If the church have known this before and did nothing about it that is also a big problem in the church.

His son in law sounds like he's close to tears. Grace to them in this season. May we all call our leaders to righteous accountability

I so appreciate your sensitivity and understanding of how far reaching sexual abuse is!! I was abused by a youth leader and didn't tell my parents for 20 years. When I did, they chose not to say anything to protect his family! Also, I was married for 25 years before my eyes were opened to my husband's acts of abuse with our daughter and then later our granddaughter. He has never admitted any of it and he has had no consequences. My daughter then married a man that was an abuser. Our family is so dysfunctional and torn apart. I have, alone, tried to be there for everyone but now at 63, am unable to handle life myself. Sexual abuse of any kind changes your brain and therefore your decision making process. I am so thankful that through it all, God has drawn me (many times kicking and screaming) to Himself. I know God uses all for our good and His glory and this is what brings me comfort! Thanks again!

Wonderful, honest, spirit filled response from a son-in-law.

As someone who has been through a pastors abuse I am EXTREMELY touched by your sermon. You are right that being unable to talk about it is almost unbearable but Jesus never left me. Prayimg grandparents got me through. I never blamed Jesus church but the leaders that hid it. I am older now & have managed to leave the anger behind. I pray for your family & your church because attacks from the outside hurt but attacks from trusted people within can break faith. God bless & comfort you. Love & prayers to all of you.

If he's asked God for forgiveness then he's forgiveness and everyone else's opinion doesn't matter ...GOD forgave David for his sins .....who are we to judge this matter ...leave it to GOD !!!

It is devastating to the children, Son in law, and grandchildren. So sad and I pray that God will help them through this. We must realize that our actions effect others for generations!

This is a mature response from a loving son in law who loves Christ, loves his wife and family, loves his church, loves the truth and is committed to loving his father in law. I can feel the tension. Praying for you brother, for your church, your family and the wisdom to maneuver through this situation.

What about the victim's HEALING?????

This young man sounds far more sincere than the elders I’ve heard address this.

From experience, I know families are devastated by what the head of the family does in these cases. We should keep Robert Morris families in prayers. They are not responsible for his actions.

What a Beautiful man of God!! Father pls Kp Eathan and his family in the palm of ur hands. We see and hear the dissaponitment and sadness in his voice. LET GOD BE THE JUDGE TO WHAT PASTOR ROBERT DONE TO THIS YOUNG CHILD. GOD ALWAYS DO A BETTER JOB THAN US.

Thank you for addressing the fact that though God is a God of love and forgiveness, God IS a God of justice! Robert Morris has not truly repented; rather, he continues to deflect blame. However, "whatsoever a man sows, that he shall also reap!" My heart is so heavy for Cindy for the many years she suffered without support. Many of us who have been abused, have been victimized again by the church, who sides with the abuser; listens to and believes the narcissistic lies of the abuser. Jesus knows the truth! Luke 12: 2 reminds us that "there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, nor hidden that will not be known." For all the brokenhearted, Jesus has promised that He "will never leave us or forsake us." Keep clinging to the Lord through this horrific trial. Cindy is a living testimony of her faith in the Lord through this whole sordid time, bless her heart. Clinging to Jesus is what has helped me to heal from years of abuse. Isaiah 42:3 has always encouraged my heart. May this verse encourage many who are greatly suffering in these days: "A bruised reed He will not break. And a smoking flax He will not quench; He will bring forth justice for truth." Thank you for sharing your thoughts in the midst of your own heartache. May the Lord be the "lifter of your head," as Psalm 3 encourages us all!

Very sensitive presentation, dear brother. I love that you mentioned collateral damage, because that's huge in this situation and you did very well and presenting that. Thank you again and God bless you as you minister in this format.

This family knows more about RM than anyone. They knew his behavior, his wife knew as well

I hope they kept the grandchildren safe.

The Word of God says to forgive those who have done us wrong.. That applies to everyone..

This young man impressed me with truth and spirit. I wanted him to also be fired, thinking no healing would come for the church family members if there's still family in authority. But I'm wrong after listening to him.

This is the most sane, godly response I have seen to this catastrophe since it happened, both on the part of this channel & Ethan - I pray the Lord would continue to use both these men as beacons of His light during these dark days of pain & turmoil to guide, restore & bring healing to His holy name & those who are suffering as a result of Morris' ungodly actions.😢🙏💔✝️

This son in law gave a beautiful message that stayed focused on Jesus and the finished work of the Cross. Thats what we all need to do.

God is concerned about everyone who is connected to this. Both sides are in pain & traumatized. Now God in HIS INFINITE WISDOM will minister to each one concerned. Our job as the BODY OF CHRIST is to keep ALL IN PRAYER. I BELIEVE IN HIS HEALING POWER FOR EVERY BROKEN HEART & DAMAGED SOUL

Yes, focus on Jesus. Focus on the things that He said are right and wrong, BUT do not ignore something that is so obviously WRONG.

This situation is more about the victim than anyone else here. Her whole being and innocence, childhood, young adulthood, shattered, destroyed, twisted and total confusion then and every day since up to today and beyond. Utter annihilation of all she knew and believed in to be true, gone. Never to get even a shred of any normalcy, ever again. Even if healed, it remains in her memory, feelings and continued thoughts.

This pastor’s message should have been the one given from the Gateway mother church instead of the one the member from their board of directors gave last week. This pastor’s words and his humble and grieving demeanor came through as genuine; sincere. In addition, there is no statute of limitations in the State of Texas where some of the SA took place according to Cindy’s testimony. #JusticeForCindy #JusticeForAll 💜

It is my understanding that he apologized 30 yrs ago, and that the church knew about it. Yes, he did wrong, but aren't we called to forgive as Christ forgives us? I know how difficult forgiving is in this situation having been horribly abused and cheated on myself for many yrs. God's grace is greater than the pain of the abuses. What bothers me most is the way some of Robert's closest friends have totally turned on him for something he did and repented of 30 yrs ago. Thank God that He doesn't treat us this way. Yes, we should have love and care for the abused, but we also must love those who have acted as our enemies. I pray that Jesus will grant to all His grace, mercy, forgiveness, love, and faith.

Robert needs to be publicly apologizing not every one else. Your fault Robert, own it !!

This needs to be a lesson on forgiveness, grace, mercy, bring the body back to unity, not condemning and judging like we are God. I pray for everyone involved. And I know that I have committed sins in my past especially when I was young but I'm not proud of. But that's what the blood of Jesus is for for taking our sins and our iniquities and changing them from Scarlett to widest snow. And I think we is the body of Christ need to be like Jesus and bring forgiveness and restoration

This is damage Robert did and by not admitting to what he truly did is not repentance Robert did this! He should be held responsible The victim didn’t do this! She was the one sexually violated And no one is talking for about what a nightmare it’s been for Cindy! And what it’s done to her and her family no one, the elders, is talking about restoring healing to Cindy with accepting responsibility and asking for her forgiveness which she already has It’s like there’s Cindy over there and the “church over here focusing on themselves Yes they need it too but Cindy is the one Robert committed this horrible acts and crime against.

There's more about the Morris' that will come out. I feel sorry the Cindy and what happened...😢😢😢

Lord be with this family and the victims and the church ❤

I’m praying for you all. My heart hurts for all that have been affected by this. And the whole body of Christ that we would keep our eyes on Jesus. God is a good good Father.

There is healing for victims and Pastors alike. God is the Judge of all. Let God be the judge. But let healing begin now on both sides, because this is the will of God. I thank God for the revealing, healing and restoration on both sides.

Amen, what about forgiveness for Robert Morris, when he was a young man he sinned and we all have sinned Fallen short. If we are going to judge our brothers and sisters when the Lord says he has forgiveness us. You with out sin cast the first stone.

Thank you 4 this. May our precios Lord bring restoration 2 all involvded. ❤

When I heard this First thing ,I thought was Jesus words to the accusers of the woman caught in adultery, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Then I thought of king David, his sin of adultery with Bathsheba and his trying to cover over his sin, even to the death of her husband Uriah. Sin is sin and we need not brush it under a rug, I am not saying that. But God is a very merciful God and does forgive and restore what the locust has eaten, and we ALL need to remember that. And the other point is this, this is all from Satan to destroy the church, his family and to cause, at the least, great division, criticism and judgment. But each of us need to remember," For ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God", all of us! and failed the Lord and our families at times, some much worse than others. Jesus also told us, Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy. I am praying for mercy from his church family and that great glory and good, and healing to come for those believers and spiritual growth. God can and will bring beauty from ashes for those who place their hope and faith in Him.

The love of God is clearly demonstraded by this Godly man, Ethan. Jesus must remain the focus through it all......God is both a forgiving God, and Healer God.....As Christians we pray for those caught in the ripple effect of this sad story.....Lord, please do what only You can do! 🙏🙏❤❤❤🙏🙏

While this is devastating to the church and Morris’ loved ones, it’s an opportunity to draw near to Christ like never before. The love and caring within this church as they seek the Lord’s help and healing can bring about a church body who has weather a storm that threatened to take them down. God can do amazing things. Who knows what good can come out of this -- only God!

This is beautiful, and so needed at this hour, dear brother. It was moving to hear this son-in-law take a honest, vulnerable, and direct stance that was both personal and applicable to the body of Christ. Thank you, so much, for sharing this!

Sending love to you as a Christian I pray for a healing that only God can give to his daughter and Son-in-law And your children Of Robert Morris Sending a big Hug and prayers in Jesus Christ

I agree that what R M did is shocking and a real letdown. I'm also going to say, let us pray for healing. We put people on peddle stalls😢, let's stop it. In closing, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Psalms 94:19 Gal 6:1 Let us do the right thing ❤

If this church loves God more than Robert we will see in numbers

Could you imagine the heartache and the pain that the 12-year-old victim endured for four years? Churches need to stop protecting predators. He didn’t care about his present, past or future family nor the child he was hurting. He didn’t care about God either or the consequences of his sick actions. He only care about himself. He was a criminal and I hope charges are pressed against him.

I was molested by my pastor from ages 12-14. I appreciate what the church is saying to victims of this type of situation. I never received any counseling. Sadly, there were at least 6 we know of that this happened to. Many of the church members blamed us. Many never spoke to our families again. He actually went on to preach at another church. We felt like we were the wrong ones. The way this church is handling this is the right way to do it. If this has ever happened to you, please talk with someone and get the help you need. It has gone on to affect my life and my marriages. But this is true for any molestation - not just a pastor.

Proof that sin affects others as well as the one committing the sin...

Morris should have offered to pay ALL therapy costs for the victim instead of threatening her with jail in asking for money to cover therapy

Thank you for this message. My heart has been so heavy for the family. I can't even imagine how they gave each day. I will pray for everyone involved and for Robert

I’m praying for Cindy and God bless her for coming forward as I do understand how hard that is and it takes courage God be with her and I pray for healing for her and her family

Nightmare week for sure. But I will say what about the nightmare that Cindy lived for 35 years. Speak about that for a minute.

To me it is very obvious after seeing the emails from the victim to RM in 2005, he had ample opportunities to make things right and consider the heartbreak he caused the victim. But he didnt - mayb it was his pride and the fact he was in such a high position, he thought he was invincible. He probably didnt want it exposed even back then, as often abusers love the power to cover their sin. If the sin was exposed, he knew he had committed a crime and so often told his congregations about his immorality with a young lady, not a 12 yr old girl. That has been plain deception, living a lie to the world for all these years. Very very sad!!!!

❤such a beautiful sermon. My heart hurts for you all, but, i know God has this situation in His hands. You all will make it through this. This too shall pass. You are all loved and stay strong in God

This man committed a crime, not a moral failure. Worked so hard, just to be exposed. Take God at his word. James 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.

All the protection Robert had from the surrounding staff around him all these years proves Church is handled more like a business than a Church!… All the staff that knew things, even the IT guy for the Church that transferred a download of phone conversations should be looking at the part they played in all of this as well…. And money was the center…

Praise the Lord for you and Elaine and girls. Praying for all the family and church family and all the lives that were touched by RM in his ministries including on line ministry. I am praying for the elders also. God has grown the church and I’m so grateful that He is in control and pointing to Scripture is what Jesus would do. Jesus is the answer and following his Word no matter what. Right is right and wrong is wrong but be careful we don’t judge that is Jesus’ place. Sin is exposed and God can forgive, heal and restore. I am praying for all involved in this horrible nightmare as I am a mother of two daughters and nieces that were molested by step grandpa and have have dealt with this and the traumas for years I know all have sinned and we are not judge but to pray pray and keep praying. I also appreciate how you reminded all to guard our hearts God has forgiven us and we need to forgive and yet protect our children Gal 6:1 Psalm 91:19. 1 John 1:7. 1 Cor 15:58

I am not a Robert Morris fan, I have never liked his teachings. But the fact that this has been 35 years and there is no other victims. I think things have gotten way out of hand. I am not saying there shouldn’t be consequences. But how has this went on for so long. I read that the victim wanted 2 million dollars. I think I would have stepped out and admitted and ask for forgiveness before being blackmailed.

Protect your children, Pastor

practically ALL of this sermon was on how gateway church is feeling, NOT how the victim is feeling! SMH

Heartbreaking!!Prayers to both families and extended family and all Christians that are in the bodyGod is good but we will all be accountable for our sins!

NOTE: pastor Robert repented, he was sanctioned by the church for 2 years. I am sure he was humiliated by his peers and Debbie probably thought of divorcing him. He asked forgiveness from her and her family ( especially her father) and church leaders, ( his sin was exposed in the light). Now to all true believers in CHRIST and HIS word. Go study what HE says about the removing and forgiving of sin. Because what I am seeing is " you sin you out", your transgression will be kept against you for ever. THE WORD says you will know them by their fruit, this transgression happened more then 35years ago, Cindy allowed it for 5years, yes I say allowed, she wasn't forced, it was petting and kissing, she was in a loving family, she knew he was married, and she only came forward after she spoke to a friend ( did the friend maby tell her you tell or I will, because the friend knew that both were to blame). To come back to the fruit I have seen Pastor Robert's fruit, Cindy on the other hand, well money seems to be the driving force, revenge for the fact that Robert is prospering and she is suffering, unforgiving spirit ( he already apologized 30 years ago). And jealousy he chose his marriage and Debbie over her. Did she ever apologize to Debbie for the affair, cause 17 is not a child anymore. And why did her father and her not go to the police when the sin was exposed 35 years ago. This is not a righteous move or exposing of sin by GOD, this is revenge and an horrible work of darkness orchestrated by satan himself. If David's, Abraham's, Moses ect sins has been kept against them where would we be. Maybe Cindy should not have gone for the money, but for reconciliation, maybe if she had truly forgiving Robert when he repented. Sought GOD instead of revenge, the kingdom of GOD would not be suffering violence. Also maybe we should be talking about what it means to be forgiven, after you have truly repented because what is the use of repentance and forgiveness if your sins will be held against you.

Debbie his wife knew all along. She kept the secret with him. The blame for every layer of this is Robert and Debbie and the victim is CINDY!

Stop it, Robert needs to own it.

The ultimate victim is not Ethan Fischer, or his wife Elaine, or their children, or his church. The victim is Cindy Clemishire. Ethan ignores her. He cannot say her name. If he wants to help victims of abuse, start there.

Thank you for reminding everyone about Cindy’s suffering, her’s is way worse compared to mine. I too was CSA’d when I was 12-13 yrs old. Thank God I do not have to see my abusers face 24 -7 on TV, at church, in book stores, talk about a real nightmare. I can’t imagine having that narcissist in my mind like that for all these years. I am amazed at how well she’s handling it now, but again she’s be in therapy for years and years. Poor thing cannot escape his ongoing presence, maybe now she will, as he no longer has the power over her and hopefully soon the congregants supporting this man will see the light.

Great sermon Ethan!!!! God bless you and your family. Hang in there.

I’m praying for Cindy and this church-I just don’t know what to say. ❤

I came to the Lord asking for his blessingsas a single mom because raising my son (Joel) was an act of courage despite all the challenges. And the Lord answered my prayers with a benefiting income of $31,000 every month. To God be the glory. Joel is in school and life's been fair lately.

I (Linda) respectfully would like to say this happened 40 years ago. Since then, as far as I know he has not continued in this sin.. The American Church is soft. We have yet to learn what the forgiveness of God is. It is easy to sit in judgment on one and not the other. I understand this went on for 5 years. She said her parents knew about it. Obviously, they did not know about it until many years later. Why 40 years later? I am sorry, but the victim is not pure in this. At first, yes in the beginning, but now? If we didn't need a Savior, we wouldn't have one. If we didn't need a Redeemer, God wouldn't have given us one. If we didn't have a Deliverer we wouldn't have one. We live in a battleground. The Church is terrible at destroying their own wounded. This whole situation at the root is a grievance between 2 people. I question the intentions of the 50 plus year old victim. This should have been dealt with years ago. Jesus gave instructions in Matthew 18. There is a process. The Church is negligent in following the Word of God concerning these things. If God forgives, then who are we to not forgive? A mature person in the Lord will forgive and move on. People who leave the Lord because of what another does to them are spiritually immature and refuse to trust God. When we idolize men, they will fail us. When we worship God and keep our focus on the Lord, we will grow in grace and favor with the Lord. I trust that God will bring healing on all levels in this. Just as King David committed adultery with Uriah's wife, Bathsheba, who became pregnant with his child, and then David killed Uriah using the enemy to do it, God sent a prophet to confront him with his sin. David's immediate reaction was repentance. it is amazing that even under the Law of Moses, God did not remove David from his position and order him to be stoned. There were consequences that effected his family, but he remained King and is still honored as being in the Messianic Family Line. REPENTENCE IS NOT AN EMOTION, IT IS A CHANGE OF BEHAVIOUR. This has been seen over the years in Robert Morris's ministry. I am not saying he is perfect or pure, but neither is the other party. FORGIVENESS IS BIG WITH GOD. WE NEED TO GROW UP AND BECOME THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS HE HAS CALLED US TO BE. We must remember these people are part of the Family of God and pray for healing and wholeness for all involved. We must lift up the person who had this happen to her and her family, and the Morris family that these things can be remedied according to the wisdom of God and not the laws of man.

There is no sin that God did not forgive on the cross , both small and big . Robert Morris has repented before God, and I believe God has forgiven him. But the church will not . I know he has to face the consequences of his actions. But the church should be about restoration of the victim and offender . Let’s go to the word and see how the Bible handle it Forgiveness is the 🔑 as God has forgiven us . The same measure you give will be used against you. Again, let the lord comfort the victim and church, let’s not destroy each other , but know that we have an enemy. Lets tender grace , for by grace we are saved, not works . ❤️

Heartbreaking 💔 absolutely devastating. Poor family

This was really encouraging and so good Biblically speaking. Thank you.

If robert morris is of the lord he will remain if he is not then unless he repent he will not but as for me i know this pastor robert morris is one whom God has used for his glory so if i was you i would ask God what you think you should say about him. But dont say what God will not be pleased with i think robert morris made a huge mistake just like Adam and Eve when they sinned against God. Adam amd Eve though they may have received forgiveness they still payed the price. God is always up to something and remember that God is willing to guide pastore Robert Morris if he will repent. Let God be judge between me and you. Lastly remember David though he was a righteous God-fearing man he sinned against God in a way that was so bad yet when he repented God guided and restored him. Though you condem a man God wont, though you hate a man, God won't, though we sin agaisnt God hos love is forever and his forgiveness is greater than anything. So i will not worry about pastor Robert Morris if he is walking in repentance and truly serving God. In two years i would love to see how this matter is, and how God would bring about a good conclusion. May the God of good justice be merciful yet bring peace to both sides. Amen

The pastor recognized this situation, asked for forgiveness, was removed from ministry, faced the parents and at the time the girl. More than 40 YEARS have passed since this situation happened. This unfortunate situation came already to light and exposed a long time ago. And here is the question. WHY this thing is coming out once again? Is not this already confronted and resolved? Why this women is coming publicly NOW? Out there there's a spirit in these type of circumstances in which not letting go and destroying lives forever is the ultimate purpose. Including victims. A non reversible mindset where condemnation and shame will never go away. A whole movement drowned in hatred that is willing to go more than 50 years ago and bring to life with the ultimate purpose of performing assasination. Let's not rush into join the lines of virtue signaling where most people run to to gain morale standard for others to see. Instead, let's open our eyes and see what our Lord taught us. To see the intentions of the heart.

God is still with this man as he goes through his storm. I pray for the victims of this tragedy. Praise God, we serve an awesome God who is still the same yesterday today and forever, so let's trust God with the outcome. I pray that all who are involved keep their eyes on Jesus who is the author and finisher of their faith. Praying for all.

Were I Robert's daughter, Id be having a conversation with my kids about grandpa. Were I Robert's wife, Id be asking my daughter some questions too.

You can hear the pain in his voice continuosly

Why open the past wounds again there was forgiveness and repentance on both sides so Why are we judging and Crucifying Pastor Robert again I Pray Jesus turn this around for Pastor Robert and his family Friends and church I’ve seen Corrupt hitmen get saved and get forgiveness Have Mercy & Grace just think if this was you Jesus would forgive you to. 🙏🏼❤️ I want pastor Morris back and preaching. Cindy needs to allow God to heal her hart she doesn’t need to be a victim for 40 yrs Jesus does heal wounds like myself I had to stop licking my wounds and allow Jesus to heal me and forgive my brother

Thank you my brother. So beautiful and heartfelt encouragement.

Pride goes before the fall. This son in law gave a beautiful, sincere and humbling sermon.

Well you asked for comments so here's my thought :God bless Robert Morris and family. What just seems a little odd for me is that Cindy had years of therapy which she requested $25,000 and then later $50,000 to cover her therapy. And now 40 years later they're still is no healing or forgiveness on her part. But her final act was let me destroy the entire Morris family instead of letting God be the one who deals out justice. Do you know how many Christian people have been molested in their past but yet have gone on to become overcomers and productive members in the family of God because they forgave and trusted God to bring healing and justice? The amount is staggering...

Thank you.... Thank you....We all needed to hear these words and to pray for all concerned and to mostly keep focused on Jesus!

God bless this man and his wife and daughters. You could hear how painful this was for him. Now THIS is the example of a Godly man. 🙏❣️

Healing will come when @Robert Morris comes out of the closet, fully acknowledges his sin and compounding errors, seeks restoration of the victim first before himself, repents publicly, admits his guilt without some legal protective spin, and quietly steps back and forgets any idea of reentering church leadership. Robert Morris can best serve the ministry of Christ going forward by distributing his extreme wealth gained from ministry and give it to the poor and to abuse victims. Amen 🙏

WHAT A POWERFUL WORD OF TESTIMONY....of Christ's healing & restoration needing AND IS taking place in these two families...beginning with the Victim/her family AS well as the Abuser/his family. GOD'S MERCY BE OVER ALL...may we grant it as well as we so desire for God to have over each one of us--Amen.🙏

The Word is a Lamp unto our feet and this is well interoperated through this message..

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What I’m waiting to see is the church reaching out to pastor Robert and Debbie to acknowledge their redemption they worked through and embraced and believed in Jesus’s forgiveness. How could they have served feeling guilty or shameful? They believed in their forgiveness. They committed to serving the church. They’ve done this for decades. It’s like we are judging this act and refusing to be Christ’s love towards Robert and Debbie. Don’t you see that outwardly loving Robert and Debbie will not lessen their consequences?? I’ve not heard one supportive statement to them. This is not a reflection of Christ’s love. 😢

Sin pollutes everyone regardless of how long it’s hidden. God’s word is clear that we reap what we sow at sometime for the things we do. We repent and God forgives but we aren’t clear and free of all consequences. Especially when it’s grievous sins against the innocent and vulnerable. God’s Holiness and Righteousness will prevail in all things! Prayers for all suffering as result of this truth being exposed, we as believers need to offer grace and mercy because God’s justice is at work and throwing insults and our own judgements at the family who are also victims of his sin doesn’t help. Robert Morris and his wife have to deal with the consequences of this. I can ask myself the questions about why and how but regardless of how I think should’ve, could’ve and would’ve, we need to remember but for the grace of God there go I. 😢🙏

What about all the elders that covered it up? They need to repent. How can anyone trust this place?

This young man seems to have a humbleness and gentleness in The Lord.....genuine towards the people....

Jesus is still in the boat and the staff is still in his hand.

I have thought about Robert's children and grandchildren and now having heard this video, it brings it closer to my heart. I am so sad for them, embarrassed for them...for surely they are feeling all of this and much more. God bless them all.

Heart broken and praying for Cindy and her family and Bro Robert and his family. Began praying the moment I heard it and will continue.

Robert needs a big milestone!!

There is corruption in all people and churches. We can't be destroyed because a pastor or church morally fails because our faith is not in people or churches. Our faith is in Christ. We should move on and teach the Gospel to lost souls. We are sinners in need of a perfect savior. Be very careful not to worship people or churches, worship God alone! Beware of the money changers, there are many!

Robert Morris's sin is not having asked forgiveness to the person he hurt. I'm sure God prompted him to do so, but because it meant legal repercussions he did not do it. God forgave him and God has used him, but like David, I'm sure the guilt has been there. Joyce Meyers suffered abuse from her father for years. God told her to forgive and she was healed as I hope this woman will be also.

Life has choices. Choices have consequences. Make the right choice.

I’m a believer. Churches need their tithes. Tithers pay pastors wages. What has been exposed is terrible. Hidden. What about Cindy. Did Robert’s kids know about this?

What I don't understand is How could she aloud this behavior gone on and ond on for 4 years. Her father was a pastor for crying out loud. Didn't she know that was wrong? Couldn't she had told her mother. Father a friend? It seams. She was in love. But ultimately, HE is the guilty party on this he was the adult etc

Pray for sure. Think and pray for the lady who was sexually abused and definitely keep the grandchildren away from him. He will now begin to find out the horror he has unleased on himself and the family.

I just keep feeling that the Church, globally, needs to enter a season of repentance & that anyone & everyone in leadership at Gateway needs to be on their faces before the Lord asking for forgiveness & healing. It is sackcloth & ashes time! There is something systemic that allowed a wolf in sheep's clothing to dwell safely among the flock. Yes, joy comes in the morning following the grieving process.

You ended this video well, there are consequences to sin and we need to acknowledge what Cindy and so many hidden victims are suffering. The kingdom of God is based on God's love, forgiveness, justice, true repentance, redemption, restoration, reformation and restitution. God is still a God of love and forgiveness, but he is also a God of justice. This is what the Church continually forgets. Judgment starts in the house of the Lord. King David (as a spiritual leader of Israel representing God) loved God, he was a man after God's heart but he had consequences for his actions with Bathsheba and what he did unknown to Bathsheba. There were consequences to himself but also for his family because of his sin with Bathsheba (their baby died no matter how much David cried out, repented, ate no food, wailed, prayed, laid on the ground, etc.). An innocent child, his child experienced death for his sin. Then the deception he perpetuated against his faithful servant, Bathsheba's husband Uriah in having him murdered, killed in battle. The battle that King David should have been participating in with his army against the enemy. It was in the time when kings went out to war the scripture says. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time that temptation was birthed and acted upon resulting in sexual sin (adultery), then creating the deceptive plan to murder Bathsheba's husband Uriah in the war/battle; the battle that David as the king should have been at leading his army. God knew all that David did and didn't do. God sent Nathan the prophet to proclaim to David that because of the sins he committed that he would always have a sword in his house and the word of the Lord came to pass. The torment in his family was relentless. God was still the same God, but there are consequences. Lets also remember what his daughter Tamar suffered. She never received the restoration, restitution, justice she deserved from David her father after she was raped by a family member, her half brother Amnon. We can also learn lessons from the New Testament, Ananais and Sapphira. Lets really meditate and pray about what God is trying to speak to the Church again and again regarding sexual abuse by church leaders and other sins kept hidden. Jesus stood in the midst of 7 churches in the Book of Revelation 2-3. He warned the spiritual leaders in those churches of the sin that was happening . "...He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches..."