First time discovering your channel and I am so glad I did. As a Korean-American, I'm always seeking sources to help me understand my roots and identity better and people like you, intelligent westerners living in Korea, helps me tremendously in gaining and articulating perspectives on such matter. Congratulations on getting Robert Sapolsky on the channel as I'm sure your channel will have much more exposure through this episode. He was an amazing listener as well, a true gentleman. I have so many questions and would love to have a long form discussion one day, but one question I'd like to ask anyone living in Korea is this: If it's not too personal to ask, with the falling birthrates signaling a soon-to-come massive economic consequences, do you still see yourself raising your family in Korea? The crux of the question is I guess, do you have hope for the future of Korea? Other topics I would like to hear your opinions on are: -With the rise of K-culture, global markets are tuning in but that also means foreign values are being imposed on Korean society. To be marketable, a product must meet the demands of its consumers but will this have a transformative effect on Korean culture for better or worse? From this, we can talk about so many social issues like gender roles (As I'm sure you're an expert on this being a professor at a Women's University), beauty standards, and even dog meat. -Controversial issue, but where do you see Korean-Japanese relations going in the future? Will the scars of war ever heal or is picking at the scabs too useful for politicians to ever let go? (I understand this may be a loaded question) and what is a Westerner's perspective on this? As a British person, how do you think British-German relations progressed but in that same span of time, Korean-Japanese relations stagnated? -How did/does religion shape Korean culture and what are its ramifications on the current state of affairs in Korea? Korea is notoriously one of the most secular countries in the world while having one of the most fanatical Christian communities (another example that proves your point that Korea lives at the extreme). Does Korea suffer from a MEANING crisis? Where can and should Koreans derive purpose? I usually don't write such lengthy comments on podcasts but you struck me as someone who is highly curious and intelligent on matters relating to Korea so I felt compelled to indulge. Thank you if you read the comment. I shall go watch your episode with Professor Mark Peterson now as I'm sure that will be a treat.
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
Greetings from Seoul. Thank you for this deeply curious post. It's wonderful to have you in the conversation. And yes, Robert is an incredibly humble person, isn't he?! There's a lot to try and unpack here. I would perhaps start by pointing you to my weekly column in the Korea Times where I explore a lot of the topics you have asked about. A recent piece entitled "Korea is Antifragile", specifically. I have a great faith in the Korean people to overcome adversity and, as the country is safe, relatively drug-free, and provides excellent health care and education, will continue to raise them here in the country that they call home. I'm actually currently pondering writing a piece called "Re-Koreanization" about how members of the diaspora reconnect with their homeland and how, everything else aside, the rise of Hallyu and K-culture has given many people a renewed confidence in their identity... I will say for the questions on religion and Korea-Japanese relations, we explored these at length in a episode recorded this week with a gentleman called Anton Scholz. He first came to Korea in 1994, speaks flawless Korean, and has some incredible views on what is taking place in these two domains. I was struck by his bravery and courage in talking so openly about them actually because history, particularly vis-a-vis Japan is a topic that can get people in serious trouble here very quickly. The episode you mentioned with Peterson is a great one. Thank you for the interest. I'm not sure I've answered all your questions here over coffee this morning but am always happy to do so. Thank you for saying hello and please feel free to keep in touch.
@Neighborcarl24Ай бұрын
I lived in Korea for 12 years. I hate Korean-Americans who act smug like they know more about Korea when they have only visited a handful of times or never visited Korea. They Korea is a third-world developing country in most cases.
@dickdestroyeАй бұрын
Wanna know the reality kid? here's the red pill. I'm a pretty well off korean male at my late 20's. I had the honor of graduating from one of the best universities and the most competitive major (economics). I was educated bilingually, so I'm comfortable with both languages. My uncle is a professor in economics and since the country isn't big, he literally knows all the major universities economic professors in the country. My friends literally work on major gov institutions like bank of korea, ministry of finance. if they work privately they're CPA's or lawyers. I myself used to work in the finance dept of a telecom company and bailed out. you know what all these top of the line, best educated, most wealthy guys in this nation say in common? "we're f**ed. we can't fix the low birth rate with policy." PS: for the last question, this country is heaven on earth for large corporate mega-churches. they kina do have a large cultural impact in places (plenty of times, presidential election results depended on religion) my entire family line is Christian. (like up to my grandma's dad) the part I find amusing is, young 20- 30 protestant woman are considered red-flags in the dating market. Reason: They refuse to do things why men date in the first place
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
In communicating with each other before this conversation, Robert asked me to explain certain aspects of Korean culture to him. If you find yourself frustrated that we sometimes hear more about Korea than his own work, I completely agree with you and apologize. Nevertheless, that was part of what was established. Please go and explore the rest of his work and read his books. It's fascinating stuff. My favourite lecture he has given is included in the description notes.
@Bart-rp5kf6 ай бұрын
I was born in 92 but I have one similarity with Robert Sapolsky, I also discovered that there is no free will when I was young, it really changes everything and eliminates ego
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
Can I ask how/why you came to your realization? I've recently discovered, for example, the work of Bernardo Kastro and he also doesn't believe in free will but does so, as far as I understand, for very different reasons to Robert...
@dickdestroyeАй бұрын
@@DavidTizzard I don't know if you'll ever read this, but I realized this when I found out a medication (psyh med) I was taking made me do things that I did not want to do, but kept impulsively doing. a small blue pill made my impulse control to zero, while I thought I had free will and control.
@Lawrence_of_Asia19 күн бұрын
Looking forward to this Talk!
@DavidTizzard17 күн бұрын
@@Lawrence_of_Asia Thank you for taking the time to say so
@burtonsschool95326 ай бұрын
I watched Mark Manson's video on South Korea's depression. He mentioned that things are "all or nothing." I noted that I struggle to articulate how my school's curriculum project is a forever project. Then listening to Robert and you talk about how happyiness is in pursuit. I am also surprised to hear that you don't have a voice inside your head. I like following your podcast because there are some common threads. Thank you for the great work.
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
"It's not the pursuit of happiness, it's the happiness of the pursuit" - fantastic line. And something I find to be very true. In terms of forever projects, another amazing line I read recently: Geniuses invent their predecessors. It's a beautiful thing to try and create amazing people. To do for others, rather than ourselves. Thank you always for the support for the content. It means a lot.
@raenakim-geyer6 ай бұрын
I’m so looking forward to listening to this! Thank you Professor!!
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
Thank YOU. The support, the comments, and the positive vibes are a beautiful thing.
@elemental95786 ай бұрын
I have not yet read his intriguing book, so my reaction is only to what he says in this fascinating discussion. As sympathetic as Mr. Sapolsky seems to be, I find myself instinctively repelled by the idea that we have no free will. He's putting a moral cloak on a biological theory that bodes the end of the world, not the beginning of a better one. I agree with him that what we are is at first biologically and genetically determined, then to some extent socially determined, and that our very existence is a marvelous accident, a confluence of natural circumstances. But at a certain point, we take the reins away from this undeniable biological history and begin to determine for ourselves just what it is that we will turn out to be. After a childhood with few but varied influences, I have, through trial and error, become the person I chose to become. The longer I live, the more I revel in this autonomy. Who I was when I was born, is one thing. Who I am now, is largely the result of free will. Along the way, I have accepted certain limitations and influences and rejected others, but in the end I am the author of myself. That free will can be compromised by certain neurological activities does not diminish the fact that it can function independently of neurological strictures.
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
I understand the scepticism, and I won't try to change your mind. All I would say is to either read his book or look at his lecture that I linked in the description notes to see that rather than suggest the end of the world, it is in fact pointing towards a more humane way of life for us all (not just those born lucky). I appreciate your comment and thoughts on the topic, however.
@elemental95786 ай бұрын
@@DavidTizzard Thanks for your reply and pardon me if I seem curmudgeonly. I watched the lecture you recommended which didn't provide anything I didn't already know about how the brain works, just a few newer studies. I switched to a different video (there are many with him on KZfaq) in which he says that we will become more humane if we stop judging others for actions that the amygdala made them do. But I don't see how our society benefits from giving up the notion of free will: If we really accept the notion that there is no free will, then we will simply become passive and fatalistic, accepting that every little impulse is a firing in the brain, and that we might as well stop making any decisions. I am also shocked how he trivializes thinking itself. Thinking is one of the greatest tools of free will. But Sapolsky gives it no credit. He talks of one study after another that equates the brain with the Twinkie Defense (a case in which someone blamed his crime on having eaten too many Twinkies)--i.e. hormones, sugar, or neurotransmitters made someone do something. That is true up to a point. But his theory implies that no one is thinking, they're just acting. That's a sad assessment of human beings at a time when we should be searching our highly developed minds for new solutions. We are thankfully so much more complicated than he would have us believe.
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
@@elemental9578 No apologies are necessary. I genuinely appreciate you being part of the conversation because it sounds like you have a lot of knowledge and a lot of thoughts to share. Do you have any recommendations for books, lectures, or other content of people laying out a perspective of humans that is more aligned with your own views, please? Just trying to take in as many perspectives as possible. (I'm generally a very positive person, tbh haha)
@elemental95786 ай бұрын
@@DavidTizzard I've answered this three times and my answer keeps disappearing. Any suggestions how I can retrieve it? I like your idea of recommending others on the subject.
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
@@elemental9578 I'm not sure how or why your comments keep disappearing. I don't see any on my end, unfortunately. I'm just responding to the ones I can see...
@clivejungle699924 күн бұрын
I am married and live in Korea. The survival of agrarian customs in what is a modern first world country puts so much pressure on both men and women. Men lose their early 20s in the army and then have to save up for a house for marriage because living together first and saving up as a partnership is a big no no. Women have to fulfill cultural rites and basically serve their husband's family while ignoring their own. Marrying foreigners or leaving the country was the original way of getting out of that. Now, this newly highly educated and financially independent generation are just opting out of their parents and grandparents out of date cultural norms. That and then businesses makes workers work until very night and there is no work life balance at all.
@DavidTizzard22 күн бұрын
Thank you for joining the conversation and sharing your own experiences. Definitely lots of changes here, though I'm perhaps a little more positive about the future. I'm probably going to write my column this week on rice so it's interesting to consider what role, if any, it still plays in modern life and culture.
@clivejungle699922 күн бұрын
@@DavidTizzard Thank you, I look forward to reading it!
@PClanner6 ай бұрын
To my way of thinking, Robert's work is a process that has be be subjected to reality, which means that it must clash with different cultures and ideas, so I welcome this type of dialogue. Thank you for posting this.
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
Thank you for being part of the conversation. All a learning process for us all.
@elisabeth736 ай бұрын
Oh this came in my feed. Robert Sapolsky is someone I greatly admire and Korea is such an intresting booming country.
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
It's a wonderful combination, isn't it?!
@elisabeth736 ай бұрын
@@DavidTizzard Indeed!
@bretta70573 ай бұрын
Haha! I just commented on the Kastrup interview, about how I didn’t understand the Korean connection, but loved hearing another interview with one of my intellectual heroes…and now here’s another one with another one of my intellectual heroes who has no clear Korea connection😂 Assuming the answer here is the same as you told me for Bernardo: you just wanted to talk to Sapolsky, but I greatly admire that, and seems to be testament to the quality of your content, that you can get random brilliant minds that have little to nothing to do with deconstructing Korea on your show😂❤️
@DavidTizzard3 ай бұрын
So very kind of you to say. And, again, I think all credit goes to these beautiful minds for having the kindness and generosity to speak with me. Despite their obvious brilliance, they are both so very humble and real when communicating with me. That alone has reminded me that whoever we are in society, we can at least be kind and generous to those around us. And thank YOU for the support in watching and commenting on these videos. It is nice to have you in the conversation. I might suggest the one with Anton Scholz next. There is a lot of great value in that man's mind, too.
@user-gc2wt3dx7q6 ай бұрын
I love the idea of 'positive' gaslighting.
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
I think you're the first person to pick-up on that idea of mine. Thank you!!
@richardnunziata32216 ай бұрын
I would like to know what Dr. Sapolsky would recommend in place of justice and morality if the believe in no freewill became institutionalized . Would there only be judgment , intervention and statistical projection. Would ideas like damages for suffering and compensation change and in what way.
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
I think these are very real and pertinent questions. Having read his book, particularly the second half which deals with these issues, I did not come away thinking we would be less humane or suffer as a species in terms of morality. Instead, it was the opposite. I cannot convince you here, only encourage you to read it for yourself and come to your own conclusions.
@rajalwa5 ай бұрын
wonderful conversation
@DavidTizzard5 ай бұрын
Thank you for listening
@richardnunziata32216 ай бұрын
AI's will eventually figure out what Dr Sapolsky knows that there is not free will . They will become the arbitrators of morality and controlling the consequences human activities including breading. What will this mean for AI alignment .
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
Interesting idea but I'm not sure Sapolsky would head down that route as he seems more focused on the biology of human life...
@yanapostolides6016 ай бұрын
I find Sapolski's ideas of "Free Will" to be shallow and lacking in any evidence and reason. There are practical reasons for keeping the concept even if you could prove it does not exist and you can't prove it doesn't exist in any form or fashion. He admits at age 14 he decided there was no free will. Also, you seem to be certain you can see inside the mind of AI.
@richardnunziata32216 ай бұрын
Hum,..in the past oh about 50 years ago you could leave your door unlocked in my old neighborhood and expect no one to enter your home but today I say no....so there are other moral ideals such as moral attachment places which can change very rapidly in a dynamic culture.
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
Completely agree about morals changing very quickly. It's one of the things that interests me most: why do we think and feel on certain topics so differently from those who came before us? And, by extension, how will those who come after us think and feel differently...?
@richardnunziata32216 ай бұрын
How can you call cryogenics or longevity research crackpot when you state there is no free will and morality is just what works in the moment. Beside the fact that the research and its benefits are and will be open to all. Is it not true that the a major directive of animals/evolution is survival into some future state.
@brainmoleculemarketing8016 ай бұрын
Korean arts and culture is amazing - brilliant storytelling in film, music. Very successful business people. A youtube host who actually read the book!? "All we are is history." That's it in a nutshell.
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
Loved the book! Have you read it? And yes, completely agree about Korean art and culture more broadly. Incredibly creative and fantastic at what they do.
@brainmoleculemarketing8016 ай бұрын
Yes, I study daily to keep up with advances in biology, genomics, neurology. The book is a bit of a screed, but a decent primer to the real causes of behavior - in all species. It is behind on some of the best genomics and neurology, economics of status, etc. My guess is it could have been cut into two books with the 1st actually detailing how the molecular, microscopic and millisecond genomics causes behavior. Then a book 2 on the social justice argument. But... To me, Korean art is advancing while USA is dead. Also, love S-speare and that work is only respected in Asia anymore.@@DavidTizzard
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
@@brainmoleculemarketing801 Agree that the book could have been divided into two. Though I think Sapolsky would agree with you on that as he makes the same point himself. Do you mind if I ask if there's any particular Korean art that you are enjoying or interested in these days? I read Cheon Myeong-kwan's book "Whale" late last year. Musically, I'm enjoying Oh Chill. And following the passing of Lee Sun-kyun watched the drama My Mister. All great stuff.
@brainmoleculemarketing8016 ай бұрын
@@DavidTizzard my interest is storytelling and am mainly impressed with films and TV. The action genre is very successful, to me.i will have to explore the books. Back to RS, moral arguments are hard to make without deep knowledge of how nature, eg genomics,etc, determines it all. Otherwise, we're just swapping semantic and pop tropes. Not sure that addresses any real problems but....everyone is on autopilot anyway.
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
@@brainmoleculemarketing801 I'm a complete beginner when it comes to geonomics, so this is all very much a learning process for me. Currently also trying to get my head around Integrated Information Theory at the same time and breaking my mind haha
@amusicment48296 ай бұрын
Super interesting, thank you
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
Thank YOU. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment.
@user-pz2lt7ox1r6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
thank YOU for joining the conversation
@stevelawrie91154 ай бұрын
It is sad that people want to punish without any consideration. A classic indication of this is, is the collective treatment of aboriginal people in Australia.
@DavidTizzard4 ай бұрын
Grew up in Endeavour Hills and spent time in Logan Valley. I have a lot of affection for Australia. No fear. No envy. No meanness
@IgnoredJoel5 ай бұрын
About the 23 and me, my mother is korean and my father is swiss. And as expected i'm ~50% european, but on thae asian side i'm 15% korean and 25% mongol (my mother is from Jeolla) the other 10% is a mix of chinese and kazak, ouzbek and so on.
@DavidTizzard5 ай бұрын
Wow - that's fascinating. Thank you so much for sharing. The genetics alone hint at such a story!
@rockugotcha6 ай бұрын
I have a similar experience of that grotesque bone crushing ceremony. I don't think it's an old tradition. The cremation culture comes from Japanese Buddhism as far as I know, and the rest of weird bits come from Capitalism that offers everything even when we need both meaningful drama and decent identity. I doubt that Japanese Buddhists watch bones of their family crushed by a dude who is a total stranger with white gloves, like it's a magic show. He seemed really good at his job by the way. I guess there must be a businessman who started the bone crushing show first time back then. He must think like "People don't trust fancy funeral service so they want to see if they really get ash of their family or a bowl of flour" And it prevailed through the country like a self cook culture in restaurant did. KZfaq algorithm did its job. Robert Sapolsky is one my go-to-source intellectual and I'm obviously a Korean. It was a great conversation. Thank you thank you.
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
Thank you for providing some insight into the funereal culture. It was certainly a very surreal experience for me and what you say about the origins seem very plausible. I wonder whether you have any thoughts on the 'rice theory of culture': that Korea is the way it is in terms of collectivism and 우리 culture not because of Confucianism or Buddhism but more likely because of intensive cooperative farming that took place on the peninsula?
@rockugotcha6 ай бұрын
@@DavidTizzard I’m not an expert nor an intellectual who can give a fine demonstration. This is just my baseless opinion. The rice theory, I’ve heard about it and it seems pretty plausible. Korea, with all its rice agriculture, is known to be a tough place. It’s warmer than the UK but colder than Vietnam, and like you said in the video, it’s quite mountainous. So, it makes sense that a strong sense of community would’ve been needed in Korea’s farming communities for a long time. But back in the day, media wasn’t as everywhere and controlling as it is now, so people were probably more influenced by their surroundings, like climate and geography, compared to how much media influences us today. So, it seems like a big jump to say that the problems in modern Korean society come from these old historical conditions or ideologies. I think there are two major events that have strongly impacted modern Korean society. First off, it's the war, which has kind of boxed Koreans into this simple binary of South (good/us) and North (bad/them). Check out the movies 말죽거리 잔혹사 and 밀수. You can see how schools under the military dictatorship stifled students and shaped their thinking in the first one. And the second movie might look like a plain cheesy girl boss action flick on the surface, but it actually flips its original theme on its head and assigns women only the role of a good South Korean wife. Even popular movie like this, which doesn’t seem to have anything to do with the war between the North and South, is still bound by the limits set by the war, stopping their imagination from going beyond the sea. The second big event is obviously the Asian financial crisis, aka IMF emergency, which turned Koreans into neoliberal survivalists once and for all. Sociologist 김홍중 once explained how the passionate democratic energy of the so-called 86 generation ended up driving the ruthless neoliberalization of the country by the crisis. Lastly, Speaking of Confucianism, I think it’s a strawman. For those folks who just pass by (like Mark Manson) and say ‘Confucianism is the problem,’ it actually reveals their Orientalist views. And for Koreans who say the same thing, it suggests that what’s really at play is a fetishized form of authoritarianism deeply rooted in our society.
@othersheep54916 ай бұрын
Uri Nara ! What a fascinating under dog story !
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
Absolutely. It's easy to dismiss Korea and its pop music and dramas until you realize just what they have had to overcome to get here. I have so much respect for the people of this country.
@othersheep54916 ай бұрын
K-pop! “Smooth like Butter” surely a song about my mi guk accent in Korean, as my mouth sounds as if it’s full of it when speaking! Mormons sent me in my teens for 2 years. I returned rather Buddhist, and a bit of a rice snob. I loved the culture, and history, and everyone took amazing care of me. That sentiment of ‘uri’ has stuck with me my whole life, as did a lot of sagobangshik. Thank you both. I’m looking forward to some good reading
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
@@othersheep5491 What a marvelous story. Thank you so very much for sharing. When were you here? Love how much you seemed to have embraced of the people and culture: from the music, the religions, the language, and - of course - the food!
@passwordprotectedd3 ай бұрын
great video
@DavidTizzard3 ай бұрын
Thank you~
@mitchkahle3146 ай бұрын
It's sad to think of all the damage Christianity has done and is still doing to South Korea.
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
Christianity was once super progressive and subversive here, tbh. It broke with centuries of traditional Confucian tradition by doing the unthinkable thing of educating women and treating everyone the same, ultimately helping to eradicate slavery here. Now, it's seen as super conservative. But it's not Christianity that has changed: it's Korea.
@nathankeller47646 ай бұрын
I believe you have much company amock people, no it is fine having no internal conversation going on. Chomsky is certain we think in silence, and the language is a serious game we all play together. Not to worry. Except of course you know we listen to every word we want to say in our heads before we say it. That much we have confirmation of. That is like a hallucination, because you have not said it yet. But add Sapolsky into the equation and he would say you likely are pretty committed to the sentences there...
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the insight. Chomsky's Language and Mind is actually on my list of books to read this year. Interestingly, I can write in my head and often compose my weekly column internally while driving before later putting down on the computer. This feels more like an active experience than an internal voice talking to me however...
@PabluchoViision6 ай бұрын
4:25 The elderly lady’s use of “our children” to refer to someone else’s children she sees in a park has ZERO to do with Sapir-Whorf. It’s not as if the Korean language lacked the possessive pronoun “your.” Rather, that “our“ is a sociolinguistic choice that reflects deep cultural attitudes (and I agree it’s a beautiful gesture of friendliness, empathy and social solidarity). But it’s not something that the Korean language itself, in a Sapir-Whorfian way, forces on you or steers you towards.
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the perspective. I've often considered the following example. Imagine two societies of 50 million people each. And they will run for 250 years. In society A, people generally refer to each other in terms of individual pronouns (I, me, mine, you, yours etc) while in society B, people regularly omit such pronouns and make things context based while also often favouring the pronoun our when talking about the country, the school, the family relations and so on. After 250 years, would there be a difference in how those people understand themselves and their relationship to the people around them? I'm inclined to say that while it won't be the only factor and won't apply to every person in every situation, it's going to have some affect, conscious or otherwise, on one's identity in relation to others. Just a thought though, of course... :D
@raenakim-geyer6 ай бұрын
We speak like Yoda. 😂Sentence structure.
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
Get better, we must. lol
@AstridJulian6 ай бұрын
So do Germans. I wonder if this accounts for some of the affinities between cultures that my German engineering/business contacts tell me about? I am also fascinated by how Koreans play the German version of Dodgeball which is all about getting people back into the game instead of the hypercompettive American version which is all about sending the maladroit kids to the bench to watch. Thank you for this interesting discussion.
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
@@AstridJulian That's a very interesting idea because I've no real clue how Koreans play dodgeball haha. I'm speaking today on the podcast to a rather famous/outspoken German, Anton Scholz, about Korea and his time here. I'll ask him about any possibly affinities.
@djedd2323 күн бұрын
Your point about the 23andme tests doesn't really make sense because the vast majority of Koreans who actually do end up taking 23andme tests get 100% Korean in their results.
@middy77413 күн бұрын
Holy $hit why is the music so loud when you guys are getting started? Totally unnecessary.
@DavidTizzard13 күн бұрын
Weird, isn't it? I just get carried away sometimes and go with my instincts (despite how wrong they might appear to others).
@middy77413 күн бұрын
@@DavidTizzard fair enough! Haha
@nyroysa3 ай бұрын
유 와아아아아아앗???????
@Stacee-jx1yz5 ай бұрын
So determinists can't tell the difference between: 1. zero and nonzero 2. not-natural and natural 3. locally real and not locally real 4. no spatial extension and spatial extension It's hard to take determinism seriously. Seems like Sapolsky skipped learning the difference between 0 and 1.
@kevtron825 ай бұрын
Loving the academic culture episodes~ One thing I wonder though is about the whole leaving your phone in a coffee shop thing. Sure, some of it may be that ‘your pain is my pain’, but let’s not forget that Korea has CCTV bloody everywhere. Korea does seem a safe country, which is true for most petty crimes like theft or muggings, but there are high numbers of white collar frauds or things like phone phishing. Not everything boils down to the 우리ness of the Korean people.
@DavidTizzard5 ай бұрын
Yeah, you are right. It's not all 우리 and there is a lot of CCTV. There is also crime here, especially voice phising and so on. However, there's a general acceptance that you don't touch/take others' stuff. Convenience stores can be unmanned and they won't be looted, products are left outside and untouched. When we arrived in France a couple of weeks ago, as soon as the plane touched down, I got a message on my phone (from SKT) telling me to be careful of pickpockets haha. I thought that was a bit much tbh. Just trying to play out these different realities that people wouldn't otherwise think about or discuss. If the language and framing is wrong, that's why comments and opinions help. :D
@kevtron825 ай бұрын
우리ness is definitely a part of it. But I’ve seen those 무인점s stolen from, and then outside there is a picture (because of course they have CCTV as well) of the thief publicly shaming them and telling them go come back and pay or they’ll call the police :P So they go together hand in hand in some cases as well.
@adcaptandumvulgus42526 ай бұрын
Korea is the New Japan I guess
@DavidTizzard5 ай бұрын
Korea is the new Korea but, yes, it shares much of the same modern trajectory as Japan.
@DroolRockworm6 ай бұрын
the fuck is that music playing in the beginning? thought it was coming from another tab
@DavidTizzard6 ай бұрын
I'm glad it confused you. It's just my acoustic guitar and a synth. It was meant to sound somewhat disorienting haha
@calidreams53796 ай бұрын
Sapolsky believes that one is born with criminal tendencies and that it is biologically determined. It’s probably true that one’s innate traits such as tendency towards anger and rage, empathy and compassion, selfishness, patience or impatience, etc. does obviously affect one’s behavior. However, what sets humans apart from other animals is that we do not live by our instincts alone. We have the capacity to think, we have the capacity to learn, we have the capacity to evolve and change. Social conditioning and environment has a huge impact on one’s behavior. I whole heartedly agree that it is easier for a person born without innate tendencies for selfishness or violence to be more likely to not commit crimes. But then, there are those who were simply taught these behaviors by the environment they grew up in. In the USA there are parents who literally teach their children to shop lift and steal, those children never had a chance regardless of their biology. Society shape’s human behavior as well. We teach STEM in our schools without ever teaching how to behave with basic civility. Look at the disaster in our schools, students disrespecting teachers in a manner unimaginable decades ago. Korea is not without disrespectful students, crime or corruption, it exists everywhere but the tolerance level I believe is lower. I have seen numerous videos of foreigners amazed that they accidentally left a phone or backpack somewhere in Korea only to find it there hours later. I don’t believe that certain countries with higher crimes have higher numbers of people with innate biological tendencies towards crime and violence. I believe that environment, culture and society as a whole can determine the behaviors of humans regardless of their inborn biological traits. Teachers used to be highly honored and respected in Korean society, it is slowly eroding with the wealthy and corrupt basically abandoning Confucius values and enabling spoiled children. The DNA is not changing, it’s society, culture and values that is changing.
@andrew3485 ай бұрын
Your first sentence is already false why bother reading the rest?
@stacyliddell5038Ай бұрын
I have Korean mates who took DNA tests and they were 100% Korean. 😂
@DavidTizzardАй бұрын
Pure descendants of Tangun Grandfather, no doubt ^^
@stacyliddell5038Ай бұрын
@@DavidTizzardaccording to the DNA company they used, it's likely to be an issue with their database not having enough DNA from the Asian population to make accurate estimations about their true ancestry. So hopefully in the future things will be more accurate.
@DavidTizzardАй бұрын
@@stacyliddell5038 That does make sense, yes. Thanks for sharing the stories. ^^
@djedd2323 күн бұрын
@@stacyliddell5038 No it's not. 23andme is one of the best DNA testing firms and the vast majority of Koreans get 100% Korean in their results. It's do with the resolution of the tests. Their resolution is such that they only show ancestry back to like 4 or 500 years ago. It's not going to tell you about ancient ancestry (for the most part). In fact it was the opposite, as they added more Koreans to the database and fine-tuned the algorithms, there were MORE Koreans getting 100% Korean and less showing some Japanese or Manchu or whatever. Koreans as a population ARE actually rather genetically homogenous, and mixing has been minimal as compared to other nations. Yes, of course all people are related, and even Koreans tested occasionally show admixture with something other group, but often like 1% or less.