Techne: "No rattling, no creaking" Mouse: *creaks*

Roccat prioritizes flashy colors and gimmicks. Endgame Gear focused on updating the sensor, improving side buttons, and keeping the weight down. It's easy to tell which wireless mouse I preordered.

Technically, 80 grams is not heavy, but relative to today's gaming mice market, it is. Roccat has also marketed this as "extreme lightweight", which is objectively incorrect at this point. Roccat has even posted an article on their own website about lightweight gaming mice and what they consider to be "lightweight." In it, they write that they would consider "lightweight" to be anything under 80 grams, which this mouse is not, much less so "extreme lightweight." The Kone Pro Air is a bigger mouse than this and it is also lighter, so Roccat definitely has the ability to make this mouse lightweight. I have a Burst Pro and I think it is a fantastic mouse, but adding on 10-12 grams for a wireless mouse with as much attention to RGB is a miss for me and I'm sure many others. The Burst Pro's biggest competitor, the XM1r, is getting a wireless version that EGG has managed to reduce the weight on it by the same amount that Roccat added, so it's a shame that Roccat missed the mark on this release. I would have easily purchased this over the XM2w if Roccat had even kept the weight the same as the wired (give or take a couple grams, like the Pulsefire Haste Wireless). The difference between a ~65g mouse and an 80g is not insignificant; it has nothing to do with strength but rather ease of use and fluidity of motion and effort required.

I feel like you strawman a lot when it comes to people who were disappointed with the weight. I don't have a problem with 80 gram mice, I like using the Fantech XD3V2, g303 SE, and even the Deathadder cuz it's comfy, it's just I'm a big fan of the burst pro shape and wanted it to remain around the same weight if only 5 grams heavier since it's wireless. I then look at the competition like the XM2w being lighter than the XM1 (I'm curious to see if there was build quality sacrifice) and then the XD3V2 that offers similar specs at almost half the price at the same weight. Adding more than 10 grams to it seemed unnecessary. Anyway, I do always love watching your vids. Keep up the great work!

The shape is amazing, but for the weight its less that 80g is *heavy* its more of just like why when the competition is able to go wireless AND make it lighter.

That box toss was epic, Techne!

70g to 80g is ideal for me. I currently use Xm1 rgb but will give this one a shot. Waiting for an xm2 rgb wireless tbh.

I don’t know how this is even a remotely competitive product. Glorious has the RGB, good sensors, nice shape and competitive pricing and it’s also lighter. You act like weight isn’t an issue with it but will then say I prefer the weight. So which is it? The weight doesn’t provide an issue and is consequently not important or it is a salient point worth mentioning?

Signed up for that cube, that'd be fun decor on the desk. If it displays time in a playful way that'd be super cool.

Got mine today, been waiting for this since I tried the wired when it came out. Super solid

LETS GO!! Try every gaming mouse that comes out this year! That’s a neat cube by the way. I would be interested in content for tech that we can add to our gaming setups.

Already got mine preordered from the site. As soon as it was available for preorder I didn't give it a second thought. Loved the Kone, and i feel like this is gonna be the mouse for me. Plus you cant be a true gamer without all the RGB. XD Thanks for another awesome vid Techne.

I got the wired burst pro based on your recommendation and it is one of my favorite mice of all time. I'll have to check this one out too. Is the coating the same?

Of course, a mouse is always a very subjective matter for the user, but I think 80 grams is a sweet spot for me. I think it's "healthy" for a mouse to have a bit of weight, to help with Control. But still so that it is not too heavy. I use a Cordura Gaming Mousepad, which is a speed glide mat, with such a fast mat my experience is that 80g is perfect. The ideal weight of the mouse is directly related to the game played, but the mouse pad is a big factor in the matter. Of course, it can also be the case that those who use the Control mat feel that a mouse weighing less than 80 grams is better. So it is understandable, when you take into account the factors, that the opinion varies.

No creaking? Literally as you said “no creaking” there was indeed a creak. Not that I care I just found that funny

Looks great but I wish it was lighter. I’ve used a really heavy mouse weighing 120 grams and my new mouse weighs 60 and I’m sure 80 isn’t terrible I would prefer lighter

So glad to receive what good portion of us gamers wanted for a long time 80grams great build and clicks with good sensor. The question I’m interested in is if you will be maining it from now on?

If roccat make this mouse 65-70 gram and put pixart 3395 sensor, it will the best mouse ever.

Ooooooo I'm so excited for that white one Just placed order through your link! Ty for covering the topic

The 100hour battery is only true with Bluetooth right? Do you know how long it lasts in 2,4ghz mode?

I love how he calls roccat rocket

The wowcube. Was unexpectedly funny to see in a mouse review video

I really like the rgb on those it's not as in your face on these as some of the other company's mice. Roccat seems to make such solid stuff.

I love the shape of the wired one, but the lift off distance or something to do with the sensor always felt weird to me I could never get used to it. Hoping that maybe the added weight might help stabilise it for me.

This is what we like to see! Going to be snagging one

One of the few mice I didn’t preorder it looked underwhelming to me. Furthermore I’m hating my kone pro airs scrollwheel it keeps activating backwards when I roll forwards and other way around.

Can you turn off the RGB?

I would definitely buy this if it was lighter. Might buy it and do a weight reduction mod.

People have to remember, the three biggest competitors to this mouse are made by Endgame, Zowie, and Vaxee. They are going to have to do the most to get this mouse under 70 grams and compete with those brands. Think about how hard it is to move on from the NP-01, for instance. The gold standard for build quality. Its hard to use a lesser quality mouse.

Personally I prefer lighter mice for competitive shooters but when the game I am playing is less flicky and more tracking based I like to pull out a heavier mouse as I can be more precise I play a lot apex fortnite and valorant though so I don't need tracking as much so I use a lighter mouse to flick easier this mouse would be my perfect sweet spot between light and a heavy mouse

i love those clicks

No creaking **literally hear the mouse creak**

Totally agree, I don't like super light mice. I want the burst air pro!

How do the clicks compare to the Kone pro Air switches and the wired burst pro clicks (coming from maining the RVU)

Huge miss putting an old sensor in a new "pro" model mouse.

Would be cool if instead of just adding more rgb to the front, they would replace the rgb on the body and moved it to the triggers. Kinda like the kone pro. Because the rgb on the triggers is kind of something unique to roccat and the rgb on the burst pro wired already looked a bit stupid anyways

I have a question man @The Techne , how does the coating feel compared to the Kone Pro Air ? Is it the same ?

It's weird that the Kone Pro / Wireless is lighter while being bigger in size. As if Roccat made the Burst heavier intentionally so that they can ask for a price premium for the Kone Pro.

I’d love to use these new Roccat mice if they were to just use regular mechanical switches. I can’t stand optical switches. Can’t get used to them.

Ive been a Roccat user for over 6 years now....... Im waiting for the kone pure wireless. I would settle for a Kone pro air mini

That wow cube would be good for my mom, she loves games like that. Amen, not every mouse needs to be superlight.

FINALLY 😍

Was thinking about this or the xm2w when it comes out, any thoughts? I currently have the g502 wired and finding my hand/wrist gets pain, typically relaxed finger/palm grip. Thought maybe a smaller/lighter mouse would alleviate some of that.

ngl that wow cube was pretty cool

Looks nice but im more in to a wired mouse. I just returned the Kone xp since the sensor was of and being wierd. I missed every skill shot with it. Im gona stick with the Kone pro alltho i do admit the burst looks nice.

looks stinkin good 👍 such a great product

the only concern for me is the double clicking and I this does not have issues like my logitech g304

someone call Roccat and remind them that their keebs r still wired

That is a real good looking mouse in white.

Mice should not cost $100+ I hate how companies get away with this shit. Sure back when wireless mice were just starting to make their way into the gaming space the price is justified but now there are so many wireless options for half the price

my boy on that D2 grind

I have the burst pro and been dreaming about it being wireless but this ain’t it. Maybe if it goes on sale like half off I’ll try it .

Its $55 right now great buy

is it a sponsored review?

Even as a enthusiast of gaming perishables, I couldn’t justify the buy of the burst pro air when the fanatic Bolt, HyperX Pulsefire haste wireless, or even the Logitech G303 exists. Or even the unreleased Endgame Gear Xm2w thats up for pre-order. To each their own, but I feel like Roccat missed the mark with this release.

Just picked up one of these bad boys up

really better mice out there, unless your still in that rgb phase for your periphals

It's been a few months and the technical data on this mouse is out, and it's bad. Even if you're ok with a heavy mouse, the high latency and sluggish response of the Burst Pro Air should be a deal breaker. It's a shame, I like the shape and the side button placement. All I wanted was better mouse 1&2 clicks with competitive wireless performance to Logitech and Razer. But Roccat failed. Poor latency, heavy weight, and focus on RGB and not performance.

Can’t wait for my to come in

I loved the mouse.

Hmmm interesting 👀

is the clicks as stiff as the wired one? or more lighter now?

I’ve had one for months and they get creeky

i ended up buying this mouse, but i almost didnt because you are starting to give off car salesman vibes

is this rechargable?

I just got my kone xp.....i need it in wireless too! that would be my pefect mouse

it's a no for me. i have the xm2w pre ordered instead

lil 2x2 rubiks cube smart device nice

Hi Techne, can you review JBL Quantum One

Hi sir...could you please do a video of comparison of gpx and starlight final mouse 12... And Mic comparison between shure sm7b and hyperx quadcast s

I only miss a dongle adapter.

Anybody looking for a solid light weight mouse get a razer viper mini. It is very good imo.

Does it still have the weird coating on it? That is the only issue I have with this mouse, it's the only mouse that has ever made my hand sweat profusely.

80 grams in 2022 is just lazy design and bad for marketing. Bet they could have made it lighter easily.

Btw... Razer Viper Pro V2 already exist 😱

half of the video is a sponsor. cmon man don't sell out

seems like a sick mouse

80 gr is crap in 2022

should have titled the video WOW Cube advertisement since that's the majority of the video. do better.

well..... i use a 139g mouse

Roccat The only company I RESPECT 2022 Nice to see they not are not into that “bUt MoM wE nEeD LiGhT wEiGhT mOuSe” shit show

Amazing!! You asked for it. You got it. Thank you for reviewing it!! Holy smokes! I need to get one of these WoW cubes :)

tbh i had a roccat kone pro air and now i have the logitech pro the new one . and in gaming the logitech i much better

Lmao

hmmm wow i like the white . Hmm better then my model O lol wink or yours might have to get one.

Just found this mouse for 57 dollars on amazon

I'm going to have to move up to 2lb dumbbells in my workouts to be able to use this thing. Hopefully I don't hurt myself.

to be honest i dont like the fact that roccat cant make an actual esports mouse like gpx superlight or viper v2 pro and they just keep adding this shitty aimo billion zone lighting which makes the mouse 81g and then they advertise it as extreme lightweight lmao

unfortunately to heavy... 60-70grams are better.

81g for a wireless mice in 2022. big yiiikes.

And a adder one 3370 sens 😅😂😂😂

Lmao calling out the haters omg that got me NGL 😂

Look up review of mouse, 8 minutes long first 3:30 is some crappy ad about some stupid unrelated cube.

Sheee

80 grams is heavy FOR A GAMING MOUSE lol..... you will allways play better with a lighter mouse... your hand weighs "nothing" and that is the most easy thing to move around..... This mouse is bulky and ugly phhh RGB don't need it

Yo?

This is a poor review.

Everyone complaining about 80g…🙄 They probably couldn’t get the M65 to the register. I love a hefty mouse could have gone bigger imo, my current lineup is the IronClaw wireless , Deathadder wireless, and the Kone Pro Air. This one will probably find its way in there I loved the wired version for FPS.

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