Wild Bill Hickok’s Deadwood Revolver

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Жыл бұрын

Wild Bill Hickok is one of the legendary figures of the Wild West, and his untimely murder at just 39-years of age remains one of the largest stories of the era.
Offered by Rock Island Auction Company is the heavily documented Smith & Wesson No. 2 Old Army revolver that was owned and carried by Wild Bill Hickok during his brief time in Deadwood.
He is documented to have owned one during his brief time in Deadwood, and numerous historians and authors state that he was carrying one when he was killed. Its provenance is solid, but a different question remains: is this the revolver Wild Bill was carrying that fateful day in the No. 10 saloon?
0:46 - Hickok's life just before Deadwood
1:19 - Hickok en route to Deadwood
1:56 - Was Wild Bill a model citizen or troublemaker?
2:58 - Premonitions of his own death
3:35 - The day before Hickok's death
4:08 - Dead Man's Hand
6:34 - Will Bill Hickok's Smith & Wesson No. 2 Old Army revolver
7:37 - Was he carrying this revolver when he died?
9:17 - A poem for Wild Bill
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@rob6850 Жыл бұрын

I love his youtube channel!

@ericellquist7007 Жыл бұрын

I didn't know Wild Bill had a youtube channel....

@MikeJones420Blazeit Жыл бұрын

@@ericellquist7007 it is not very well known. Will Bill Hickok’s grandfather, now runs the KZfaq channel, titled “Hickok45” I highly recommend it.

@cameronmccreary4758 Жыл бұрын

My Grandfather owned this exact model Smith & Wesson .32 caliber rimfire. One Saturday we took it to the local pistol range and fired CIL Canuck copper cased .32 rimfire long cartridges on it. These were smokeless loads only and the revolver shot well. Accuracy was poor due to severe barrel pitting.

@MrRebar15 Жыл бұрын

*Rock Island Auction Company* Very nice, thank-you sir for taking the time to show us. God Bless.

@mizzoupatriot8814 Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: 110 dollars in 1876 is equivalent to a little over 3,000 dollars today..Not too shabby for a day at the poker table.

@wldtrky38 Жыл бұрын

Very cool. Way out of my range, but I may well watch the auction live. Interesting presentation, thanks !

@fokkerd3red618 Жыл бұрын

The dude who shot him in the back of the head was a straight up coward. I'm sure he wasn't looked on very kindly by many people after this dastardly deed. That was a great story.

@jayhaisley2889 Жыл бұрын

Yes, good video. But I was awaiting the fate of the bastard that shot him. No such luck.

@fokkerd3red618 Жыл бұрын

@@jayhaisley2889 He was hung in December of that year. He was bragging around the wrong people and a Sheriff over heard him, I believe in South Dakota. I looked up this information on the internet, because I was curious myself.

@jayhaisley2889 Жыл бұрын

@@fokkerd3red618 Well, duh. Why didn't I think of that?

@mizzoupatriot8814 Жыл бұрын

Jack Mcall sealed his own fate by blabbing about the murder while he was drunk...Yes indeed..They hung his ass.

@scrooglemcdoogle Жыл бұрын

@@fokkerd3red618 He was executed in the then capital of the Dakotas in Yankton (would later move to Pierre after some catastrophic flooding of Yankton as well as the simultaneous induction of statehood of both Dakotas) which is in South Dakota.

@InTheDarknessWhereIDwell Жыл бұрын

@Joel Kolander Great content! Loved both the videos on Hickok's revolvers. Great presentation of information factual and mythological.

@GLG-20DECOY Жыл бұрын

Is the Cody museum in financial trouble ? Selling off a key piece in their collection..

@kevlarandchrome Жыл бұрын

Did they own it, or was it just on loan from the actual owner?

@konsum949 Жыл бұрын

Didnt they say EXACTLY so, that it was on display at Cody Museum ”on Loan”?

@tomhenry897 Жыл бұрын

Probably a loan

@matthaft2048 Жыл бұрын

They’re past due on rent

@baconatordoom Жыл бұрын

Probably. Majority of (Gen Z's) have never been to a museum. The ones who are interested can just watch about it for free on KZfaq. Older generations haven't been able to go thanks to the government these last 2 years. They probably have no choice but to downsize. I know I haven't had the urge to go museum hopping in a lonnnng time.

@thinkaboutit3942 Жыл бұрын

What a nice piece,history and all behind it

@aspitofmud6257 Ай бұрын

Thank you. Beautifully done sir

@ClickClack_Bam Жыл бұрын

Never did he imagine that his gun would be sold & talked about on a thing called the "internet". Had your told him or tried to explain his gun's future he's have dismissed you as a crazy person.

@6Sally5 Жыл бұрын

True. Then again, if someone had told me 20 years ago of the things that have recently come to pass I, likewise, would have dismissed them as a crazy person.

@Wootangtw Жыл бұрын

@@6Sally5 exactly

@martinstiastny7679 Жыл бұрын

Bravo 👏 👏 👏 👏 another tale well told by Joel

@noth606 Жыл бұрын

Joel Kollander is by far the best narrator and storyteller RIAC has, by a long shot! Wonderful story, very cool gun, excellent presentation, 10/10.

@JWheeler331 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video and well spoken information.

@boydgrandy5769 Жыл бұрын

The provenance of this pistol would have to be absolutely authenticated (by somebody other than RIAC) before I would even begin to believe that it was ever in his possession. If this is the same pistol that went to auction in 2013, the last owners got it as a "mysterious gift" in 1972 from the family that was at least the third party to allegedly gained possession of the gun from Hickok's effects. Curious how run of the mill pistols can acquire authentication when, in fact, chain of custody is sketchy at best, starting with the understanding that this pistol can't be attributed to Hickok other than by hearsay.

@thefrogking481 Жыл бұрын

Very true. Its not like it's Pattons Smith and Wesson that had a specialized serial number. The idea of this one belonging to Bill, alone will demand a premium price.

@olderthanyoucali8512 Жыл бұрын

Exactly, no real documentation.

@mrfuriouser Жыл бұрын

What kind of 'records' are you hoping to find? A receipt from Acme Mercantile for a sale to "Bill" in Deadwood? A Pony Express delivery slip from Sears & Roebuck to Mr. Hickock's home address? You seek something that doesn't exist. I would argue that since the authenticity of this piece HAS NOT BEEN CHALLENGED IN OVER 50 YEARS speaks volumes. No other piece is in consideration. If there were several making claims, then, okay...but, to this day, there aren't any. That is why it sold at auction. Again.

@boydgrandy5769 Жыл бұрын

@@mrfuriouser Somewhere, someone (say, S&W and the retail vendor who actually sold the pistol) has records that contain information such as serial number, point of sale, date of manufacture, the original owner, and shipping data. Receipts and letters can be used to identify change of ownership and custody of a firearm as well. That is how you establish provenance. Anything less than that is fairy tales and hokum. Unless this pistol has that kind of evidence to support the claim by the seller and RIA, I would certainly question its authenticity, and so should you.

@mrfuriouser Жыл бұрын

@@boydgrandy5769 Hope in one hand, brother. This ain't fine art. This is a disposable item. I hope you find those records. I really do. But with fires, sloppy record-keeping et al., I don't think there's much chance, anymore. Certainly not with Hickock's name associated to a serial number. That never existed.

@HGates-hl4eq Жыл бұрын

So awesome. Thank you.

@TheRussian13 Жыл бұрын

The "Dead Man's Hand" is just a pair of aces and eights. The added detail of them being all black suites is an embellishment. It's possible that they could have been, but it's basically a telephone game to figure out that detail of the story.

@armadagunshow 11 ай бұрын

I have one of these in great condition, excellent video, thanks for sharing

@AIRRAID2 Жыл бұрын

Had to read it twice, i know i "say" this a lot but WOW , Cheers Joel 🖐

@mizzoupatriot8814 Жыл бұрын

If I bought this gun I would give it to a great museum with a clause that says if they sell off their stock they must return it to me to then be placed in another museum...These pieces need to be shown and the stories told for generation..Not shoved in a drawer somewhere...The museum could keep it as long as they continue to tell the story.

@GazalAlShaqab Жыл бұрын

I hope that the Americans will "carry the torch of the Wild West" for a longtime! In present times the History seems to be, for some people, only a motive of shame and guilt, and something to be wiped out. The story of Wild Bill is known worldwide now, thanks to the HBO's "Deadwood", and it is incredible to see the S&W Thant belonged to the REAL Wild Bill! Hope the gun will stay in the USA. Or in the CSA, in the future :) Greetings from Europe!

@armyvet8279 Жыл бұрын

I've studied the Wild West since I was young, I'm 53, and I've NEVER heard anything about Wild Bill playing poker with Jack McCall.

@greghilbers4697 Ай бұрын

Apparently Hickock and McCall played poker the day before, that is why McCall murdered Wild Bill.

@AIRRAID2 Жыл бұрын

Cpt Crawford's poems hits me hard . The letter WB wrote the day of his death to his wife was beautiful, never mind the spelling. 😉

@dominicohea5624 Жыл бұрын

A brilliant. Narration. Thanks

@valpro99 Жыл бұрын

"Tell my wife I love her" was picked up by the paranormal group "Everyday Paranormal" on a digital voice recorder as an EVP. I totally believe what they recorded was truly unquestionable evidence of the after life.

@DavidNefelimSlayer Жыл бұрын

James Butler Hickok RIP. “I never insulted man or woman in my life, but if you knew what wholesome regard I have for damn liars and rascals, they would be liable to keep out of my way.” -Wild Bill

@cliffordbowman6777 2 ай бұрын

Kind of a bully sounds like. Anyway to kill all them people and always insisting it was “their fault” he had to kill them. ?

@extremelydeplorablebodean839 2 күн бұрын

@@cliffordbowman6777Easy to talk about somebody whos boots ya never stood in, in a time you never lived in. Thing is what you say is just talk nothing more.

@WarriorEsoteric Жыл бұрын

If I had the money I would pay up big time to have that piece of history as well

@KS-zr5og Жыл бұрын

Lol you guys zoomed in on north central North Dakota when you said “bound for the gold fields of the black hills” 😂😂

@reggiefurlow1 Жыл бұрын

This dude tells a great story

@vakuatx7800 Жыл бұрын

Kinda crazy to think it’s not rlly that long ago🤷🏻‍♂️

@marvindebot3264 Жыл бұрын

Hmm, i wasn't aware that the provenence on this piece was considered to be that strong. As I understand it, it is traceable to Deadwood at the time but no firm evidence other than hearsay that places in Bill's possession; has new evidence come to light?

@konsum949 Жыл бұрын

If this is the only known no.2 revolver attributed to Wild Bill during deadwood time, we can be pretty sure this is the one when he died, such a important revolver even back in the days, known to be Wild Bills revolver would have been saved and cherished, so the one he wore must be this one, otherwise it had been dokumented that there was two known to be in his ownership, THE revolver he wore would have been saved and talked about extensively at the time.

@Daddy53751 Жыл бұрын

I don’t have doubts about the provenance of this pistol, but that not one but both of his Navy 36’s were auctioned off right after his death for 25 cents each, to try to cover his debts, shows how little his possessions mattered at the time and place.

@tomhenry897 Жыл бұрын

Maybe sold to a friend at a cheap price

@davekoenig9935 Жыл бұрын

Buffalo Bill Historical Center has two mismatched Colt M. 51’s, which were raffled off to pay to bury him! The S&W hideout gun is only a distraction IMHO!

@Daddy53751 Жыл бұрын

@@davekoenig9935 hi Dave! Do you know if there’s any information on why the ‘36 pair isn’t numbers matched?

@davekoenig9935 Жыл бұрын

@@Daddy53751 nope! But there is a note to this effect. BBHC might send you their serial #’s, so you can research it further??

@raptor660cc1 Жыл бұрын

The music is terrible

@MrTweagle Жыл бұрын

Can you tell us what it went for at Auction?

@rkirschner7175 Жыл бұрын

My favorite revolver is still my first. 1980 Ruger old army. One off aluminum and brass shoulder stock. 45LC conversion cylinder. Have yet to shoot conversion.

@schiz0phren1c Жыл бұрын

Would have nice to have Ian *"Gun Jebus"* Mc Collum in this vid considering Wild Bill and He look so alike, I've always felt that the disgraceful murder by the coward mc call was motivated by people who didn't want Wild Bill around Deadwood, He was a Good Man, in a Hard Time (and vice versa!)

@charlesfield9286 Жыл бұрын

I thought that cowboys generally played Faro and that Poker wasn’t popular until later. I wonder if there is any real evidence that he was playing poker.

@aniquinstark4347 Жыл бұрын

Is there any documentation to prove this is the same gun? I see stories like this in the guitar world all the time but they almost never have proof it actually belonged to someone famous.

@garydouglas9413 Жыл бұрын

How common was this model pistol at the time of Hickok's death? This may be traceable to Deadwood at that time, but there may be another hundred same model revolvers that can be.

@louisliu5638 Жыл бұрын

7;00 provenance is virtually irrefutable; explained starting at the 7 minute mark. view it.

@mikeseier4449 Жыл бұрын

Wow, To have the funds for that revolver!..Wild Bill’s life was most fascinating indeed…what is the estimate?

@RockIslandAuctionCompany Жыл бұрын

The pre-auction estimate is $150,000 - $350,000.

@AIRRAID2 Жыл бұрын

@@RockIslandAuctionCompany My guess is 475k

@ericellquist7007 Жыл бұрын

A distance measured in feet...., as opposed to miles? Meters? Inches? Light years? Board feet?

@tofton1977 10 ай бұрын

I tought Wild Bill used a pair of colt Navy 1851 when he was shot in Deadwood?

@dougbish5533 Жыл бұрын

How much did it go for?

@kevindorn2508 Жыл бұрын

These old revolvers are the most beautiful weapons ever made. Something about them just clicks with me. If they werent so unreliable i would chose them today as my weapon of choice. If i lived in a country that allowed me to own one that is....i dont.

@ianashby6294 Жыл бұрын

The movie with Jeff bridges is awesome

@chrischiampo7647 Жыл бұрын

😮😇😮 RIP Wild Bill

@ChrisBishopOfficial Ай бұрын

That letter is dated June of 1876, and it was sent from Nebraska… it says all of this on the actual letter.

@Atmanmahatma Жыл бұрын

That gun is worth ten times that price atleast in my opinion

@mr31337 Жыл бұрын

Great video, but annoying music.

@WheezinGeezerTV Жыл бұрын

The 5th card was the 7 of diamonds.

@supersami7748 5 ай бұрын

So someone paid 616K for that 1851 Navy, of course several publications (and the internet for whatever that’s worth) that Wild Bill had gone to a cylinder conversion a year before his death. It seems there is just as much evidence he carried the cylinder conversion as this S&W. Rock Island knows full well there are over a dozen accounts written going back decades supposedly documenting a certain firearm that was carried by Hickok when he was killed. I have a lot of respect for Rock Island but these Wild Bill stories just keep coming in. It’s like the stories of who shot Ringo or was it suicide!

@DroneMonkey777 Жыл бұрын

So what happened to the guy that shot wild bill?

@xxxlonewolf49 Жыл бұрын

"Experts" opinions mean little, as they were not there or alive then.

@danielblackburn1241 Жыл бұрын

True and they are just looking to make as much as they can . Not enough proof

@wadetaylor1299 Жыл бұрын

He had his 51s converted to cartridge and wasn't just carrying the smiths

@TeamZcan 9 ай бұрын

They are both still percussion

@wadetaylor1299 9 ай бұрын

@@TeamZcan no they weren't anymore because they were converted to cartridges not caps so they were converted percussion revolvers if you want say that . But they were converted so no longer used caps but bullets Savvy

@TeamZcan 9 ай бұрын

@@wadetaylor1299 Both of his 1851 Colts are well known, both are still percussion as issued, neither one is converted. Put your Bud Lite down and do a little research before looking any more ignorant.

@wadetaylor1299 9 ай бұрын

@@TeamZcan you our a fool who has a keyboard name. Get educated he had his 51s converted before he had gone to deadwood like lot had or all the percussion models army converted . Do u know what it means even. Put your bush light and hot dogs down. Look into what a converted percussion handgun is or that Bill had his 51 navy's converted like i said tin horn.

@wadetaylor1299 9 ай бұрын

@@TeamZcan u must be team run my mouth not no what a converted percussion revolver is clearly

@otisarmyalso Жыл бұрын

Cody museum is must c 4 any old west fans

@johnnyringo2185 Жыл бұрын

Can’t even finish the video bc of the god awful music.

@mistervacation23 Жыл бұрын

Talk about a bad beat

@taxiuniversum Жыл бұрын

I find it kinda shameful that such kinds of artifacts can even show up at auctions. They should be in a museum, accessible to the public!

@Billyboy4209 Жыл бұрын

The gesture was and is still an insult at the table

@TheSleepingonit Жыл бұрын

Cowardly way to kill someone

@AdamosDad Жыл бұрын

After being in a bar in the Philippine Island that was machinegunned, I always face the door, or I don't sit down.

@Rando-h9d Жыл бұрын

Get your facts straight. You showed a map of North Dakota not South Dakota . The Black Hills are SD.

@123edwardzpad Жыл бұрын

It's always sad when a good man is murdered by a drunken coward.

@marksolheim8186 Жыл бұрын

HIs eyesight was failing.

@jeffadams9807 Жыл бұрын

He Had Glaucoma...

@marksolheim8186 Жыл бұрын

@@jeffadams9807 The Latest I have heard is that it was not Glaucoma.

@johnnyrebuffatti483 Жыл бұрын

Aces and eights...

@flaco5581 Жыл бұрын

didn't he always carry pistols in pairs?

@tomriddle3995 Жыл бұрын

I was watching deadwood last night. I admire the s&w topbreak. But dam its not worth that much even if it was bills.....

@MaxDeckard Жыл бұрын

Why would you sell this?

@AIRRAID2 Жыл бұрын

Must been a very tough decision to make.

@MaxDeckard Жыл бұрын

@@AIRRAID2 i couldnt picture it unless i was in danger.

@Mrfrenchdeux Жыл бұрын

Needing table stakes.

@tomhenry897 Жыл бұрын

Greed, need the money

@johnjohnmcclane1818 Жыл бұрын

Guns don't pay bills.

@cliffordbowman6777 2 ай бұрын

Sounds like a curator needs some extra cash

@michaelashcraft8569 Жыл бұрын

Money vs History, History generally loses, after all Money TALKS!!!

@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore Жыл бұрын

To be honest I thought this was going to be more about the actual gun since it clearly has some personalization done to it. But I get it.

@waynelkohrjr.8557 Жыл бұрын

I thought he carried 36.cal navy revolver.

@RockIslandAuctionCompany Жыл бұрын

Earlier in his life he definitely did. 1851 Colt Navy. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7WTf6Rzqpupk4E.html

@conniedunaway8010 Жыл бұрын

I thought he carried pearl handled pistols????

@uarbor70 Жыл бұрын

But in detroit.. it's worth 50 bucks. Name the movie

@w.neuman 23 күн бұрын

°Trading PLaces ••••••• "Ooh, How Much For The Gun" .??? 😊

@uarbor70 23 күн бұрын

@@w.neuman finally LOL

@w.neuman 23 күн бұрын

@@uarbor70 :)

@tophyl7558 Жыл бұрын

He murdered his own deputy screwing around

@rustybayonet1664 Жыл бұрын

Why the Fuck is it not in the Museum???

@Daddy53751 Жыл бұрын

It was (on loan) at the Cody Museum.

@mikepette4422 Жыл бұрын

To Bill...that was not a handsome woman but I'm sure you saw her inner beauty

@peepaw_of_9 Жыл бұрын

A distant cousin of mine

@rogerclyde2720 Жыл бұрын

False, Wild Bill used 36 Cal. Colts. One came up missing at the time of his death.

@RockIslandAuctionCompany Жыл бұрын

He definitely carried 1851 Colt Navy revolvers earlier in his life. However, multiple respected authors on the topic state that Wild Bill did make a change in his later years.

@blafishing7581 7 ай бұрын

@@RockIslandAuctionCompany Can you find out how much this one sold for ....please...??

@ClickClack_Bam Жыл бұрын

Well WTF happened to his killer? He just walked away happily ever after?

@RockIslandAuctionCompany Жыл бұрын

A hasty "miner's trial" initially found him not guilty, as McCall claimed that it was retribution for Hickok killing his brother in Abilene (even though no such brother existed). However, authorities soon argued that the "court" in Deadwood was not legitimate, as it was inside an Indian reservation and had no jurisdiction. Ergo, no valid acquittal and no double jeopardy. So McCall was officially tried December 4, 1876. Found guilty December 6. Sentenced to death on January 3, 1877, and hung by the neck during a public execution in Yankton on March 1.

@ClickClack_Bam Жыл бұрын

@@RockIslandAuctionCompany Thank you for the update. I'm glad he didn't get away with murdering WB. What a tragedy all around though.

@konsum949 Жыл бұрын

@@RockIslandAuctionCompany they surely didnt linger and procrastinated back in the days, heck ”amber and depp trial” Will go on ten times that length of time, and she didnt even commit the defamation on a indian reserve…

@UncaDave Жыл бұрын

Great story. Interesting, my great grandfather was in Deadwood working as a miner, possibly at that time. I have a letter from my grandfather relating that as a baby of 1 1/2 or 2, as told by his Mom, that in 1880 they rode 200 or 300 miles on the Deadwood stagecoach into the Black Hills to be with his Dad. I have pictures also of a big mining operation Pop worked at and one of the family on a hill overlooking it for a picnic of sorts. Horses and buggies are in the background. It must have been a lively time in that town at that time. Family history can be intriguing. Pop later took off for Alaska for that gold rush, eventually returning to Shelton, CT and from his earnings bought land and built a fine two story home. Have pictures of it also. My family had a fascination for photography for which I am greatfull. All the family pictures are in my possession. My advice is to learn your history as much as you can and tell your children about it. It roots us in the past as we make our futures forward. This video sure stirred some thoughts.

@fredforsythe8310 Жыл бұрын

Wonder when the wreckers will designate him 'racist' and cancel him out of history.

@kyleharris3 Жыл бұрын

So you're saying you don't know 100% if this is Wild Bill's gun!

@RockIslandAuctionCompany Жыл бұрын

On the contrary. We are stating this is Wild Bill's gun. Period.

@danielblackburn1241 Жыл бұрын

@@RockIslandAuctionCompany I don't believe you know he was carrying this revolver that day 100 percent ! Who took it from his body ? Why wasn't it sold along with his Colts to help pay for his grave site ?

@alexblue6991 Жыл бұрын

They were psychopaths

@ianashby6294 Жыл бұрын

I belive wild bill was losing his eyesight due to glicoma

@joshuagibson2520 Жыл бұрын

What about syphilis or other STD's?

@petrokrasnov2967 Жыл бұрын

@@joshuagibson2520 The film claims syphilis

@King.DAVid.III2022 Жыл бұрын

he was my momma's 6th cousin, her brother looks just like him same hair, I got the hair 🤓🗡️

@upptowne Жыл бұрын

why doesn't he look at the camera

@Hammer1978 Жыл бұрын

How does that gun work if it has no trigger?

@danielblackburn1241 Жыл бұрын

When the hammer is pulled back the trigger pops out

@kennyporter8215 Жыл бұрын

I have a s&w # 2 handed down from my gp, like to sell don't know how to go about it, looks just like that picture.

@MilanskaSila Жыл бұрын

You shouldn’t sell them. They must have some personal value for you family. best you can do is keep it your grandchildren/children

@kennyporter8215 Жыл бұрын

I have no realities left no family or kids, I am the last.

@MilanskaSila Жыл бұрын

@@kennyporter8215Oh, I am sorry if I offended you,I don’t know

@danielblackburn1241 Жыл бұрын

@@MilanskaSila I don't think he was offended . Just saying his story

@gregusmc2868 Ай бұрын

Has it been swabbed for brain-matter?

@aceroadholder2185 Жыл бұрын

Do I believe items belonging to notable persons that supposedly magically appear with no firm provenance or chain of possession are real? If there is a large amount of money at stake, not really.

@RockIslandAuctionCompany Жыл бұрын

Because it didn't magically appear. It's a well-known and documented gun that can trace its ownership back to 1876. It's in almost every book that talks about the guns of Wild Bill Hickok. It has been thoroughly scrutinized by historians and authors.

@bidel1lee7 Жыл бұрын

@custodialmark Жыл бұрын

i visited a few times. said thot dad said i may have been concieved in upstairs rooms for rent. shot photos for few local bands in bars near . spent few nites in same iron cage as got cot for pot. apon release an ol west photo studio partner visited black hills and we shot replicas of this gun, i thot. Me bad shot laid gun apon forearm to steady aim.. School nurse helped clean as got blood poison from powder burn. i visited bars site few years back for college reunion . ...