Rogue Poison Build Potential - Dark and Darker

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Moddxe

Moddxe

10 ай бұрын

Solo Rogue PvP Dark and Darker
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@1Jack9The9Great0
@1Jack9The9Great0 10 ай бұрын
That's all I needed to see - an example of poison build, thx bud!
@ianforbes9644
@ianforbes9644 10 ай бұрын
lol I was about to comment that, but other than that it was a great video!
@PeePeeMgee
@PeePeeMgee 10 ай бұрын
What a fantastic and concise video
@GregGBM7
@GregGBM7 10 ай бұрын
Poison Attack: 4 total magic damage DIVIDED over 4 seconds, multiplied by magic power bonus Additional magic damage from gear only scales 50%[*] for this ability Default Rogue: 5 will/magic power(-50%) = 2 outgoing magic damage over 4 seconds at 15 will/magic power, there is no damage gain or loss (+0%) = 4 total damage base Your Case: +21 additional magic damage and 11 will/magic power(-20%) so a total of (4+(21*50%))*80% = 11.6 total over 4 seconds ~3per tick, max 5 stacks [*]scaling looks like 60% with your rounded data (3 at 1hit, 7 at 2 hits, 17 at 5 hits) or something else is off
@jonb6564
@jonb6564 10 ай бұрын
They reverted the nerfs
@hewas9738
@hewas9738 10 ай бұрын
@@jonb6564poison was always 50% in early access. It wasn’t affected by the 50% magic damage sweep.
@hewas9738
@hewas9738 10 ай бұрын
It’s actually more damage than this. You made a wrong calculation with magical damage. Added magical damage form stats that is not inherit to the weapon does not get affected by the will stat or magical power. So that 21 added magical damage is not reduced by 20%. You can check out the video on how DaD damage works to see for yourself.
@CPyJIb
@CPyJIb 10 ай бұрын
@@hewas9738 all except True damage affected by % damage multipliers if it is applicable to skill, perk or weapon attack.
@CPyJIb
@CPyJIb 10 ай бұрын
It's a school task with one unknown. Formula: (Poison Base Damage + Additional Magic * Poison Multiplier) * Stack Number * Will % Multiplier * Defence % Multiplier / Duration = Poison DPS - Poison Base Damage = 4 - Additional Magic = 21 - Stack Number = 5 - Will % Multiplier = for 11 Will it's -20% or 0,8 - Defence % Multiplier = Dummy has 0 magic resist, that equal -10% or 1,1 - Duration = 4 - Poison DPS = 17 (4 + 21 * x) * 5 * 0,8 * 1,1 / 4 = 17 (4 + 21 * x) * 1,1 = 17 4 + 21 * x = 15,45(45) 21 * x = 11,45(45) x = 0,54(54) or rounded to 0,55 So only 55% of Additional Magic damage applied to Poison Weapons perk.
@Akolon13
@Akolon13 10 ай бұрын
It's really cool that it's still possible, thank you for the video
@daniellaquant2083
@daniellaquant2083 10 ай бұрын
please make more videos! love your content bro, youre chill asf and love seeing when you upload!
@fox.5730
@fox.5730 10 ай бұрын
This used to be a build, rupture is physical and poison was magic. Back in early access lots of people ran this because the additional damage was on every tick of the poison, now it only adds to the whole of the total poison damage over the duration which makes this terrible. RIP poison rogue, was super fun.
@styxrakash4639
@styxrakash4639 10 ай бұрын
This is EXACTLY what I was looking for
@airlift8188
@airlift8188 10 ай бұрын
This wipe I've been running rupture + weakpoint. Build priority is 15 STR, go for some extra agility where available. Then Weapon damage and magic damage. Perks are poison weapon, thrust, double jump, and jokester. You lose out on invis/ambush and have to play a bit differently but this build is a DPS factory. Plus you can still take advantage of invis pots. Really enjoying it and I could see it become meta if ambush is ever nerfed.
@nitanmalomusic
@nitanmalomusic 10 ай бұрын
why magic damage? rupture is physical damage
@sayler1
@sayler1 10 ай бұрын
I see you had to put down another rogue before using the dummy lol. Thanks for the info.
@konflikt84
@konflikt84 10 ай бұрын
Amazing ❤
@pedroloveipowa7383
@pedroloveipowa7383 10 ай бұрын
I tried last wipe building 20 will (without jokester) and had 8 add magical damage in my gear and played with handcrossbow it was devastating til I found out that my focus on will in my gear was useless I agree with that but 15 will is the base minimum to remove the penalty thank you for useful infos bro
@CPyJIb
@CPyJIb 10 ай бұрын
Poison builds were even more busted when True Magic was working with poison. You still want 15 Will to remove magic damage penalty
@Sahbab11
@Sahbab11 10 ай бұрын
What do you mean by magic damage penalty?
@cybelli80
@cybelli80 10 ай бұрын
With Will below 15 you get debuffs. Your debuffs last longer (So goblin poison does MORE damage to you) and your buffs last shorter (Hide, smokebomb, potions, etc. This means default rogue kinda lame). Will also effects magic damage. So any bonus you get to magic damage will be effectively weaker, because it's a percentage.@@Sahbab11
@jwag301
@jwag301 10 ай бұрын
@@cybelli80 you should make that its own comment and not just a reply
@aldhren
@aldhren 10 ай бұрын
man, how i miss playing this game!
@JungleTipp
@JungleTipp 10 ай бұрын
Real content
@nekopeace1917
@nekopeace1917 10 ай бұрын
Thats great i was wondering what actually makes poison go up
@MrTurtlelicious
@MrTurtlelicious 10 ай бұрын
and what if you stack em both? I noticed the rogues named rapier Viola also applies 10 more magic damage, so surely it could become a very viable build?
@dr.sbrule5817
@dr.sbrule5817 10 ай бұрын
The thing is you need to attack 4-5 times to stack it, in which time an equally invested build focused on raw dmg is just better. Its a meme build, needs buffs tbh
@jirikrulis2853
@jirikrulis2853 10 ай бұрын
I thought that throwing knives apply poison as well, If you hit a lot of them on for exampel barb chasing you it is going to hurt him
@lukarito
@lukarito 10 ай бұрын
@@jirikrulis2853 nope doesnt stack xD
@Sarionark
@Sarionark 9 ай бұрын
​@@lukaritoyes it stacks
@ashtonbrockway9312
@ashtonbrockway9312 4 ай бұрын
im planning on trolling trios alone in greys. this feels like a good way to do it
@hollsters6540
@hollsters6540 10 ай бұрын
Yo does "magical power" work or does it have to be additional magic power?
@bumpkin8009
@bumpkin8009 10 ай бұрын
if i go for poison I usually get my magic power to positive (pendants and rings with will) and go for aditional magical damage. This way i can have the 2 from having positive magic power and i can still stack magic damage
@jakejta6157
@jakejta6157 10 ай бұрын
ty for vid
@killer30556
@killer30556 10 ай бұрын
Stacked will to 0% magic and can confirm its not worth vs more agility or strenght. maybe with the aditional magic damage on it too it can stack up quick. would need to try.
@TanvirBhulcrap
@TanvirBhulcrap 10 ай бұрын
also hilarious would be to run that setup with just a bunch of throwing knifes/hand crossbow - ranged bleed/poison build
@user-rc7tr7hd8l
@user-rc7tr7hd8l 10 ай бұрын
Is it okay to use fixed magic damage?
@jonb6564
@jonb6564 10 ай бұрын
Yes
@TehVahra
@TehVahra 10 ай бұрын
Does true magic damage add anything then?
@matt4617
@matt4617 10 ай бұрын
if I die to this now I will be pissed
@3InchesofLove
@3InchesofLove 10 ай бұрын
omg, that is nasty.
@AkumosBDF
@AkumosBDF 10 ай бұрын
IMO the ramp time and stacking makes it somewhat of a meme in PvP, but I could see some use for it in PvE if you can keep it up on troll.
@FreddyZeNerd
@FreddyZeNerd 10 ай бұрын
I just go for pure damage on troll, I think it isn't influential enough to cut back on a PvP build
@Namthre
@Namthre 10 ай бұрын
You should show a comparison to a build with 1-2 + will on each piece to see the difference in building damage vs will
@KalliousTallon
@KalliousTallon 10 ай бұрын
Magic power will barely add anything to poisons damage. +1 additional magic damage will add the same amount as increasing your magic power bonus by 25%.
@MrKeyalis
@MrKeyalis 10 ай бұрын
Will and Magic power is shit, cus they're % base, you NEED AMD to get posion to do more damage
@Sarionark
@Sarionark 10 ай бұрын
Why we see 17 magical and then 3 guys I dont understand pls?😮
@hczman90
@hczman90 10 ай бұрын
What about True Magic Damage is that any better or worse? Seems like it could be better if it ignores resists
@camski
@camski 10 ай бұрын
true magic damage doesnt affect the poison damage, so it is useless on rogues
@styxrakash4639
@styxrakash4639 10 ай бұрын
@@camski the devs are once again the fun police
@KalliousTallon
@KalliousTallon 10 ай бұрын
@@camski True damage will work the exact same as Additional Magic damage here, but just not be affected by enemy resists. The only problem with it is additional magic damage has higher max rolls than additional magic damage, and most enemies don't have high magic resist.
@combs3445
@combs3445 10 ай бұрын
Just a general PSA: Rupture does NOT scale with magic damage, it used to but they switched it to physical damage instead! You can absolutely still use it, just be wary!
@fsnotchris
@fsnotchris 10 ай бұрын
i just bought all the gear.. it won't work anymore? :(
@orlando9887
@orlando9887 10 ай бұрын
​@@fsnotchrispoison will still stack with magical
@combs3445
@combs3445 10 ай бұрын
@@fsnotchris it hasn’t worked since the early access release date. Poison is different than rupture. Poison will work
@JackieC0728
@JackieC0728 10 ай бұрын
I think an aspect of this build that we aren't utilizing is also the fact that the poison procs off of throwing knives and hand-crossbows (if you've selected the crossbow perk). Procs off both the perk and ability, so by the time you start melee combat, they're at a health disadvantage.
@JELKEK
@JELKEK 10 ай бұрын
Where tf do you people come from, poison does NOT work on crossbow or throwing knife, only rupture and weakpoint
@JackieC0728
@JackieC0728 10 ай бұрын
@@JELKEK damn yo that’s crazy I literally suggested something then got the most retaliatory response 😭 rupture still implies my suggestion that using ranged weapons on rogue gives you a slight advantage
@majinttk8333
@majinttk8333 10 ай бұрын
Yo I killed you in gobcaves I was a wizard I was freaking out after I saw your name lol GGs. Learning rogue from ya
@TanvirBhulcrap
@TanvirBhulcrap 10 ай бұрын
do you think +Phys damage and +Phys Damage % would stack with rupture?
@KalliousTallon
@KalliousTallon 10 ай бұрын
Both will increase the damage of it, but it has 50% scaling so the effectiveness of both is halved.
@TanvirBhulcrap
@TanvirBhulcrap 10 ай бұрын
awesome ty for the info@@KalliousTallon
@maxumaki
@maxumaki 10 ай бұрын
People don’t realize or strong poison actually is..I rather use rupture and wp to brawl than using hide and sacrificing 2-3 perks just to make hide better
@akselik6380
@akselik6380 10 ай бұрын
i feel like weakpoint would still be better with this gear? Doesnt weakpoint enhance poison? rupture is just kinda bad when you have ok gear.
@Hudini901
@Hudini901 10 ай бұрын
rupture is good with crossbow, especially with the new damage falloff changes to handcrossbows. from a distance your crossbow might only deal like 10 damage, rupture applies full damage
@lukarito
@lukarito 10 ай бұрын
or u just go normal damage and the enemy dies in 5 hits anyways, would be good if crossbow and knifes stack it
@sasuke621001
@sasuke621001 10 ай бұрын
That's a fun build. if you want a optimal build just run full strenght and weapon dmg. you will deal more dmg in just 1 ambush + weakpoint attack than with 5 sec full poison stack with full magic dmg build.
@FreddyZeNerd
@FreddyZeNerd 10 ай бұрын
Looks too good lets nerf bard
@ponyjf
@ponyjf 10 ай бұрын
so you just two shot white geared ranger and waited him to bleed out, well done but if you would actually make rogue as suppose to he would die from the first shot with that amount of gear on you
@kazaren
@kazaren 10 ай бұрын
More shit for me to watch out for LOL
@mrdimes4093
@mrdimes4093 10 ай бұрын
The real question is why arent u guys subscribed?
@wackobama5988
@wackobama5988 10 ай бұрын
you know what's funny so 1 stack is 4 damage base, dummie has some sort of resist or smth, it's doing 1 less damage at 3. now add this up 4x5 -4 = 16 you just spent so much gear on something that doesn't even work.
@ch1015
@ch1015 7 ай бұрын
Rouge has base -25% magic power, so 4 dmg really isnt base.
@snaztw7
@snaztw7 10 ай бұрын
It has 200% scaling on max stacks
@user-uv2bh9cg6i
@user-uv2bh9cg6i 10 ай бұрын
how is this calculated?
@ooanticsoo4475
@ooanticsoo4475 10 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure rogue has halved will, but if he was to stack will and 1 to magic damage. It would be nuts once you get positive will. I think you need like 17 will or something.
@quickschweezy
@quickschweezy 10 ай бұрын
Play with a bard that gives +3 will and a cleric that gives +3 will@@ooanticsoo4475
@jmp_esp
@jmp_esp 10 ай бұрын
@@ooanticsoo4475 I'm not sure about that. Do we have the damage calcs for spells figured out fully? I thought additional magic damage applied after the will % calculation occurs something like (((base damage * (% dmg multi from spell power and flat % rolls) + additional damage) * dmg reduction from target) + true magic dmg.
@ooanticsoo4475
@ooanticsoo4475 10 ай бұрын
@chickenwjnfatfses9943 from what I remember on a certain playtest yup. You only get like 50 percent to will or some crap.
@KalliousTallon
@KalliousTallon 10 ай бұрын
(4 * (1+Magic Power Bonus/2) + Additional Magic Damage/2 + True Magic Damage/2)/4 damage per second per poison stack. So stacking will does almost nothing. +1 additional magic damage will add the same damage as increasing your magic power bonus by 25%.
@d3adagain385
@d3adagain385 10 ай бұрын
This is the most dumb build I've ever played 😂 Watching people die from 2 crossbow shots. Try to make your will little bit higher so you wont have damage and duration penalties
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