Roland HP704 review | Hear this review before purchasing

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Tamir Orkoby's Piano Channel

Tamir Orkoby's Piano Channel

2 жыл бұрын

I visited my cousin Tom and she purchased the Roland HP704 so I took the opportunity to do a review on her new piano. The main review is about the sound of the piano on this instrument
#RolandHP704

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@sundancer7381
@sundancer7381 2 жыл бұрын
Really good review - thanks for making the video.
@beyzaak8965
@beyzaak8965 2 жыл бұрын
Great review indeed, my complaints are exactly the same. I wish I heard this before I bought my Roland.
@bandar7891
@bandar7891 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the honest Review... Greetings from Egypt
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@AlexeyDubkov
@AlexeyDubkov 2 ай бұрын
Shalom! I was about to purchase roland hp704 for my wife as a gift but after this I picked up gently used Kawai CA98 for less and she is happy with it! Toda raba!
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano 2 ай бұрын
Not even close to hp704 level. Way above. Congrats
@jeffcat4114
@jeffcat4114 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Tamir, very raw and authentic. The reviews by piano stores and salesmen are so fake.
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano 2 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@user-kt9fw2zy9v
@user-kt9fw2zy9v 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, you explained the problem very well and I understand what you mean. I also understand the 1 piano sound. I think sampling is much better...for now maybe, as you said. It's also good you are not selling/pushing a brand. A true opinion, and a very good one I believe. Thanks.
@Biozene
@Biozene 2 жыл бұрын
Nice playing. I think the fact that one of the big selling points of these modelled Rolands is that you can craft your own piano sound in great detail, with around 19 parameters to fiddle with, having only one true default piano tone isn't such a bad thing.
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano 2 жыл бұрын
yes you are right. but not when the base sound is not authentic piano sound its problematic to make it sound more authentic with fiddling with the parameters. any way my (ex) RD800 pianos sound better then this modeled piano sound.
@TheTerrylevy
@TheTerrylevy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tamir, thanks for the review. Question, in this price range do you have a model that you can easily recommend? Not necessarily Roland...
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano 2 жыл бұрын
Any Kawai or Yamaha Digital Home piano same price will do. I prefer the Kawai. Lets say the Kawai ca49 / ca59 or the yamaha clp 735 / clp 745 also great instruments with great piano sounds.
@TheTerrylevy
@TheTerrylevy 2 жыл бұрын
@@TamirOrkobysPiano Thanks for the comment and the information! I'll do as you suggest. Thank you my video friend. GOD BLESS
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheTerrylevy welcome dear friend.
@loveofgod9462
@loveofgod9462 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheTerrylevy What did you choose it?
@watchit2562
@watchit2562 2 жыл бұрын
what can you say about the key noises. So do the keys rattle and do you hear them when you play.
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano 2 жыл бұрын
Cant remember sorry.
@mixoh
@mixoh Жыл бұрын
hello sir what a fantastic playing, so beautiful , i was so at awe at your knowledge and your playing I have a question ! i found this piano for £800 it a good piano for this price or should i look for something else? weather you respond or not thank you!
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano Жыл бұрын
It's Good Price. Defiantly good price. Don't know what to say.
@mixoh
@mixoh Жыл бұрын
@@TamirOrkobysPiano thank you for the comment sir but i decided to go for es8 I found that for even better price £600.😁
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano Жыл бұрын
@@mixoh much better piano
@guitarjacob1237
@guitarjacob1237 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in for either the hp704, yamaha clp 725-745. My area of use right now is only playing in my student room, and recording - including orchestra synths. My thought is that the CLP series has very limited use except for regular piano sounds. The 735 sticks with only plastic keys. The hp704 does have a nice feel to it compared to the very plastic clp 735. The problem is; if I spend too much money now (ex the 745) I won't have money for a newer generation in maybe 5 years. The Roland f701 has come to my thought too. The CLP series also has a modelled sound right? Your critics opinion?
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano 2 жыл бұрын
the Yamaha DP are base on samples! the Roland High end DP are base on rendering sound from conputer. not real piano! and about "wood" vs "plastic"! its over rated! the are "wood" keys that feels like shit! and plastic keys that feels like heaven. and the yamaha plastic keys on the clp feels better the the "wooden" spongy action of Roland. but the Roland action is very durable so... sound wise? Yamaha wins big!! key action wise? yamaha wins again. but its subjective. Kawai win them both! but its subjective to!!! anyway. looking for Digital Piano? take yamaha or kawai. and if your are fan boy of roland.... look for piano base on sample and note render. like the fp30x or the fp60x. or the less expansive home digital. i wouldn't touch Roland digital pianos. dou i like the new fp30x and the fp60x. its sounds good on the youtube reviews. and its sample base!
@guitarjacob1237
@guitarjacob1237 2 жыл бұрын
@@TamirOrkobysPiano Thank you for quick answer. I just don't like the feel of the keys on the clp735. The 45 has nice feel too it, but it's too much to pay 3000 euro for a slightly better feel. Might go with the yamaha clp 735 after all! My dealer does not have kawai unfortunatly.
@loveofgod9462
@loveofgod9462 2 жыл бұрын
@@guitarjacob1237 What did you choose it?
@guitarjacob1237
@guitarjacob1237 2 жыл бұрын
@@loveofgod9462 I bought the Lx705. Piano sounds are alot better than the HP or other Roland series because they use "pureacoustic" instead of "supernatural" sound engine, and also a different speaker system that makes the piano sound more like a semi teared older grand. The biggest down I have is not the sound of the engine, but the speaker sound since you have to adjust alot of settings when switching from headphones to speakers. Also the piano sound a bit too metallic at default. Alot of adjustments are neccessary to create a good sound. Another thing to notice is that is has a bit shorter keys which makes certain very techniqal melodies harder to play than usual. The key action is good. It's by my opinion better than the CLP 735 but a bit less than the C45 when it comes to the grands and keys. I took Tamirs words and did more reviews myself before choosing. My decision to pay 200 eur extra to get the LX705 instead of the HP704 I am very happy with. Overall the LX705 adresses almost every problem Tamir mentioned with the HP. And mark my word: Modelling has benefits too. When the artificial feel the supernatural engine has been to a high degree solved you end up with a pretty good piano with alot of possibilities. When it comes to settings and adjustment it is leauges infront of the CLP. I bought it for 2200 EUR. This is just my personal preference and opinions, which I know Tamir doesn't fully agree with. I agree with every criticism he has, but not the overall judgment.
@rolexmarcelo3218
@rolexmarcelo3218 Жыл бұрын
It was enjoyable time for me to remember why I don't like Roland. Hahaha love the man-humor
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano Жыл бұрын
Change my Mind in a way. I love the Sampled Piano's Of Roland (FP30x, RD88, Fandom O) hate the Modeled Piano's like here.
@BruhStar
@BruhStar Жыл бұрын
is the music rest too high for a 1.5 meters tall person (me)?
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano Жыл бұрын
Don't know. Can't remember. It's seems to be ok for you.
@guitarjacob1237
@guitarjacob1237 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going for the LX705. It has another motor that fixes the "artificial" sound to a very high extent and still has the large database of random shit like orchestras. It has the european pianos aswell as the americans. Compared to the CLP745 I would maybe prefer the piano sound (even though very comparable) in the CLP, but the yamahas are very limited in other areas than straight piano play. I compared the LX in store with the HP, and the difference is huge.
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano 2 жыл бұрын
You do what suits your needs. For me the main thing on digital piano is the piano sound and touch. So...
@guitarjacob1237
@guitarjacob1237 2 жыл бұрын
@@TamirOrkobysPiano Yes. I appreciate your thoughts on the Rolands. Made me rethink my choices with new inputs.
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano 2 жыл бұрын
Don't touch the Roland digital pianos. My advice. If you want good home digital piano. Same price as the roland lx 705 take the yamaha clp 745 or the kawai ca59 (best choice to my opinion). You've got almost the same amount of "other" sounds on the kawai as the roland. And much better piano sound and feel.
@guitarjacob1237
@guitarjacob1237 2 жыл бұрын
@@TamirOrkobysPiano CLP 745 is around 550 euro more were I live. Didn't have chance to try any Kawais and wouldn't buy something I've never tried. But I mark your words for the kawai, alot of people seem to favour it. I however did like the clp 745 alot. I think the 735 was in the same price as the lx705 were I live. And the 735 still have fully plastic keys and misses alot of recording friendly gadgets compared to the 745. For the next gen digital pianos it will be cool to see how different brand evolves. Maybe digital tech will outbeat the sampled tech if you regard how insanely fast technology rises. I'm a guitar player, and for guitars, anything electronically has never ever even come slightly close to a real guitar.
@guitarjacob1237
@guitarjacob1237 2 жыл бұрын
@@TamirOrkobysPiano You should do more reviews by the way. Very honest. It would help alot of people.
@Harrison-Sniper
@Harrison-Sniper 2 жыл бұрын
🙀👍👍👍
@minooluna23
@minooluna23 Жыл бұрын
:d everything depends on what you compare it with. I have a keyboard Casio .. when I played with this, I felt I m flying. YES IN COMPARISON to that keyboard.
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano Жыл бұрын
To Same Price DP's. The Casio Pianos Sound Better.
@minooluna23
@minooluna23 Жыл бұрын
@@TamirOrkobysPiano I mean I compared Roland HP704 to an old Casio keyboard. on Roland I was flying because I had never played better than my keyboard which I still dearly appreciate x HAHA.
@user-hp2hd5vy5x
@user-hp2hd5vy5x Ай бұрын
I'd guess Nord piano 5 is the best of all others that're on the market today
@AliAhmed-kk8lt
@AliAhmed-kk8lt Жыл бұрын
What is the sample piano for kawai?!
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano Жыл бұрын
Most of today kawai DP's got samples of this pianos : SK concert grand. EX Concert Grand. SK5 Studio Grand. K6(0) Upright.
@AliAhmed-kk8lt
@AliAhmed-kk8lt Жыл бұрын
@@TamirOrkobysPiano thank you for response
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano Жыл бұрын
@@AliAhmed-kk8lt Your welcome
@zootius
@zootius 8 ай бұрын
There are 5 more acoustic pianos on the HP704 than just the 4 modelled voices. Unfortunately Roland made the odd decision to only include the modelled voices in the "Piano" list. To get to these 5 sampled pianos, you have to click the "Other" button and scroll to the "Upright" list. A point about the sound of the speakers - they sound a lot better if the piano is 5 inches away from the wall. Annoying I agree, nobody can spare that space. I do love the electric pianos on this piano though. The "1976 Suitcase" Rhodes sound is lovely, much better than the Kawai tine voice IMO
@veronicat.4375
@veronicat.4375 7 ай бұрын
On 702 too?
@zootius
@zootius 7 ай бұрын
@@veronicat.4375 the 702 only uses sampled sounds, not modelling.
@veronicat.4375
@veronicat.4375 7 ай бұрын
@@zootius Well, i'm so confused right now. Every review I see say that is modeling sound.
@zootius
@zootius 7 ай бұрын
@@veronicat.4375 My bad, I was going from faulty memory. You're right, the 702 and 704 are both using the same modelling for their 4 primary piano voices. The main advantage of the 704 over the 702 is the 2 extra speakers and the PHA-50 keyboard action. As it happens I have the 704 and to be honest I probably would have been just as happy with an RP-701, which is a lot cheaper. The modelled sound isn't noticeably worth it to me.
@veronicat.4375
@veronicat.4375 7 ай бұрын
@@zootius Cool :) Have you ever played on the Yamaha CLP 735?
@Fabiano.Bittencourt
@Fabiano.Bittencourt 8 ай бұрын
Another Kawai fanboy. At least this one can play. 😃
@sarafoxy
@sarafoxy 2 жыл бұрын
The RP 701 is probably a better option for the money. Once you start paying thousands of dollars you might be better off to just go pick up acoustic piano.
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano 2 жыл бұрын
i don't agree. there are very good digital piano's at this price range. some people will say even better then accustic piano. but this model is defenetly not one of them.
@sarafoxy
@sarafoxy 2 жыл бұрын
@@TamirOrkobysPiano cool. Do you think that about all the Roland pianos or do you prefer the companies that sample from their acoustic pianos like Kawai and Yamaha? Thank you for your reply. I appreciate your opinion.
@TamirOrkobysPiano
@TamirOrkobysPiano 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarafoxy personaly i"m anti - rendering piano sound. also on vst. every one else is saying prays on the pianoteq piano's sound. not me. i can 👂 clearly when its not real piano sound and its bothering me. but even if you pro render piano sound. the roland render piano sound are the worse in the industry to my opinion. and i use to have RD800 which is their pre flugship stage piano. but each case to its own. and this piano is one of the worse i heard. i usually dont like roland piano sound but on their flagship some of them are bearable. not the case here.
@philipcooper8297
@philipcooper8297 2 жыл бұрын
Acoustic pianos are loud (for practice) and require tuning and other attention to keep them playing nice. Room humidity and temperature can also alter an acoustic piano sound and tuning. A digital piano will always sound ''perfect''.
@runder2022
@runder2022 Жыл бұрын
Kawai forever
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