Robert McKee's STORY Seminar - The Setting

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Robert McKee

Robert McKee

15 жыл бұрын

In this clip from the STORY Seminar, Robert McKee discusses why the setting of your film is so important.

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@bonehelm
@bonehelm 4 жыл бұрын
"The world of a story must be small enough that the mind of a single artist can come to understand that world in the depth and breadth of knowledge and detail that God knows this world" Mind blown 11 years later.
@JayFGrissom
@JayFGrissom 13 жыл бұрын
Just finished McKee's book (for fun, I'm not a "serious" story writer) and had to search for more of his work... Great stuff here! Thanks for posting this video! I'm definitely subscribing.
@SteveHovland
@SteveHovland 12 жыл бұрын
I've heard people make disparaging remarks about McKee. The more I listen to various bits by him on KZfaq the more I appreciate that he has thought long and hard about this and is very much worth listening to.
@rievans57
@rievans57 10 жыл бұрын
. . . limitations are inspirational . . .
@BenMcCormack91
@BenMcCormack91 15 жыл бұрын
I've never been to his seminars... but I have his book, "Story." I found it in Barnes and Noble, thought the cover looked awful, opened it, and realized it was amazing... True to the saying... I actually had an English teacher who was as good as McKee in high school - talked about the same sorts of things, though in terms of novels and short stories, not film. So this book was a great help to me, and I think it'd help audiences as well as writers.
@BassWakil
@BassWakil 13 жыл бұрын
@Maxcherrybailbonds Robert McKee does write. His unproduced screenplay MISS JULIE MONTGOMERY is excellent. The man can WRITE.
@Adrian101882
@Adrian101882 15 жыл бұрын
There's a quote of his which addresses your question: "The world is full of people who teach things they themselves cannot do"
@asher9349
@asher9349 3 жыл бұрын
He's so right. It's ironic but true... once you figure out what a story IS NOT...You feel oddly comforted and inspired to move about within those limits... invention is born from specific problems with specific challenges... limitations incite creativity... one does not see opportunity in a comfortable world.
@tgazza1587
@tgazza1587 3 жыл бұрын
You’re contradicting yourself. First you say that setting limitations on yourself as Mckee suggests makes you feel “oddly comforted”. Then you assert that “one does not see opportunity in a comfortable world”. Funnily enough this contradiction sums up for me why Mckee’s teachings are so misleading.
@asher9349
@asher9349 3 жыл бұрын
@@tgazza1587 your dumb. Shut up. Please..
@johannepoirier7111
@johannepoirier7111 6 жыл бұрын
Very generous.
@demboys18
@demboys18 14 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the fact that he has a "storylogue," now I just gota save up to join, lol.
@geoffdoor
@geoffdoor 11 жыл бұрын
he's good bob mckee i saw him in london and he was excellent ...i ve already had a screenplay accepted by the BBC and it needs a re write but they want to make it ...and they asked where did i learn to write and i said bob mckee...
@AaronRenOlson
@AaronRenOlson 14 жыл бұрын
A lot of popular books and movies sell well without paying attention to story structure ideas like McKee's... but we all know popularity does not mean the stories are good. At least McKee offers a framework to work around and to respond to, even if ultimately discarded or ignored.
@eleonb
@eleonb 15 жыл бұрын
I just took the Seminar in Chile a few days ago, and I totally recommend it for anyone. It's about writing, of course, but more than that it's about LIFE, human nature, human mind, human behaviour. If u have the chance to go, don't doubt it.
@Galacsia
@Galacsia 4 жыл бұрын
Welp... 10 years too late
@CrimeanHorseArcher
@CrimeanHorseArcher 7 жыл бұрын
It's the similar perspective when you watch a tiny object under a microscope. (just like Dostoyevski zooming in one particular human emotion) You realize how big and detailed is the thing you are looking at. Creating a macro-world story and a micro-world story are basically the same. Both are very complex and tidy.
@Flewti2
@Flewti2 13 жыл бұрын
McKee, Truby and Syd made the usefulness of analytical approach to scriptwriting popular and accessible. These men are keen critical thinkers and problem solvers. If would be screenwriters were to rely purely upon other credited screenwriters for instruction, most may end up writing like the instructors. Instead, the aforementioned trio equips the writer with skill sets culled from many works of literature and screenplays. Au contraire, Syd Field did write a few screenplays.
@christpunchers
@christpunchers 14 жыл бұрын
And the best movies are usually set in VERY small worlds (Kaufman's movies, Glengarry Glenross, STOL).
@cardiffwilly
@cardiffwilly 14 жыл бұрын
@MeatballsMarlowe Having just read his book, I agree that you have to take a lot of what McKee says with a pinch of salt. But I think what he's trying to say is that you can't have a story which can be taken out of its setting and still have the same meaning - I haven't read War and Peace, but I imagine that the story wouldn't work outside the context of the Napoleonic War. Every story must be confined to a one, clear, perfectly realised setting. Or something.
@Omnicient.
@Omnicient. 14 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where any of us can find a McKee's 'top ten' or 'top twenty' of 'rules' worth bearing in mind when we write? are the top ten tips in any of his books or better still, online?
@geoffdoor
@geoffdoor 14 жыл бұрын
mckee rocks and he smokes
@edwardgarrity7841
@edwardgarrity7841 6 жыл бұрын
genius
@BulletKatana1
@BulletKatana1 12 жыл бұрын
"Imagination is an old world. The times to give back to art is always coming. The grand scheme in world else is the dead black to end, where white of the write sheds the return to life in the find." James
@veritas6335
@veritas6335 4 жыл бұрын
WHAT?
@rodrigortr
@rodrigortr 13 жыл бұрын
veron films was here
@BulletKatana1
@BulletKatana1 12 жыл бұрын
I promise.
@mark1800
@mark1800 15 жыл бұрын
"You can't have a protagonist without desire, it doesn't make any sense. Any FUCKING sense!"
@__Tat__
@__Tat__ 15 жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong, I WORSHIP this man's honesty, expertise and wisdom...but WHAT has he written HIMSELF?
@MeatballsMarlowe
@MeatballsMarlowe 14 жыл бұрын
I just read War and Peace and I've got to strongly disagree with his statement about it being set in a "small little world." I think he needs to explain that a little better. I wonder if War and Peace were written today, would it pass McKee's standards for a good story.
@v-22
@v-22 12 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Quoting David Fincher, "Those who can't do teach. Those who can't teach, teach gym. Those who can't teach gym, teach film."
@rleneway
@rleneway 14 жыл бұрын
Kevin, This may help when thinking about Uncle Jessie. Dad
@Limited-Hangout
@Limited-Hangout 12 жыл бұрын
@brightlights456X Numbers dont lie.
@milesfurnell
@milesfurnell 13 жыл бұрын
Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach. Those that can't teach, teach gym. Woody Allen
@stacyrchambers
@stacyrchambers 14 жыл бұрын
He actually has written and sold a lot of screenplays, but none of them have been made into movies.
@brewer921
@brewer921 15 жыл бұрын
He has written numerous scripts that have never gotten made. Some he got paid for, some he didn't.
@Limited-Hangout
@Limited-Hangout 15 жыл бұрын
If we were to stretch that reasoning than we'd say only the greatest athletes can make great coaches. Red Aurbach and Phil Jackson are the greatest coaches in NBA history. Phil was a limited player while Red didn't even play. Does that make them unfit to instruct a team? Teaching is its own art. Many succesfull screenwriters probably couldnt teach or spread their wisdom for the life of them. Oh he also wrote STORY. Best seller. So obviously he can write about writing. That good enough for you?
@Limited-Hangout
@Limited-Hangout 12 жыл бұрын
Are you on drugs? I'm DEFENDING McKee against those who are trying to call him out. People who say "those who can't DO - teach". That's why I apparently have 18 thumbs up cause I defended the guy against ignorant clones. Some of which can't read apparently and invert meaning at will.
@ShelterDogs
@ShelterDogs 12 жыл бұрын
What is the success rate of aspiring screenwriters? It's a time-consuming hobby. Who has time for failure in this field? It is a must to succeed. So if it takes 20 years to get that $1 million dollar screenplay sold, so be it. Otherwise it is a waste of time if full effort isn't put into it.
@ShelterDogs
@ShelterDogs 12 жыл бұрын
Ejko, you're sarcasm doesn't fit here. People won't know you replied to them if you don't hit "Reply" under their comment. There's no way for them to be notified by email otherwise.
@Terrakinetic
@Terrakinetic 6 жыл бұрын
~Rick and Morty~ "Fuck your limitations"
@Limited-Hangout
@Limited-Hangout 12 жыл бұрын
Sarcasm doesnt fit here? Oh shit wheres the guidebook? Were they handing them out at the door?
@MeatballsMarlowe
@MeatballsMarlowe 14 жыл бұрын
around 4:09 i think he briefly lapses into senility.
@johndow5599
@johndow5599 9 жыл бұрын
Those who can, do; others teach.
@howardkoor2796
@howardkoor2796 9 жыл бұрын
So, are you saying that teachers are not needed?
@johndow5599
@johndow5599 9 жыл бұрын
Howard Koor No, I'm not saying this. How did you get from what I said to what you say?
@howardkoor2796
@howardkoor2796 9 жыл бұрын
Sorry. It seems that you are saying that teachers teach because they can't do.
@johndow5599
@johndow5599 9 жыл бұрын
Howard Koor It's an expression, a saying; look it up on the net. It's not about teachers, it's about who can and who can't. Leave me alone, will ya? LOL. It's not something one needs to discuss endlessly.
@runeknytling
@runeknytling 9 жыл бұрын
Those who can't do teach, and those who can't teach, teach gym.
@ShelterDogs
@ShelterDogs 12 жыл бұрын
Lame. And there is the difference between you and Woody Allen.
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