Robert Fripp's New Standard Tuning | Reverb Learn to Play

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In the early 1980s, Robert Fripp, a constant innovator, introduced New Standard Tuning. The strings from low to high are tuned CGDAEG. In this lesson, Joe demonstrates the tuning and how using it and other alternate tunings can introduce fresh ideas to your playing.
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@PointyTailofSatan 7 жыл бұрын

The funny thing is, Fripp almost never gets mentioned in lists of the greatest guitarists in rock. But really, along with Jimi, Fripp is one of the very few guitarists to actually extend the sound of the guitar, with his unique riffs and solos, rhythms, and tunings that allow him to plays things almost impossible to play on a regular tuned guitar. No wonder he requires band support from other brilliant technical musicians who can "keep up", like Bill Bruford.

@Muzikman127 6 жыл бұрын

So what should I listen to by Fripp?

@troy8420 6 жыл бұрын

Guitar work on St. Elmo's Fire by Brian Eno

@gavinreid8351 5 жыл бұрын

@@Muzikman127 his work with Bowie, David Sylvian, King Crimson.

@umpygoodness2369 5 жыл бұрын

@@Muzikman127 FRlPP HAS C0VERED A L0T 0F GR0vND. (EX: he plays the crazy s0l0 0n B0WlE's "FASHl0N") (F0RGlVE my glltchlng APPLE keyb0ard!) MAYBE START WlTH 1973's LARKS T0NGvES lN ASPlC?

@BlueGrenadeTom 4 жыл бұрын

PointyTailofSatan I reckon his most accessible work was with Bowie on Heroes and Scary Monsters.

@joejohnson273 4 жыл бұрын

That tape machine on the left is stunned by his playing.

@nick3718 4 жыл бұрын

lmao

@hamidahmed8076 4 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha 🤣

@kamealex 4 жыл бұрын

Dying here.

@JamesPCroad 4 жыл бұрын

LOL moment of my month 😂

@damienhelmold6978 4 жыл бұрын

This made me laugh out loud

@watts111 7 жыл бұрын

Tom Waits once said: "The problem with playing the same instrument all the time is, your hands always fly to the familiar chords." I was reminded of that here. Excellent video...

@Mr13wonderboy77 7 жыл бұрын

He also said, "music is just a very interesting thing to be doing with the air". Love Tom Waits.

@watts111 7 жыл бұрын

DavidRavenMoon - so true! Keith Richards' famous '5-string guitar' is in non-standard tuning AND has no Low E string. And sounds Epic.

@crimsun7186 7 жыл бұрын

"The problem with speaking the same language all the times is, your mind always fly to the familiar words" This argument doesn't make much sense.

@sabatino1977 6 жыл бұрын

Tom Waits once said, "Grrr rrwaar rwwr brra graa geaa."

@billwesley 6 жыл бұрын

Chords are like words, the same words can be put together in original or unoriginal ways, the problem is not being stuck on the same chords but rather on the same chord TRANSITIONS which is exactly what alternative turnings provide, an opportunity to explore alternative transitions once the chords are learned. There is no need to tune strings to 12 equal ether, open strings may be tuned to just intervals for example., pure fifths or fourths or thirds or minor thirds that can be moved to any fret, something a keyboard could not do in the same simple way.

@Alex-vc2mg 7 жыл бұрын

"I can't really get into the mind of Robert Fripp,". I don't think mere mortals could even fathom what the Crimson One thinks.

@cwirk 7 жыл бұрын

Don't misquote the man! He never said "can't" !

@lanatrzczka 7 жыл бұрын

lol "angled camera bullshit" so true

@deepundaground 7 жыл бұрын

Naah, my pet dog got ran over.

@steersman-zv2ng 6 жыл бұрын

ima man ... you're in the wrong tuning, careful you dont break a string.

@JohnFoxBass 6 жыл бұрын

RIGHT, @Christopher Caldera! Use of quotes is reserved for when you are quoting someone, @Alex! He actually said: "I don't expect to necessarily get in the mind of Robert Fripp in this lesson, ..." Try listening again at kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZrCkZLl00a2-loU.htmlm37s

@lessthanpinochet 4 жыл бұрын

Robert Fripp might just be the most innovative guitarist of all time.

@vesper5609 7 жыл бұрын

" A mind is like parachute.It doesn`t work if it is not open." - Frank Zappa.

@Foxglove963 6 жыл бұрын

Vesper. Now if he had said the mind is like a shroom. But no, Zappa was a tobacco addict, that's all he ever knew.

@jpc_337 6 жыл бұрын

“Maybe I’m a rock.” - Frank Zappa

@alessioridolfo1132 5 жыл бұрын

Vesper Nice!

@glwavtech 5 жыл бұрын

Prof. Walter Kotschnig told Holyoke College students to keep their minds open-“but not so open that your brains fall out.”

@rgolten 5 жыл бұрын

@@Foxglove963 yes 'tobacco is my favourite vegetable' FZ

@netenemy 7 жыл бұрын

Crafty Guitarists Do Always Eat Good

@dhill05 7 жыл бұрын

Cocky Guitarists Don't Always Excite Girls

@mandu9520 7 жыл бұрын

Crappy Guitarists Definitely Aren't Exceptionally Gifted

@freddymclain 7 жыл бұрын

total sabotage of the Every Ass Does Get Beaten Eventually tuning that we all know. I met Robert Fripp back in the 70's-very nice guy.

@ProtoShredanoid 7 жыл бұрын

HAHA I'm cracking up over the EADGBE!

@captainpiefox9133 7 жыл бұрын

Crimson Guitarists Don't Always Expect Good

@modularcuriosity 5 жыл бұрын

The new standard, or "Crafty tuning" because it's what Fripp's League of Crafty Guitarist use, can be remembered as : Crafty Guitarists Don't Always Eat Good.

@ThoseSleepless 7 жыл бұрын

seriously one of the best videos I've seen online in a while. This lesson is as inspiring as any new pedal or amp I could purchase.

@honkyvanwildebeest8926 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for explaining and giving examples of how unusual this tuning sounds. I had never heard of Fripp until I heard David Sylvian's Gone to Earth. I have never heard such beautiful and unexpected playing. Thank you again for being one of the best at giving us a window into his style.

@thomasr8185 7 жыл бұрын

Very happy to see this, Reverb. I'm beggining to get into different tunings and stuff, so I'm glad you showed this. Also, I love when Joe is in your videos, he's very good :)

@danopticon 7 жыл бұрын

I'm so happy you guys are creating videos relating to Robert Fripp, my favorite guitarist, and someone I could spend a lifetime trying to be half as good as!! Wildly influential, and I think criminally under-appreciated today. In a fair universe his name'd be on the tip of people's tongues right along with Hendrix. Please, please, please explore this man's work more!!! I will keep my eyes-and ears-glued, promise! 😍

@Pulse2AM 7 жыл бұрын

So cool! I am a big fan of Fripp and have been since the early 80's. I never knew how he got those note combos, I guess this explains it.

@DamienTheCat 7 жыл бұрын

Will be meeting Fripp and seeing him perform at the Count Basie Theatre this July and I truly can't wait... what an incredible guitar player and even more fantastic composer... he is unmatched!

@Kreln1221 4 жыл бұрын

I would think that perhaps part of the inspiration of Fripp's New Standard Tuning would be that violin family instruments, including violas and cellos, and mandolin family instruments, including mandolas and mando-cellos, are all tuned in fifths, so in classical music and traditional folk, that type of tuning is already used by many musicians, just not necessarily guitarists. Also, you get an extended range instrument, both on the top and the bottom, all while using a standard instrument.

@fisch723 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome. I've been using this tuning on the Variax. Opens up so many new possibilities..

@mikoschannel6413 3 жыл бұрын

Just brilliant. Tuned my acoustic, just to try it, and straight away playing around the whole neck. Such a beautiful tuning. I think I now need to have one electric guitar just in that tuning.

@moose1689 6 жыл бұрын

Very inspiring! Just realized how versatile stuff Reverb uploads!

@thomaszonkowski2115 7 жыл бұрын

THE BEST VIDEO from Reverb so far

@sebastianschmidt8629 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah!

@fintanwardell 4 жыл бұрын

✔️ Thanks to Joe for thoughtfully sign-posting the improbable Mr. Fripp.

@dkaniewski5862 7 жыл бұрын

This was actually very informative, getting into theory. Nice job, Reverb!

@jonbongjovi1869 2 жыл бұрын

but he didn't tell us WHY it was created, or WHAT advantage it gave Fripp! To me that was the TOP question

@M_B_J 4 жыл бұрын

When i heard mid-70s King Crimson about 25 years ago as a teenager it blew my mind. Changed my idea of what rock music could be. Fripp is one of the greats.

@Bramhallthefifth 6 жыл бұрын

I had thought he always used this... never knew he developed it as late as 1983. It sounds so natural to the way he always played.

@daftdoggo7662 7 жыл бұрын

The Frippaccino

@34672rr 5 жыл бұрын

This one of the only one if not the only one of this series (and most musical instruction videos i have seen) i have learned anything of importance (for me and my music) from. I kind of already knew it, because i play bass and keys and use each other's shapes on each other, but I never really thought of tuning the bass differently than fourths in order to get even more shapes. He's completely right though, you go back to shapes you are comfortable with and while you may experiment, it's difficult to find new patterns that feel good if you are not forced to. Great way to be creative. I bought a bass recently to flip, but I think I might keep it and try tuning in fifths.

@dooleyfussle8634 4 жыл бұрын

Lots of bass players tune in fifths, fewer chords. You can use a B string to get that low C. You may have to adjust your relief some after it settles in.

@lordundhimself1310 5 жыл бұрын

Please do a Crimson-era John Wetton video! Why is there no love for one of the most vicious bassist of all time?!

@MarceloKatayama Жыл бұрын

John Wetton is my favourite bassist, so I agree! Such a thick and crunchy tone and amazingly aggressive style

@TeiscoCurlee 7 жыл бұрын

I play mostly in a similar tuning, but I tune from a low F to a high E so 5ths all the way. Really cool!

@SterlingSimmons22 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for this video! I've been needing this!

@stonerdemon 4 жыл бұрын

04:17 That's some 2000's Radiohead in my ears. Nice!

@braziliantvhd2768 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I tried this tuning some years ago and string broke as soon as I started playing.

@KeEtMc93 3 жыл бұрын

You need the thinnest strings for it to not break.

@keithklassen5320 3 жыл бұрын

Most people using this tuning use different string guages; thin ones get thinner, thick ones get thicker. As he says, it also needs a special setup.

@lex3729 3 жыл бұрын

Fripp explained that, essentially, you just need to will it into tune, it won't break. 😉

@m.f.3347 3 жыл бұрын

Fripp uses a 9 on the high string

@edgewatergearvault9881 3 жыл бұрын

Same lol

@BrettHoustonTube 3 ай бұрын

That was super cool. Thanks!

@bobgreen623 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent sounding guitar Joe

@kdakan 3 жыл бұрын

Violin, viola, and mandolin are tuned in 5ths, but they have a very short scale length. This tuning can be usable when playing chords, or melodies with large jump intervals, but not scales or linear lines. You can play scales on the higher fret positions, but in lower frets you have to stretch your fingers wide to reach all the notes in the scale.

@rollingon5566 4 жыл бұрын

Being honest, I've recently tuned a guitar down to c standard and it's unlocked some insane amount of new playing possiblities, so I literally think doing something new in general will breed new ideas

@presterjack9764 2 жыл бұрын

Lower tension on the strings and lower notes, this is a big part of how Black Sabbath's sound came to be. It's not a fancy tuning but that doesn't mean it's not a good idea

@PurpleBulbous 6 жыл бұрын

Fripp dreamed this tuning up because it was more logical. (all chords (normally) have fifths, so why not tune a guitar in fifths...) It was *not* done in order to take your same ole tired EADGBE licks and repurpose them. That's the opposite usage as intended! (mostly unmusical sounding since "random" outside notes are picked up) With this tuning... all normal chords, major and minor, including 7th chords are made easier, because longer fingers go to thicker strings and shorter fingers go to thinner strings. In normal tuning, many times the longer fingers have to pick up notes on closer strings, while the shorter fingers have to reach up for notes on further strings... Take out some graph paper and draw some chord forms.... you'll soon see that forming chords is suddenly 100 times easier. Even if you can't finger a Maj, Min, Maj7, Min7, and Dom 7 chord with ease in standard tuning, you'll be able to play all of these chord types from ANY root note within a week!

@ZkaLy6 6 жыл бұрын

PurpleBulbous Hmmm. I think is more likely He learned... From the teachings of Gurdieff.

@RaymondPeckIII 5 жыл бұрын

More importantly, scales lay out in pairs of 4-note patterns and are uniform across the bottom 4 strings. Scale playing is about 12,000 times more logical in NST.

@juliangonzalez2953 5 жыл бұрын

He said he wasn't going yo get into Fripp's mind tho

@juliangonzalez2953 5 жыл бұрын

He said he wasn't going yo get into Fripp's mind tho

@andsalomoni 5 жыл бұрын

The NST is not more logical for the guitar. A fifths tuning is perfectly logical for short scale melodic instruments like the violin and the viola, but it is uncomfortable and hindering for a counterpoint instrument like the guitar. It makes difficult to play what is simple, so I would never call it "standard".

@PecktheTownCrierVideos 6 жыл бұрын

This is inspiring, thank you!

@RockStarOscarStern634 4 жыл бұрын

In order to tune in Fifths, C, G, D, A, E, B simply use Octave4Plus Fifths tuning strings and the High B String is a .006 string so for a High B stick to a .006 (or less) so that way you'll minimize tension.

@Ramble1234 3 жыл бұрын

I tuned a ukulele to D A E B no problem

@DjangoThunders 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video!

@tylermorgan5924 4 жыл бұрын

Very cool! Gonna have to try this out

@whitorblius 7 жыл бұрын

Definitely gonna try this out!

@danielmckay6000 6 жыл бұрын

Terrific video, thanks!!!

@sp00g37 4 жыл бұрын

love the idea. i change tuning and time signature all the time just to make new ideas. even if its simple, being a different thing is a major difference

@damiensmith371 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Guys, great one!

@DrRussPhd 6 жыл бұрын

Fripp/King Crimson have always been outside of the "box" . . which is why they are STILL not in the Corporate Profit Rock 'n Roll Hall of (record sales) Fame.

@Ottophil 4 жыл бұрын

DrRussPhd or they sold less records cause they suck

@limaxmaximus4762 4 жыл бұрын

@@Ottophil yeah dude, that's definitely true, good job.

@kitchenmaster43 4 жыл бұрын

Hugh tube Robert fripp is one of the most arrogant and full of themselves musicians who ever lived

@88omair 4 жыл бұрын

Mr Fripp wasn't even aware there was a box to begin with

@shinji5217 4 жыл бұрын

@@kitchenmaster43 and it works, so, who cares? I don't

@presterjack9764 2 жыл бұрын

For me the benefit of fifths tuning is a regular tuning with easy chord voicings. I prefer all-fifths, and compared to NST, I would even prefer removing the high G string and only playing with 5 strings in fifths. I'm a big fan of Fripp and the NST idea was a big inspiration for me to try the fifths tuning. I also play very short-scale guitars that have just become more common in the last couple years, which is great for all fifths

@theflowerpotify 7 жыл бұрын

I like these videos. Simple and great interaction and information. Would you make one talking about the guitar part for Book of Saturday? I just really wanna watch you go into it thats all.

@SuperGorak 6 жыл бұрын

great insight and ideas!

@michaelmattson3515 4 жыл бұрын

Cool , gonna give it a try. Thanks

@Filpiovano 7 жыл бұрын

Great Video!

@dr.weaklicksofcrashedcurse4535 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your lesson, it does actually open one’s mind 😁 I am considering tuning one of my guitars in the NST way and trying to imitate Robert Fripp’s style, this is probably going to be a difficult journey 🤔

@mattbacon285 5 жыл бұрын

Nice lesson, man!

@phogue1 7 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@davidsommerville2213 4 жыл бұрын

For most of us, it’s just a matter of rewiring our brains’ expectations of pitches via hand shapes. The player in this video seems to totally get it. Well done and thoughtful.

@catbutler1343 7 жыл бұрын

As a tenor guitar player (in both CGDA and GDAE) I love this tuning for the six string (or twelve really--why be limited?). I tuned an old SG 6 string to this on my own I had a while back--didn't realize Robert Fripp tuned this way.

@tombarnes7846 7 жыл бұрын

Ace. Those scales just burst in Crimso colors with shades reminiscent from the ECM label in the 70's & 80's. Thanks for sharing this.

@traildoggy 6 жыл бұрын

1 - My Mandofingers love this! 2 - I have been thinking of converting a 12 string to a 10 string 'cittern' which would be tuned CGDAE in unison pairs. Essentially the bottom 4 strings are a Mandocello and the top 4 are an Octave Mandolin. This is the same, but with the high G added. If you look around here you'll find videos of some 12 strings converted to this 10 string setup.

@dooleyfussle8634 4 жыл бұрын

Just make sure the neck on the 12 is really well braced. I caved mine across the top of the sound hole and sheared off the neck block when I tried to convert mine to a bass mando cello guitar with 6 double courses.

@RME76048 5 жыл бұрын

Fun too, on standard tuning, to pick a chord, say, any major chord, then play all the first inversions of it that your fingers can manage to semi-comfortably 'twister' on the neck, then the second inversion. Then find which open strings 'drone' well with it. Nothing like Fripp's NST, but fun and ear-opening just the same.

@soundscapes2300 4 жыл бұрын

Ahhahaha. I got excited and paused the vid and grabbed my guitar and thru it in new standard because I've done it once ahahha but must have lucked out coz I def snapped my high E tuning it up to that G. So I unpause it and first thing he says is "do not just go grab your guitar and throw it in New Standard" . Great video man, you couldn't have said it better I def was curious about it after the first time I played in NS and it just worked out and made sense and great riffs. 😃

@n2space4u 7 жыл бұрын

thanks for posting

@ericmalone3213 7 жыл бұрын

The New Standard Tuning was designed for ensemble playing, with particular attention to the hocket. I'd love to see this tuning find its way out of Crafty Guitarist circles and find an application in the sort of dance music that Jojo Mayer had been doing. I would love to hear the guitarists in Deerhoof adopt this tuning and have at it. &c &c. Thank you Reverb. Thank you Joe.

@CasualT840 6 жыл бұрын

Eric Malone Haunted Shores

@jonbongjovi1869 2 жыл бұрын

have you seen the videos of aussie band KING GIZZARD and the LIZARD WIZARD..... from their album with MICROTONAL guitars on it? Check it out. WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF NST? What does it do that Fripp prefers, that regular tuning can't do?

@ericmalone3213 2 жыл бұрын

@@jonbongjovi1869 Yes, I know King Gizzard's microtonal stuff. Mr Fripp's New Standard Tuning extends the range of the guitar, with E going down to C; A going down to G; D staying the same; G going up to A; B going up to E; and E going up to G. "What does it do that Fripp prefers, that regular tuning can't do?" Listen to The League of Crafty Guitarists. CHEERS

@jonbongjovi1869 2 жыл бұрын

@@ericmalone3213 Oh. When I got my first guitar at 17, the FIRST thing I did was change the standard tuning, so my highest note was HIGHER than other guitars and the low was LOWER than other guitars, cuz i hated the REDUNDANCY on a 6 string guitar. (If i could, all my electric guitars would be 4 strings, but they cover the same low-to-high notes of regular 6 strings. You don't need all that waste in there! My electronic uke is my fave! FOUR STRINGS. Keep it super simple! ) (My low note ["E" string] was 5 notes / frets LOWER than Drop D, so whatever that is!) I gather NST also goes lower and higher than other 6 strings in normal tuning, from what you say. (I refuse to learn the letters of the strings.) I saw the League of CG with Fripp in the 1980s (or was it 1990s?) and it was pretty stunning if you're in the same room....but i never noticed any pitches or such that seemed unusually low or high. Of course, Fripp COULD just have more frets put on the higher strings! EX: Michael Angelo Batis (sp?) has a guitar with like 28 frets (!) and Uli Jon Roth has one around that many, too. DOESN'T NST WARP & TWIST THE NECK? ARE THERE ANY OTHER ADVANTAGES FOR FRIPP or other guitarists? (I get that cellists and others should use NST for the same shapes they already know....)

@jonbongjovi1869 2 жыл бұрын

@@ericmalone3213 HA: musicians who know Ovation guitars.......get their minds blown when they see my main axe: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/icWmq7SArZaZYYk.html 2 BIGGEST LESSON I learned accidentally, that we should tell all guitarists: 1) GO 3/4 guitar! Easier to play! Lighter. More Fun. Etc! Takes up less room, etc! (Unless ya have really big hands.) I think that's one reason Chris Squire is my fave bassist ever: BIG DUDE, so that Rickenbacke bass was a toy in his hands! Thank goodness 3/4 guitars are all over the place now and even in most Guitar Centers. SMARTEST decision of my entire life, other than... 2) PRACTICING every day OUTDOORS was smarter than all other decisions I will ever make....COMBINED, holy smokes. (EX: I got paid the FIRST day I owned a drumkit and started practicing in a home depot lot, with my Ludwig JR kit! Funny and small. Sounds great! Neil Peart and Buddy Rich didn't get paid their first day! or their 500th day! I get paid EVERY DAY to practice! And pretty girls all yell out that they love me!) AND my profit margin is 100% - 200%, while U2 and Metallica's profit margin is like 4%! THEY HAVE TO TOUR (which is insanely inefficient)...cuz they ONLY PREACH TO THE CONVERTED. (OOOF!) I play to every human with eyes and ears! (My audience is 99% BIGGER than all the biggest pop and rock acts....COMBINED! every child of every race hears and sees my avant instrumental stunts! every uptight banker hears it! every person who doesn't know much music hears MY music!) I never run out of paying customers! Plus, they pay me $20 for 1 MINUTE of music (!!) as they're passing by! Not bad!! No one ever paid Led Zep MORE than the ticket price! But most of my tips are over the price of passing by! ($1 is The Normal Tip. Most of my tips are more than that! I get $50s and $100s pretty frequently too!!) PLAY OUTDOORS PLAY OUTDOORS PLAY OUTDOORS! Plus it makes everyone smile! I make strangers DANCE every day, walking down sidewalks in public. It's magical! I control their bodies and minds!! When couples walk by and the gal starts dancing to my loopstorms, I want to say to the dude "Ha! I just MIND-CONTROLLED YOUR GF'S BODY!! SHE IS FEELING ME INSIDE HER RIGHT NOW!"

@nneth49 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! Fretless bass/keyboard player here.

@crimsun7186 7 жыл бұрын

It's interesting to note that the string gauge that is recommended for NST is a set of 011s. Also, the original version of NST was an all fifths tuning, but Fripp had problems getting strings that could do the high B required by the tuning, so he ended up with the last two strings (from low to high) being a minor third apart instead. The tuning Frank Gambale developed recently seems more rational and can be picked up very fast.

@StephenAndrew777 7 жыл бұрын

The best songs I've written were on a left-handed guitar and I'm right-handed, so I totally get this. Very interesting.

@zebdoz333 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting for sure

@blacklotus3205 4 жыл бұрын

Try playing message in a bottle by the police with this tuning it’s way easier

@offmymeds2994 4 жыл бұрын

If I have to pee at night, I dont get up, I just a have a 2liter bottle next to my bed.

@kdakan 3 жыл бұрын

It's easy to play using drop D tuning.

@georgedeshurley2429 6 жыл бұрын

This is so cool!!!

@mrwisbet 4 жыл бұрын

The similarities in shape with some of Joni Mitchell's later and unique tunings, like Edith and the Kingpin, are interesting.

@calebblack1420 4 жыл бұрын

thank you for that warning about trying to tune your guitar this way. I got my E string all the way to D before I was wondering how much more she could take lol, thought it was about to snap.

@bveracka 5 жыл бұрын

Seems like a fanned fret guitar would work well for this tuning because of the bigger difference in string tension than standard EADGBE. It's (probably) a similar amount of tension across the board, but each string has been changed considerably, especially the highest and lowest strings. A high E _and_ G is pretty tight!

@SuburbanBehemoth 7 жыл бұрын

You can always get your strings from a company like Kalium Strings, who can choose the proper gauge string for your scale length and tuning.

@swagnostic132 7 жыл бұрын

Suburban Behemoth only thing is that its very much up to the player to discern what feels best rather than just looking up a chart and hoping it feels okay haha

@OneGuitarist 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I first heard this in the 90s when he released his CD. Certainly unique, although I don't love all the music I've heard created with this. That's not necessarily a bad thing, because it does make you think and try different ways to create things. Definitely worth check out, in my opinion.

@andsalomoni 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is worth to check out, but when you get used to it, also the New Standard Tuning becomes a habit, with all the bad consequences of any habit (repetitivness, mechanicity, etc.). You can think and create different things with the normal tuning too, it is a matter of awareness and musical ideas, not of tunings.

@offmymeds2994 4 жыл бұрын

I tuned a guitar like this after 8 mins of practicing, I could breathe underwater.

@RUFFLEEmusic 7 жыл бұрын

A more sensible approach with string tension that I've seen is the OTHER Fourths Tuning ( FCGDAE ) that Tom Quale uses - in theory, "low extended violin." The win with either of these is that a scalar shape doesn't change, no matter where you play the root. Therefore, once you learn a pattern, you can start it on any string without relearning fingering.

@-k-b- 3 жыл бұрын

I play in this tuning but a step down (so A#,F,C,G,D,F). I'll put a capo on if I want a higher low note but man it's such a fun tuning! Oxbow plays in a similar tuning (C,G,D,A,B,E) that's also lots of fun to play in.

@walshy2116 6 жыл бұрын

Very cool man.

@mnbv990 6 жыл бұрын

The man is a genius.

@maxmillington8363 7 жыл бұрын

Very cool to see this featured here

@jscurley 7 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

@KarlHainer 5 жыл бұрын

Love Fripp.

@offdutyjie 7 жыл бұрын

Strangely enough, reminds me of Josh Homme for some strange reason lol! Maybe because hes a lot in the C standard tuning and is dwelling a lot in the beautiful desert with his sound lol!

@MisterJawaman 7 жыл бұрын

It's the Lydian tonality he mentioned in the video, Homme does that as well a lot of the time while soloing.

@XxKOPER13xX 7 жыл бұрын

Jie Lee I was thinking the same thing.

@guymann3711 7 жыл бұрын

as a fan of both i can see some overlap how they are creating a sinister yet beautiful sound.....

@jlocesariq 5 жыл бұрын

For people looking for more information about this, about Fripp and more related music, you can check the documental Careful With That Axe, which you can find also here in KZfaq.

@misterroberts4240 4 жыл бұрын

i once tuned my tele to 5ths, very interesting sound for sure

@jasonfarrar4737 7 жыл бұрын

Well done! It's so great to see a non Guitar Craft guy dive right in. I'm a (mainly) 4 stringed bassist who's messed around with BEAD, CGDA and other crazy iterations. Breaching plateaus and forcing yourself back to being a novice is as good a reason as any to try this fun stuff!

@steersman-zv2ng 6 жыл бұрын

Wow that tuning makes the notes really Ring.

@PorFerLuis 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Joe, Where can I find the blog you talk about at the beginning of the video? I want to try this on my PRS SC245 but you said that the guitar should be set up first. Thanks.

@masonharris9166 7 жыл бұрын

I would suggest somthing between .99 and .00000001 Your welcome in advance

@wonderpope 7 жыл бұрын

Sounds like some of the QOTSA stuff...when he plays the pentatonics.

@wonderpope 7 жыл бұрын

Sorry...I mean QOTSA...it was a typo...I edited it.

@profd65 5 жыл бұрын

@Wadsmitter I don't think Josh Homme took anything from King Crimson.

@joshstiehl1170 4 жыл бұрын

@@profd65 yeah, if he did his music would sound a lot better

@profd65 4 жыл бұрын

@@joshstiehl1170 Or at least a lot more pretentious.

@joshstiehl1170 4 жыл бұрын

@@profd65 Touché

@DiscGolfAlej 5 жыл бұрын

I learned on a guitar missing the D string and i tuned it to CG CEG. It help me learn super fast

@dagnabbit6187 Жыл бұрын

Shapes ! Of things be on my mind

@RaspySquares 7 жыл бұрын

I love this tunkng

@lb2696 4 ай бұрын

I forgot about this Joe dude, he was coolx

@adamsrober 7 жыл бұрын

Just curious, what is the signal chain? Tone is awesome!!! Are the pickups on the LP aftermarket?

@GregJonson 4 жыл бұрын

If we wanted to maintain the fifths thing all the way without worrying about popping the highest string, we could do FCGDAE. That would maintain the range of a regular tuning while also getting into the 8 string register.

@samlee2562 7 жыл бұрын

Nashville tuning gives a nice fresh sound with familiar shapes if you've got a spare guitar and some old strings lying about

@jbasti227 6 жыл бұрын

Sam Lee What are the strings tuned to?

@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer 6 жыл бұрын

+Joseph Bastidas g o o g l e

@rickm1255 6 жыл бұрын

I gotta write that down

@gplito 5 жыл бұрын

@@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer Where is the O note?...I got the E and the G is easy enough, but a bit confused about that L note as well.

@ianstewart8243 5 жыл бұрын

@@gplito o = open string

@fartwrangler 4 жыл бұрын

Except for the G on top, you're basically just in mandolin-family tuning. Any mandolinist or mandolist (or violinist, for that matter) could just ignore the top string and all the fingerings would be normal for them. I played around with an all-5ths guitar tuning for a long time: CGDAEB The top "B" is too high to get with steel strings, so I use a classical guitar, and I use 0.019 monofilament fishing line for the top string. Even that breaks more frequently than any of the other strings, but I can usually get a couple of weeks out of it before it snaps. And it's cheap enough to replace -- I get a 100 yard roll of monofilament for what a standard single string costs. :) I love the tuning: it's like having a mandocello, mandola, and mandolin in one instrument.

@SterlingSimmons22 7 жыл бұрын

What's the link to the blog?

@cmasc3450 4 жыл бұрын

The scales sound like Majoras Maks songs in that tuning.

@omarelric 7 жыл бұрын

Holy shit, sounds nice

@VonWarwick 7 жыл бұрын

Changing tunings is the best way out of a rut that I know of

@theelysium 7 жыл бұрын

✌️🎶💕✌ another video on how to setup & pick strings, please!

@artgonewrong 7 жыл бұрын

Yes...what blog and where?

@Jar3D226 6 жыл бұрын

I think Ernie ball slinky top heavy bottoms will work, you can go onto the new standard tuning Wikipedia page and see the string gauge for them.

@mavmedia3365 6 жыл бұрын

Very thought-provoking video, Joe. Can you tell me what are you are using for that sweet spacey sound? Sounds like SoundToys Crystalizer plug-in. Is it a pedal??? Thanks.