Ever find it?

@@richkovach unfortunately not :(

@@johannl2147 ditto :(

I have only heard a Chord Mojo but it definitely has a unique "house sound" going on that they seem to prioritize. I would say it excels at clarity, speed and imaging. But you know, writing about music is like dancing about architecture, so... ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

@@r00s. totally feel you there haha

The chord mojo is good though a bit pricy. The rest are overrated.

Just buy a topping.

@@sonickiller360Topping products are sterile and lack dynamics

I did a back to back listening test of my old Sony DVD player with coax digital output vs RCA output vs Spotify. All digital signals went thru mojo2. The differences were noticeable. Coax output from CD disc was a 10, Spotify of same music was a 7 and RCA output was like a 4. All of them easily recognizably different in quality.

@@utube321piotr interesting 🧐

He said, basically, that he found that a DAC needs to be able to reproduce signals down to -300dB (this is going to be in the digital realm - not from the analog outputs) to correctly reproduce the music. He didn't say that you'll actually be able to hear anything that low. Many people get confused on that point.

@@Currawong Agreed. I believe there is a mechanism and it causes audible pre-echoes due to equiripple - the origin is from the upsampling filters in most DAC’s. Once you have the kind precision of -300 dB then the pre-echoes caused by the passband filters become inaudible. -300dB out of band filtering isn’t audible vs -140db but the passband equiripples on simple -140dB short tap filters do cause problems as their tiny equiripple is actually “integrated” right across the entire passband to produce a time domain echo.

​@Ambient Blue-eyedMonkey how else am I going to mitigate the noise from turning my entire room into a wireless charger?

Balanced headphone outputs are more marketing gimmick than practical performance. Electrically, they don't really have many advantages over SE. If the Mojo is powerful enough as it is, then there's no point in going balanced.

Also can we setup a test for Mr Watts where he demonstartes how easily he discerns distortions in range of -130 to -150? its in his presentation that its easy.

Yep, I'm a big fan of Chord products but for portable listening I carry a Sony DAP even though I've got a Hugo 2 + 2go.

Use a Poly, yes it has its issues but it does support Bluetooth, no idea how good it is because I've never used Bluetooth with Poly. While Chord still sell Poly I doubt we will see Bluetooth on the Mojo.

Which other brand offers their very DAC DESIGNER as information source for their products? Topping? Denafrips? Shiit? Gustard? Whom do you believe?

@@utube321piotr Engineers that don't benefit by changing the information they tell me. Jason Stoddard directly benefits by telling me that he has some genuinely better method of doing something while explaining the process, or by highlighting certain aspects of how the technology works to make certain things seem more or less important. I just don't trust any of them to be truly objective when it benefits them directly not to be.

@@KaneAmaroq your arguments make ZERO sense, Rob Watts is proud of his products and shares his knowledge, there are no objective data to disprove his claims, in their respective price brackets Chord products are second to none.

@@utube321piotr If my arguments don't make sense to you, that is your problem, not mine. I wouldn't trust a pharmaceutical company to tell me exactly why their stuff is so expensive and definitely worth going for over another product, it's no different here. There is a profit motive. And actually, there is a lot of data that conflicts with his claims about DACs and sound in general, albeit controversial and not conclusive. Again, he COULD be honest, but you don't know him, you have no idea what is true and what isn't, because of the obvious conflict of interest. If that doesn't make sense to you, you're just putting your head in the sand and not listening.

@@KaneAmaroq i love the sound mojo2 generates over other DACs and this performance confirms claims made by Rob Watts; while most other brands don't make any claims, don't share any product philosophy and that means that they don't have any; most Chinese DACs are junk pushed by paid utuber infomercial influencers

He just can't help it

"there is no measureable difference" can you point to something that shows that there's no measurable difference between DACs?

Are you serious?

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Hey there, i’m genuinly curious why you are saying this ? I see literally every audio channnel commenting about diffrences between dacs, i have never seen on say that all dacs sound the same, why would they lie ? Especially when all these channels did blind tests and all sorts of testings ? I’m asking because at the moment i have an ifi zen dac v2, and i am looking to improve my soundstage, there is a used chord TT2 for 1000 euros which is an incredible bargain and you say there will be nor can be a diffrence between my ifi zen dac v2 and the chord TT2 ?

What iem do you use? I'm thinking of getting mojo for andromeda and jomo salsa which are very sensitive

Question is, is it the DAC or the AMP part that hiss. But yeah charging as much as Chord does then it should never hiss.

@@neandrewthal I would like to know $15 IEMs that are better than I mentioned.

@@neandrewthal I have both dsp and wan'er but they're nowhere close imo, the Wan'er doesn't even have any detail.

@@leonarda8946 More likely to be the IEM, but some brands associated with "high end" companies like Earmen and Auris Audio made some very good sounding products that have terrible noise floor. Wouldn't be surprised if the hiss from the dac/amp itself. No idea why when new chinese brands like Topping and Aune can make desktop stuff that are hiss free even in high gain.

Fix your HiFi

@@utube321piotr A Hugo2 was my hifi. They also measure average which is not ideal for the price.

I don’t like the fact that their flagship is so old yet has not received any hardware revisions or price adjustments. They would have recouped their R&D costs a million times over by now, plus I’m sure there are minor things they could have added over the years, a bit like the way companies like Audeze slowly evolve their products.

The idea that all music should sound like live music is retarded. If you're listening to any recorded music it will never sound like live music. That is an impossible goal to achieve and no fancy over engineered DAC will achieve such a sound.

It was basically ignoring 99% of what matters and hyperfocusing on 1% of things that dont matter in reality, essentially nearly pure BS

@SubjectiveObjectivist I don't care about reproducing "what the artist and audio engineers intended" (whatever that means since no consumer can ever know what that sounds other than those who worked on the said songs) It's just my approach and I'm not here to criticize how people go about this hobby. I just tend to have more fun with my approach of faithfully reproducing my emotional experiences (sometimes amplify and enhance) rather than focusing on faithfully reproducing what was recorded.

i really do not share this view, i think a good headphone dac amp chain should let you enjoy all you want from music, now if you want to have multiple headphones because you like the variations in sound this is another story