Rocket on coal, second attempt

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picrijogil

picrijogil

11 жыл бұрын

Second try for running my O.S. Rocket on coal, at the KMYCA track

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@jimstevens1726
@jimstevens1726 3 жыл бұрын
I am amazed by the tractive effort. A wonderful engine indeed.
@RichardASK
@RichardASK 3 жыл бұрын
That was absolutely brilliant. I was also amazed at the traction. It makes you realise how much work and planning ahead the old drivers and firemen had to do to keep a consistently high speed journey going, on the old steamers. Best 9 minutes spent recently.
@tomkaltenbaugh1773
@tomkaltenbaugh1773 9 жыл бұрын
I think the engineer is learning quickly! LOL
@stevedoubleu99B
@stevedoubleu99B 6 жыл бұрын
Nearly everyone likes model trains, but ones you can actually ride on are even more cool!!!
@martintunnicliffe8934
@martintunnicliffe8934 3 жыл бұрын
That locomotive is tiny but SO powerful for its size!
@stirlingmoss4621
@stirlingmoss4621 3 жыл бұрын
the original Rocket form rocked like this model and was modified by the Stephensons to eliminate this action by lowering the pistons. Success.
@francisstaines2073
@francisstaines2073 6 жыл бұрын
I drove on this track many years ago with my Britannia Oliver Cromwell, it was good to see the track again!!! I must admit I never noticed that there was a gradient!!! This little engine did do well to pull a passenger........very good driving
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris - Thanks - actually I managed about 10 laps without any problems, but my camera corrupted the file ... this was teh second try after I noticed i couldn't play it back. The track has been gone now for over a year, fingers crossed we'll manage to build a new one by the end of the year! If so, you and your Britannia are cordially invited to the opening!
@timeflysintheshop
@timeflysintheshop 3 жыл бұрын
@@picrijogil Did the track ever get rebuilt?
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 3 жыл бұрын
@@timeflysintheshop Yes it did! check out the more recent videos on my channel for what it looks like now - we even have switches!
@direktorpresident
@direktorpresident 3 жыл бұрын
Marvellous, the way the boiler rocks on the chassis makes it seem almost human! Thanks
@paullee5573
@paullee5573 3 жыл бұрын
An engineer never stops learning , my friend.
@peterreber7671
@peterreber7671 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of power must get lost in that.
@MBANZUKE
@MBANZUKE 3 жыл бұрын
The tractive effort produced by such a small drive wheel/rail contact is amazing. I don't know the potential power output of this unit but just to be able to pull that weight with so little downforce available on those driving wheels is amazing.! As said in previous comments - this little unit is powerful, now scale that up to the likes of Tornado or Flying Scotsman and you can see why they became the preferred power units for so many years.! One thing to bear in mind though is that despite the means of power - albeit, steam, electric, or whatever - the tractive effort and wheel/rail adhesion is still the most important factor - not only with getting going (accelerating) but most of all slowing and stopping.!
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely ... the tractive effort in this case is theoretically limited to about half of the weight of the engine, which weighs 9kg, but it definitely slips much sooner than that. It helps to push down a bit onto the steam dome, especially when pulling more weight. It can pull an extra wagon with a child or three, but that is really hard work for the poor little engine. I expect the tractive force to be something in the neighborhood of 0.500 kg force (or about 5N). Your comment about stopping is noted - however, with a train this light, you can just put your feet down ;)
@alanbryant8457
@alanbryant8457 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the sound it makes. His train sounds like steam engines from old western movies. Color and black and white movies.
@tubeflair
@tubeflair 9 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Love how it spat on the camera lens.
@panzerabwerkanone
@panzerabwerkanone 3 жыл бұрын
It was this run that made Thomas the Tank Engine realize his new job really sucked.
@greatnorthernrailwaytother4711
@greatnorthernrailwaytother4711 3 жыл бұрын
I think I can, I think I can. .........great model.
@wideyxyz2271
@wideyxyz2271 6 жыл бұрын
Make a tapered chute out of some old tin to help get coal into the fire box. Much easier and less messy than trying to use a shovel all the time. I made one out of an old quality street tin lid.
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 6 жыл бұрын
Good tip - thanks. I do think I especially need smaller coal :)
@paullee5573
@paullee5573 3 жыл бұрын
@@picrijogil I bought an old school , hand operated meat grinder to crush my coal up.I cost me 50p at a car boot sale.
@4thsgames
@4thsgames 11 жыл бұрын
i bloody love this loco. and i love these videos of it. you need more :P but nice one buddy your getting it! :)
@RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS
@RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS 6 жыл бұрын
Seems to steam very well! And an interesting choice of livery there...
@robertbiolsi9815
@robertbiolsi9815 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing how powerful that little engine is
@beltfed4624
@beltfed4624 6 жыл бұрын
That little locomotive can pull a grown man? No helping it along? Just imagine what kind of power a real steam locomotive had then, if something the size of a shoebox can do this... 😌 Quite amusing.
@boxcarwillies1603
@boxcarwillies1603 7 жыл бұрын
Rocket!! Lovely little steam she is, but she must be very hard to keep going.
@couzeukian5122
@couzeukian5122 3 жыл бұрын
I think that is a brilliant little engine. Sounds good as well when it is working hard. It can be tricky to maintain water, pressure and a hot fire on larger engines, so I think you did amazingly well. On larger engines you can add coal while leaving bright areas of fire. I would imagine the firebox is so tiny on your Rocket, that one scoop of coal blackens most of the fire.
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian - the thing is I managed to do 10 laps of the track without a hitch before this take, but the camera corrupted the file - honest!
@couzeukian5122
@couzeukian5122 3 жыл бұрын
@@picrijogil Oh as an engineer myself, I know there is nothing like an Engineering process going unexpectedly wrong or a computer for making you look a complete idiot!
@dennislaws5187
@dennislaws5187 3 жыл бұрын
amazing little engine
@ziplocBagofRobloxia
@ziplocBagofRobloxia 2 жыл бұрын
i love how it wobbles like how the real engine would have done! thats a nice little detail
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a cosciously added detail, it is just the construction which is as original, which then leads to the same wobbling effect. The original engine was rebuilt after a year because the footplate crew got too seasick riding the engine...
@johndii2194
@johndii2194 3 жыл бұрын
It is doing its famous side-to-side thing. Cool!
@markknoop6283
@markknoop6283 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh lovely commuting to work in the morning. Fire and water what else do we really nead.
@trainfan-ks5hk
@trainfan-ks5hk 7 жыл бұрын
Really nice model
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@euartes2794
@euartes2794 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@anthonyagnelneri4076
@anthonyagnelneri4076 6 жыл бұрын
THAT little engine is a DAM workhorse!!
@anthonyagnelneri4076
@anthonyagnelneri4076 6 жыл бұрын
Where's the water storage tank and coal car??
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 6 жыл бұрын
...and that's why you're watching it ;)
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 6 жыл бұрын
It has a tender - the barrel can contain 750mL of extra water - about enough for 4-5 laps of the track. Coal is in a small container between my legs, because putting it on the tender would be most impractical indeed.
@thomasgriffin5340
@thomasgriffin5340 5 жыл бұрын
Anthony Agnelneri the car with the water barrel is the model tender. The car he is riding has coal under his legs.
@SBCBears
@SBCBears 6 жыл бұрын
The runner brought a dog this time to see the action.
@FAIRGROUNDFUNFAIRSUK
@FAIRGROUNDFUNFAIRSUK 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant vid
@Sandhoeflyerhome
@Sandhoeflyerhome 3 жыл бұрын
I live near where the original was made !! I can see a lot or torque movement of the engine
@86cleo86
@86cleo86 8 жыл бұрын
woow, so cool :)
@martintunnicliffe8934
@martintunnicliffe8934 3 жыл бұрын
Time flies by when I'm the driver of a train
@sharadsharma4459
@sharadsharma4459 6 жыл бұрын
Nice machine. how much coal per km consumed?
@royfearn4345
@royfearn4345 3 жыл бұрын
The hammer blow on the original must have played havoc with the trackbed over Chat Moss! I amenvious.
@charlesbartlett4457
@charlesbartlett4457 3 жыл бұрын
That is quite the speeder
@davidcrook5511
@davidcrook5511 3 жыл бұрын
And where is this again? Is this in the UK? I noticed a German (?) registered BMW parked close to the track.
@haroldpearson6025
@haroldpearson6025 4 жыл бұрын
Few tips that may help: Its important to keep the fire hole door closed as much as possible. To this end I would use a shoot rather than a shovel. Check the blast pipe nozzle, may be a little large. Reduce the ram size on the axle pump if possible. Is the lubricator working ok? Also check there are no air leaks round the smokebox.
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Harold - in theory I know all of this. The water pump is adjustable, the lubricator works fine, and the blast nozzle is also fine. It's just that I usually run the loco on propane to cut down on the mess... and that is a lot easier. For a challenge, however ... :)
@haroldpearson6025
@haroldpearson6025 4 жыл бұрын
@@picrijogilMany thanks for your response. I have built 6 locos 2 in each model gauge. The smallest being a Tich and Juliet. The axle pump on Tich was 5/16 ram which caused considerable hydraulic hammer. I reduced the ram size to 1/4 which made things much more manageable. Lagging the boiler also helped a lot. Do you use the blower whilst running, you shouldn't need to?
@mikerobotscience
@mikerobotscience 4 жыл бұрын
lovely
@fxsrider
@fxsrider 3 жыл бұрын
That is hilarious!!
@johndavey72
@johndavey72 3 жыл бұрын
I saw you steaming up and then assumed the "Rocket" would run off on it's own ! Then l realised you were still attached ! The scale speed was probably in excess of 50 mph ! And l guess you built this from scratch ? Fabulous workmanship! Thanks for sharing ......was that your BMW ?
@otherunicorn
@otherunicorn 3 жыл бұрын
The Rock-it :)
@Shadofax03051
@Shadofax03051 3 жыл бұрын
BMW 2002Tii? Had one of those. Loved that car.
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 3 жыл бұрын
It's its predecessor, the venerable BMW 1600-2
@Mercmad
@Mercmad 3 жыл бұрын
@@picrijogil I've had 3 of those .One with a later 3 series 2 liter in it.
@pmb9172
@pmb9172 3 жыл бұрын
Once moving would using coal that you had pulverised much more not help to keep it going rather than waiting on the larger lumps to catch and burn ?
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 3 жыл бұрын
probably, yes :)
@cdracing
@cdracing 3 жыл бұрын
Tractive force!
@marynollaig4124
@marynollaig4124 3 жыл бұрын
what is the gage of the wheels. what is its scale? Fantastic loco, why is there so much background noise?
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 3 жыл бұрын
5in gauge, 1:11 scale. The background noise is due to the ringroad around Antwerp being 25 meters away ...
@thomasjamison2050
@thomasjamison2050 3 жыл бұрын
Insanity knows no bounds. It's darling though...
@SMcM16
@SMcM16 4 жыл бұрын
What Gauge was it and hwo much did it cost picrijogil?
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 4 жыл бұрын
The gauge is 5 inch. You can pre-order one of this with the new manufacturer, www.km-1.de/html/rocket.html
@serioustrouble63
@serioustrouble63 9 жыл бұрын
Amazing that this little machine can pull your weight and that there is enough friction so that the wheels don't spin. How does that work? Doesn't look like the machine ist heavy enough to get that much pressure on the wheels.
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 9 жыл бұрын
Rocket weighs a little over 9 kg, and doesn't have too much traction. However, on flat track, and with ball bearings in the driving wagon, it works well enough. With heavier loads (another wagon and a couple of kids) it helps to push down on the Loco behind the steam dome. In the rain though, nothing helps...
@serioustrouble63
@serioustrouble63 9 жыл бұрын
picrijogil Thank you, fascinating, how much power the loco has, if you look at the size of the cylinders and rods.
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 9 жыл бұрын
serioustrouble63 You don't really need much to pull a wagon over railroad track - I estimate Rocket has about 5N (half a kg force) of pulling power at the drawbar. The loco can literally be stopped with two fingers. It has a bore of 17mm and a stroke of 38mm, but runs on steam at 6 bar.
@serioustrouble63
@serioustrouble63 9 жыл бұрын
picrijogil o.k., 6 bar is an number! I love modelling and would like to build a live steam loco, but I think I have a big lack of patience.... BTW, is this track in a public park?
@robertkennedy5178
@robertkennedy5178 6 жыл бұрын
No wheel slip going up hill! But seriously, I think that poor little engine is being overworked! Amazing power of steam.
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 6 жыл бұрын
overworked ...I sort of agree, but it copes well - OS Live Steam did a great job designing this.
@robertkennedy5178
@robertkennedy5178 6 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed,fine craftsmanship & I hope no offense was taken. Still, I'm amazed that such a small engine with a tiny bore and stroke can move a full grown man. Again,a very nice model!
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 6 жыл бұрын
Oh certainly no offense taken - thanks :)
@sirjames26
@sirjames26 3 жыл бұрын
Rock and roll
@panzerrommel3812
@panzerrommel3812 7 жыл бұрын
imagine what happens if you fall off the engine while your on the high part of the track
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 7 жыл бұрын
Well, I plan not to!
@panzerrommel3812
@panzerrommel3812 7 жыл бұрын
picrijogil I know right!
@StrangerHappened
@StrangerHappened 6 жыл бұрын
What is the maximum speed of this monster? How many horse powers it has?
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 6 жыл бұрын
It has the power of a tiny, tiny pony ... no, seriously, about 5N pulling power or so ?
@christophersheward1960
@christophersheward1960 3 жыл бұрын
Stephenson should have called it the Rocker, not the Rocket !!
@anthonyagnelneri4076
@anthonyagnelneri4076 6 жыл бұрын
Cool WHY am I watching this??!! Lol
@roosterman8911
@roosterman8911 3 жыл бұрын
Who took the time and money to build the elevated concrete track ? Must have been a true train enthusiast ??
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 3 жыл бұрын
It was the club track of the KMYCA club, in a public park near Antwerp in Belgium. Club members built all of it in the 1980s, but in 2016 it was demolished to make room for sport fields. We were allocated a different location in the park, and the province of Antwerp was kind enough to hire a contractor for pouring and placing the (new) concrete beams. The club membership then completed the circuit with the necessary bridges, elevated switches, steaming bays, and all 330m of triple-gauge track. This is the new track: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fb17fbqgnt7apIE.html and kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mJtmlpaKkq-1aIk.html
@urik7721
@urik7721 3 жыл бұрын
Aren’t you burning fossil fuel and emitting CO2? Bad, bad boy! (just kidding of course)😛 On the positive note: it is very pleasing and satisfying to watch! I enjoyed it immensely.👍
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 3 жыл бұрын
Well, for more of the same therapeutic effect, watch my new video i'm uploading right now :) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mLd8l694mrHDlp8.html
@stephenhudson6543
@stephenhudson6543 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it doesn't seem like that little locomotive would have enough guts to pull a grown man
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 3 жыл бұрын
...ah but it does! :)
@ruidong4017
@ruidong4017 5 жыл бұрын
where can I buy it or the drawing ?
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 5 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid you can't - the machine is a commercial product by OS Live Steam, and they haven't been made in the last few years. Second-hand woudl be your best bet - once in a while one comes up for sale...
@ruidong4017
@ruidong4017 5 жыл бұрын
@@picrijogilthank you for your davice 。i very like this rocket ,can you tell me where can i buy the used rocket。
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 5 жыл бұрын
@@ruidong4017 I'm afraid you'll just have to keep a close watch on auction platforms (like invaluable) auction houses (like Dreweatts) and internet for-sale sites such as steam-engines-for-sale or discoverlivesteam. Once every year or so, one will show up. Good luck!
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 5 жыл бұрын
@@ruidong4017 I just discovered that km-1.de will start selling them again by the end of the year, so you buy a brand new one from them. If you do, make a video!
@Fonziedaz1
@Fonziedaz1 3 жыл бұрын
Wow look at it go
@aepickard7907
@aepickard7907 3 жыл бұрын
Nice model but seems to use a lot of coal
@mikeking2539
@mikeking2539 3 жыл бұрын
Why is it Red? Rocket was Yellow
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 3 жыл бұрын
Well, it was red when I bought it ... and it grew on me !
@eifionjones559
@eifionjones559 3 жыл бұрын
very poor dsign that was soon replaced on the original , the rocking motion destroyed it
@dogyslime9954
@dogyslime9954 5 жыл бұрын
Is it supposed to be wobbling
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 5 жыл бұрын
well, the original did...
@dogyslime9954
@dogyslime9954 5 жыл бұрын
Oh ok I was just worried
@pauldunn1901
@pauldunn1901 7 жыл бұрын
i worried abt your rocket's body is very shaken and you need to looking at it and put it correct and it will looking smooth running
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 7 жыл бұрын
The only way to fix this would be to remove the front suspension all together - and that would give problems with derailing. The shaking is authentic - due to the design the full size one did it as well.
@RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS
@RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS 6 жыл бұрын
picrijogil That's inclined cylinders for you! I think it adds more character to it.
@guypenryn7008
@guypenryn7008 3 жыл бұрын
Looks a bit of an uncomfortable driving position especially on a raised track must have good balance
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 3 жыл бұрын
It's OK - the driving truck was cobbled together quickly for also being able to be used on ground track. The current one is shaped like Rocket's blue second class coach and has much longer footrests for better comfort.
@guypenryn7008
@guypenryn7008 3 жыл бұрын
@@picrijogil the engine looks fantastic
@bill45colt
@bill45colt 6 жыл бұрын
is there no governor on that thing?? seems to me a governor would keep you from having to mess with it all along,,,seems to be a royal pain in the ass,,,,,but what do i know??
@cortezcortez9607
@cortezcortez9607 3 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
@luckyfanisaac2638
@luckyfanisaac2638 7 жыл бұрын
Your not a very good fireman!
@picrijogil
@picrijogil 7 жыл бұрын
Gee, and you're not a very good speller! Now, in all honesty, I ran for about 12 laps without any issues, then had to stop because things started going pear-shaped, and noticed then that my camera had thrown a hissy fit and corrupted the recorded file - so I had to do it all over again, and wasn't really able to hit the sweet spot the second time.
@johannesburing2417
@johannesburing2417 3 жыл бұрын
It isnt easy to maintain the fire in this extremely small boiler . You have to learn to know your engine by useing it and every well done ride makes your expertise better
@jean-louisfigureau6364
@jean-louisfigureau6364 3 жыл бұрын
@@johannesburing2417 well done , but mine is yellow , like the real one....
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