Robert Bilder - When Brains Go Bad

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Жыл бұрын

How do injured brains help explain normal brains? One of the most powerful ways of learning about normal brain function is to examine what functions are lost when parts or areas of the brain are degraded or destroyed due to injury or disease. The subtle variations of different brain problems reveal the remarkable strands that make normal brain work so well.
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Dr. Robert Bilder is Professor of Psychiatry & Biobehavioral Sciences, and Professor of Psychology at UCLA. He is also Chief of Medical Psychology - Neuropsychology and Director of the Tennenbaum Center at the Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior.
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@kamalalove6083
@kamalalove6083 Жыл бұрын
Bless you for your work, both interviewer and scientist. My brother is bipolar I. He is so very conscientious, generous and loving, yet we see his mind tormenting him daily, hourly. It pains us all so deeply and not know how to fully help. I cannot thank the scientists researching this disorder enough. I’m so grateful for the work you do.
@TheSpeedOfC
@TheSpeedOfC Жыл бұрын
Very engaging speaker!
@stephenzhao5809
@stephenzhao5809 Жыл бұрын
Bob thanks a lot. Would you please post again a video talking about the mid-phyiscism & consciousness? I do appreciate it but I don't know where I saved. Thank you in advance.
Жыл бұрын
I have schizophrenia and mood disorder. However, I do not know which illness is the greatest.
@bertharius9518
@bertharius9518 Жыл бұрын
Look! Robert Lawrence Kuhn is metamorphing into.... into.... Albert Einstein!!!
@TheTroofSayer
@TheTroofSayer Жыл бұрын
While Bilder is cautious about concluding cause and effect, his assumptions are, nonetheless, predisposed to bottom-up causation. At 3:46 - "You've got to piece together all the intervening biology between the genome and the syndrome. That's what phenomics is about." Here's the problem, as I see it. Bodies wire neuroplastic, DNA-entangled brains (the *experiences* intercepted by bodies wire brains). That is, reframing Bilder's thesis more generally, it thus follows that *phenomics* wires neuroplastic brains. [Phenome relates to the genes that are expressed - i.e., the body] Psychiatric disorders are generally categorized as functional versus organic. Organic relates to physical disorders, such as injury, or drugs, or faulty "wiring" - or, in the narrative of bottom-up causation, genes. Functional disorders, by contrast, are those that occur in the apparent absence of physical causes (e.g., dysfunctional family context, stresses, trauma, PTSD). My own interpretation, based on my assumption that *experiences* wire the neuroplastic brain, is that in the absence of obvious organic (physical) injury, *most* psychiatric disorders are likely to be functional (relating to experiences). Bilder takes great care to tease apart cause and effect, but his mistake is to conflate correlation for bottom-up causation - for example at 9:46 - "All of the messy biology between the genetic level and these high-level syndromes is probably going to have to be understood in detail and mechanistically [...] how could this group of genes produce this kind of change in cellular systems [...]" BOTTOM LINE: Correlation does not equate to bottom-up causation. The life sciences need to get out of this rut of bottom-up causation. The correlation could also come from the top-down, and I would suggest that in terms of phenomics *in the absence of injury* this would be the majority of the time. Traumatic experiences intercepted by human mind-bodies wire neuroplastic brains traumatically.
@Gotenham
@Gotenham Жыл бұрын
I wonder if they could use ai somehow to find correlations in the data and give us leads on how to piece it all together
@haroonaverroes6537
@haroonaverroes6537 Жыл бұрын
8:40 brain-stem and limbic system then the consciousness process (type one) ion the cortex and ...... temporary memory is a kind of manifestation or tool in in larger process (consciousness type one) even though it used in dreams too. 9:00 they have misinterpretations !
@haroonaverroes6537
@haroonaverroes6537 Жыл бұрын
they mean temporary memory by saying working memory! schizophrenia related to the process of generating so-called personal identity using both hemispheres of the brain, it is a very complex process, but to concise: the right hemisphere is a kind of simulation of self concept itself and the left side is for logic and .....etc any damage could damage the whole process at the end (both sides generate one entity in a complex process), temporary memory has to do with both sides in cognition process "complex",..... but that is not the only reason for so-called schizophrenia, because consciousness process has a trigger action (about 45° from the center of limbic system up to the cortex) hard to go into details here,....... (hard to understand)
@maxsterling8203
@maxsterling8203 Жыл бұрын
Which part of the limbic system is considered the center ? Interesting comment thank you
@haroonaverroes6537
@haroonaverroes6537 Жыл бұрын
look carefully to the structure of Limbic system and the functions of its parts and the location of cerebellum. I have wrote something about the current computer architecture, that was my own thoughts, I did not connect it to the brain structure that time, it was an email sent it to many companies before but there was no reply! I have published that email on this youtube channel but probably deleted or hid. lately one of the companies adopted my thoughts about storage management, storage management was just part but, I told them that it is the first step !
@maxsterling8203
@maxsterling8203 Жыл бұрын
@@haroonaverroes6537 I understand. I have an intuition that you are on the right track. I’m fascinated , I’ve seen comments here refer to the “brain/mind problem” well a recent book I haven’t read , nevertheless , The Secret Life Of The Basal Ganglia Hagai Bergman MIT Press introduces this life as the base of brain and mind. I don’t have extra money to buy books I get all the knowledge I can that’s free so thank you for the compelling information ✅
@haroonaverroes6537
@haroonaverroes6537 Жыл бұрын
the current architecture of computers is not the proper one, better to rethink about it to restructure it and to give a chance to improve AI. regarding human brain architecture it is a very advanced technology, I am pretty sure it will keep humans amazed in future even after thousands of years to come. humans do not recognize yet that they are on the top of one of the most advanced technology in existence itself.
@haroonaverroes6537
@haroonaverroes6537 Жыл бұрын
better to look carefully to 3 D model, it is really strange, the new computer structure I have mentioned is similar to the structure of human brain even though I never connected it to human brain !
@mattelwood369
@mattelwood369 Жыл бұрын
Now well now you see the frontal lobe cortex stores my science about the brain in the brain and my cognition leads to the activation state that is validated by all the experiments I been doing and it's all very complicated but I believe it's also very fascinating that maybe one day I could map the entire thing and solve all the problems so long as I don't start forgetting all the things as I determine that to be a negative cause of all the bad happenings or at least most of them sometimes probably
@mi20-
@mi20- Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately in this channel most of the time questions asked are irrelevant to the bigger questions about our purpose.
@vincentrose9114
@vincentrose9114 Жыл бұрын
It reminds me of a quote: Life has no purpose. If it did, we would not be free
@paddlefar9175
@paddlefar9175 Жыл бұрын
@@vincentrose9114 Nice quote! I like this one too: A religious believer asking, “if there is no god, what purpose do we have then?”
@vincentrose9114
@vincentrose9114 Жыл бұрын
yeah but in the grand scheme of things it is inconsequential whether we survive/expand or not. thats purpose, but only in relation to humans as a living biological organism. purpose is kind of a weird concept when you really think of it. Like physically, there is a purpose to eat food. Cuz if I don't my body will die, and that is not desirable haha But what concrete purpose is there for me to exist at all? haha Maybe thats just an abstract thought but.. I am still left scratching my head when it comes to figuring out the 'purpose' of life/existence. I kinda tend to think there really is no concrete answer to that. And I think I am fine with that. But yeah, those are just my musings.. I respect your view
@vincentrose9114
@vincentrose9114 Жыл бұрын
@@Braun09tv haha cool man thank for letting me know what I meant lol
@mi20-
@mi20- Жыл бұрын
Many people know what that purpose is but it is something that they don't like or desire. And that's why they don't even want to look at it and give it some thought. Cuz it's scary for them at first.
@B.S...
@B.S... Жыл бұрын
Phenomics will be understood by AGI within the next 10 years.
@ahuman9864
@ahuman9864 Жыл бұрын
How does the guest get paid for a living?
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 Жыл бұрын
Each human being has natural choice with God (central authority), and informs other people; any other choice with a different human / central authority conflict with the natural central authority of God, likely causing schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and similar or associated mental health issues
@stevecoley8365
@stevecoley8365 Жыл бұрын
X-Files Real Intelligence "The perception of beauty is a moral test." Henry David Thoreau. This is the real IQ test. This test also determines if one is human. Light and truth (love) cause vampires (greed) great pain and suffering. That's why the words compassion, understanding, society (socialism), community (communism), "care for all" and "green new deal" cause the capitalist counting corpses that rule US such misery. But the words sanction, starve, torture, murder and bomb are encouraged. Because these ugly words suck the joy out of humans with their ignorance (hate). The hostile evangelical vampires (greed) are inhumane because they are not human. The capitalist counting corpses commit crimes against humanity because they are not human. Vampires (greed) are blind and cannot see the ignorance of transforming heaven (peace) into hell (war). The capitalist counting corpses are also blind and cannot see the ignorance of destroying the planet. The evangelical monsters are extremely "desperate" to control a darkship called the Whitehouse. Because working in the dark to suck the joy out of life and destroy the planet is the only way that the loveless, lifeless parasites can survive and thrive. It's also how the hostile alien invaders keep their human capital (cattle) corralled. Unlike earthling human beings and creators of joy...the capitalist counting corpses that rule US can't create harmony (real intelligence) because vampires (greed) are far worse than stupid. The loveless, lifeless parasites are ignorant (dead). Vampires (greed) who suck the joy out of life have joined the zombies who eat the futures of their children. Zombie Apocalypse is here and happening now. Question. Why are the evangelical counting corpses using the bible as a springboard to perform somersaults to do the exact opposite of "love their neighbors" and "treat others like they want to be treated." Answer. This is sick. Because these simple concepts are too far out there to grasp for vampires and zombies. Lead into gold Tears into roses Weapons into ploughshares
@shehrosemian
@shehrosemian Жыл бұрын
Epistemically deeply disorganized and quite likely false. If Bilder is considered innovative in his field, we have a serious problem in neuropsychiatric genetics research.
@shehrosemian
@shehrosemian Жыл бұрын
@@cosminvisan520 Instrumental materialism of the most commercial convenience more like :O
@shehrosemian
@shehrosemian Жыл бұрын
@@cosminvisan520 Short-sighted view you have there, frankly.
@jamenta2
@jamenta2 Жыл бұрын
When "brains Go Bad" does not resolve the mind/body problem. Sorry if you think it does.
@chilluminati1292
@chilluminati1292 Жыл бұрын
Nobody said it did or does.
@AlexLifeson1985
@AlexLifeson1985 Жыл бұрын
what is the "mind/brain" problem ? They are the same thing, just variations on a theme.
@johnyharris
@johnyharris Жыл бұрын
*"When "brains Go Bad" does not resolve the mind/body problem. Sorry if you think it does."* No need to apologise. I was once very nearly converted to dualism. What convinced otherwise, is the fact that awareness is only a small proportion of brain functionality. We do not consciously design and construct our thoughts and the words we speak by the rapid movement of tongue. That construction happens without us being aware of it and we only think, speak once fully constructed and become aware. Consciousness is not in control, the brain is and our conscious selves are not privy to what makes us so.
@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC
@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC Жыл бұрын
@@johnyharris *"Consciousness is not in control, the brain is and our conscious selves are not privy to what makes us so"* ... Nature is programmed for survival. A brain (information) signals "flight or fight" whenever a lifeform is in danger. So, when someone consciously chooses to end their own life, they are willfully acting against the internal programming of nature. A brain that emerges from nature and then denies the nature that is serves indicates the presence of a consciousness (higher information) that's separate from the brain.
@jeffamos9854
@jeffamos9854 Жыл бұрын
Mind/body proplem ?. Sounds like you need to see a doctor. Don’t think CTT will help you.
@qhudz_
@qhudz_ Жыл бұрын
Alot of nothing
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