiredempath 28 күн бұрын
@@luannacook5693 but they were Folded up
@TheGreekCatholic
@TheGreekCatholic Ай бұрын
A man named Grande had a grand idea for a grandiose video graphic of a gargantuan topic
@Reece-Mincher3601
@Reece-Mincher3601 Ай бұрын
Thanks, GPT !
@jabrokneetoeknee6448
@jabrokneetoeknee6448 Ай бұрын
@@Reece-Mincher3601 You’re welcome, IPad kid!
@Reece-Mincher3601
@Reece-Mincher3601 Ай бұрын
@@jabrokneetoeknee6448 Gemini, set sarcasm to 17% and write me a sad poem about.. oranges ! 🟠
@jonesmorales-tu6kq
@jonesmorales-tu6kq Ай бұрын
Okay.....🤓
@Idontcare0990
@Idontcare0990 Ай бұрын
2 of 10 comment rating
@spiritualtruthseeker1947
@spiritualtruthseeker1947 Ай бұрын
As usual, Dr Grande’s assessment is excellent. I enjoy how he always clears away the BS. There are far too many conspiracies surrounding this case.
@henrynegro8397
@henrynegro8397 18 күн бұрын
Am I the only one that finds these videos soo relaxing to watch before bed
@antoineprocuta5527
@antoineprocuta5527 Ай бұрын
This one was a real twisty-turny mystery packed with interesting details, impeccably presented as always! I really needed that during initial getting-home post-commute decompression. Cheerio, doc! 🍁
@LúciaKitten
@LúciaKitten Ай бұрын
Thank you for your analysis, Dr. Grande!
@AMYBIERHAUS
@AMYBIERHAUS Ай бұрын
"I Know What You Did Last Summer" ... 😢
@axelsandi
@axelsandi Ай бұрын
Especially soothing intonation today Dr.
@carmendaniel3734
@carmendaniel3734 Ай бұрын
RIP Noah.❤ So sad and senseless. Such a handsome young man. Condolences to his loved ones. So heartbreaking.💔I hope his family gets answers to what actually happened to Noah. I think the party goers know what happened to Noah.
@MJ-hl1kk
@MJ-hl1kk Ай бұрын
As usual, a wonderfully astute, intelligent, honest and NON- narcissistic ( a rare quality among humans, especially among accomplished professionals) analysis by Dr Grande!
@lastpme
@lastpme Ай бұрын
Sad…someone at that party knows something.
@dramius
@dramius Ай бұрын
Oh shucks.. a 4 day drinking party? Sounds smart. What could go wrong!
@rejaneoliveira5019
@rejaneoliveira5019 Ай бұрын
This is a really sad case. I believe there was foul play. I hope more information can come about and family gets a most deserved closure. Thank you, Dr.Grande.♥️
@mongoose6685
@mongoose6685 Ай бұрын
4 day party just for turning 22? Guess some addicts will take any excuse.
@janpierzchala2004
@janpierzchala2004 Ай бұрын
It's 4 years from 1-day party for turning 18. He seems to add one day for each year...
@wearytraveler2164
@wearytraveler2164 Ай бұрын
I spent 17 years with an alcoholic. She made up special occasions to get drunk.
@charliechurch5004
@charliechurch5004 Ай бұрын
They aren't addicts lol they are selfish irresponsible young ppl. That's modern life for you
@charliechurch5004
@charliechurch5004 Ай бұрын
​@@wearytraveler2164😂 these aren't alcoholics they are typical narcissist youth
@CaseyRhyneXoXo
@CaseyRhyneXoXo Ай бұрын
I think the party hosts parents were out of town so the youngins took full advantage of the party house on a long weekend.
@helpyourcattodrive
@helpyourcattodrive Ай бұрын
What an insane story. Thank you for commenting on this topic, Dr. Grande. ❤ I appreciate it.
@reuben1798
@reuben1798 Ай бұрын
It’s really sad how his family doesn’t know exactly what happened to him. Eventually the truth will come to light rip ❤
@marciabradley7660
@marciabradley7660 Ай бұрын
A four day party just means everyone was impaired and no one remembered anything.
@jonightshade2252
@jonightshade2252 Ай бұрын
🎯🎯
@jennifera7153
@jennifera7153 Ай бұрын
Until someone comes forward, they’re all guilty in my opinion.
@Qrail
@Qrail Ай бұрын
Greetings! Thank you for your humor.
@realdeal4real9
@realdeal4real9 Ай бұрын
Thanks for covering this story .someone at that party knows what happened..I agree most likey he was beaten and possibly dragged as I previously heard taht there was drag marks.
@Jasmine215100
@Jasmine215100 Ай бұрын
Was he dragged by that ATV?
@johnnysupertramp1090
@johnnysupertramp1090 Ай бұрын
Poor Noah...
@Mrs50Racerchick12
@Mrs50Racerchick12 Ай бұрын
so so so sad! I hope some day the TRUTH comes out!
@aarondavis8943
@aarondavis8943 Ай бұрын
I wonder is he fell of the back of the ATV at high speed? This would only involve one of the partygoers so it wouldn't require a grand conspiracy of silence. Just one person keeping his recklessness to himself.
@birchlover3377
@birchlover3377 Ай бұрын
Doesn't explain the clothing and wallet never being found...
@Lily-wk8kv
@Lily-wk8kv Ай бұрын
@@birchlover3377why??? The “driver” or killer(s) in my opinion, probably thought he got evidence on them and got rid of them.
@birchlover3377
@birchlover3377 Ай бұрын
@@Lily-wk8kv Because falling off a truck sounds accidental but so many other factors in this sound like foul play. Pushed off a truck, maybe, and only after a series of other offences.
@bubbabroad9051
@bubbabroad9051 Ай бұрын
This one is too sad to handle
@raquellofstedt9713
@raquellofstedt9713 Ай бұрын
Thank you for another informative and though provoking video. People often forget how vulnerable young men are when they are out alone. It´s not just young women who are likely to end up in a bad way, especially when alcohol and bad judgement/inexperience, whether one´s own or others´, comes into play. The kind of danger might be diferent, but it is very real and all too devastating. All the more reason to teach children early to take care of each other and know their own limits (and not necessarily just in alcohol, across the board).
@pennwoman
@pennwoman 18 күн бұрын
Amen! I’m always saying this! Young men are now far more vulnerable.
@Swanky95472
@Swanky95472 Ай бұрын
He was murdered 😢
@gretarobinson1142
@gretarobinson1142 Ай бұрын
Why werent the partygoers' phones confiscated for evidence?
@iyalove9383
@iyalove9383 Ай бұрын
Im here to speculate 😅
@jcdenton6864
@jcdenton6864 Ай бұрын
😂
@jamsandwichesjams
@jamsandwichesjams Ай бұрын
Thank you for covering noahs case! #justice4noahpresgrove
@holdencawffle626
@holdencawffle626 Ай бұрын
Travis johnson has since spoken up and provided details about what really happened
@margipinto7925
@margipinto7925 Ай бұрын
I think he was murdered. So sad 😢
@donalynette
@donalynette Ай бұрын
They deleted posts? Those posts can be recovered. Did they discover if he was sexually abused? Any other DNA on his body?
@slickwillie9526
@slickwillie9526 15 күн бұрын
Taking all the facts you've presented leads me to this conclusion: He was highly intoxicated. Only had shorts on, no underwear and different shoes when he left the party. Walking alone on the road someone picked him up. This person put the moves on him, or something of the like, he opened the door and fell partially out trying to escape, he was dragged along the road, whilst the driver was holding him by the shorts which came off after he completed his fall from the vehicle. The driver stopped, assessed the situation, folded the shorts, and fled. This explains all the circumstances in which he was found and the injuries. I'm not saying this is exactly what happened, but it fits.
@alc4ever24
@alc4ever24 Ай бұрын
This kid straight up looks like my son. What an awful case.
@user-vm9we7fs4d
@user-vm9we7fs4d Ай бұрын
What’s awful is your fishy smell
@elizabethhubbard8151
@elizabethhubbard8151 Ай бұрын
The girl who said Noah is missing reminded me of that 13 year old punk that killed the girl and took his pic in the police car asking if anybody had heard from him. It was a cover. Otherwise they would think he was outside or passed out somewhere or left or something.
@sweeabn6736
@sweeabn6736 Ай бұрын
I think it happened at the party.
@almonteiro3195
@almonteiro3195 Ай бұрын
Great analysis, as always.
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