See, NOW THIS makes sense!

LOL!

I know. The purpose of a movie is to show, don't tell.

Thats just sad...

So you've seen the original workprint or test footage, hmm? Also, it was corporate that demanded the changes.

@@SirBlackReeds No I didn't. I just look up stuff. The narration was added because test audiences were confused.

Well then maybe Nostalgia Critic's reason can satisfy you: God got bored so he decided to fuck around with the rooster so he played yo-yo with the sun

Bluth said that the Sun felt so bad for ryising without the rooster's sing, he hid away in shame until he'd sing again

Like in every fairy tale you know. This world is a fucking fairy tale with some kind of dichotomic deities. Of course it doesn't make any sense, did you read the bible and said: "... hum, yes, I'm not sure the fate of mankind could have been decided in a garden by a snake"

​@@frabre1810 That may be the creator's explanation, but there is nothing in the movie to imply that.

​@Shades14 it was likely cut out of the film during one of the many rewrites it had

What he was saying and what it sounded like were two very different things.

Musical Hell Agreed. The NC’s review was the first time I ever heard the word furry.

Kid has a lisp. So is "All" sounds like "A." It took me a bit to hear it. But in either case, it's hilarious.

+MusicalHell Good point Deva.

The kid's acting is so bad you can't even tell

Amelia Bee it was a Duke Howl magic trick.

Amelia Bee God got board and wanted to f*** around with a rooster, so he played yo-yo with the sun.

The local sun deity was mad at him

Hero, I found the film online and actually watched the wretched thing, they NEVER explain that. The Duke had nothing to do with it, the sun just...sorta went back down. No reason whatsoever. Total bullshit.

simple: God got board and decided to fuck around with a rooster so he played yo-yo with the sun

I think he's actually saying "I'm all furry," but what's the fun in an accurate hearing?

Goldie Pheasant, a character in this movie, is the one responsible for turning kids into furries ;)

I think he is, but it's slightly garbled, so it does sound like "I'm a furry". The audio in this movie was awful.

Don't forget Pinky, also, fat furs

I don't weather to blame the kid or the audio guy

I was 5 and a half when I went to a Matinee to see it with my Kindergarten class back in Mid Fall '88, EVERYONE around me were sobbing like little babies. I suspect, Diva was bit too little when it came out(probably 4) and can't really recall it in its prime. And also possibly doesn't want to mention its hundred DTV Sequels, since the first is Standalone and NOT a musical, or the tragic Elephant in the Room about the Murder Suicide of Judith Barsi.

Ya know, I never would've seen any of the Land Before Time's if it wasn't for my step step grandpa's mom

Let's not forget _All Dogs Go To Heaven,_ which could get dark (with the main character being murdered and having a nightmare where he's sent to Hell), but had some light-hearted moments that kept it from alienating itself from easily-frightened kids and parents and had a bittersweet ending.

If that line was spoken by the main antagonist, then it would be charity, given that Hutch was one of the sins.

To answer that line: Depends if Barbatos (Ruler of the Dark Multiverse) deems him a worthy sacrifice.

@@IdeaBox-dk5vj it probably is

@@MrGabeanator Well, that's great.

@@IdeaBox-dk5vj ok

That's how I feel about Don Bluth animations as well, but A Troll in Central Park was not sufferable, unlike the other Don Bluth films released before Anastasia and after All Dogs Go to Heaven because it is WAY too child-pandering so Don Bluth realized how godawful A Troll in Central Park is.

Agreed. Also, as a Jewish kid who was born in the 80s; I can't help but love the man who brought Fievel into my life

I agree. His character design game was always on point. Even in the Pebble and the Penguin (I love Marina's design). One of the things that draw me to his films are his animation style and the character designs, no matter how much they lack in terms of personality.

@@kieranstark7213 I grew up with All Dogs go to Heaven, but I feel that the Pebble and the Penguin was WAY too kiddie for me it enjoy. I haven't watched A Troll in Central Park yet, but I don't think I want to any time soon...

@@sachicocoa9013 Same here!

Hell, yellow coat....flooding....nostalgia for 1950s kitsch....it would be fun for him to do an animated Stephen King movie.

I feel like his movies very much are animated horror movies, just not as bloody.

@@maximumrisk2004 yep

Because the guy is like a hundred years old now and done making major animated productions.

I remember when I saw those cool fanarts of Five Nights at Freddy's as Don Bluth movies and I was like "SOMEONE GET BLUTH TO ACTUALLY DO THIS, PLEASE!"

Or Ellen Greene as the voice of Goldie.

I'm usually all in favor of Christopher Plummer getting to do his own singing for a change--his little part in "An American Tail" was really charming--but this... this wasn't it. He and Greene really deserved a better showcase of their talents.

Just imagine him trying to sneak away

I will agree it's a bad film though.

crcoghill Same ! I watched This so much as a kid

I have a strange penchant for bad movies/animation. It’s a terrible movie and yet I’ll still watch it lol

@@crcoghill So are most Don Bluth film's- all style no substance. Its a constant problem in maybe all of his films outside of Rats of Nimh.

Same. I always kinda liked Snipes but that's probably just because he's a bird (I like birds) and voiced by Mandark (I recognized his voice as a kid) XD Honestly in my eyes the Duke is this movie's biggest tragedy. He could've been such a good villain, I see potential in him, but the movie made him such a wimp.

I agree I never felt like this movie was calling me stupid. To say that the movie does talk down to it's audience feels like the person is too lazy to do research

"Goldie was suppose to be more alluring". Wait, where there zoophiles amongst the writers?

@@Thunderblock7889 She kinda looks like the bird version of the girl from Dragon's Lair.

Its a proven thing that, unfortunately, Don Bluth doesn't know how to draw a cat to save his life. They either look like raccoon demons, or...well, this.

Those ears somehow look like a pink ribbon on top his head

What about Banjo?

Ed Gilbert voiced Baloo, instead.

Tornado1994 he sounds pretty close, at it never bothered me.

Hey! All these musicians are as top-notch!!!!!

He was one hell of a wife-beater

RIP Christopher Plummer (1929-2021).

Imagine him trying to get away from this

And Hutch was Charles Nelson-Reilly.

But better .

does that mean a troll in central park is don bluths foodfight?

And Trolls is DreamWorks Animation's Trolls, but the only DreamWorks Animation film that is more weak is Shark Tale.

Mileidy Class he made home on the range?!

Every artist will make a misfire once in a while as love don bluth still.

That's a popular opinion. Just letting us all know.

Paladin Demo Jeez, I thought he'd be content with being smart Aleck know it all (that has a crush on the sister of his archenemy) on a kid's cartoon.

Reapermaskhybrid maybe mandark needed a break.

Technically this was made BEFORE Dexter's Labratory.

Paladin Demo Yeah, I guess so.

why yes

I heard somewhere that apparently some people started complaining that his movies were too scary for kids, so starting with Thumbelina, Bluth started toning down his films. Biggest mistake he ever made.

I can guess one reason Bluth fell from grace: at that time, Disney was making films with epic stories that for the most part taught lessons for children to carry into adulthood through good entertainment while the adults could appreciate both the filmmaking and the intelligent themes. Plus, the stories earned their darker moments, especially The Lion King. Meanwhile, Bluth's films at that time contained smaller, more saccharine premises that adults would reject and only really little kids would enjoy. Just put the premises of The Lion King and A Troll in Central Park right next to each other as both came out the same year. One shows the growth and maturation of a young lion as he learns universal lessons and experiences happiness, tragedy, exile, love, and redemption, all on the journey to become a true king. The other is about an overly happy and goofy troll who does nothing but dance with walking flowers and encounters two obnoxious little kids while dreaming unrealistically of a completely saccharine world. I think it's easy to guess which film almost everyone would rather watch.

Connor Brennan let God deal with the Saccharine World concept; that’s his job, thank you.

@@koriabrams6243 That wouldn't surprise me if that was the case. I know when I was a kid (mid-'90s) I was both horrified and enraptured by The Secret of NIMH, yet my sister was terrified of the movie, she would refuse to watch it with me.

Connor Brennan And, to compare Scar with Gnorga: One is an evil uncle who kills his own brother and exiles his own nephew to become King, because of jealousy, which was presumably caused by neglect he suffered when he was young (the Broadway musical version of TLK implies that), and he had a kickass villain song, and a solid performance given by Jeremy Irons. The other is just the typical kid's movie villain who does what she does solely because she's evil and that's it. Also, hates flowers just because the plot demands it. Which sounds like a better villain? (Not to toot my own horn, but, I think we can all agree it's Scar who's the superior villain)

Some of the unusual names come right from the Rostand play--Patou was the barnyard dog's name in the play. (The name does look distinctively French.)

Chanticleer was the traditional name of the rooster in European beast fables. The fox was Reynard, the wolf was Ysengrim, Tibert was the cat, and so on.

I think you mean "tasty". Big breasts on a chicken always means more meat!

@@CJCroen1393 growth hormones.

He was like 86 years old when he was cast. Cut him some slack, man.

Yeah, i guess, but still, why would Phil Harris (one of my favorite comedians/musician) think THIS was worthy of his time after he worked with DISNEY? And Walt Disney HIMSELF (on Jungle Book, one of the last films Walt worked on directly.)

Harris I believe felt like he was going past his prime at the time this was made. Remember, in 1989, he had auditioned to reprise his role as Baloo in "Adventures of Captain Baloo"(The Working Title of TaleSpin whereas Tiny Toon Adventures' working title in '89 was Little Looney Tunes".) but demurred and asked Ed Gilbert to do it instead. Harris was extremely proud of Ed. In his Old age, Harris just didn't have it anymore. Which is odd, because Hal Smith voiced worked until his death in 1994, the man was nearly 90 when he died and STILL was able to voice act. While Legends Alan Young and June Foray were ABLE to reprise their roles in the Ducktales Remastered Video Game in 2013 while in their Mid 90s! BOTH even though they were obviously VERY old, its described that the Voice Artist Team drove both of them from the Hollywood Retirement Center in Woodland Hills to Burbank to record the voice over work, but though they were both in their Mid 90s, Alan(Who could no longer properly walk and had occasionally used a Wheelchair) and June(Who walked and waddled like an elderly woman) were VIBRANT and Cognitive! They remembered lines with 100% accuracy, delivered with energy and passion as if they were 30 years younger, and were able to get into their roles with absolutely no issues of any kind. It was AMAZING seeing how they both STILL Had it. At such an Old age. It was because they had been doing TV voice work for almost 60 years, and Radio Voice work since the 30s. The sad thing is that both Alan and June had requested in 2015 that they'd be able to do the First Season of Ducktales 2017 Reboot as a Dying Wish and Final Curtain Call. But Disney XD producers turned both of them down. Alan died suddenly from Heart Failure on May 19,2016 while talking to his family inside the Community Center in Woodland Hills(He collapsed to the Floor and fell out of his chair while he was talking), he died JUST as Voice Over sessions for Ducktales Reboot had begun June died in her Sleep on July 26,2017, she died a couple of short weeks before the Reboot's pilot had debuted.

Tornado1994 Why did the Disney XD producers turn down June and Alan?

Because they already had in mind who they wanted to cast. Alan & June's Agent was never told by Disney XD that David Tennant and Catherine Tate had already been decided by The Network. Disney XD basically double crossed them, robbing them of they're dying wish. It was basically a very petty thing for Disney XD to do, especially since Alan and June were STILL able to voice work.

Quick give the idea to an indie studio.

+TheatreGeek are you kidding me. Disney owns this film now?

No, but I believe they own the rights to adapt the Chanticleer story to film.

Sorry I was confused.

Even worse than Food Fight? At least A Troll in Central Park didn't contain a scene where a Nazi officer peed on himself and enjoyed the experience or was chock full of product placement for junk food aimed at children.

Gertrud Bondesson In defense of Food Fight, if you’re in the right mind set, it can be a “so bad, it’s good” film.

Food Fight's BIGGEST fatal flaw is its tasteless,godawful script. Its why it got shelved for 7 years and why Larry Kassanoff came up with that bullshit story about the Hard Drives being stolen. A Troll in Central Park is just ANNOYING and contrived. Its on the same level as Patch Adams and Simon Birch as Sappy Manipulative bullshit.

Tornado1994 For me, Food Fight is one of those so bad, it’s good films. Yes, it’s stupid, but for me, it’s enjoyably stupid.

Hey remember me?

datadoggieein At least when a raven or crow is a villain, it makes sense (being scavengers and all).

That, or they resort to using vultures as villainous birds.

Owls are creepy

Ghostwriter creepiness doesn’t always equal badness.

So was I! I love Guardians of Ga'Hoole! Hate the movie though.

Team Rocket yes I hope it would help my sane from Pokémon ultra moon and Beast fight club in wizard101

So long as she doesn't review 3... That wound is still too fresh. R.I.P Cameron...

Does that movie have any songs? Sorry if that sounds stupid but I don't think I've heard of it.

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Not to mention the chicken showgirl who looks like a knockoff of Jessica Rabbit, really, none of the characters or environments look like they belong in the same movie. Plus, why does the cat/boy has dark rings around his eyes in his cartoon cat form? If they were trying to make it look like he has dark fur around his eye, it fails, he looks like he either got punched in the eye or put on too much eye shadow.

Gertrud Bondesson "the chicken showgirl who looks like a knockoff of Jessica Rabbit" OK, I see your point there.... Though that chicken showgirl is still something to look at, eh, eh, wink, wink, nudge, nudge say no more?

EYTPS Maybe, but is that really a character design appropriate for a kids movie?

Gertrud Maybe not............ but does it have to be? Ya telling me kids can't handle a little sexiness? After all, we don't like to be *condescending in our kids movies* like Diva described earlier, eh? ;) The people at Playfur Cinema would be laughing at you for asking a question like that

Also, Toby Scott Ganger as Edmund makes Jake Lloyd look like Maisie Williams.

I'm waiting on Secret of NIMH 2, Quest For Camelot and even Graffiti Bridge.

+Tornado1994 Oooh those are also good choices for her to cover in the future.

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The #6 Runaway Guys Fan ok, nice to meet you

That's what I thought!

Well, it's still something to look at like Daphne ;)

It's not like the film had a huge budget. Sheesh.

Absolutely agreed, especially in today's market where there's an overabundance of either dumb kiddy garbage or pretentious tryhard to be funny or self-aware comedy, from either Disney or Illumination. I was checking Racso And The Rats of NIMH lately (the official sequel to the novel upon which The Secret of NIMH was based). I'm still very early into the book, but it seems a bit of a daunting task to adapt it in film form. Racso is Jenner's son, and in the books, Jenner was simply a disgruntled separatist that moved back to the city with some followers, instead of a scheming villain who wanted to stay in the rose bush. Nicodemus is still alive. There's also the unfortunate circumstance that half of the original voice cast has passed away (though perhaps Derek Jacobi could still portray Nicodemus in flashbacks). If you want some links to get a better picture, feel free to ask, cuz I was thinking about a possible adaptation that ignores that garbage Secret of NIMH 2 sequel, and I'd like to hear suggestions.

@@yrooxrksvi7142 He's working on the Dragon's Lair Movie.

Bluth's films (Except A Troll in Central Park and Pete's Dragon) have a certain CHARM to them. My 2 favorite being An American Tail & Secret of NIMH, and yes, I like Rock-A-Doodle. Its a Guilty Pleasure of Half baked,pretentious,far-fetched nonsense.

If you're a true Don Bluth fan then you have to watch it at least once. You can find it on Netflix, or for free somewhere on the internet, possibly KZfaq or Internet Archive; definitely KissCartoon.

EYTPS Depends on the year this shit came out. "Super Mario 64" came out in 1996.

Andrew Del Pilar Actually, the Super Mario 64 sounds came from the Korg M1, so the Don Bluth team must have used that for the organ sound for this film

EYTPS Sweet.

Super Mario 64 for the N64 aged more than most other Nintendo games as well as the N64 in general, but Super Mario 64 for the N64 aged from a near-masterpiece to a good-to-great video game). Rock-A-Doodle, however, I guess after all, even though I did not notice, I was trying to be nice and honest at the same time by telling Glen Campbell (yes, I spoke with him about many things including Selena Gomez) that I gave Rock-A-Doodle a 5/10. And it is incredible how easy-going Glen Campbell is.

Saccharine was exactly the word I was thinking to describe it.

@@connorbrennan4233 It's just...an exercise in futility.

AniMat's first ever review of 2018 is on The Rescuers Down Under, a much, MUCH better film released in the early 90s. Bobsheaux, Nostalgia Critic, Cinemassacre, Jambareeqi, Cartoon Palooza and ToonGrin's first ever review of 2018 is on TBA (I know, that's not a film!!!!).

He IS Mandark.

Iggy on Duckman as well.

Audrey from Little Shop of Horrors voices Goldie.

Tornado1994 Man, who's careers DIDN'T get a stain on them because of this movie?

I can't think of anyone else.

Tornado1994 Exactly. At least Deezen went on to play one of the best villains in Cartoon Network history, besides Mojo Jojo that is.

You mean, Mandark. Deezen was also on Duckman.